Carroll or Berbatov

budgemook

I'm a Liverpool fan so obviously going to be biased but was trying to think about this objectively today. Who would you rather in your team, Andy Carroll or Dimitar Berbatov. I'd have to take Carroll. I think he's going to be a beast for us and despite Berbatovs skill and close control, Carroll is and will be the more effective player. Funny thing is Carroll would be unreal at Man U with Nani and Valencia providing the service.

MagicMarker

lol

That_Guy

Carroll's a smashing lad alright.

bradlente

Andy Carrolls 22

Berbatovs 30

Andy Carroll

Bodhisopha

The thing with Carroll is, it's not that people are saying he's not that good, it's just that he's unproven at the moment. I've seen nothing to suggest he will be a failure, tbh.

NukaCola

Why set a thread up for this?

That_Guy

Bodhisopha wrote: »

The thing with Carroll is, it's not that people are saying he's not that good, it's just that he's unproven at the moment. I've seen nothing to suggest he will be a failure, tbh.

11 goals with Newcastle which isn't bad for a team who have just come up and those two for Liverpool.

If you're talking about potential OP, then you'd have to say Carroll because he's the younger but Berbatov is the more accomplished of the two.

ShamoBuc

Hard to say. One is a proven prem striker while the other is hoping to be.
But I would go for Carroll because he has by far and away a longer future given his age.





p.s. another stupid thread to be honest.

DOC09UNAM

Who's the better footballer?

Berbatov.

Who would I prefer in my team?

Probably Berbatov, when he's good, he's fúcking shít hot, and it's beautiful to watch.

budgemook

I just mean who would you rather in your team right now.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Berbatov. It's like watching porn and football at the same time when he's on form.

Will I Amnt

Bit of a poor comparison because of the age difference,if I was offered the choice for a 1 year only contract for next season I'd take berbatov every day of the week.
This is really a thinly veiled disguise of a thread to try and justify the price paid for Carroll.

NukaCola

This thread wont end well......

ShamoBuc

baz2009 wrote: »

Berbatov. It's like watching porn and football at the same time when he's on form.

if you are gay maybe;)



p.s. nothing wrong with being gay btw!

Predalien

To have in the team right now I'd take Berbatov, but to have at the club for the future Carroll is the obvious choice, he has all the potential to be an excellent player.

The Muppet

Atari Jaguar

budgemook

cambo2008 wrote: »

Bit of a poor comparison because of the age difference,if I was offered the choice for a 1 year only contract for next season I'd take berbatov every day of the week.
This is really a thinly veiled disguise of a thread to try and justify the price paid for Carroll.

It really isn't. I had just been thinking that looking good is worth nothing without goals. Obviously berbatov gets goals but I think Carroll is likely to get a lot more

3hn2givr7mx1sc

The Muppet wrote: »

Atari Jaguar

Ah, he's never really performed in the big games.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

budgemook wrote: »

It really isn't. I had just been thinking that looking good is worth nothing without goals. Obviously berbatov gets goals but I think Carroll is likely to get a lot more

I suggest you watch more Berba. He isn't 'just goals'. His ability to hold the ball up is excellent, he's great at linking with players and playing little one-twos around the box to create a chance. He closes defenders down when he's bothered too.

The Muppet

I'm just looking forward to the Rooney V Ngog thread.

NukaCola

The Muppet wrote: »

I'm just looking forward to the Rooney V Ngog thread.

Suarez vs Chicarito thread FTW

greendom

Berbatov - Carrol may turn out to be better, but I question his ability to control his personal life and that his off the field antics could end up proving more than just a minor distraction

Essien

Berbatov could still be almost as good in 3 or even 4 years time. He won't stop doing the sublime technical things he does best. Physical attributes like pace and strength are a very small part of his game.

Cool thread

daithijjj

We will see how good berbatov is against the same defence over the weekend as carroll was on monday.

Berbatov, fine player, however i get the feeling he has had the benefit of some whippets doing all the work around him while playing for spurs and united, united have quality around berbatov and he feeds off that very well.

As an aside, if i was given the choice of a player to have in my team for the next year or two, id have Park over Berbatov every day of the week.

NukaCola

NukaCola wrote: »

Suarez vs Chicarito thread FTW

Liverpool match day programme v United match day programme.

greendom

daithijjj wrote: »

We will see how good berbatov is against the same defence over the weekend as carroll was on monday.

Berbatov, fine player, however i get the feeling he has had the benefit of some whippets doing all the work around him while playing for spurs and united, united have quality around berbatov and he feeds off that very well.

As an aside, if i was given the choice of a player to have in my team for the next year or two, id have Park over Berbatov every day of the week.

So are you saying that if Berbatov doesn't score against City (twice presumably) then Carrol is the better player. You can't really draw that conclusion can you ?

MagicMarker

daithijjj wrote: »

We will see how good berbatov is against the same defence over the weekend as carroll was on monday.

What? Does he have to score more than 2 to be better than Carroll or something? Is that how it works these days?

witnessrenegade

Your only looking for a quick reply to see what player to pick for your fantasy team!

Bodhisopha

That_Guy wrote: »

11 goals with Newcastle which isn't bad for a team who have just come up and those two for Liverpool.

If you're talking about potential OP, then you'd have to say Carroll because he's the younger but Berbatov is the more accomplished of the two.

Exactly, i think the LOL's are a bit misplaced as Carroll is a bit of an unknown quantity but so far you have to say so far so good.

