The 10 Most Improving & Declining Players

MD1990

Premier League

Improving

1. Bale
2. Nani
3. Wilshere
4. Nasri
5. Carroll
6. Coleman
7. Adam
8. Smalling
9. Barton
10. Sturridge

Declining

1. Torres
2. Evra
3. Drogba
4. Gerrard
5. Lampard
6. Defoe
7. Rooney
8. Agbonlahor
9. Malouda
10.Keane

La Liga

Improving

1. Pedro
2. Ozil
3. Rossi
4. LLorente
5. Messi
6. Ronaldo
7. Griezmann
8. Parejo
9. Callejon
10. Ander

Declining

1. Kaka
2. Forlan
3. Fabiano - just left Sevilla
4. Drenthe
5. Del Horno
6. Pique - too busy with Shakira
7. Milito
8. Filipe
9. Raul Tamudo
10. Sergio Ramos

Bog

SUBTEXT: Age is a bitch.

The Floyd p

Good old PL dominated list.

Pauleta

Clarence Seedorf is a shadow of what he was. I feel sorry for him a lot of the time.

tommyhaas

Your saying Rooney is declining, he went 9months without scoring for Utd from open play last year, and he's banging them in now. How is that declining?

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Disagree with every name on the declining list.

MD1990

tommyhaas wrote: »

Your saying Rooney is declining, he went 9months without scoring for Utd from open play last year, and he's banging them in now. How is that declining?

your anwsered your own question

Fuhrer

Rooneys goal to game ratio is his second best in like 8 years

wicorthered

Lucas has improved beyond recognition. Joe Cole now plays like Cheryl Cole

Oat23

I'll forgive you for not including Phillip Wollscheid on your list of improving players. He just about blows every player on your Improving list out of the water.

tommyhaas

MD1990 wrote: »

your anwsered your own question

Generally if somebody has been playing poorly, and then they start playing very well, its known as improving rather then declining

MD1990

wicorthered wrote: »

Lucas has improved beyond recognition. Joe Cole now plays like Cheryl Cole

Lucas was #11 on my list - great player
Cole been **** for 2 or 3 years now

bookie basher

giussepe rossi has looked very good this season, i think a big club is going to snap him up this summer

MD1990

tommyhaas wrote: »

Generally if somebody has been playing poorly, and then they start playing very well, its known as improving rather then declining

its over the season not 4 or 5 games

Wilson91

baz2009 wrote: »

Disagree with every name on the declining list.

Lampard doesn't seem the same player he used to be recently. Whether it's a dip in form or the beginning of the end remains to be seen.

The Floyd p

Oatesy23 wrote: »

I'll forgive you for not including Phillip Wollscheid on your list of improving players. He just about blows every player on your Improving list out of the water.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3275/bundesliga/2011/04/09/2433080/from-fifth-tier-to-the-bundesliga-meet-philipp-wollscheid

Sounds good to me. Damn Germany and their international brilliance.

Oh and #1. Edinson Cavani?

flahavaj

bookie basher wrote: »

giussepe rossi has looked very good this season, i think a big club is going to snap him up this summer

Linked heavily with Barca.

tommyhaas

MD1990 wrote: »

its over the season not 4 or 5 games

So take this season as an example, how do his performances from the second half of the season compare with those from the first half? Have they improved or declined?

Melion

Declining:

MD1990 - Used to be so good that he can tell everyone on boards.ie how poor Fernando Torres is technically, now posts on boards.ie. What a waste of a career.

For anyone who isnt following, check the Torres thread

wicorthered

I think Essien has had an awful season. Thought at the start of last season, he was going to become the most dominant centre mid in the world, then injury hit and he's looked a shadow of that player this year.

Cypher_sounds

Ehhh every player goes through a thing called 'a dip in form' maybe you should realize that before making your stupid list?

staker

wicorthered wrote: »

Lucas has improved beyond recognition. Joe Cole now plays like Cheryl Cole

Cheryl has matured considerably better than Lucas in fairness. Much considerabler.

Paully D

In no particular order:

Improving:

Pastore
Wilshere
Lukaku
De Gea
Hazard
Neymar
David Luiz
Dzagoev
Marcelo

Declining:

Drogba
Gattuso
Gerrard
Ballack
Pirlo
Henry
Beckham
Zambrotta

That's all that I can think of off the top of my head. I've probably forgotten loads and included some that many will disagree with too.

Yakult

staker wrote: »

Cheryl has matured considerably better than Lucas in fairness. Much considerabler.

Do explain?

Mr. Guappa

So in summary;

Good players in their early twenties will tend to improve.

Good players hitting 35 will struggle to reach the standards they once set.

Hardly a ground-breaking revelation.

staker

Yakult wrote: »

Do explain?

I wish:pac:

flahavaj

Improving:

Youth

Declining:

Old players.

Seaneh

Most Improved Player in Europe.

Ignazio Abate.

/thread.

