Why I'm getting sick of Android and considering iPhone!

floggg

I've been a happy HTC Desire owner for about a year or so, and haven't really had any complaints. In fact, I've been championing android for the past while for its great features and customisation options, and persuaded my brother and sister to plum for Android over an iPhone.

I recently went ahead and bought an iPad. At the time, I know it was inferior to high end Android Tablets in terms of hardware options, connections, and customisation etc, but I figured for tablets at least content is king.

Tablets aren't something anybody really needs, especially if you have a computer already, but they are pretty fun content consumption devices. So, stands to reason that the tablet with the best content (in the form of apps etc) is the best choice, so I plummed for apple and the apple app store.

While i really appreciated the iPad's features and brilliant content, I was also aware of its restrictions (particularly the absence of flash and the way its tied to iTunes). As a result, I wasn't eager to switch to iPhone over Android, and have been looking forward to the Samsung Galaxy S2 release for the past few weeks for an upgrade.

Yesterday however, my outlook started to change.

I was feeling a little bit bored with my Desire (rooted, using LeeDroid) and decided to change to Cyanogenmod for a refresh. I flashed and installed without much of a hitch, which is one of the great virtues of Android I guess. I was happy enough with Cyanogenmod as a rom, though ultimately it doesn't differ terribly from the overall Android experience.

However, I've had a few issues with restoring my market links and data on apps, and managing memory and partitions etc to make everything fit again, which i still haven't resolved.

All these issues are leading me to miss the simplicity of the iPad and wish i had that on my phone. Yes, there are serious limitations to the iOS platform, but do you know what, everything just works! You plug it in, set it up once, and then everything seems to just work. The most complicated part is syncing with iTunes!

Yes, its missing flash and SD cards, and it can be a pain getting stuff on or off, but its clearly laid out, user friendly, intuitive.

Yes, there is little or no customisation options, but its easy to set up, configure, and there is no need to delve deep into menus, options, settings, etc.

Yes, you can't side load apps and apple are overly restrictive on what can or can't be offered in the appstore. But there is little or no malware apps, and while there may be just as much pointless duplicate apps in the app store, they are at least better hidden.

The UI is clean, crisp, clear and pretty. Android is often ugly. How many pretty android apps are there (excluding those that originated in iOS)?

The iTunes and App Stores are well laid out, clean, clear and easy to navigate.

The Android market on the other hand is just a mess. Finding apps is sheer pot luck at times. A search for anything brings up hundreds of useless and irrelevant apps. There is no reasonable filtering of apps to exclude the crap. While in theory Android's open policy for apps is great, the amount of junk that gets through is ridiculous. Again, I know there is a similar amount of crap in the apple app store, but it never gets in your way as much.

The apple store also has by far and away the best range of games etc. Excluding iOS ports, there are few truly great games on Android. The biggest games at the minute are all iPhone ports.

This time last year, I was ok with the fact that the Android market was comparatively underpopulated, because I thought it would quickly catch up given its popularity. However, while the number of apps has increased exponentially, there still isn't all that many great or killer apps out there, particularly games. And less still that are Android exclusive.

Where Android gets it right over iPhone is widgets, notification and the less restrictive approach to settings which allows the likes of locale and tasker.

I'm not sure how I would feel about losing widgets or the notification system, but right now, other than price (I'm on meteor now, so the prospect of moving to a much more expensive Vodafone for a subsidised but still expensive iPhone is not pretty), the main thing keeping me from moving is Locale/Tasker.

I take it for granted at this stage, but the joy of never having to change settings is not to be taken for granted.

But is that enough?

I'd be interested in anybody else's views, particularly people who moved from iPhone to Android.

PogMoThoin

Eh, Okay

iwo

Hi, excuse me my ignorance but what is your point ? If you are unhappy with android why don't you simply switch to iPhone?

Venom

If you're not happy with Android move to iOS. How will anyone posting here make things better for you?

floggg

I was hoping somebody who'd moved from iPhone to android could tell me whether I was making a mistake or not!

