Spray Foam Instalation Pics

paddy147

I decided to get both the attics spray foamed today
Ths insulation company arrived at 9am this morning.

They took about 1 hour to set the system up as the spray foam is a 2 part chemical that is mixed together and then heated to around 50 degrees C before being spraying into the attic spaces.

The foam is a biofoam and its breathable which allows the roof structure to breath yet its fireproof,water tight and has very good thermal and accoustic properties

It was mad seeing a spray of foam expanding to 100 times it size in a matter of seconds.
I also had special vent cards installed to keep an airgap in the roof.
All the wall plates in both attics and gable walls were also sprayed.

I take my hat off to the 2 lads who got up into the attics to spray the foam in,as the heat off the stuff was unreal at the time.
So between the house being fully insulated internally and now the attics spray foamed,is should mean no massive heating bills in the winter time and the house retaining its heat for hours and hours.

P.S-Im not allowed to mention the company name,so Ive removed it and the pics of their truck from my post.

Hopefully this keeps everyone happy.:)

Pics. [:)]

cardwizzard

Looks great Paddy. If I do ever reinsulate it will be sprayed like this. If possible could you Pm with the company name and info for the future. Thks.

paddy147

cardwizzard wrote: »

Looks great Paddy. If I do ever reinsulate it will be sprayed like this. If possible could you Pm with the company name and info for the future. Thks.

PM on the way.:)

paddy147

The cold and draughty wall plate in the old attic area.




Now fully insulated and sealed in.Bye Bye freezing cold draughts and heat loss.The chap actually extends the machine down to the concrete/timber wall plate and sprays over the actual wallplate.:D





The chap spraying the foam into the attic.The heat was unreal.:eek:

ART6

paddy147 wrote: »

I decided to get both the attics spray foamed today
Ths insulation company arrived at 9am this morning.

That looks amazing. Any chance of another PM of who they are?

Regards

ART6

paddy147

ART6 wrote: »

That looks amazing. Any chance of another PM of who they are?

Regards

ART6

PM sent.:)

ART6

paddy147 wrote: »

PM sent.:)

Great. Thanks a mill!

whitelightrider

Hi Paddy,

Was it expensive to get done?

SteM

paddy147 wrote: »

PM sent.:)

Would you mind sending me their contact info too please?

yop

Stupid question but would that not close off the "Breathing" required in the roof space?

I though air had to circulate around the roof space/rafters.?

SteM

The gaps are kept it seems.

paddy147 wrote: »

......I also had special vent cards installed to keep an airgap in the roof.......

yop

Ah sound.

Paddy what sort of price did you pay for that?

slavetothegrind

nice one paddy posting the results like that, fair play to you!

if you could pm the company name i would appreciate it!

also interested in the cost.

paddy147

Can I ask the mods/admin to allow me to name the spray foam company here please,as I am getting so many requests for PMs.

It would be easier for all,to just say the company name here.

So am I allowed to name them??

Thanks.:)

Richard tea

Whats the cost paddy?

paddy147

Richard tea wrote: »

Whats the cost paddy?

I got a very good deal,lets just say that.:)

I had 2 attics to get spray foamed and also the overhang of my extension.

yop

paddy147 wrote: »

I got a very good deal,lets just say that.:)

I had 2 attics to get spray foamed and also the overhang of my extension.

Why can't you give us the price? Its not top secret is it and not against the rules.

It would be helpful to know the price.

paddy147

The house is staying warmer for alot longer now.

Very happy with how its turned out.:)

yop

paddy147 wrote: »

The house is staying warmer for alot longer now.

Very happy with how its turned out.:)

And the price?

slimjimmc

paddy147 wrote: »

The house is staying warmer for alot longer now.

Very happy with how its turned out.:)

How has it been with the recent warm spell, did the house stay cooler during the day in your opinion?

paddy147

yop wrote: »

And the price?

Price was very good and I got a good deal indeed.:D

Each house would be different depending on what you wanted done,if you wanted vent cards and also naturally,the size of your attic or attics.

paddy147

byrybak wrote: »

seems like paddy147 is doin spray insulating himself?!?!?!

