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Would you emigrate?

  • 01-04-2011 11:11am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    Okay I know hundreds of people are emigrating it's like the wildebeest in the serengeti things are that bad, but in all fairness would you emigrate if you had a good paying full time job which you don't like but it is a permanent position, no mortgage no loans no kids.
    Would your job alone stop you from leaving to see what's out there? Just curious as I happen to have a great job but dislike it and am considering my options.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Nah, never really had any intentions of emigrating myself. Known plenty of people who have, some have landed on their feet while others just end up coming back with debts.

    Anywho, a good Guinness and pack of Tayto make it all worthwile :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,397 ✭✭✭✭azezil


    What, no poll!?

    Fail ¬_¬


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    Nah, never really had any intentions of emigrating myself. Known plenty of people who have, some have landed on their feet while others just end up coming back with debts.

    Anywho, a good Guinness and pack of Tayto make it all worthwile :pac:

    Ya I would miss tayto love them:) I know things aren't terrible but taxation and the likes will get worse. I guess some people jut emigrate for the fun while others are genuinely going to improve their lives


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    purity wrote: »
    Okay I know hundreds of people are emigrating it's like the wildebeest in the serengeti things are that bad...

    Where's the statisical evidence of this? Aren't the DAA reporting falling passenger numbers out of the country?

    The gap year-long piss-ups of the Celtic Tiger have now turned into "I'm leaving Ireland because there's no jobs for grads. Time to go work in a pub in Australia!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Pure Sound


    I definately would, happiness is far more important then wealth, if you are unhappy in your work you are probably unhappy in life. If you were to have nothing holding you here why would you stay?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    purity wrote: »
    Okay I know hundreds of people are emigrating it's like the wildebeest in the serengeti things are that bad, but in all fairness would you emigrate if you had a good paying full time job which you don't like but it is a permanent position, no mortgage no loans no kids.
    Would your job alone stop you from leaving to see what's out there? Just curious as I happen to have a great job but dislike it and am considering my options.

    Why don't you take a leave of absence, ya jellyhead?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    Where's the statisical evidence of this? Aren't the DAA reporting falling passenger numbers out of the country?

    The gap year-long piss-ups of the Celtic Tiger have now turned into "I'm leaving Ireland because there's no jobs for grads. Time to go work in a pub in Australia!"

    While in my old school year 80 out of 120 left for Austrailia don't like Austrailia myself, And yeah you have a point the emigrate to work in pubs and the likes I however have a great job and was just wondering


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Hasmunch


    purity wrote: »
    Okay I know hundreds of people are emigrating it's like the wildebeest in the serengeti things are that bad, but in all fairness would you emigrate if you had a good paying full time job which you don't like but it is a permanent position, no mortgage no loans no kids.
    Would your job alone stop you from leaving to see what's out there? Just curious as I happen to have a great job but dislike it and am considering my options.

    Permanent Job in Ireland: Check
    No mortgage: Check
    No Loans: Check
    No Kids: Check

    Current location: Melbourne
    Regrets: None


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    Why don't you take a leave of absence, ya jellyhead?

    HSE? not a good idea right now lucky to even have my own job


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    I definately would, happiness is far more important then wealth, if you are unhappy in your work you are probably unhappy in life. If you were to have nothing holding you here why would you stay?

    My family and friends, I would ideally go to Canada as they have one of the best health care systems in the world and that's my current work practice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Good job
    partner with good job
    no mortgage
    no kids
    no real debts

    looking to get out of here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    If I had the money id be out of here in a flash. Theres's nothing for me to stay here for really


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 456 ✭✭Derfil


    If you've no ties here and aren't happy in your job go for it. Get outta here and do some traveling. Give it a few years . Who knows it could well be the best decision you ever made. Things in the long run look bleak here. Heard a great analogy on the radio "it's like we're stuck in a burning house and have no way to get out".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,246 ✭✭✭✭Riamfada


    Im Irish and this is my home and it is where I belong. My ancestors didnt murder and kill the natives to settle here so I could just piss off to Australia 300 years later and have kids with silly accents.

    God save the King!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,814 ✭✭✭TPD


    I'd save as long as I could stick at the job, then when I've a good amount or am approaching the edge of sanity, flee.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No way, Don't get the desire people have to leave their home country. Having spend a short time living abroad I couldnt wait to get back to Ireland. I would like to visit lots of places but on holiday not moving there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    No way, Don't get the desire people have to leave their home country. Having spend a short time living abroad I couldnt wait to get back to Ireland. I would like to visit lots of places but on holiday not moving there.

    Home is where you make it, not where you were born. You don't see a chicken loitering around an egg-shell his entire life do you?


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Home is where you make it, not where you were born. You don't see a chicken loitering around an egg-shell his entire life do you?

    Home is where you come from and where all your family and friends are imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 221 ✭✭anto2


    ^ Home is where you hang your hat .:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    I have a permanent job here, but I do plan on emigrating as I dont have any prospects for further advancement in my company.
    I dont understand the whole ethos of people who think that people should settle purely because of the economic climate, if you can do better, go out and do better!

    Edit: just to add, any move would be a temporary thing for a few years. Wouldn't want to spend the rest of my life somewhere else...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭endabob1


    Emigrated in 1995, lived all over the world, London, Melbourne, Cape Town was hoping to go home this year but not going to happen in the current climate; While I've loved living in different cities and have had a pretty exciting life for a once small town boy, people make the place and there's no place like home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    I have lived abroad for years including the Middle East. I left full time jobs here in Ireland to go away. Have been back here 5 years and have been working since I got back.

    Us Paddies have always emigrated - its nothing new and is definitely something I would recommend to my 2 children.

    As for the media etc telling us how many are leaving etc - well the census next week should give us a more accurate picture - providing people fill in their forms!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭fkiely


    Home is where you make it, not where you were born. You don't see a chicken loitering around an egg-shell his entire life do you?

    You don't see many people loitering around the hospital they were born in for their entire life either to be fair..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    No qualifications that would allow me to permantely move to the US/Canada/Oz,worked in London with my uncle before and absolutely hated the place,so thats not much of an option either.

    Could feck off for a year or so to Australia/US/Can but then I'd end up back here after a year with no job and no entitlements more depressed then when I left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭Ironman76


    Out of work a month. Looking at London at the moment as Ive family there. Absolutely hate this place.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    No way, Don't get the desire people have to leave their home country. Having spend a short time living abroad I couldnt wait to get back to Ireland. I would like to visit lots of places but on holiday not moving there.

    Do you not think thats a bit hypocritical? "Having spent a short time living abroad".

    What you mean is you got it out of your system and went home. A lot of the people who are thinking of leaving will do the same. I am abroad and will return home in 3-5 years. You saying No, to " would you emigrate", when you did already and came home is just wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,498 ✭✭✭Lu Tze


    purity wrote: »
    ... but in all fairness would you emigrate if you had a good paying full time job which you don't like but it is a permanent position, no mortgage no loans no kids.
    Would your job alone stop you from leaving to see what's out there? Just curious as I happen to have a great job but dislike it and am considering my options.

    This is what myself and the girlfriend did. In jobs before we left and worried about leaving them. What a weight lifted of my shoulders though! Didnt realise how stress and irritable it made me until i left.

    Much happier now - working on much higher capital value projects (in australia mainly and some internationally) but not finding it anywhere near as stressful. Would recommend it for anybody no longer enjoying their work. If you do enjoy it - why leave?

    That said ill be coming back at christmas after 1.5 years or so, the girlfriend leaving in september so i dont have much choice. Realistically though - due to the profession i am in - ill be off to the UK not long after returning to get work. Reality bites if you do have to return to ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭UsernameInUse


    endabob1 wrote: »
    Emigrated in 1995, lived all over the world, London, Melbourne, Cape Town was hoping to go home this year but not going to happen in the current climate; While I've loved living in different cities and have had a pretty exciting life for a once small town boy, people make the place and there's no place like home.

    Whats Cape Town like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    Dooooooo it! Theres more to life than Ireland, get outta here and experience living somewhere else, if it doesnt work out it doesnt work out...at least you gave it a shot and will have no regrets.

    Most of my friends are emigrating later this year to oz, therell be nothing keeping me here as it'll be very lonely, I cant wait to head off with them and experience it all with my closest buddies :)


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    syklops wrote: »
    Do you not think thats a bit hypocritical? "Having spent a short time living abroad".

    What you mean is you got it out of your system and went home. A lot of the people who are thinking of leaving will do the same. I am abroad and will return home in 3-5 years. You saying No, to " would you emigrate", when you did already and came home is just wrong.

    The way I look a it is that emigrating is basically permanently moving abroad where as I went away for less than a year. Its the whole thought of moving away and making somewhere else your home I don't like, I find it depressing the thought of leaving your home, family and friends behind.

