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Why am I so insecure about the British?

  • 04-04-2011 1:36pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭


    It's something I've been thinking a lot about lately and began wondering if others felt this way or if there was anyway to be less uncomfortable about things like the below.

    -> I won't watch television programs if they're british based. Which might be fine if it was out of loyalty to Ireland or not enjoying foreign culture based things expect 90% of what I watch is american programming.

    -> I don't like people who use british based phrases like "yummy mummy" "mum" "boxing day" yet people who use american phrases are no problem, and will point out what they're doing to make them feel awkward and bad.

    -> I don't like people who follow british soaps and not fair city, X-Factor/Dancing on Ice but not all-ireland talent show or watch the english coverage of sporting events covered on Irish tv.

    -> I don't like people who study abroad in the UK

    -> I despise anyone who emigrates to the UK but can sympathise with someone who emigrates to Australia/America or somewhere else.

    -> I don't like people who follow the english national team in any sport with any level of higher interest than any other country. e.g. Sports news reporting Irelands results and afterwards England, Scotland, Wales, NI's results while ignoring Spain and Frances games.


    To summarise it I have nothing against the English but I really don't like how their culture is jammed down my throat in this country and seemingly an awful lot of people like to get in on it, and those people really grate with me.

    I think its ok to dislike a culture but theres probably a more healthy way to do this than scowl or complain at anybody who shows the slightest interest in it. Any wannabe interest psychologists with comments on this behaviour? :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    Cause they like their toast done on one side, the posh feckers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Considering you went to some length there to describe how well and easy you avoid this "culture", why would you assume anyone is "shoving it down your throat"?

    Personally, I don't watch any soaps, never studied in the UK, none of the above really.
    But I do watch UK football coverage rather than Irish, because the old gits RTE drags out of the retirement home to comment on football games are incredibly whiney and annoying.

    Oh, that, and I married an Englishman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Downlinz wrote: »
    It's something I've been thinking a lot about lately and began wondering if others felt this way or if there was anyway to be less uncomfortable about things like the below.

    -> I won't watch television programs if they're british based. Which might be fine if it was out of loyalty to Ireland or not enjoying foreign culture based things expect 90% of what I watch is american programming.

    -> I don't like people who use british based phrases like "yummy mummy" "mum" "boxing day" yet people who use american phrases are no problem, and will point out what they're doing to make them feel awkward and bad.

    -> I don't like people who follow british soaps and not fair city, X-Factor/Dancing on Ice but not all-ireland talent show or watch the english coverage of sporting events covered on Irish tv.

    -> I don't like people who study abroad in the UK

    -> I despise anyone who emigrates to the UK but can sympathise with someone who emigrates to Australia/America or somewhere else.

    -> I don't like people who follow the english national team in any sport with any level of higher interest than any other country. e.g. Sports news reporting Irelands results and afterwards England, Scotland, Wales, NI's results while ignoring Spain and Frances games.


    To summarise it I have nothing against the English but I really don't like how their culture is jammed down my throat in this country and seemingly an awful lot of people like to get in on it, and those people really grate with me.

    I think its ok to dislike a culture but theres probably a more healthy way to do this than scowl or complain at anybody who shows the slightest interest in it. Any wannabe interest psychologists with comments on this behaviour? :pac:

    Trying hard not to be rude here OP but basically, you're a bigot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Norma_Desmond


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Cause they like their toast done on one side, the posh feckers.

    that just reminded me of this song...... "I don't drink coffe I take tea my dear, I like my toast done on one side"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    I believe a bigot is someone who is intolerant of people of differing culture to them are they not? I'm only intolerant of one particular culture, I embrace all the other ones. :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,052 ✭✭✭Wossack


    in my expert medical opinion, you're a crazy in the coconut


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    Wannabe ! . Would that be Geilge for "want to be" or would it be a word I first heard used by brits on British television ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    God Save The Queen !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    Downlinz wrote: »
    I believe a bigot is someone who is intolerant of people of differing culture to them are they not? I'm only intolerant of one particular culture, I embrace all the other ones. :D

    That still makes you a bigot.

    You hate their tv, sport, culture, people who talk like them, people who move over there, etc.

    Actually, I fail to see how you can say that you have nothing against the English when you seem to dislike everything about them.