That, and having a bad day and needed to rant about something. These things at least normally generate an interesting debate.

osnola ibax

I know where you are coming from op.

kesey

You'd be making a mistake which would haunt you for the rest of your life.

srsly78

Why are you comparing custom roms on one platform with stock on another? Your problems seem to stem from the custom roms being incompatible with each other tbh, can't really blame android for that. Comparison to iphone jailbreaking would appear more fair, and that has it's own problems with instability and crashes etc.

iwo

floggg wrote: »

I was hoping somebody who'd moved from iPhone to android could tell me whether I was making a mistake or not!

That, and having a bad day and needed to rant about something. These things at least normally generate an interesting debate.

All you doing is trying to open another (geezus) debate iOS vs android? seriously....are you able to take more of this sh!t?
Again, possessing a phone isn't possessing a mortgage or something like that so just buy iphone..you get bored..go back to android.

PogMoThoin

Think about the future

iPhone = tied to one manufacturer
Android = choice

Off you go if you feel you're getting a better deal

iwo

iwo wrote: »

All you doing is trying to open another (geezus) debate iOS vs android? seriously....are you able to take more of this sh!t?
Again, possessing a phone isn't possessing a mortgage or something like that so just buy iphone..you get bored..go back to android.

congratulations... you started another iOS vs android topic :) as I said few minutes ago

tman

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Think about the future

iPhone = tied to one manufacturer
Android = choice

Off you go if you feel you're getting a better deal

Worse still, you're tied to iTunes!
I'm sure it's great if you own a mac, but the windows version is such a horrible bloated piece of crap...

RxQueen

I moved from I-phone to Android, I got a HTC desire Z..

meh if you could mix both phones you would have a pretty awesome phone.

camera is way better on my HTC phone. I personally prefer the apps on the I-phone, i find the search function a lot easier , and it had more to suit my needs. But i have the majority of what I want on my andriod.

Its all personal choice really at the end of the day.

If you dont like the i-phone, sell it and go back to Andriod.

floggg

RxQueen wrote: »

I moved from I-phone to Android, I got a HTC desire Z..

meh if you could mix both phones you would have a pretty awesome phone.

camera is way better on my HTC phone. I personally prefer the apps on the I-phone, i find the search function a lot easier , and it had more to suit my needs. But i have the majority of what I want on my andriod.

Its all personal choice really at the end of the day.

If you dont like the i-phone, sell it and go back to Andriod.

Thanks, thats helpful. I think the Android is the more capable platform, but I feel like the apps etc offer a better user experience on iPhone.

Personally, I like iTunes - yes it can be slow and annoying at times, but I like the features, control, etc. I've been using it to manage media
on my android for the last year or so anyway.

PogMoThoin

floggg wrote: »

Personally, I like iTunes - yes it can be slow and annoying at times, but I like the features, control, etc. I've been using it to manage media
on my android for the last year or so anyway.

Now thats just wrong, maybe you should go back to Apple. The beauty of Android is that you can drag and drop your music, not use a POS software like itunes.

TheIrishGrover

You missed the simplicity of your iphone? But if you weren't dicking around with custom roms you wouldn't have had the problems you were complaining about surely? So your problem with Android is that you have too many options? That you can do too much with it? Tell ya what, I've a Nokia 8210. No Flash, no SD card, you can't install sh!t on it. Yours for 649.99

seanybiker

If your not happy just change.

Khannie

Nice OP. Some reasonable points. I moved from iphone to android and I'd never go back. I'll tell you my reasons when I'm at a computer.

bd250110

I think the points the OP raises are legitimate. The user experience of Android is not as good as iOS, drag and drop is great, but can make finding things on the phone a bit of a challenge. Android market is a mess.

Personally, I think iOS jailbroken si the best of both worlds. I've gotten rid of Apple's woeful (and they are truly awful, intrusive) notifications. I've added SBSettings to have control over Bluetooth/Wifi/Airplane mode in a single swipe. I feel like I have the best of both worlds. Taken to the extreme it's not all that much different to a rooted Android device, custom ROM's excepted.

