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Simple Bass lines & Melodies

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz




    Really basic stuff - but here for new people.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Fantastic to be seeing videos like these from someone with such a background in dance music!

    Fair play to ya Matt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭ICN


    Good work Matt :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    This is quality, nice1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz




    Another little tutorial here - the delay on the sound has come out louder than in reality - so the riff almost sounds double anyway - you'll get the idea anyway :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Great stuff Neuro.

    Any chance you could so a piece on trance drums?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    seannash wrote: »
    Great stuff Neuro.

    Any chance you could so a piece on trance drums?

    Probably, I'll go through what I know (which isn't much) ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    They're all really great. I'll watch them again and again. There's lots of stuff in there, that you don't say but I can pick up from watching: "aw...so that's how he does it"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    They're all really great. I'll watch them again and again. There's lots of stuff in there, that you don't say but I can pick up from watching: "aw...so that's how he does it"


    Cool - i'm trying to keep it as real & practical as possible. As sean was asking... i'll plan one on drums and keep going over the builds as that's the biggest issue with keeping interest in the music.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Matt, I assume it's not just trance you produce?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    eeloe wrote: »
    Matt, I assume it's not just trance you produce?


    I can make anything pretty much... and if i can't doesn't take me long to learn other styles...

    Sort of like things:-

    70s Rock, Rock & Roll, Blues, Pop, Heavy Metal, Jungle, DnB, Chillout, Breakbeat, Hiphop, Trance, EDM, Electro etc... Jack of all trades I suppose - melody being my forte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭ICN


    Matt, dont be so modest ;) :rolleyes:

    Can you do something on the use of reverbs / baseline settings.. on different elements in a track?

    Drums

    Stabby yokes

    Pads

    Background textures

    and then whether there are any considerations in making them all fit together. Would like to see what you do / recommend.

    You are on a roll - keep 'em commin! :cool:


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    I'm only really interested in the techno side of things.

    Be very interested in seeing you do a progressive house chord progression, I know it'll be the same as the ones you've done here, but it'd sit better in my mind seeing it done another way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    eeloe wrote: »
    I'm only really interested in the techno side of things.

    Be very interested in seeing you do a progressive house chord progression, I know it'll be the same as the ones you've done here, but it'd sit better in my mind seeing it done another way.


    Might need to poke JTSuited for those ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    seannash wrote: »
    Great stuff Neuro.

    Any chance you could so a piece on trance drums?

    You mean, the Neuro drums.

    I picked up a lot from watching the tutorial. I've tried to get "that" sound by all kinds of different ways. The way in the tutorial is one kind of clear way of doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭ICN


    Are you using Loops Matt?

    If so, would like to see how you handle / treat them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    ICN wrote: »
    Are you using Loops Matt?

    If so, would like to see how you handle / treat them

    Very rarely - but RMX owners can expect to see how to abuse that at some point. I usually only use a loop if knocking ideas up together and need something that is fiddly to make - usually the running hats as they would waste 5-10mins (and as a parent that's an eternity ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭ICN


    Haha @ the eternity thing - Snap ;):)

    Well, if you wanna show anything in regards to the loops you do use, I'd like to see what you do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    seannash wrote: »
    Great stuff Neuro.

    Any chance you could so a piece on trance drums?



    The basics there - now what do you want the focus on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    ICN wrote: »
    Are you using Loops Matt?

    If so, would like to see how you handle / treat them



    Basic processing - but can go much deeper...

    It's a pity i can't link to a project i've just completed as that has a bucket full of techniques going on - but will be spilled once released.

    More recently i've been trying to use as little of a loop as possible and mangle it up to create pure grains of the original sound - this gave the whole EP a distinctive lo-fi sound but with good clarity.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    Another one a little deeper for leads/melodies.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 845 ✭✭✭red dave


    I must say... I'm finding these little videos absolute gold.

    Screw the books :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Neurojazz wrote: »


    The basics there - now what do you want the focus on?