    Living abroad didn't change my opinion as I knew I wouldn't like it before I went.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Absolutely wouldn't emigrate on a permanent basis. Ireland's not that bad, I'd even be so controversial as to say I really like this country and I'm looking forward to living out the rest of my life here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 themoocher


    I'll be emigrating once I finish college and get the money together. Won't be going for just a holiday either. Theres no real job prospects in my field of study here so I'll be looking at something kinda long term!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    purity wrote: »
    Okay I know hundreds of people are emigrating it's like the wildebeest in the serengeti things are that bad, but in all fairness would you emigrate if you had a good paying full time job which you don't like but it is a permanent position, no mortgage no loans no kids.
    Would your job alone stop you from leaving to see what's out there? Just curious as I happen to have a great job but dislike it and am considering my options.

    Not really.
    I left Germany about 8 years ago, when I lost my job there and unemployment was over 15%. I rather like my job, I don't honestly see my job disappearing anytime soon, and I'm quite settled here now. I don't see any reason to up and leave again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    if at all possible i wont emigrate, like it here, everywhere has its faults, we are in tough times but everything is cyclical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,900 ✭✭✭InTheTrees


    I've been in the usa over 20 years...

    I was starting to think about coming back a few years ago.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭endabob1


    Whats Cape Town like?

    A whole lot more expensive than it used to be but still a fabulous place to live. Stunning beaches, great restaurants, good weather (by Irish standards, great weather), great places to go and see, winelands, National Parks, Mountain ranges, wildlife all on your doorstep.
    It has it's down sides
    Crime, although you can insulate yourself from that to a large degree.
    Being so insulated from the darker side of life in Cape Town that you forget what a priviledged life you lead compared to the majority of the population.
    Employment - Probably even harder to get good well paying work here than it is at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 263 ✭✭marxcoo


    I've lived abroad before and probably will have to again but I don't think I'd do it on a permanent basis. I discovered I'm more of a homebird than I thought I was and although I love travelling nothing beats the familiarity if home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 875 ✭✭✭triseke


    if i cant get a job when i graduate, then yes, I will have to.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    Part of me would love to work somewhere like Canada or the US when I finish college. It's just the family and friends aspect that would be the hardest to overcome.

    Definitely plan on giving it a shot at some point in my life while I'm still young. Would hate to completely settle here in Ireland and not say that I at least experienced it.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Elisha Moldy Pail


    I like my job and I'd need to stick somewhere the institute has exam centres until I qualify
    Life's too short to stay somewhere you are miserable. Give it a while to save up some more then head off?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I'll be leaving at the end of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Marcus_Crassus


    I would love to emigrate and I shall do so within the next year and a half if all goes to plan.

    I will not speak ill of Ireland though. It's safe, good craic and, honestly, most of the people are sound! However, I need a change and love the idea of experiencing somewhere else. Sure if it all goes tits up I can come running back, can't I? :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭coffeelover


    Hopefully will leave in a couple of years after college.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Break all ties


    Already long gone. Nothing left in the cesspit that is Ireland for me. You can keep your potatos and imbred hicks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    Already long gone. Nothing left in the cesspit that is Ireland for me. You can keep your potatos and imbred hicks.
    Harsh much :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    Already long gone. Nothing left in the cesspit that is Ireland for me. You can keep your potatos and imbred hicks.

    No need to be so racial, Ireland isn't that bad actually could be far worse I guess your not Irish because of your childish response. I am happy here only for the fact that the taxes are high as is the cost of living.
    As for inbred hicks most countries have varied people if anything culturally Ireland is very good and keeps it's tradition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    Living in Ireland nearly 10yrs now, love this country so much...

    I will emigrate; but not because there aren't jobs in my sector... It'd be nice to see the world and i'm young (ish) :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Break all ties


    purity wrote: »
    No need to be so racial, Ireland isn't that bad actually could be far worse I guess your not Irish because of your childish response. I am happy here only for the fact that the taxes are high as is the cost of living.
    As for inbred hicks most countries have varied people if anything culturally Ireland is very good and keeps it's tradition
    I was Irish. I am now a Bulgarian citizen. I have sent my letter of alienage to the Irish government telling them where to stick their passport.

    I would not live in a state where complete gob****es are running the place and corruption regins supreme.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 140 ✭✭Marcus_Crassus


    Ah, sure we all know how Bulgaria is thriving constantly and has absolutely no corruption...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 369 ✭✭Daisy!


    I guess I'm lucky that I have a job as does my partner. Most of all though I couldn't leave my family. And I genuinely do love Ireland despite all the crap that goes on here. We have a great little country. Not sure how many here would agree with me about that but I love it and am happy to spend the rest of my life here.


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