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Ferry Lift in the Docks Today

  • 14-04-2011 9:33am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭


    Heard the Galway Harbour Master talking to Keith Finnegan and he is hopeful that the operation to load the ferries onto the cargo ship will happen today, it should take around six hours to complete if it goes ahead.

    If anyone is around the docks keep us posted as the docks webcam is stuck on yesterday.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    rte radio news just announced that the plans to lift today are cancelled on legal and insurance reasons

    but that they have until tomorrow to do it.

    so not sure does that mean they are allowed or not. News didnt seem that clear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭emptybladder


    rte radio news just announced that the plans to lift today are cancelled on legal and insurance reasons

    but that they have until tomorrow to do it.

    so not sure does that mean they are allowed or not. News didnt seem that clear.

    The ship has now been 'arrested' and its captain detained.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    which ships captain?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭kraggy


    The cargo ship that was supposed to take the 2 ferries.

    Jimmy Clancy is laughing his hole off I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    The ship has now been 'arrested' and its captain detained.

    Where did you hear this sure he done nothing wrong ????? Link


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭emptybladder


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Where did you hear this sure he done nothing wrong ????? Link

    He's to be brought before the Admiralty Court in Ireland. Seems our own Harbour Master knows nowt about it.

    No link yet.

    EDIT:
    Cargo ship detained in Galway docks

    The ship that was due to transport two passenger ferries from Galway to Mauritius has been placed under arrest in Galway docks.

    The cargo ship that was due to transport two passenger ferries from Galway to the Indian Ocean island of Mauritius has been placed under arrest in Galway docks this afternoon.

    The order detaining the 7,000-tonne Danish-registered Thor Gitta was made by the Admiralty Court.

    Harbour Master Brian Sheridan said he had not been informed why the ship was being detained, but it would mean the immediate suspension of any plans to transport the two ferries from Galway.

    Last week, three men were injured when one of the ferries fell 12 metres from a sling as it was being loaded onto the Thor Gitta in Galway Harbour.

    A fresh bid to move the ferries was to have been made early today but it was cancelled because of what were described as 'legal and insurance' issues.

    Galway Harbour Master Capt Brian Sheridan said the issues had arisen between the French company which bought the passenger ferries and the Danish cargo ship's agents.

    The two passenger ferries had been owned by a well known Galway businessman but were repossessed by a bank and were sold to the French company following a public auction last month.

    A first attempt to transport them to Mauritius had to be abandoned when another freighter, the Pantanal, ran aground and was holed during a storm at Rossaveal.

    From RTE News


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    He's to be brought before the Admiralty Court in Ireland. Seems our own Harbour Master knows nowt about it.

    No link yet.

    Jez that is hard on him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭emptybladder


    Looks like the Irish Admiralty Marshall is none too happy with the Thor Gita. Insurance matters as a result of last week's debacle, one would imagine.

    It'll be another week here at least, unless they can get an expedited hearing in the Admiralty Division of the High Court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Jez that is hard on him

    Why?

    He allowed a vessel to be lifted 40 feet into the air with three persons on board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭emptybladder


    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    Why?

    He allowed a vessel to be lifted 40 feet into the air with three persons on board.

    He wasn't the only one. Wasn't the Harbour Master watching too. Bleedin scarleh for him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭skelliser


    from what iv heard the 3 dudes are taking a case, thats why the ship was arrested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭celty


    The most ridiculous thing about what happened last week was that those three dudes were standing on the deck of the ferry while it was being lifted 30 or 40 feet into the air. No doubt the skipper of the Thor Gitta should have asked them to leave the boat before lifting it but it would be so 'Irish' of them to sue when it was their own fault for being on board.

    Their job was just to bring the ferry from Rossaveal to Galway and to put the cable around the ferry so that it could be hoisted on board.

    The whole thing has been a fiasco, it was a miracle that nobody was badly injured or killed ... which they would have been had the ferry landed on the cargo ship rather than, luckily, back in the water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    This is Ireland so they will probably win the case as the buck stops with the crane operators in this case. If the 3 muppets refused to get off the ferry (if asked) the crane operators should have refused to carry out the lift. We obviously don't know what scenario took place yet!

    The other point is these 3 are the guys I have heard they are it says even more about their intelligence to be on a load that is being lifted. They would be used to operating cranes themselves and the regulations involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    People who sold the ferries looking to be paid for the damage done to the one that the Gita dropped ! High Court order for the arrest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    vicwatson wrote: »
    People who sold the ferries looking to be paid for the damage done to the one that the Gita dropped ! High Court order for the arrest.
    It was the extra weight of the 3 muppets that caused the sling to break was it ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Said on the news tonight that the vessel was arrested as the owners of the two ferries wanted compensation for the damage and apparentely its close to be sorted out. No mention of the three degrees on board


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    Sharp edge or an already damaged sling probably, you would also presume they would have properly rated and certified slings.

    You would also presume they would not have people on the load being lifted :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    He wasn't the only one. Wasn't the Harbour Master watching too. Bleedin scarleh for him.

    He is the captain of the ship. The buck stops with him - full stop.

    He is responsible for his vessel and those being lifted onto his own. As the master of the ship he has a duty of care to and a positive obligation to protect those on either vessel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    The crane operator has the final say on what happens and nobody else, the boss can be screaming and threatening the crane operator but the operator can refuse to carry out the lift if he is not happy with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,008 ✭✭✭rabbitinlights


    Any videos/photos of them dropping the ferry?

    S.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Where are the three thrill seekers from anyway? Local?

    And what the hell were they doing on board?

    They remind me of the kid that wants to get up on top of the trailer in that Sawdoctors song.

    Feckin eejits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Lapin wrote: »
    Where are the three thrill seekers ... Feckin eejits.

    Evolution in action.

    Unfortunately medical assistance was provided, so they may yet breed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,238 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Another attempt being made this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,209 ✭✭✭✭JohnCleary


    Galway.net webcam of the docks seems to be offline


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭extraice


    Attempt to lift ferries in Galway suspended just under an hour ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭Nuggles


    Oh for goodness sake.
    CRANE ALARM HALTS FERRY LOADING AT GALWAY DOCKS

    April 16, 2011 - 5:18pm
    CRANE ALARM HALTS FERRY LOADING AT GALWAY DOCKS


    The latest attempt to load two Aran Ferries onto a cargo ship at Galway Docks has been suspended once more.

    The operation to transfer the 'Clann Eagle 1' ferry onto the deck of the 'Thor Gitta' Danish cargo ship was halted shortly after 2 o'clock this afternoon.

    The ferry was lifted a short distance out of the water but lowered back down again after a safety alarm on one of the cranes sounded.

    The Captain of the ship took the decision to halt the operation and sent technicians out to examine the cranes.

    Mariners and divers had been working since 7 o'clock this morning to fit the slings around and under the boats.

    The Admiralty order arresting the ship was also lifted this afternoon and the ship is now free to sail out of port.

    The ferries have been dogged by bad luck since the 'MV Pantanal' ran aground off Casla Bay over two weeks ago, and three men were injured on board the 'Clann na nOileán' ferry last week.

    Galway Harbour Master Brian Sheridan says it's now going to be Monday at the earliest before the next attempt will be made to move the two Aran Ferries onto the 'Thor Gitta'.

    Meanwhile the original cargo ship which was meant to transport the two ferries, the 'MV Pantanal', sailed out of Galway Bay at 3 o'clock this afternoon.

    The Marine Survey Office agreed to allow it leave Irish Waters after an investigation into why it ran aground in Casla Bay over two weeks ago was completed.

    It's bound for drydock in Bremerhaven in Germany for repairs and will reach there next Wednesday.




    http://www.galwaynews.ie/18921-crane-alarm-halts-ferry-loading-galway-docks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,295 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    JohnCleary wrote: »
    Galway.net webcam of the docks seems to be offline

    I reckon it's been knocked out of action by the same poltergeist / banshee / taniwha / <<insert your culture's ghost here>> that's been working to keep the ferries here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭milehip1


    Can they not just sail the fecking things to where they want them?
    They are ships after all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭muskyj


    JustMary wrote: »
    I reckon it's been knocked out of action by the same poltergeist / banshee / taniwha / <<insert your culture's ghost here>> that's been working to keep the ferries here.

    Where are Mulder and Scully when you need them?
    if these ships aren't cursed................!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Chicken1


    Heard the Harbour Master on radio this morning saying there is a possibility of a large crane that can do the lifting of the ferries coming to Galway from Belfast, that should be interesting to see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,990 ✭✭✭squonk


    This story gets better and better as it goes! Those ferries don't want to leave Galway, and could you blame them? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 546 ✭✭✭gaillimhabu


    JustMary wrote: »
    Evolution in action.