    Great stuff man,
    You should chuck these in the resources thread also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    seannash wrote: »
    Great stuff man,
    You should chuck these in the resources thread also

    Yeah will do once we've been through anything people want and i'll sort them all out into a clean post :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    What do you guys want next? - I have most the day free to do some more :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭ICN


    Layering a bassline

    A short percussive type one? and maybe a longer synth bass type one.

    Do you usually do it in Octaves, or like a chord?

    Would like to see your advice on EQ'n, compression etc.. in regards to it :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    ICN wrote: »
    Layering a bassline

    A short percussive type one? and maybe a longer synth bass type one.

    Do you usually do it in Octaves, or like a chord?

    Would like to see your advice on EQ'n, compression etc.. in regards to it :cool:

    Ok, when you mean bass line... you mean just the lower driving one and not leads etc? (just to be clear - as some people call leads basslines because of the pesky 303 :))

    I'll do this is Sylenth as that's pretty generic sounds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭ICN


    The language we speak is a complicated thing - You're right to check ;)

    ____________________________________________________________

    Yeah.. Lower stuff.

    Say if your Kick is A0 / 55hz.. How you then go about layering something that cuts through & has weight.

    I usually would try & construct a chord with the layers.. but I would like to see how you would approach it with your experience.

    Great watching how you work Matt.. You're very good at communicating the ideas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    ICN wrote: »
    Yeah.. Lower stuff.

    Say if your Kick is A0 / 55hz.. How you then go about layering something that cuts through & has weight.

    I usually would try & construct a chord with the layers.. but I would like to see how you would approach it with your experience.

    Great watching how you work Matt.. You're very good at communicating the ideas.

    Ok, I usually make one synth do all the work - Sylenth can also do tuned osc - for Electro and such - here's the basic Trance vid - please get back if there are grey areas in any of this stuff (even lurkers should chip in and ask as I could be dead tommorow :P )



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    And a quick one for leads.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    NJ, thanks for all the vids.

    I've got quite a bit out of it. Especially tiny little bits of technique.

    I've even started a Trance track that sounds like something. I was thinking of calling it The Rings of Uranus - though I'll probably have to change that - it does sound spacey though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    You know. What I'd really like is if you could talk randomly over the structure of a track you've already completed. The more random the better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    You know. What I'd really like is if you could talk randomly over the structure of a track you've already completed. The more random the better.

    haha, anything constructive or just ramblings? ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    haha, anything constructive or just ramblings? ;)

    The rambling is constructive.


    Anyone can show the basic "how to" - it's more the inbetweens where you say stuff - not with any particular clarity, but maybe clearer than if it was YTBS Rockschool

    Like the bit in the drum tutorial where you played with the decay on the hi-hat and talked about it. I kind of knew that already, and had played with it before - but now I have a different understanding and feeling for it, just by watching you doing your thang. It would probably go completely over the head of an absolute beginner - but for someone who's tortuously tried to learn all the different ways of achieving something, and not being sure of any particular method, it can be illuminating.

    You rambling away is great


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    The rambling is constructive.


    Anyone can show the basic "how to" - it's more the inbetweens where you say stuff - not with any particular clarity, but maybe clearer than if it was YTBS Rockschool

    Like the bit in the drum tutorial where you played with the decay on the hi-hat and talked about it. I kind of knew that already, and had played with it before - but now I have a different understanding and feeling for it, just by watching you doing your thang. It would probably go completely over the head of an absolute beginner - but for someone who's tortuously tried to learn all the different ways of achieving something, and not being sure of any particular method, it can be illuminating.

    You rambling away is great

    Cool, i'll slacken up on a few tutorials a bit more lol - usually I ramble way to much anyway and these i'm in are pretty lucid lol, i'll have time on thursday and will go right off on a tangent for you - something pretty different :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    The rambling is constructive.

    Ok, rambling posted up here (and a couple of other new ones).