Honestly, I think it's down to the individual. I don't get the hype about Android, I honestly haven't seen how it is categorically"superior", as Im not into custom ROM's, but I do value media, which iOS handles beautifully. iOS has quite a few browsers that will convert flash video to HTML5, so the flash thing is a non-runner. Flash based ad's are something I can live without.

LukeS_

I've been using Android for a year ago and just decided to jump ship to iOS and an iPhone 4 about two weeks ago.

I completely agree on most, if not all, that I read in the first point. Nearly all of the bad points with iOS can be fixed with Jailbreaking. I find it really hard to actually compare the both of them on dev side. The devs of each platform work on on completely different things. iOS they work on fixing the things that iOS should of had to start off with like flash (yes it's possible through Cydia) while Android developers just are looking to cook up the fastest new ROM available. Both have good sides and bad. Devs on iOS look more towards cool little tweaks you could show your friends while on Android it's just about performance of the phone. I think that could be done to the vast amount of Android phones out there though.

Don't get me wrong Android has a ton of positives too that some people like. I felt like I was trying to force myself to like Android whereas with iOS I can actually play with it all day and not be bored. I'd write all the good points about Android but I'm writing this on my iPhone so I couldn't really be bothered.

I 110% agree on the apps, I found it such a ordeal just to go in to the Market find what I want and off I go. There would be apps that really shouldn't be cluttering up the search. The AppStore is so easier to navigate and to find new apps that may interest you. One thing I hate about Android too is the way the 'top' apps are rarely changing while on iOS there's like different apps in the 'Top 25' like every week. I also just felt like the apps on Android are of a poorer design to iOS. I'll occasionally go in to the AppStore looking for something and download a whole bunch of other apps while I'm there. (impulse buyer? )

Also I found that there's not many exclusive games to Android as to iOS and the iOS games to be of a much greater standard. I probably had around 5 games at most on any of my Android phones whereas with my iPhone I'm downloading more and more everyday. If you want to look for a great example of a iPhone game ported to Android look at 'Tap Tap Revenge 4'. There's hardly anything that's been changed for the Android version apposed to iOS.

The more I'm getting in to jailbreaking and installing some nice little homescreen tweaks etc. I'm loving it even more. I was considering swapping my iPhone 4 for a Nexus S but I doubt that anymore. iOS gives me what I want and gives it to me nice, clean and simplistic.

One thing that I think is way better just while I remember - the keyboard. Such a vital part of a mobile phone. Apple hit the nail on the head with it's keyboard. It's fast and has really good spell checking IMO. One positive about Android is all the choice of different keyboards but I've tried them all like SmartKey, Swype, Better keyboard etc. but I've never found one as good as the one on iOS.

Inquitus

floggg wrote: »

Thanks, thats helpful. I think the Android is the more capable platform, but I feel like the apps etc offer a better user experience on iPhone.

Personally, I like iTunes - yes it can be slow and annoying at times, but I like the features, control, etc. I've been using it to manage media
on my android for the last year or so anyway.

If you like iTunes you are a technotard, go back to iPhone and you will be a much happier bunny.

Paparazzo

Too many people get bogged down in android v iphone or pc v mac. Changing from one to another isn't like cheating on your wife.




but within 5 minutes using itunes you'll start to scream and throw it across the room

jimmycrackcorm

The simplicity of IOS is appealing in its own right for some people and I wouldn't denigrate that. My OH is thinking about getting a smartphone and I'd consider that an iPhone might suit her better as I'd get tortured with Where's my widget gone and so on.

At the end of the day IOS has had a head start on Android but Android is growing at a much faster pace with much more possibilities. IOS is going to find it difficult to change because there is a user expectation in how it should operate now that any advancements would alienate such a lot of existing customers.

MC_G

There's no doubt the iPhone is a good piece of hardware and that there are plenty of people happy with iOS and iTunes.

I, for one, am not of of them and could not imagine having to use them again.

Android Market is lacking in comparison generally and for tablets especially and I look forward to the day that it either catches up or content creators realise that it's much easier to produce cross device/os content.

Kev.

Main reason I dont have an IPhone anymore is due to costs..

Im on a Meteor plan that costs me 35 euro a month and its perfect,

When I had an IPhone it was costing me 80-90 euro a month,

I like Android but Kies is a piece of crap and so is the market

Also its a bit hard updating your software on a Mac....

Jackobyte

OP says he likes how ipad works out of the box, and he gives out about how much work is involved in flashing custom firmware on his droid. How about you just use your Droid out-of-the-box? It's not as if you have to flash custom roms.

And giving out about getting bored with android is stupid. If the versatility of android can't keep you amused, iOS has no hope.

My 2 cents

evolutionqy7

Jackobyte wrote: »

If the versatility of android can't keep you amused, iOS has no hope.

I think the opposite. iOS has the ability to amuse people through great apps. Something that Android strugles with. Theres some amount of ****e on in Android marketplace. Some apps are piss poor.

Though where android wins if you want to customise your user interface. And thats it.

mickoneill30

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

I think the opposite. iOS has the ability to amuse people through great apps. Something that Android strugles with. Theres some amount of ****e on in Android marketplace. Some apps are piss poor.

Though where android wins if you want to customise your user interface. And thats it.

For me other major winning points are no need for iTunes, widgets, removable storage and standard USB ports (although that's not IOSs fault). For me I'm not lacking any apps I need. Its great having a billion apps if you only need 30.

Its all personal though. The OS is a tool, not a way of life. If amusing apps is your thing I'm pretty sure all phone formats can fulfil that.

iknorr

Iv have considered an iphone also.
I have used both iphone4 and my HTC DesireHD. Both have flaws. i prefer the look and feel of my HD over the iphone ( and any currently available android phone).

When i used the iphone it felt like i was stepping back a few years with regards the GUI.
The iphone market is far superior. BUT it has a good headstart but with the rate of android phones being registered per day ( something like 300K) then i would expect decent

Im into rooting and custom roms but not while theres 18 monthsn warranty left on my HD. If i had my own iphone i wouldnt do that either. So for me theres no reason to bring custom roms or rooting into the discussion.

The 3 main differences that i rank highly are the market, widgets/home screens and syncing to a pc/cloud.

Iphone wins on market but android is catching up quickly.
Widgets/home screens. Android wins handsdown.
Syncing again android wins.

One other thing which hasnt influenced my decision but i use it to justify my decision is the price of an iphone over DesireHD. Is an iphoen really worth that much?

angel01

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

I think the opposite. iOS has the ability to amuse people through great apps. Something that Android strugles with. Theres some amount of ****e on in Android marketplace. Some apps are piss poor.

Though where android wins if you want to customise your user interface. And thats it.

What I love about android, is that you generally don't have to buy any apps, unlike the iphone or even windows marketplace

iwo

IPhone is mega boring, I can't imagine looking at phone and see the same layout ..also I cannot stand some people thinking that possessing an iPhone make them better than others, this arrogance is scary...also every time I ask iPhone owner why they think that iPhone is better they say....."yyyy It's iPhone man!" Some clowns think that spending 600 on this toy bring their status to upper level - crazy

Chardee MacDennis

I have both at the moment, it's really a matter if choice. I love the tinkering I can do on android but I do like the simplicity of iPhone.

I wouldn't give an android to, for example, my dad though as I think it would be too much hassle where the iPhone he finds easy to use.

And to all the bitterness this thread seems to have raised with some posters above - just lol at how pathetic you are, getting worked up coz someone chooses a different os!!!

iknorr

totally agree with iwo and BastardPrince.

Its just annoying when i get remarks like the below.

A friend wants to get a smartphone. I showed him my DHD and he was very impressed.
His OH thinks that because it doesnt have viber ( viber is the new cool app on iphone, aparently) that its a crap phone. Whats wrong with skype? Does the same and more.

Its all about status levels and having the new cool apple thing. Any proper tech savvy person will have an android!

As i write this, my office buddy disagrees while he pulls out his, iphone, ipod, and ipad. says he has an ishuffle at home and his old 3gs for backup and is looking to buy an ipad 2 and macbook air.
I ask him why so much - his replay cos its apple and theyr great. They have all the best gear.
I mention android, he scratches his head. i go into some detail about smart phones. his response is a puzzled look followed by "iphone mate, you cant beat that".

racer1

This is my opinion of iPhone v android and I have owned both. Android can do everything you can do on iPhone. But iPhone can't do everything you can do on Android. That's my opinion and I maybe wrong. I like both phones too.

Kensington

iwo wrote: »

IPhone is mega boring, I can't imagine looking at phone and see the same layout ..also I cannot stand some people thinking that possessing an iPhone make them better than others, this arrogance is scary...also every time I ask iPhone owner why they think that iPhone is better they say....."yyyy It's iPhone man!" Some clowns think that spending 600 on this toy bring their status to upper level - crazy

I think consistency is a good thing. I find it annoying when screens are hopping all over the place and changing colour, it looks sloppy.
Couldn't agree more about the iPhone arrogance though. I own an iPhone because it does what I want it to quickly, it's slick (I find android can get very laggy at times), the 4 has a great camera and screen and it just works. Not because it's the current must have accessory. If you need to have an iPhone as a status symbol, well that's a bit pathetic tbh. Buy whatever works for you.

mickoneill30

BastardPrince wrote: »

I wouldn't give an android to, for example, my dad though as I think it would be too much hassle where the iPhone he finds easy to use.

A couple of people have said that on this thread. I gave my missus my old Android when I got my HD

She uses it for music, Skype, phoning / texting, photos, checking her emails and the odd bit of internet surfing. I'd say that'd be the average simple iPhone users use too.

She has no clue about the market or changing widgets or anything else about it. Every so often I take it off her and go into market and hit update all. Android might have the potential to do so much more but it's not too complicated for simpler users in my opinion.

tallus

Having owned an ipad, and now owning an Archos 101, I have to say I'm happier with the Android tablet over the ipad as it's much more open to the individual user , but the build quality, and user interface was so much nicer on the ipad.

Captain Chaos

The biggest issue with Android is that it is never issued as a stand alone product. Most manufactures stick their own software on top, be it Sense, TouchWizz. With Apple it's just iOS and you know where you stand, WP7 all manufactures just put the WP7 OS on their and leave it alone, grand you know what you have to work with.

When I started with an Android I spend days figuring out what was part of it, what wasn't and try to delete as I wanted. Having used the 3 big OS's out there I still try an get my personal Android setup to resemble iOS and WP7 as I feel there are the optimum, most efficient and quickest navigation layout without all the extra unrelated Android baggage that gets thrown on top of a perfectly capable OS.

Still though, I miss a good few apps on Android that I have on iOS and nothing currently on Android comes close to doing their job. I need about 3-4 Android apps to do what one could do on iOS.

Google need to unify Android more, it's far to fragmented. Stop manufactures dumping their sub par software on top and create a system where by when a new version of Android is released, all current Android devices can connect to a unified site an update straight out so long as the internal hardware can be supported. A far cry from the current system of waiting on the manufactures and networks to roll out the upgrades which is just plain backward for a supposedly open source device and software that every month is getting closer to Apple because that is the only support system that seems to work.

evolutionqy7

angel01 wrote: »

What I love about android, is that you generally don't have to buy any apps, unlike the iphone or even windows marketplace

You again?

Hmm generally all the savage games that cost quite alot on Android and even more on W7 are more expensive. Like decent HD and 3D games.

Both platforms have free apps. Like Android is the only one that has advertisement in apps?

Id say theres more free apps on iOS now than on Android.

I see Gameloft giving away all the cool games for iOS for under 1 euro what costs what costs 3.50+ on Android.

