Is this car possibly clocked?

VolvoMan

This car was for sale very recently with 190k on it and I am one hundred per cent certain it is the same one: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S80/S80-DIES/201113201822437/advert?channel=CARS

Bloody disgraceful.:mad:

Absurdum

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S80/DIESEL-A/201111201635244/advert?channel=CARS

!!!

questionmark?

Any proof? i.e. previous ad advertising it so we can see does it have the same plates?!!

EDIT: after seeing second post now got there while I was typing mine

colm_mcm

Bodywork looks suspect too.

Absurdum

screengrabs





reg is clearly the same when you enlarge the pics on carzone

forwarding to www.nca.ie , you don't advertise as "low mileage" when there's 300,000 km on it!!! be interesting to see the "new NCT" on it

Seth Brundle

Car reg in case any buyer happens to google it: 05-D-73476

Reloc8

jaysus.

Lock 'em up.

Absurdum

no difference with these two:

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/RX300/AUTO-NCT/201112201731997/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/RX300/FULL-LEA/201106201173349/advert?channel=CARS

Tragedy

So Field's Motor Group of Naas (phone number 087 1635633) are selling what appears to be a heavily clocked car?

Just thought google might like to know

Standard Toaster

Any point in emailing them on sales@fieldsmotorgroup.com ?

This is disgraceful.

Will drop query@nca.ie an email now too. Fookin bandits :mad:

andyseadog

lads, i know this too should be declared, but, just from reading both adverts...

when the car had 186k, it was a 2.0 diesel

now with 75k its a 2.4 diesel.

now i don't know my volvos and/ or if they come in a 2.4 diesel or not, but declared engine swaps are legitimate are they not?

would like to see this motorchecked to see what the story is/

R.O.R

andyseadog wrote: »

lads, i know this too should be declared, but, just from reading both adverts...

when the car had 186k, it was a 2.0 diesel

now with 75k its a 2.4 diesel.

now i don't know my volvos and/ or if they come in a 2.4 diesel or not, but declared engine swaps are legitimate are they not?

would like to see this motorchecked to see what the story is/

There was never a 2.0d in that shape S80 - just wrong info on that advert.

thenightrider

R.O.R wrote: »

There was never a 2.0d in that shape S80 - just wrong info on that advert.

Who is to say they did not get the millage wrong in the advert as well ?

Lord Nikon

If I was in Dublin today, I would drive over for a look.

Reloc8

Absurdum wrote: »

no difference with these two:

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/RX300/AUTO-NCT/201112201731997/advert?channel=CARS

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Lexus/RX300/FULL-LEA/201106201173349/advert?channel=CARS

Looks ok - advert corrected since you posted or am I missing something ?

edwinkane

VolvoMan wrote: »

This car was for sale very recently with 190k on it and I am one hundred per cent certain it is the same one: http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S80/S80-DIES/201113201822437/advert?channel=CARS

Bloody disgraceful.:mad:

Have you reported this to the Police with your evidence? if not, why not?

EPM

Could it be confusing ~190k miles and kms?

If someone could have a spin over...

MacGyver

Should places like carzone take records of milage and reg number of each sale and at least make sure the new ad has at least the same if not more milage then the last time it was posted. The reg doesnt need to be shown in the ad as some people dont like to display them but it may do away with clocked cars being advertised.??

unkel

Tragedy wrote: »

Just thought google might like to know

Google "Field's Motor Group clocking" and this thread comes up as the very first search result :cool:

mondeo

Haha i was there a few weeks back looking at a 318i for my other half, glad i didnt buy it after reading this. <snip stupid comment>

C4Kid

The state of the seats especially and interior look like it's seen alot of miles.

biko

Welcome to another episode of "Boards Motors Forum Investigates".
Man I love the internet

Weird though, they seem to be owned by the same crowd, or at least are trading partners, you'd think if they were clocking cars they would remove the old adds.

cadaliac

I know you all want them closed but there is a bigger picture here. One person is responsible for this scam. More than likely not everyone in the garages' employment knew anything of this.
Would you not think it better to find the individual responsible rather than closing the garage?
Or am I wrong?

edwinkane

cadaliac wrote: »

I know you all want them closed but there is a bigger picture here. One person is responsible for this scam. More than likely not everyone in the garages' employment knew anything of this.
Would you not think it better to find the individual responsible rather than closing the garage?
Or am I wrong?

How do you intend to do that? Surely its a job for the Police?

cadaliac

LIGHTNING wrote: »

But then you can get to the situation where they just name a scapegoat so the garage can get away scott free.