Bowlardo

MD1990 wrote: »

Improving

1. Bale (hamstrins are ****ed already -give me shout when he is 27)
2. Nani (half ronaldo going to join a spanish team and confirm that he is a women by falling over when someone touches him so he can pose to take a free kick that goes three yeards over the bar...cue camera zooming in on him looking disappointed instead of beating three players and scoring a goal as we all would hope he do!)
3. Wilshere (the real deal)
4. Nasri (join spanish team not madrid or barcelona not good enough for the latter and not vidal sasson for the first)
5. Carroll (got to get winger....will run amok in europe....they have to get to europe first)
6. Coleman (this is andy carroll unsung hero....wages 40,000...cross the ball,heart,energy,irish legend!)
7. Adam (harry redknapp spurs player written all over it....need manager to let him go and do his thing...an enigma because his position is defence midfielder yet he can't defender...fergie,alex, will not go for anyone)
8. Smalling ~(this guys is very good ....see you later ferdinad you ****)
9. Barton (finally grew up.....legend)
10. Sturridge (the only english real deal...in the words of ali G "is becasue he is black" answer NO because you joined a wanker club and should went to the first division and ran amok....4 tiem the plaer wellbeck is and listen to the ****e talked about him

Declining

1. Torres
2. Evra ~(best left back in the word)
3. Drogba (
4. Gerrard (injuies never a midfielder right midfiled for liverpool and he will be player of the year)
5. Lampard (finished)
6. Defoe
7. Rooney (too young too soon..next two years at madris and he will run amok.....go down as one of the greats)
8. Agbonlahor
9. Malouda (french irrellavent ..one good season
10.Keane

1. Bale (hamstrins are ****ed already -give me shout when he is 27)
2. Nani (half ronaldo going to join a spanish team and confirm that he is a women by falling over when someone touches him so he can pose to take a free kick that goes three yeards over the bar...cue camera zooming in on him looking disappointed instead of beating three players and scoring a goal as we all would hope he do!)
3. Wilshere (the real deal)
4. Nasri (join spanish team not madrid or barcelona not good enough for the latter and not vidal sasson for the first)
5. Carroll (got to get winger....will run amok in europe....they have to get to europe first)
6. Coleman (this is andy carroll unsung hero....wages 40,000...cross the ball,heart,energy,irish legend!)
7. Adam (harry redknapp spurs player written all over it....need manager to let him go and do his thing...an enigma because his position is defence midfielder yet he can't defender...fergie,alex, will not go for anyone)
8. Smalling ~(this guys is very good ....see you later ferdinad you ****)
9. Barton (finally grew up.....legend)
10. Sturridge (the only english real deal...in the words of ali G "is becasue he is black" answer NO because you joined a wanker club and should went to the first division and ran amok....4 tiem the plaer wellbeck is and listen to the ****e talked about him

Declining

1. Torres
2. Evra ~(best left back in the word)
3. Drogba (
4. Gerrard (injuies never a midfielder right midfiled for liverpool and he will be player of the year)
5. Lampard (finished)
6. Defoe
7. Rooney (too young too soon..next two years at madris and he will run amok.....go down as one of the greats)
8. Agbonlahor
9. Malouda (french irrellavent ..one good season
10.Keane

eugeneious

Pauleta wrote: »

Clarence Seedorf is a shadow of what he was. I feel sorry for him a lot of the time.

He was the best player on the pitch against Spurs in the second leg and by quite some distance... In the Milan derby he was also fantastic. He has been moved into that Andrea Pirlo role since Pirlo got injured and has been pivotal for Milan ever since.

tallaghtmick

no hernandez in the improving list shocking.

Le King

Bowlardo wrote: »

1. Bale (hamstrins are ****ed already -give me shout when he is 27)
2. Nani (half ronaldo going to join a spanish team and confirm that he is a women by falling over when someone touches him so he can pose to take a free kick that goes three yeards over the bar...cue camera zooming in on him looking disappointed instead of beating three players and scoring a goal as we all would hope he do!)
3. Wilshere (the real deal)
4. Nasri (join spanish team not madrid or barcelona not good enough for the latter and not vidal sasson for the first)
5. Carroll (got to get winger....will run amok in europe....they have to get to europe first)
6. Coleman (this is andy carroll unsung hero....wages 40,000...cross the ball,heart,energy,irish legend!)
7. Adam (harry redknapp spurs player written all over it....need manager to let him go and do his thing...an enigma because his position is defence midfielder yet he can't defender...fergie,alex, will not go for anyone)
8. Smalling ~(this guys is very good ....see you later ferdinad you ****)
9. Barton (finally grew up.....legend)
10. Sturridge (the only english real deal...in the words of ali G "is becasue he is black" answer NO because you joined a wanker club and should went to the first division and ran amok....4 tiem the plaer wellbeck is and listen to the ****e talked about him

Declining

1. Torres
2. Evra ~(best left back in the word)
3. Drogba (
4. Gerrard (injuies never a midfielder right midfiled for liverpool and he will be player of the year)
5. Lampard (finished)
6. Defoe
7. Rooney (too young too soon..next two years at madris and he will run amok.....go down as one of the greats)
8. Agbonlahor
9. Malouda (french irrellavent ..one good season
10.Keane

Not only do I think you heavily abused narcotics while writing this. You also have been abusing for the last few years.

You're like a more-Pete Dohertied version of Eamonn Dunphy. Bravo.

1mcampo1

tallaghtmick wrote: »

no hernandez in the improving list shocking.

Hardly here long enough to be mentioned

tallaghtmick

1mcampo1 wrote: »

Hardly here long enough to be mentioned

by that you mean the english prem????sooooo hes come from a weaker league,had a good world cup,scored 17 or 18 goals for man utd and thats not improving?:pac:

PHB

Smalling has got to be in with a shout on any most improved list.

1mcampo1

tallaghtmick wrote: »

by that you mean the english prem????sooooo hes come from a weaker league,had a good world cup,scored 17 or 18 goals for man utd and thats not improving?:pac:

Yes, he was good at the world cup but that was the 1st I (Am sure this is the same for many, many others) had seen of him. I hardly followed the mexican league while he was there, so dunno what he was like

curry-muff

Rooney declining? Tell Chelsea and West Ham that!!!

smokedeels

That list is essentially "names of players who've had a bad season" and "names of players who've had a good season", it seemed pretty pointless imo.

Funny, If you look at Rooney's stats (currently 13 goals and 13 assists in 31 games) at the end of this season, by most peoples standards he will have had a good one. I think he warrants his own list of "players who've set the benchmark too high the previous year"

ReacherCreature

9. Malouda (french irrellavent ..one good season

Just to pick one hole in your argument of many, this is rubbish IMO.

Malouda this year had 10 goals and three assists. The previous year he had 12 goals and eight assists. In 2008/09 he had six goals and five assists (his first 'full' year with Chelsea). This year isn't done, he'll get more than 12. His statistics aren't mindblowing but they're not declining. All this while playing in a fairly loaded Chelsea squad.

Also, what's nationality got to do with it? Everyone that has been discussed has been graded on their club efforts.

eagle eye

MD1990 wrote: »

Premier League



Declining

1. Torres = bad season but maybe, still too early to say he is declining
2. Evra = has went through a bad patch but ridiculous
3. Drogba = far too early to say that, you wouldn't have said that in November
4. Gerrard = Has had an injury prone year but maybe.
5. Lampard = Again injury prone season but far too early to say he is declining
6. Defoe = Doesn't suit Spurs at the minute, they want a big man up top and has been injured too.
7. Rooney = LMFAO @ him even being on this list
8. Agbonlahor = New manager at the club, again too early to say
9. Malouda = Again like Drogba you wouldn't have said this in November
10.Keane = Looks to be one of two on this list that is probably right.

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quarryman

Declining: andrei arshavin.

Such a promising start, been downhill ever since.

Insect Overlord

Declining: this thread...

Lando Griffin

How about the ever declining Heurelho da Silva Gomes of Spurs?
I think he has his own appreciation thread going on somewhere.

DazMarz

I will tentatively stick my head up for a quick moment and say Petr Cech. This season, he has been back to the form of his life (as in, the form he was in before he suffered his head injury). I always ranked him as one of the best goalkeepers going, but he was definitely shaken up by the experience and was not as fearless or as gung-ho as he once was. For some of last season and all of this season, he has been back to his best, although he never truly declined/went-off-the-boil that much. Chelsea's Player of the Season, IMO.

Also for improving player, you'd have to say Javier 'Chicarito' Hernandez. Every time he sets foot on the pitch for United, he scores! An absolute cracking buy by United and one of the best players they've had all season.

iregk

Yes just what we need, another he's crap/he's brilliant thread...

Can't get enough!!!!

TheTownie

flahavaj wrote: »

Improving:

Youth

Declining:

Old players.

+1

Also, if anyone thinks a young player is declining then that is often called "a dip of form" ! :pac:

upandcumming

quarryman wrote: »

Declining: andrei arshavin.

Such a promising start, been downhill ever since.

Dead right. Has been useless for most of his time at Arsenal.

Smegball

His assist rate this season wouldn't be classified as useless imo.

jethro081

tallaghtmick wrote: »

no hernandez in the improving list shocking.

well in fairness, he landed in england, and has been consistently scoring goals since he got there, so i don't see where the improvement has been. Hes been consistently good, not ok, and getting better.

young and good is not the same as improving,

ReacherCreature

Hernandez, at Guadalajara he scored 26 goals in four years.

At United in one year he has 17 in all. If he kept up the same pace (admittedly difficult) he'd have 34 goals in 44 appearences. He also hasn't been starting every game and is trying to score with Berbatov netting 20+ and Rooney hitting stride. Nani has chipped in too. So Hernandez is playing in a busy goalscoring section.

He's improving consistently.

CorkMan

flahavaj wrote: »

Linked heavily with Barca.

They should get Kun Aguero and Torres aswell if they get Rossi.