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Body Building and protein

  • 19-04-2011 12:39pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭


    I just looked at back of my protein there today and has 37g of protein per 2 scoops, and then i looked at tuna and has 20g, whats the point in the supplements if i need 160g a day minimum if i can just have 6 regular intakes of protein i know its a supplment but its not even near my RDA.

    Can anyone advise as what to do?:)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    That's not much info to go on there. People generally post up a average days diet or whatever. There's protein in all kinds of foods like.

    As a side note I'd be wary of eating too much fish, esp tuna. Fish will eat anything and they do. Herring and salmon will contain less heavy metals AFAIK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    Thats what im asking. Is there a point (i do body building) in taking protein supplements if i ensure 160g intake a day?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Galway K9 wrote: »
    I just looked at back of my protein there today and has 37g of protein per 2 scoops, and then i looked at tuna and has 20g, whats the point in the supplements if i need 160g a day minimum if i can just have 6 regular intakes of protein i know its a supplment but its not even near my RDA.

    Can anyone advise as what to do?:)

    A whey shake will get into your system much quicker as it digests faster (I think). Also it's handy to be able to just shake one up instead of having to cook a meal if you're knackered after the gym. Plus less fats and carbs than a meal with chicken/fish etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dartstothesea


    If you're already getting 160g and you're happy with that, then no, you don't need to supplement that.
    I'd say you'll want more than 160g sooner or later though and I dunno about you but chugging a scoop of whey is a lot more convenient than chugging extra ...tuna


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    If you're taking your limit without using shakes then you're are doing better than most of us

    Re Tuna, don't go overboard on taking it. You'll sweat it out of you and your friends and family won't appreciate the smell. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 537 ✭✭✭gavney1


    If I feel I'm getting enough protein from food sources, I don't bother with whey

    However, I generally don't, esp on training days when I've less time on my hands. So, that's when whey comes into play. I generally just take it after gym sessions if I'm training late.

    I also find ON whey + milk is quite tasty. Not the worst snack


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 145 ✭✭Cipher


    squod wrote: »

    As a side note I'd be wary of eating too much fish, esp tuna. Fish will eat anything and they do. Herring and salmon will contain less heavy metals AFAIK.

    Just on the metal issues with fish, introduce brazil nuts to your diet. Contains Selenium which has a binding effect on mercury.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Mauricmo


    faceman wrote: »
    If you're taking your limit without using shakes then you're are doing better than most of us

    Re Tuna, don't go overboard on taking it. You'll sweat it out of you and your friends and family won't appreciate the smell. :)

    Does this apply to both tinned tuna and the frozen/fresh kind?

    I admit I eat ALOT of tuna, how worried should I be about the amount of metal I am ingesting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Mauricmo wrote: »
    Does this apply to both tinned tuna and the frozen/fresh kind?

    I admit I eat ALOT of tuna, how worried should I be about the amount of metal I am ingesting?

    Probably not. But I wouldn't continue with it. As another poster said there's stuff that chelates mercury fairly well. vitC and selenium AFAIK.

    http://www.drhoffman.com/page.cfm/121

    Back OT, I sometimes do a 'chicken run' about 8.45. Just before the deli counter put the chickens in the garbage. Half price chickens = win.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    Mauricmo wrote: »
    Does this apply to both tinned tuna and the frozen/fresh kind?

    I admit I eat ALOT of tuna, how worried should I be about the amount of metal I am ingesting?
    Tuna is a top level predator, and will pick up mercury from the fishes it ate, who all picked up a bit of mercury form what they ate, etc... It doesn't matter if the tuna is canned, frozen or fresh.

    Don't freak out about it though, I think a lot of these things get exaggerated, and you're probably fine. Try and find out from a reputable source about how much mercury you're really getting though, and make sure it's not too much over whatever the guidelines are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    I wouldn't be too worried about mercury poisoning lmao. People worry about some crazy stuff. I've never heard of anyone with mercury poisoning apart from a guy I saw from Lost on Ellen :D. If you eat fish twice a day for a few years then consider cutting back but 1 can of tuna isn't going to hurt anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭dave80


    jive wrote: »
    I wouldn't be too worried about mercury poisoning lmao. People worry about some crazy stuff. I've never heard of anyone with mercury poisoning apart from a guy I saw from Lost on Ellen :D. If you eat fish twice a day for a few years then consider cutting back but 1 can of tuna isn't going to hurt anyone.

    I know someone who used to eat 7 cans of tuna and he is still alive :), I myself ate 1 can a day for both 2 years wit no problems, I think you'd get sick of eating it long before you'd suffer any harm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    A mate of mine decided he'd start to bulk up so tore into the tuna bigstyle. he came across a recipe on a forum for making a tuna shake by blending a can of tuna in milk......it was only after he made it and eventually made himself chug it down that he read more of the forum and realised the poster was only joking! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭dartstothesea


    Re: Tuna, you know the way the can gives the net weight and the drained weight? For the purposes of working out grams of protein per gram weight, should I be just going with drained weight?
    Like if there's 20g protein per 100g tuna, and I have a can of a drained weight of 50g, I'm getting only 10g protein?
    Or does the draining only take away things other than protein?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭rocky


    Draining takes away brine, it has no calories/protein. Use drained weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Takes about twenty years for the toxicity to take shape like. If anyone has a ''my mate ate tuna once'' story that dates back twenty plus years, post away.
    Otherwise moderate tuna intake is better advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    great advise....my shake is only 37g of protein and thought was more...im really starting ton understand this more... thanks :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Dilsheen


    Because solid food takes more time to digest and to break down the protein and send it to the muscles, it can be best to take a protein shake immediately following a workout, since protein shakes only take about 30 minutes to reach the muscle after ingestion. Definitely, we can see the advantage to taking a protein shake in this instance.

    The so called "window of opportunity" during the 1 hour after a workout when your muscles are like sponges ready to take in all the easily digested protein(whey shake).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,902 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Re: Tuna, you know the way the can gives the net weight and the drained weight? For the purposes of working out grams of protein per gram weight, should I be just going with drained weight?
    Like if there's 20g protein per 100g tuna, and I have a can of a drained weight of 50g, I'm getting only 10g protein?
    Or does the draining only take away things other than protein?

    Normally the nutritional data will say if its drained weight or not, normally its refers to drained.
    I just use the per serving column as it refers to the calories/protein/etc in half/a full tin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 richy1916


    just a question what weight are you and do you do body building ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    Dilsheen wrote: »
    Because solid food takes more time to digest and to break down the protein and send it to the muscles, it can be best to take a protein shake immediately following a workout, since protein shakes only take about 30 minutes to reach the muscle after ingestion. Definitely, we can see the advantage to taking a protein shake in this instance.

    The so called "window of opportunity" during the 1 hour after a workout when your muscles are like sponges ready to take in all the easily digested protein(whey shake).

    http://workout911.com/?p=4231

    Unless you are training within 24 hours theres no need to panic about getting food into as soon as possible


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