And tbh theres sweet feck all decent games and apps on Android

iwo

Not all of us - phone users what to play on phones...and, I would hate to pick up any phone looking exactly the same....I'm very happy to see different UIs and this is why Android in interesting and fun. I still think that this discussion is pointless as we talk about personal preferences.....world isn't black and white, and figures are clear - Android just hammers other systems and I don't care why, this is just a fact.

evolutionqy7

Tbh world is black and white. Most users that don't even find their way to forums to do some research or to chat don't give a feck about custom and different. They just want to use something to use without having to look at the manual. Android might be easy to use for us, but not for the rest of the world . The industry standard right now is iOS. Don't know how many times i've heard my friends say oh thats cool and thats better than the iphone when i showed of android or win7. They still go out and get the iPhone. The only reason android took over iOS was cause you can get android phones cheaper. Especialy low end android phones. Apple built a really good product image and it will be very hard to take it away from them.

iwo

Whatever...just make yourself happy and let other people enjoy their choices and preferences.

bd250110

I don't understand the bitterness on the thread from Android users. I don't see why preferring iOS is so awful, but each to their own.

Someone mentioned that the Android handsets "sync" better with a PC. I would argue that "drag and drop" is not sync, which to my mind is an automatic process. iOS happily syncs with a PC or Mac via iTunes, iDisk/MobileMe or Google Services, giving more options. Third party programmes for Android like DoubleTwist look and feel just like....iTunes!

People like the "free" apps, but the problem is that developers can not make anywhere near as much money on Android as they can on iOS. It's so easy to buy an app/song/etc on an iOS device. All you need is your iTunes password. At the minute the advantage is to Apple, but if Google gets NFC and phone based payements going, things could change.

I think a bit of criticism is healthy, platforms always need improving. IMHO Android has notifications absolutely nailed, Honeycomb shows the UI is being overhauled. Old arguments like "iPhone has no flash" and "iOS has a better UI" will not hold water anymore. Both Apple and Google are going to being some fantastic devices to the table in the coming years.

seanybiker

I agree with one or two of the posts here. I rather android personally but if my father wanted a new phone I wouldnt tell him to go android. He's bad enough with using his tocco lite as it is.
Op having a phone for over a year and only getting annoyed with it now is fairly good going for a phone to be honest. I never had a phone for over a year. Jaysus I normally get bored after a few months. At least you had the phone long enough to defintiley make up your mind if you want android or not. I used my brtohers iPhone once and it done my nut in. It's not a horrible phone at all its just I don't like it. Go for whatever phone you want. If you bought a desire over a year ago I think its safe to say you can afford to change from one Os to another if you don't like it.

The Corinthian

Interesting discussion.

IMHO, the iOS-Android debate is adopting eerily similar tones reminiscent of the old Windows-Linux debate. And certainly there are strong parallels, with the iOS geared towards the non-technical, "I want it to work with a minimum of hassle", demographic and Android appealing more towards the more technical, "I don't want to be told what I can or cannot do with my phone" demographic.

And in this regard, perhaps there will never be an overall dominant phone OS, because unless the iOS is given a jail-broken option, or Android is able to perfect a user experience that even my mother could master in twenty minutes, the twain will be doomed to service different markets.

For example, the techie in me loves Android - I can tweak it to my heart's content, write and install my own software with ease and generally not be limited by what The Divine Job tells me to do (without jail-breaking the damned thing whenever there's an update).

However, the businessman in me dislikes how the UI can often be flaky, the market is rudimentary and open to malicious or simply downright badly written apps being offered and, most of all, that I have to find alternatives if I don't want Google to have access to all my data (syncing with Outlook, being a case in point).

Now I can navigate around or otherwise deal with all of Androids limitations - but only because I am tech savvy. My mother is a complete tech-luddite. My father is more so than many of his advanced age, but even then he wouldn't be able to manage most of it. Less said about my OH the better. Indeed, most people (not to be found on Boards) would not be able to tweak their Android phone to their needs. Most don't want to have to.

So, it'll be interesting how both OS's progress, between Apple's moves towards more open development with HTML5 and Google's move to clean up the GUI. However, there remains the distinct possibility that the two will remain, much like Windows (or increasingly Apple) and Linux, servicing two different markets that will never see eye-to-eye.

iwo

I agree with on everything except windows vs Unix comparison.
1. There are more phones selling with Android on board
2. Android took over, symbian and ios

Where in windows vs Unix situation, windows is still a champion...

