The China study

Lou.m

Has anyone read this, if so what did you think?

Did it change your attitude towards your diet, in particular your consumption of animal products?

What do any experts here think?

Did it raise any health concerns?


Did you disagree with any or all of it?

HAZEMAN

An excellent book, should be read by all who are hoping to have a long healthy life

Hanley

*grabs popcorn*

Sunnyisland

Whats this china study ?

Does studying china help you live a healthy lifestyle ?

Westernman

Its an amazing book with clear documented evidence on how diet effects us, evidence that can not be dispelled or overlooked easily. Its years since I read it but its a keeper and I still go back and reread a chapter or two.

It still influences my diet and I believe its one of the most important health related books in print today.

deegs

Westernman wrote: »

....evidence that can not be dispelled or overlooked easily. ....

It is either dispelled and overlooked or not, the ease of proof should have nothing to do with it???
I dont know anything about it either way... but the above suggests you follow its methods even though you are aware that some have disproved it... albeit with difficulty?

siochain

Have only read the first two chapters so I can’t fully comment, but its gas the way studies can be packaged, interpreted, marketed and sold.
Paleo is one end of the spectrum and the China study the opposite both advocating they are the most healthy diets.

To someone who has ready the China study where do the Eskimo’s fit in? With their high fat and protein diets.

One friend in work read the China study and adopted their recommendations and lost 2 stone in weight but he’s skinny fat if you know what I mean.
Genetics play a big part in how our bodies react to the foods we consume, I’m a big believer in trialling nutritional changes, get some blood tests done, make your changes for 4 weeks, keep a diary on how you feel and get blood tests done at the end and assess the results.

--Kaiser--

Westernman wrote: »

Its an amazing book with clear documented evidence on how diet effects us, evidence that can not be dispelled or overlooked easily. Its years since I read it but its a keeper and I still go back and reread a chapter or two.

It still influences my diet and I believe its one of the most important health related books in print today.

It can be dispelled easily, and has been done so numerous times.

http://rawfoodsos.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/

http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/Campbell-Masterjohn.html


All studies are not created equal and you should learn how to tell a good one from a bad one. Firstly, it's an observational study and, as we all know, correlation does not equal causation.
E.g. If I note that shark attacks go up at the same rate as ice-cream sales do I surmise that eating ice cream causes shark attacks? Of course not, there are other factors involved.

Hanley

There's entire websites and books devoted to debunking the China Study. Loren Cordain absolutely served Colin Campbell in a debate about it.

The whole thing is a load of veggie burger grass munching sh*t.

SteelyDanJalapeno

Hanley wrote: »

There's entire websites and books devoted to debunking the China Study. Loren Cordain absolutely served Colin Campbell in a debate about it.

The whole thing is a load of veggie burger grass munching sh*t.

Any link to that debate, wouldn't mind a look.

gavtron

TiltedBrain wrote: »

Any link to that debate, wouldn't mind a look.

Here's the PDF http://crossfitcoronado.typepad.com/files/proteindebate.pdf

tl;dr check this:
http://www.proteinpower.com/drmike/uncategorized/397/

JCabot

As part of a personal health drive I read this book and believed it made sense. Afterwards I adopted some of the recommendations and alter my diet by reducing the amount of animal protein and sugar consumed, many of the health issues I had resolved themselves shortly after.

If you are interested in this book read it instead of looking for advice from people who haven't bothered to do so, I notice most of the replies here are posters regurgitating someone elses opnion.

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Orla K

JCabot wrote: »

alter my diet by reducing the amount of animal protein and sugar consumed, many of the health issues I had resolved themselves shortly after.

How do you know it was both reducing animal protein and sugar? Could the improvements not have been from cutting just one of these out?

SteelyDanJalapeno

JCabot wrote: »

As part of a personal health drive I read this book and believed it made sense. Afterwards I adopted some of the recommendations and alter my diet by reducing the amount of animal protein and sugar consumed, many of the health issues I had resolved themselves shortly after.

If you are interested in this book read it instead of looking for advice from people who haven't bothered to do so, I notice most of the replies here are posters regurgitating someone elses opnion.

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I increased my intake of animal protein and fat and cut sugar.

just about all of my health issues sorted themselves out in the following months too.

El_Dangeroso

JCabot wrote: »

As part of a personal health drive I read this book and believed it made sense. Afterwards I adopted some of the recommendations and alter my diet by reducing the amount of animal protein and sugar consumed, many of the health issues I had resolved themselves shortly after.

If you are interested in this book read it instead of looking for advice from people who haven't bothered to do so, I notice most of the replies here are posters regurgitating someone elses opnion.

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So I'm guessing you switched to a diet of deep-fried falafel kebabs with garlic sauce and chips? Because that has no animal products or sugar at all so it must be healthy right?

I'm being pretty obviously facetious, but you can see my point that anyone who cuts out something from their diet in a health drive probably does lots of other things to be healthier too. All healthy eating diet plans cut out junk, that's pretty much the reason they work.

Hanley

JCabot wrote: »

As part of a personal health drive I read this book and believed it made sense. Afterwards I adopted some of the recommendations and alter my diet by reducing the amount of animal protein and sugar consumed, many of the health issues I had resolved themselves shortly after.

If you are interested in this book read it instead of looking for advice from people who haven't bothered to do so, I notice most of the replies here are posters regurgitating someone elses opnion.

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Wait... it's ok to regurgitate someone elses opinion once it's pro-China Study?

Glad that's been cleared up