Yes,I just happen to have a huge big artic truck in my driveway with a 20 grands worth of spray equipement and 4 large drums of liquids/chemicals at 2 grand a drum.

Eh,no I dont,and I also didnt spray it myself.


P.S-Bit late to be deleting your post now,seen as I have allready quoted it.

byrybak

paddy147 wrote: »

Yes,I just happen to have a huge big artic truck in my driveway with a 20 grands worth of spray equipement and 4 large drums of liquids/chemicals at 2 grand a drum.

Eh,no I dont,and I also didnt spray it myself.


P.S-Bit late to be deleting your post now,seen as I have allready quoted it.

just tell us a price then

Buford T Justice

paddy147 wrote: »

Yes,I just happen to have a huge big artic truck in my driveway with a 20 grands worth of spray equipement and 4 large drums of liquids/chemicals at 2 grand a drum.

Eh,no I dont,and I also didnt spray it myself.


P.S-Bit late to be deleting your post now,seen as I have allready quoted it.

Ah now in fairness Paddy, no need to exaggerate.......











Its a rigid truck, not an articulated one.....:D

yop

paddy147 wrote: »

Yes,I just happen to have a huge big artic truck in my driveway with a 20 grands worth of spray equipement and 4 large drums of liquids/chemicals at 2 grand a drum.

Eh,no I dont,and I also didnt spray it myself.


P.S-Bit late to be deleting your post now,seen as I have allready quoted it.

Ah so indirect advertising!.....

So if you have no connection with the company then its simple to give us the price, otherwise it does point towards you having a direct link.

Macspower

yop wrote: »

Ah so indirect advertising!.....

So if you have no connection with the company then its simple to give us the price, otherwise it does point towards you having a direct link.

Hi Guys,

Jeez paddy you know how to dig a hole for yourself I've been watching this thread this evening with interest.

We are the company that sprayed Paddy's House and he came across us in this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056085552.

He has no affilliation to us whatsoever but I do appreciate the kind words...

I have no problem with Paddy disclosing the price he paid but it will not really be relevent to anyone else as it is totaly dependent on application and there are so many variable factors. That is why we always provide one of our consultants to view the house to give an accurate price...

The industry prices would be between 15euro per m2 and 30 per m2. Two foams are certified by the NSAI and the others are not... You get what you pay for at the end of the day.

Anyway If anyone has any general questions about spray foam or the industry in General I would be glad to answer them. Please don't ask me to give advice on individual situations or prices on this thread as it should be for information only.

mods I hope you don't mind... I felt I had to chip in....

Fingers well spotted on the rigid.. man knows his trucks

paddy147

yop wrote: »

Ah so indirect advertising!.....

So if you have no connection with the company then its simple to give us the price, otherwise it does point towards you having a direct link.

I have NO direct link,or any link for that matter to the company.

Im just a very happy and satisfied customer.

I also said to the Weatherseal spray foam rep that called out to see my house,that I would not dissclose the price agreed by us,on the internet,as that price was for the work in my house and was/is between myself and the spray foam company.

So I was and am keeping my word on that part.

I dont go back on my word or break an agreement.:)

yop

Sound out Paddy

Thanks Macspower for that. Is it the 15m2 the cheaper or is that 2 different types that you provide?

Thanks

delly

Folks, there wouldn't have been a problem with mentioning the company name from the start tbh, Paddy is an established poster which makes things different from new sign ups. There is also no problem with Macspower coming on thread.

Macspower

yop wrote: »

Sound out Paddy

Thanks Macspower for that. Is it the 15m2 the cheaper or is that 2 different types that you provide?

Thanks

hi yop

The product is the same. For this application we use a certified breathable foam. The difference in prices is down to the job and the requirements. There are a lot of variables like depth of wallplate, ease of access/workarea, depth of foam required etc.

EG one house might have a 4inch rafter and another might have 6 . A house with 500m2 will have a lower price per m2 than a house with 80m2 as fixed running costs are taken into account.

sorry for longwinded reply but it is not a straightforward subject.

paddy147

delly wrote: »

Folks, there wouldn't have been a problem with mentioning the company name from the start tbh, Paddy is an established poster which makes things different from new sign ups. There is also no problem with Macspower coming on thread.