    Youtube is allowing me to upload longer videos now also - so maybe can post some actual sessions soon (with rambling)

    Let me know if that's the sort of thing you wanted!



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    Ok, rambling posted up here (and a couple of other new ones).

    Youtube is allowing me to upload longer videos now also - so maybe can post some actual sessions soon (with rambling)

    Let me know if that's the sort of thing you wanted!


    Yeah, that's precisely what I meant. Yeah, actually that was really good.


    Now to apply it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    krd wrote: »
    Yeah, that's precisely what I meant. Yeah, actually that was really good.


    Now to apply it.

    Cool :) - I can do more on Thursday - so any gaps or stuff you'd like more detail on (or new subjects/vsts) just ask and i'll get on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭romarr


    Be interested in hearing your advice / see a vid on prepping material for playing out - Live sets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    romarr wrote: »
    Be interested in hearing your advice / see a vid on prepping material for playing out - Live sets

    Cool - quite a bit goes on there, If your into the Trance side also (and not my EDM antics) - Stuart is doing a Q&A on Reddits Trance section and you can quiz him there for advanced stuff about the main Binary set work that goes on :)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/trance/comments/gwlpa/binary_finary_ama/

    Will try to get that video up for Monday or maybe even tomorrow :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭romarr


    Neurojazz wrote: »
    Cool - quite a bit goes on there, If your into the Trance side also (and not my EDM antics) - Stuart is doing a Q&A on Reddits Trance section and you can quiz him there for advanced stuff about the main Binary set work that goes on :)

    http://www.reddit.com/r/trance/comments/gwlpa/binary_finary_ama/

    I'll have a trawl through that - more into the edm antics myself
    Neurojazz wrote: »
    Will try to get that video up for Monday or maybe even tomorrow :)

    ta !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    romarr wrote: »
    Be interested in hearing your advice / see a vid on prepping material for playing out - Live sets

    You're playing on the 6th?


    Mp3s and don't forget to wear the mouse head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    romarr wrote: »
    I'll have a trawl through that - more into the edm antics myself



    ta !

    Here's a casual one about live - just ask if you want details on any area.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭krd


    NJ, that was a really great piece. Lots of really excellent stuff in there I'd never heard before.


    I'll throw in something I know about laptops - that I've found out the hard way. Never block the fan intake (kind of obvious). Before you use the laptop - when it's switched off - blow through the fan outflow, to blow away dust build ups - since the fan airflow is one way, it has a habit of picking up deposits, the normal flow doesn't clear - mine picks up fag ash. Dust on the processor can causes a serious overheating problem - all processors have a panic, if they sense they're overheating - usually 80c, they automatically clock down - or trigger another panic that shuts off the machine (if you're in a hot room the chances are, if the processor can't cool as quickly as it normally would, you'll have a problem). Also be careful of sudden temperature changes - laptops are designed to run at room temperature. If you're at a winter festival in Poland and your laptop has been chilling at -10c, it will not like it when you try to wake it up. The shock could be enough to make it die.


    Thanks again for doing that tutorial.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    Wow, how did I miss this thread. Gold.

    Looking forward to a nice session watching these and then making music.

    Any chance of one on self-mastering?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    Wow, how did I miss this thread. Gold.

    Looking forward to a nice session watching these and then making music.

    Any chance of one on self-mastering?

    Cool cheers :) - There are some little bits of self mastering in there - but something to be avoided because of the issues with speakers/rooms etc...

    But saying that will do a brief run over typical things to avoid doing!

    I've got another 3-4 videos to do today, If i get a chance i'll show some tricks in them today :)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    I think we can all agree here that this thread deserves it's own sticky??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,791 ✭✭✭electrogrimey


    And maybe an edit of the thread title.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Neurojazz


    I promise i will clean this up and turn it into a meta thread - but life is hectic at the moment ;)


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,793 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    Are you the only mod here NJ?

    If ya needed a bit of help arranging the place I'd be able to lend a few hours a week! ;)


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