    Unfortunately medical assistance was provided, so they may yet breed.

    From what I hear the 3 lads on board wanted to come off the boat but they were told to stay where they were. I'm not 100% on this so I'm reserving judgement. I suggest you do the same instead of replying that you'd prefer them not to have been given any medical assistance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    milehip1 wrote: »
    Can they not just sail the fecking things to where they want them?
    They are ships after all!

    Short-range ferries. They want them in India right? The cargo ship probably has the endurance for the trip, and will be cheaper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Short-range ferries. They want them in India right? The cargo ship probably has the endurance for the trip, and will be cheaper.

    Not wanted in India its Mauritius they are going to which is near the Seychelles and Madagascar its in the Indian Ocean.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Not wanted in India its Mauritius they are going to which is near the Seychelles and Madagascar its in the Indian Ocean.

    Correct, but I think the point being made is that the ferries are coastal and not ocean going craft.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,717 ✭✭✭Raging_Ninja


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Not wanted in India its Mauritius they are going to which is near the Seychelles and Madagascar its in the Indian Ocean.

    India, Indian Ocean, same thing. They're not designed for a journey like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭milehip1


    Correct, but I think the point being made is that the ferries are coastal and not ocean going craft.


    sure just stick to the coast then, simples!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭mitsuko045


    Ah yes, along the coast line that connects Ireland to the UK and the UK to mainland Europe and beyond, I know it well. Many a childhood Summer I have spent there!
    :p:D

    Are the local papers covering this much? I'm definitely going to have to go for a wander around the docks when I get back, maybe go and see the next lift attempt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,348 ✭✭✭vulcan57


    mitsuko045 wrote: »
    Ah yes, along the coast line that connects Ireland to the UK and the UK to mainland Europe and beyond, I know it well. Many a childhood Summer I have spent there!
    :p:D

    That maybe the case but when you get to the Indian Ocean Mauritius is about 550 miles off the east coast of Madagascar. That makes things a little tougher, not sure they would have the range or even be able to cope with that amount of open ocean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭mitsuko045


    vulcan57 wrote: »
    That maybe the case but when you get to the Indian Ocean Mauritius is about 550 miles off the east coast of Madagascar. That makes things a little tougher, not sure they would have the range or even be able to cope with that amount of open ocean.

    Mate, at this stage I think we're all joking! :D

    They're trying again Thursday! I'll be there watching any ways (from a safe distance)

    http://www.galwaynews.ie/18955-another-lift-%E2%80%98jinxed%E2%80%99-ferries-be-attempted-thursday


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭celty


    Sure, those Danish sailors must be having a great time ... hanging out in the pubs of Galway ... in this weather!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,252 ✭✭✭✭Madame Razz


    celty wrote: »
    Sure, those Danish sailors must be having a great time ... hanging out in the pubs of Galway ... in this weather!

    Not many Danes on board by the looks of things, seems to be a mostly Asian crew.

    Saw one of the crew doing a spot of painting on the starboard gunnel earlier so it looks like they are being kept busy.

    The harbour crane was being positioned by her stern but I asse this has something to do with maintenance as opposed to any other purpose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    Looks like there could be lift-off today, possibly within the hour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Chicken1


    Harbour master on radio saying its going ahead and also that the Thor Gitta was in Galway in 2005 when she was called BBC Singapore.

    Pics on the Galway Ships website when she was here in 2005

    http://galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%205.html

    http://galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%203.html

    http://galwayships.com/cargo_ships/BBC%20Singapore%204.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    Lift off is hoped to take place around 11am, according to RTE website:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0420/galway.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    Any joy this time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 239 ✭✭Chicken1


    First one is up on board, Galway Ships website has some pictures posted already.

    Link: http://galwayships.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=11


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,423 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    All seem grand as I passed by 40mins ago, boat had been hoisted A-ok it seemed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭celty


    I was down there before lunch and the first boat, Clann na nOilean, has been hoisted on board. Looks like they finally got a harnass which was strong enough to carry 'em. It's an extremely slow operation to get the two ferries into place, but should be finished by this evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,263 ✭✭✭Shlippery


    I'm struggling to see how both will fit on the boat though..maybe its just the way it appears, is there a big compartment for them in the boat or something?


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