Also, I don't believe that ios will be less restricted as this is what Apple people wants, they don't like changes and tweaking, they just looking for "simplicity"
Apple wins with apps and design which are very easy to catch up from strategy point of view. I'm sure that Android will grab more people when apps will start be much better on this OS.

Kinetic^

I see where the OP is coming from. I cba with messing around with root or whatever else on the phone. As long as I can make/receive calls, use apps like evernote/dropbox/rememberthemilk etc then I'm happy. I'll probably switch from Android to iphone next time around depending on cost and features.

iwo wrote: »

Where in windows vs Unix situation, windows is still a champion...

It's not as simple as that. On desktops yes but on servers not so much.

LukeS_

Adobe are actually working very hard to get flash on the iOS platform without the need to download anything. Supposedly they're going to have a version where it'll be playing in HTML5 but just converted or something.

After owning an iPhone 4 now and jailbreaking it and tweaking it to my hearts content I don't think I'll be able to own an Android phone in the near future (I usually change phones every 3-4 months). Ive even found a tweak to simply drag and drop on Windows instead of having to use iTunes. Its called 'PwnTunes' and works perfectly. iOS just works the way the consumer wants it to.

Why I really think that Android is dominating iOS is all to do with the price. If there were multiple iPhones set at different price ranges then I'd say it would be the other way around. Most of my friends still don't even know what 'Android' is but they buy Android phones because they're cheap. No doubt if Apple had a phone out for like €200 PAYG then more people would have them as all of them are clued in to what an iPhone is at this stage.

mickoneill30

Kinetic^ wrote: »

I see where the OP is coming from. I cba with messing around with root or whatever else on the phone. As long as I can make/receive calls, use apps like evernote/dropbox/rememberthemilk etc then

But you can do all that without messing around with rooting the phone.

The Corinthian

iwo wrote: »

I agree with on everything except windows vs Unix comparison.
1. There are more phones selling with Android on board
2. Android took over, symbian and ios

Where in windows vs Unix situation, windows is still a champion...

However I was referring to the old Windows-Linux debate, not the current one with the benefit of hindsight. About seven to ten years ago there was a lot more hype on how Linux was going to overtake Windows and how it was "only one release away" from being as user friendly and stable as it. To this day, I still have to find a Linux distro that doesn't need serious tweaking on a PC.

Naturally the comparison is not perfect, but it wasn't really meant to be. It was more an observation about how techie-centric and luddite-centric products differ and how Android and iOS are presently servicing different markets.

And btw, sales don't really tell the full picture - there are still more phones selling with Symbian on board than any other OS

Also, I don't believe that ios will be less restricted as this is what Apple people wants, they don't like changes and tweaking, they just looking for "simplicity"

True, but Apple are not stupid either and they will bend to market forces if the demand is there. Additionally, Apple may have no option but to open up further as the anti-trust vultures are already circling and they will have to make concessions to demonstrate how they're not anti-competitive.

Apple wins with apps and design which are very easy to catch up from strategy point of view. I'm sure that Android will grab more people when apps will start be much better on this OS.

Only one release away...

Blazer

I love my iphone and find it's perfect for what I want in a phone.
I had an ipad and sold it as a mate was going to Austin and I was going to ask him to pick me up the 2nd gen. However his trip got cancelled at the last minute so I'm without a tablet at the moment.
Ideally I want the ipad hardware with honeycomb on it..
It doesn't bother me on the iphone but it annoyed the hell out of me on the ipad that I couldn't drag and drop and that I needed to install xbmc to actually play movies without having to convert them or upscale them for the higher resolution of the ipad.
I'm holding tough now to see what the 10" galaxy tab is like before taking the plunge..but I miss having my ipad around..for reading , quick browsing of the net etc, reading the paper in the morning.
I'm hoping the tab will come close to it..