Thanks for the support.:)




But how come then I was instantly banned for posting the exact same pics and mentioning the company name in the Construction forum then???:mad:

Thats why I didnt mention the name here and asked 1st,as I didnt want to be banned for it.

How is it ok to mention it here,but then you get banned somewhere else for it????

Its very infair and also very confusing,as you dont know what you are allowed or not allowed to say,and then you get pounced on and banned for saying something that you didnt know wasnt allowed.

paddy147

Can I also just add,that both my attics were fully cleaned out and cleared of any clutter the day before,for quick and easy access by the 2 spray foam insulation lads who installed the product in the attics

Myself and my girlfriend tried to give the lads the best,cleanest and safest attic space and enviroment to work in.:)

slavetothegrind

and a cup o tea i hope

i bet they were drowned in sweat after it, i had to install some tanks in an attic the day after it had been sprayfoamed and fcuk me i lost a stone with the heat up there!

....could do with going back and losing a few more....:(

gsxr1

Looks great paddy. .. Great job;)

paddy147

Thanks.:)

yop

Macspower wrote: »

hi yop

The product is the same. For this application we use a certified breathable foam. The difference in prices is down to the job and the requirements. There are a lot of variables like depth of wallplate, ease of access/workarea, depth of foam required etc.

EG one house might have a 4inch rafter and another might have 6 . A house with 500m2 will have a lower price per m2 than a house with 80m2 as fixed running costs are taken into account.

sorry for longwinded reply but it is not a straightforward subject.

Thanks very much for that. I get you re the pricing, it makes sense. I am doing a garage/shed myself with open office space on the FF so that solution, cost dependent, might be an option for me.
Are you East coast based?

I might fire on the plans at some stage to see.

Thanks again

delly

paddy147 wrote: »

Thanks for the support.:)




But how come then I was instantly banned for posting the exact same pics and mentioning the company name in the Construction forum then???:mad:

Thats why I didnt mention the name here and asked 1st,as I didnt want to be banned for it.

How is it ok to mention it here,but then you get banned somewhere else for it????

Its very infair and also very confusing,as you dont know what you are allowed or not allowed to say,and then you get pounced on and banned for saying something that you didnt know wasnt allowed.

Well different forums have different rules I suppose, also you could have been warned on previous occasions for doing similar so I'm not sure tbh. If it benefits the community and is a well constructed post, then I would see it as ok once you are solely the customer and not connected to the company you are talking about.

paddy147

delly wrote: »

Well different forums have different rules I suppose, also you could have been warned on previous occasions for doing similar so I'm not sure tbh. If it benefits the community and is a well constructed post, then I would see it as ok once you are solely the customer and not connected to the company you are talking about.

I posted this thread in the construction forum,with the exact same info and pics for the benifit of others.

Within about 5 minutes of being posted,it was edited and most of it was removed and I was then banned via a PM from the moderator.

I have all the PM s from the moderator saved here on my PC.

I feel very hard done by and I feel that 1 particular moderator has it in for me,with countless PMs to me with infractions and is harrassing me too.

Im not 1 bit happy about this,and when I do complain,its simply ignored.:mad::mad:

paddy147

Anyway,the constructions forums loss is the DIY forums gain.:D

yop

Paddy
I know you are not a man for prices, but out of interest, that roller door, what sort of euros are you talking for one of those?

paddy147

yop wrote: »

Paddy
I know you are not a man for prices, but out of interest, that roller door, what sort of euros are you talking for one of those?

The leccy security shutter is 8 feet 2 inch wide by 8 feet 2 inch tall.

800 euro supplied and fitted from C&S Shutter systems in Finglas.They also added in an "anti lift" internal locking system aswell.

If they are good enough for Tesco,02,Meteor,and Topshop,than they are good enough for me.



http://www.cs-shutters.ie/

yop

paddy147 wrote: »

The leccy security shutter is 8 feet 2 inch wide by 8 feet 2 inch tall.

800 euro supplied and fitted from C&S Shutter systems in Finglas.They also added in an "anti lift" internal locking system aswell.