    I am surprised you didn't start the post with " I am not a bigot but..."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Downlinz wrote: »
    To summarise it I have nothing against the English

    The rest of your post would seem to suggest otherwise.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Downlinz - knave or fool?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,081 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Downlinz wrote: »


    To summarise it I have nothing against the English but I really don't like how their culture is jammed down my throat

    Well judging by the rest of your post, nothing is being forced down your throat. You're free to have no interest in any of the things you mentioned and free to refrain from indulging in any of it.


  • Site Banned Posts: 124 ✭✭The Queen of England


    hondasam wrote: »
    God Save The Queen !

    Bless you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    I have all those little peeves you have OP, although you didn't mention the one that has been getting my goat mostly lately.

    Which is: use of the term "mate" by Irish people.

    I can't stand to be called mate, I don't remember it being commonly used here before the last few years but lately I seem to hear it more and more. I even can't stand to overhear someone else saying it. It just seems wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    I mate regularly. Highly recommended.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Why you speaky engleesh than so??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    OCD an issue OP?

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70934023
    Why are Dublin people so insecure about where they live?
    It's a bizarre thing and only something thats maybe become really apparent in the last 10 years with so much social media and forums like this.

    But my impression is Dubliners seem to really have a chip on their shoulder when it comes to anyone from any of the other 31 counties.

    - They seem to dislike the national games because they're played more successfully elsewhere.

    - Seem to have a genuine dislike of customs, accents and locations everywhere else in the country. I remember one Dublin guy on that TV3 show take me out saying he was hoping for a Dublin girl as he "dislikes the culchie accent". I was unaware all 31 counties and 5 million people shared the same dialect.

    - Seem to dislike Irish made programs that aren't made in Dublin or programs in the Irish language, generally it seems to be more acceptable to watch British programming there than say something rural based like Kilnaskully.



    I find it quite sad that a lot of people there don't seem to be able to have pride in their city or county and have to snipe through arrogance and igorance at everyone else hiding their own insecurities about where they live, not even at particular areas. Dublin people tend to regard the country as two zones "Dublin" and "the country" which is quite funny, I don't know anywhere else or any other country which would have people so narrow minded as that.
    The fact that dublin has the highest emmigration rate in the country is probably testament to how much love its people has for it.

    There's a lot of awesome things about Dublin IMO, it isn't warranted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,896 ✭✭✭✭Spook_ie


    Sounds like yer a racist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    I have all those little peeves you have OP, although you didn't mention the one that has been getting my goat mostly lately.

    Which is: use of the term "mate" by Irish people.

    I can't stand to be called mate, I don't remember it being commonly used here before the last few years but lately I seem to hear it more and more. I even can't stand to overhear someone else saying it. It just seems wrong.


    But every time we use English we are using language inherited from Britain. Language is dynamic and always going to change to absorb colloquialisms especially when we have umpteen British channels etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    OP, you've been brainwashed by pub talk and Irish history lessons. You want to know something about English history?

    Cromwell had cushion fights in Parliament.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    wilson10 wrote: »
    Wannabe ! . Would that be Geilge for "want to be" or would it be a word I first heard used by brits on British television ?

    It's originally American. So the OP can keep his bigotry intact :D

    http://www.answers.com/topic/wannabee


  • Site Banned Posts: 124 ✭✭The Queen of England


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    I have all those little peeves you have OP, although you didn't mention the one that has been getting my goat mostly lately.

    Which is: use of the term "mate" by Irish people.

    I can't stand to be called mate, I don't remember it being commonly used here before the last few years but lately I seem to hear it more and more. I even can't stand to overhear someone else saying it. It just seems wrong.

    Nobody uses "mate" anymore. These days, you head out with your "Gareth Gates" & go down the pab for a "gay & frisky".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Just do what I do and embrace what you like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    Because they are better endowed than the Irish. Fact. You are simply projecting thsi anxiety onto their culture. ;)

    Not really fact but, I was looking at a world map of average penis sizes recently and their average size is greater than the Irish average by .5inches.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    I have all those little peeves you have OP, although you didn't mention the one that has been getting my goat mostly lately.

    Which is: use of the term "mate" by Irish people.

    I can't stand to be called mate, I don't remember it being commonly used here before the last few years but lately I seem to hear it more and more. I even can't stand to overhear someone else saying it. It just seems wrong.

    I suppose you walk around all day calling people "mo chara?"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Nobody uses "mate" anymore. These days, you head out with your "Gareth Gates" & go down the pab for a "gay & frisky".

    Whatever else you don't do today, do not google image gay & frisky! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,078 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    It's something I've been thinking a lot about lately and began wondering if others felt this way or if there was anyway to be less uncomfortable about things like the below.

    -> I won't watch television programs if they're british based. Which might be fine if it was out of loyalty to Ireland or not enjoying foreign culture based things expect 90% of what I watch is american programming.

    So whats your point? Whats the difference between watching american or British tv? They are all foreign based and most programmes on Irish TV come from either america or Britain.

    -> I don't like people who use british based phrases like "yummy mummy" "mum" "boxing day" yet people who use american phrases are no problem, and will point out what they're doing to make them feel awkward and bad.

    I dont even know where to start with this one

    -> I don't like people who follow british soaps and not fair city, X-Factor/Dancing on Ice but not all-ireland talent show or watch the english coverage of sporting events covered on Irish tv.

    Fair city is **** by anyones standards
    . Not a fan of any soaps but i'll think you will find that some contain Irish actors. Do you hate them as well?

    -> I don't like people who study abroad in the UK

    The cheek of them. huh trying to gain an education in an area that interests them. We better kick out all foreign nationals that study in Irish universities :rolleyes:

    -> I despise anyone who emigrates to the UK but can sympathise with someone who emigrates to Australia/America or somewhere else.

    I'll think you will find the Queen is also the head of state in Australia. Imagine somebody going to the UK to work and yet being close enough to their families to visit often. Shocking stuff!

    -> I don't like people who follow the english national team in any sport with any level of higher interest than any other country. e.g. Sports news reporting Irelands results and afterwards England, Scotland, Wales, NI's results while ignoring Spain and Frances games.

    Most our players play in the UK so ya people have an interest. Doubt you will find many supporting the english football team though.

    To summarise it I have nothing against the English but I really don't like how their culture is jammed down my throat in this country and seemingly an awful lot of people like to get in on it, and those people really grate with me.

    The american D4 culture is ok with you then is it?

    I think its ok to dislike a culture but theres probably a more healthy way to do this than scowl or complain at anybody who shows the slightest interest in it. Any wannabe interest psychologists with comments on this behaviour? :pac:

    Ya you need to get out more


    Question is how do you watch american tv do you have a sky subscription. Do you avoid all UK products and avoid Irish companies that export to the uk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭wilson10


    professore wrote: »
    It's originally American. So the OP can keep his bigotry intact :D

    http://www.answers.com/topic/wannabee

    OP obviously looked it up before he used it then, eh, mate.

    He must ave a busy ole time then, lookin up words, eh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    I bet the OP also despises gays as well.

    It's called denial.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    mike65 wrote: »
    Whatever else you don't do today, do not google image gay & frisky! :pac:

    Good god, my mother's sitting beside me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭TanG411


    mike65 wrote: »
    Whatever else you don't do today, do not google image gay & frisky! :pac:

    Why not? I got a picture of Adam Boulton.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    diddlybit wrote: »
    Because they are better endowed than the Irish. Fact. You are simply projecting thsi anxiety onto their culture. ;)

    Not really fact but, I was looking at a world map of average penis sizes recently and their average size is greater than the Irish average by .5inches.
    the average Irishman must have a huge penis then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    I suppose you walk around all day calling people "mo chara?"

    No I would just usually say "How's it going?"

    Rather than "How's it going, mate?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 520 ✭✭✭dpe


    Downlinz wrote: »
    I believe a bigot is someone who is intolerant of people of differing culture to them are they not? I'm only intolerant of one particular culture, I embrace all the other ones. :D

    No. Just because its only one culture, doesn't make a difference. You're a bigot. And what's worse is you're a bigot about really banal stuff. I can actually understand, if not condone, some of the foaming-at-the-mouth "32 counties, 800 years of oppression, blah, blah, blah" brands of anti-English sentiment, but your complaints seem to be soap operas and accents. Seriously?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 644 ✭✭✭filthymcnasty


    Downlinz wrote: »
    I


    -> I despise anyone who emigrates to the UK but can sympathise with someone who emigrates to Australia/America or somewhere else.



    this one in particular makes no sense to me :confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭diddlybit


    the average Irishman must have a huge penis then.

    Off topic, but five inches apparently. :confused: Haven't conducted my own study.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Downlinz wrote: »
    Any wannabe interest psychologists with comments on this behaviour? :pac:
    Your entire post is written in the Queens English.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 Paolo1982


    Eh maybe you should figure out the difference between 'British' and 'English' You just ranted about how u pretty much hate everything British, but then say you have nothing against the English?? so what is it British or English?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    You're a weirdo and theres something wrong with you. I'd politely suggest that you speak only Irish and get help.

    Or allow me to point out great things about Britain.

    Punk
    Ewan McColl
    Blackadder
    The lake district
    The yorkshire dales
    Scotland, wales
    Real ale
    Going on a pub crawl and actually being able to have a different beer in each pub
    Stan Laurel
    Rights for ramblers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    reprazant wrote: »
    That still makes you a bigot.

    You hate their tv, sport, culture, people who talk like them, people who move over there, etc.

    Actually, I fail to see how you can say that you have nothing against the English when you seem to dislike everything about them.

    I am surprised you didn't start the post with " I am not a bigot but..."

    To clarify I have a problem with Irish people integrating themselves into British culture. I've been in England and the people are lovely and have no problem whatsoever what they're into. It's their culture and I respect it for what it is.

    Their brand of entertainment, comedy, music and tabloid culture isn't to my personal taste but then neither is eating sushi but I don't think disliking that personally is a slight on the japanese.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭tonysea


    The RIRA will be in touch, you tick all there boxes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    tonysea wrote: »
    The RIRA will be in touch, you tick all there boxes.

    Yup,the OP sounds like a great dancer all right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    I have all those little peeves you have OP, although you didn't mention the one that has been getting my goat mostly lately.

    Which is: use of the term "mate" by Irish people.

    I can't stand to be called mate, I don't remember it being commonly used here before the last few years but lately I seem to hear it more and more. I even can't stand to overhear someone else saying it. It just seems wrong.

    This guy gets me! :)

    I'm 100% the same. I hate being called mate or referred to as a "bloke".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,029 ✭✭✭optogirl


    Downlinz wrote: »
    To clarify I have a problem with Irish people integrating themselves into British culture. I've been in England and the people are lovely and have no problem whatsoever what they're into. It's their culture and I respect it for what it is.

    Their brand of entertainment, comedy, music and tabloid culture isn't to my personal taste but then neither is eating sushi but I don't think disliking that personally is a slight on the japanese.


    So basically you have a problem with people for not having a big chip on their shoulders. You 'despise' Irish people who live in Britain, watch British sport etc. That's just idiotic. Insecure isn't the word, racist is. If you changed your original post and replaced British with black, what would that make you?
    'I have nothing against Africans, I just don't want to see or hear them on TV and no Irish person should live there'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 644 ✭✭✭filthymcnasty


    Downlinz wrote: »
    This guy gets me! :)

    I'm 100% the same. I hate being called mate or referred to as a "bloke".

    probably doesn't happen too much in fairness


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭Downlinz





    Question is how do you watch american tv do you have a sky subscription. Do you avoid all UK products and avoid Irish companies that export to the uk

    Rapidshare -> Media Centre -> HD TV -> ??? -> Profit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    You're a weirdo and theres something wrong with you. I'd politely suggest that you speak only Irish and get help.

    Or allow me to point out great things about Britain.

    Punk

    Thats American really, they just didn't know how to use to annoy the mainstream very well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    I bet the OP also despises gays as well.

    It's called denial.

    What, so he's really English??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,751 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    You're a weirdo and theres something wrong with you. I'd politely suggest that you speak only Irish and get help.

    Or allow me to point out great things about Britain.

    Going on a pub crawl and actually being able to have a different beer in each pub

    +1:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭AskMyChocolate


    diddlybit wrote: »
    Off topic, but five inches apparently. :confused: Haven't conducted my own study.

    WooHoo!

    WINNING


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