I suspect many defenders in the premier league would prefer to play against Berbatov.

daithijjj

greendom wrote: »

So are you saying that if Berbatov doesn't score against City (twice presumably) then Carrol is the better player. You can't really draw that conclusion can you ?

Well what else can we judge it on?, if carroll was 30 years old then maybe we could have a balanced debate about careers. Should we rewind back to when berbatov was 22 and compare them?.

As far as i can tell, this was a thread on who you would prefer in you team right now, no?. Thats all i was getting at with the reference to city.

MagicMarker

daithijjj wrote: »

Well what else can we judge it on?, if carroll was 30 years old then maybe we could have a balanced debate about careers. Should we rewind back to when berbatov was 22 and compare them?.

As far as i can tell, this was a thread on who you would prefer in you team right now, no?. Thats all i was getting at with the reference to city.

Well would you not prefer the premier league's top scorer right now, no?

The Muppet

daithijjj wrote: »

Well what else can we judge it on?, if carroll was 30 years old then maybe we could have a balanced debate about careers. Should we rewind back to when berbatov was 22 and compare them?.

As far as i can tell, this was a thread on who you would prefer in you team right now, no?. Thats all i was getting at with the reference to city.

Perhaps the amount of goals they have both scored over the season could be a good barometer as they are both strikers.;)

greendom

daithijjj wrote: »

Well what else can we judge it on?, if carroll was 30 years old then maybe we could have a balanced debate about careers. Should we rewind back to when berbatov was 22 and compare them?.

As far as i can tell, this was a thread on who you would prefer in you team right now, no?. Thats all i was getting at with the reference to city.

I thought we were trying to judge the better player. I would argue it's not possible to work that out from one game. Especially a game where the opposition were so poor. I imagine City will be a completely different team tomorrow to the one that let Liverpool walk all over them last weekend.

Paully D

Berbatov on Monday's, Tuesday's, Wednesday's, Thursday's, Friday's, Saturday's and Sunday's.

I like Carroll as a footballer, very good player, but Berbatov's on another planet.

daithijjj

MagicMarker wrote: »

Well would you not prefer the premier league's top scorer right now, no?

Your own manager doesnt fancy him over the other lads with less goals, why would i or you?

Liam O

daithijjj wrote: »

Well what else can we judge it on?, if carroll was 30 years old then maybe we could have a balanced debate about careers. Should we rewind back to when berbatov was 22 and compare them?.

As far as i can tell, this was a thread on who you would prefer in you team right now, no?. Thats all i was getting at with the reference to city.

When Berbatov was Carroll's age he was a regular on a team that were CL finalists. Can't remember if he played in the final but I think he played in the semis.

Berbatov wins.

Fuhrer

daithijjj wrote: »

Your own manager doesnt fancy him over the other lads with less goals, why would i or you?

Throw Carrol in contention and he'd be even further behind Berbatov.

Just because Hernandez and Rooney are so good, doesnt make Carrol better.

The Muppet

daithijjj wrote: »

Your own manager doesnt fancy him over the other lads with less goals, why would i or you?

Fergies just resting him with all the finals coming up.:D

Mister men

Paully D wrote: »

Berbatov on Monday's, Tuesday's, Wednesday's, Thursday's, Friday's, Saturday's and Sunday's.

I like Carroll as a footballer, very good player, but Berbatov's on another planet.

Lazytown?

Johner

bradlente wrote: »

Andy Carrolls 22

Berbatovs 30

Andy Carroll

Berbatov smokes them for breakfast.

Jordonvito

What random players to compare, completely different players, like comparing an aston martin (Berba) and a Ford Transit (Carroll), both are very useful depending on the situation.

daithijjj

greendom wrote: »

I thought we were trying to judge the better player. I would argue it's not possible to work that out from one game. Especially a game where the opposition were so poor. I imagine City will be a completely different team tomorrow to the one that let Liverpool walk all over them last weekend.

Im sure every other team played a wolves first choice 11, lets not go down that road about teams rolling over?

Johner

Johner wrote: »

Berbatov smokes them for breakfast.

Had to laugh at that.

Berbatov smokes Carrolls :pac:

mink_man

lol. Berbatov 8 days of the week.

greendom

daithijjj wrote: »

Im sure every other team played a wolves first choice 11, lets not go down that road about teams rolling over?

I'm not, I'm just saying that it was a poor reference point to judge the relative merits of the 2 players. You need more to go on - like an entire season

happyoutscan

Geez, some people can take threads a bit too seriously.

Carroll by the way.

budgemook

Berbatov is the more skilled player, Carroll the more effective. Carroll would walk on united team, just because of how perfect he would be for them

daithijjj

greendom wrote: »

I'm not, I'm just saying that it was a poor reference point to judge the relative merits of the 2 players. You need more to go on - like an entire season

Well its difficult to judge on an entire season because carroll is just back from missing 3 months of it.

Liam O

budgemook wrote: »

Berbatov is the more skilled player, Carroll the more effective. Carroll would walk on united team, just because of how perfect he would be for them

Maybe walk onto United's bench because no way is he getting in ahead of Rooney, Chico and Berba.

ShamoBuc

Liam O wrote: »

Maybe walk onto United's bench because no way is he getting in ahead of Rooney, Chico and Berba.

if he could only get onto the bench, he would most likely be sitting next to Berba!