If they are good enough for Tesco,02,Meteor,and Topshop,than they are good enough for me.



http://www.cs-shutters.ie/

Thanks Paddy, the might not come down this far!

Macspower

paddy147 wrote: »

Can I also just add,that both my attics were fully cleaned out and cleared of any clutter the day before,for quick and easy access by the 2 spray foam insulation lads who installed the product in the attics

Myself and my girlfriend tried to give the lads the best,cleanest and safest attic space and enviroment to work in.:)

thanks Paddy,

That really was beyond the call of duty but much appreciated.. you'd want to see some of the places we have been in :eek:

Macspower

yop wrote: »

Thanks very much for that. I get you re the pricing, it makes sense. I am doing a garage/shed myself with open office space on the FF so that solution, cost dependent, might be an option for me.
Are you East coast based?

I might fire on the plans at some stage to see.

Thanks again

certainly.. we work nationwide but are based in johnstown in naas.. you can get most detials form the link in my sig

paddy147

yop wrote: »

Thanks Paddy, the might not come down this far!

You never know.Worth the cost of a phone call to them.:)

yop

Macspower wrote: »

certainly.. we work nationwide but are based in johnstown in naas.. you can most detials form the link in my sig

A1,

I am going to send you on the plans of the shed by email. I will just note my username on here if thats ok.

Thanks

sinnerboy

Macspower wrote: »

Anyway If anyone has any general questions about spray foam or the industry in General I would be glad to answer them.

My understanding of the function of the vent card is that it does not provide ventilation directly. It is installed to prevent the expansion of the foam from forcing breathable felt ( when installed ) to belly up and so in that way , it facilitates ventilation indirectly by ensuring that the vent path over the breathing felt is not compromised.

Question 1 - Is this correct ?
Question 2 . What material is the vent card made of ?

From the NSAI cert relating to Bio Foam

Once cured the product is trimmed flat using a saw and covered with vapour barrier and lining board.

To satisfy the requirements of ICP 2:2002 and BS 5250:2002, a vapour control layer must be installed behind the plasterboard lining, unless an
assessment shows it to be unnecessary.

Question 3 . What advise do you typically give regarding the provision or ommision of a vapour barrier ?

From the NSAI cert relating to Bio Foam ( I have emboldened some text )

Although Bio Foam Spray Insulation is not classified as non-combustible and must be protected from naked flames and other ignition
sources during and after installation when used in the context of this Certificate the increase in fire loads in the building consequent to its use is negligible. Once installed, the product must be contained by a suitable lining board, e.g. 12.5mm plasterboard, with joints fully sealed and supported by rafters or studs.

Question 4 . What advise do you typically give regarding the provision or ommision of a plasterboard fire barrier ?

heinbloed

Good questions.

Another one from me about the breathability:

If the "card board" (PP,poly propylene ?) isn't breathable/diffussion open and the skin of the cured foam isn't - how can the finished product as such be sold as 'diffusion open'?
As far as I know - please correct me - the diffusion rate (greek: 'my' value) is tested on samples without cured skin on it .....so with the skin on it (at all sides as shown in Paddy's pictures) it can't have the certified my-value ?

The load bearing timber would be at risk in such a case....

Thanks.

Macspower

I'll get round to answering these questions tomorrow for you guys..

sinnerboy

The µ-value (“mu-value”) of a material is also known as its “water vapour resistance factor”. It is a measure of the material’s relative reluctance to let water vapour pass through, and is measured in comparison to the properties of air.

From here

Mellor

paddy147 wrote: »

But how come then I was instantly banned for posting the exact same pics and mentioning the company name in the Construction forum then???:mad:

Thats why I didnt mention the name here and asked 1st,as I didnt want to be banned for it.

How is it ok to mention it here,but then you get banned somewhere else for it????

Its very infair and also very confusing,as you dont know what you are allowed or not allowed to say,and then you get pounced on and banned for saying something that you didnt know wasnt allowed.

'
DIY and Construction are two different forums. Simple as.

Paddy, what you are allowed and not allowed to say in detailed very clearly in the charter. This applies to every forum.
You have been asked to refresh yourself with the charter a number of times. You obviously haven't, the fact that you complain here that you aren't sure what you are allowed to say is a bit of a joke.