True, it gets too messy alright.

vetstu

edwinkane wrote: »

Have you reported this to the Police with your evidence? if not, why not?

Because the police are only bothered with what goes on in England. Its the guards you talk to here.

Absurdum

Great news, I have to actually buy the car before the NCA can investigate this!

Thank you for contacting the National Consumer Agency (NCA) with your query regarding a possible car clocking issue. We appreciate the effort you have made to bring this issue to our attention.



It is an offence and against the law to clock a vehicle and mislead consumers as to the usage or prior history on a vehicle.

However in order for us to carry out an investigation under the Consumer Protection Act, 2007, we would need to obtain proof. This is done by examining the car and the documentation. As you did not purchase the car it is not possible in this case to proceed with an investigation, however we will hold the information on file.

If you have any further consumer related queries please do not hesitate to contact us on 1890 432 432.



Yours sincerely,



Jade Kinsella

National Consumer Agency

Reloc8

Fire a report into the gardai as well.

cadaliac

Absurdum wrote: »

Great news, I have to actually buy the car before the NCA can investigate this!

Jesus, that really is a disgrace. They will take the car off you on the side of the road for a traffic offence or no tax but when you point out something clearly illegal being preformed, they won't even investigate.
What good is it on file?
Unfortunately it is very typical of whats wrong in this country.

TestTransmission

cadaliac wrote: »

Jesus, that really is a disgrace. They will take the car off you on the side of the road for a traffic offence or no tax

The National Consumer Agency (NCA) will? :pac::pac::pac::pac:

dharn

in keeping with your username that is ABSURD !! WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY IT SEEMS TO BE AN OPEN AND SHUT CASE and yet they will sit on their hands and do nothing

unkel

The NCA are a bunch of lame clowns. The last time they caught a clocker red handed they told him he was a bold boy and not to do it again :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

And the offence is civil, not criminal, so the Gardai aren't interested either. It's up to us to investigate, come up with the proof and name and shame.

Collibosher

Fields Motors advert has been edited, now reads zero mileage :rolleyes:

unkel

Collibosher wrote: »

Fields Motors advert has been edited, now reads zero mileage :rolleyes:

They must read here

Google doesn't forget though :cool:

VolvoMan

EPM wrote: »

Could it be confusing ~190k miles and kms?

The fact that they are now advertising it as 'low mileage' means that is definitely not the case.

It makes my blood boil how these crooks on the Naas Road operate.

-Chris-

Can someone get in to the garage and verify the mileage reading before we get out the torches and pitchforks please?
I'd hate to see someone's reputation/business ruined because of a typo on an ad.

Collibosher

Motor City Naas Road advert showing 186k mileage has now been removed.

-Chris-

-Chris- wrote: »

Can someone get in to the garage and verify the mileage reading before we get out the torches and pitchforks please?
I'd hate to see someone's reputation/business ruined because of a typo on an ad.

... and if someone also did a mileage check, that coupled with a glance at the speedo would clarify (perhaps) alot.

mondeo

Why would motor city remove their ad? To protect the other guys?

mondeo

mondeo wrote: »

Why would motor city remove their add? To protect the other guys?

Well if they are the same company it would make sense. If they are not the same company they no longer have the car for sale

mullingar

I might be in that area tomorrow, so I'll have a look :D

Our man in Havana

What's the betting the car won't be there?

mullingar

...or hidden.

The car is still advertised linky but with LOW MILEAGE

From their website they kindly give their gps location:

linky to google maps but it shows the previous business name, Nolan Motor Company!!

and thats the side of the Naas road I'll be on

unkel

RoverJames wrote: »

... and if someone also did a mileage check

+1

There used to be someone on here with unlimited access to cartell or one of those Irish equivalent HPI check sites. Could anyone please run one and post it here. Just to ease Chris' mind

R.O.R

unkel wrote: »

+1

There used to be someone on here with unlimited access to cartell or one of those Irish equivalent HPI check sites. Could anyone please run one and post it here. Just to ease Chris' mind

Wonder if Motorcheck is around?

Motorcheck

Report on the way chaps

Motorcheck

Here ya go - http://twitpic.com/4froex/full - No surprises here!

mullingar

Thanks for that!

So, a confirmed minimum mileage of 195k miles (313kkm)

Also, NCT is overdue since Sept 2009!

andyseadog

the plot thickens :pac:

R.O.R

Motorcheck wrote: »

Report on the way chaps

Do you get an alert when someone types Motorcheck?

If we need you, just mention Motorcheck on a thread and you'll appear? A bit like: