Policeman schooled

Sykk

Genius

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bz7JE60T7ls

Duggy747

That coppa knew he was fecked and it went all very Brasseye towards the end

donvito99

sounded like he was just being a prickish/nob tbh

Wolfe Tone

lol! That gave me a good laugh, but in Ireland anyway the police dont need to know the exact wording

Iwasfrozen

What a horrible person he knew he was in the wrong when he ran a red light, any normal human being would have just taken the ticket. Policemen can't be expected to learn off every single law ffs!

Jagle

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

What a horrible person he knew he was in the wrong when he ran a red light, any normal human being would have just taken the ticket. Policemen can't be expected to learn off every single law ffs!

oh god

TangyZizzle

Sounds like a right bellend.

CrackisWhack

The guy seemed like an arsehole tbh, but the policeman should know the law, and shouldnt have went for his camera.

Canis Lupus

Dude was an arse and if he broke the light then he should have gotten the fine.

chillywilly

Both were wrong

RichieC

Hate these idiots.. there's one on you-tube of these Ayn Rand fanatics driving through police stops just so he can pull off this self important nonsense for the camera.. arseholes.

mikemac

Knew this had to be a law student :rolleyes:

A policeman does not carry around the textbook definition of every law, that is what books are for.

What a knob

Wolfe Tone

feelingstressed wrote: »

Knew this had to be a law student :rolleyes:

A policeman does not carry around the textbook definition of every law, that is what books are for.

What a knob

The voice sounds familiar, I think he is one of those "freeman" people

RichieC

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

The voice sounds familiar, I think he is one of those "freeman" people

yea likely... gobsh*tes.

why is my name in capital letters!!

kirving

I absolutely hate pompous gob****es like that. He'll learn his lesson the hard way though when he eventually gets taken out of it by a truck after going through a red light.

Paparazzo

The end of it reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvwnwBbX70k#t=0m50s

bluto63

Anyone here would do what he did if they could. I'm a cyclist, and I'm not sure in Dublin but at least here in London the lights are ridiculous. All traffic stops flowing for pedestrians and most of the time, there's never anyone crossing. It infuriates me. So I can relate to this guy. It's a victimless crime, he didn't harm anyone, nothing would have come of it.

Paparazzo

bluto63 wrote: »

Anyone here would do what he did if they could. I'm a cyclist, and I'm not sure in Dublin but at least here in London the lights are ridiculous. All traffic stops flowing for pedestrians and most of the time, there's never anyone crossing. It infuriates me. So I can relate to this guy. It's a victimless crime, he didn't harm anyone, nothing would have come of it.

How do you know it was a pedestrian crossing he went through? Could have easily been a cross roads.

ch750536

Equally how do we know he did go through a red light, everyone is assuming he is guilty until proven innocent.

Bassboxxx

It's slightly disturbing the abuse someone gets for questioning authority, especially living in this country.

bluto63

Paparazzo wrote: »

How do you know it was a pedestrian crossing he went through? Could have easily been a cross roads.

We don't, but since everyone else is already assuming he did something I thought I'd join in.
Also, I'm sure he knew what he was doing rather than cycling blindly into the crossing.

upandcumming

That guy is a complete shithead. I hope he gets mauled by a car.

a-k-47

plenty of gardai here . cop started off smug didnt finish to nicely for him. wp

opti76

i love how he hasnt posted the footage of him getting away on his bicycle .. but simply typed it instead ...and were expected to believe it.

awesome

youcrazyjesus!

Fair play to the cyclist imo. He might be a knobhead but he's a knobhead who defended himself perfectly legally against someone who seemingly didn't have a clue. The grab of the camera was bizarre considering the previous 2/3 minutes.

Little guy on a bicycle 1, heavy handed state official 0.

davetherave

bluto63 wrote: »

Anyone here would do what he did if they could. I'm a cyclist, and I'm not sure in Dublin but at least here in London the lights are ridiculous. All traffic stops flowing for pedestrians and most of the time, there's never anyone crossing. It infuriates me. So I can relate to this guy. It's a victimless crime, he didn't harm anyone, nothing would have come of it.

So he should just be allowed to break the law whenever he feels like it then?
Can you quote me the exact wording of the act to back up that statement?

Korvanica

That guy is a prick... hope something big hits him next time he goes through a red light...

ch750536

1. The guy didn't break the law, he was accused of breaking the law.
2. The officer lies to him numerous times, he never lies to officer.
3. The smug one (in the beginning) is the officer, not the accused.
4. The officer illegally & forcefully tried to obtain the camera.

However, we are in Ireland so I'd better join in with the usual 'how dare someone question authority, they are wrong, I want them dead' that I see every single day.

My name is URL

heh.. he was on his way to pick his child up from school. I doubt he'd be so obnoxiously pompous if he ran a red light and got knocked down with his kid on the bike with him.

Paparazzo

ch750536 wrote: »

1. The guy didn't break the law, he was accused of breaking the law.
2. The officer lies to him numerous times, he never lies to officer.
3. The smug one (in the beginning) is the officer, not the accused.
4. The officer illegally & forcefully tried to obtain the camera.

However, we are in Ireland so I'd better join in with the usual 'how dare someone question authority, they are wrong, I want them dead' that I see every single day.

What's being from Ireland got to do with it? They both come across as knobs imho. And just because someone questions the law, doesn't automatically a hero. Plenty of Irish look for loopholes in the law too.
Strange that the cyclist didn't put up the video of himself breaking the light, or getting away.

Hookah

He is a freeman, as someone pointed out. He's got a load of vids online.

Fair play to him. Why should he be contributing to the money machine and lack of freedom created by statutory legislation?

Roll on the lawful rebellion.

My name is URL

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

The voice sounds familiar, I think he is one of those "freeman" people

Has anyone ever used that excuse (or whatever it is) in court?

Hookah

My name is URL wrote: »

Has anyone ever used that excuse (or whatever it is) in court?

There wasa guy in a recent conspiracy theories thread who claimed to have won 3 cases using the concept.

It seems to work for low level cases. Speeding fines, parking tickets, drug possession etc

The jury is out in my mind about a lot of the concepts, admiralty law etc.

On a bigger scale it hasn't really been tested, though two Scottish brothers, David and William Stirling, are trying to challenge the drug laws there.

If you look up a pdf called Blank of Ireland, people facing foreclosure are using the concept to try and deal with the banks.

thebullkf

Kevin Irving wrote: »

I absolutely hate pompous gob****es like that. He'll learn his lesson the hard way though when he eventually gets taken out of it by a truck after going through a red light.

+1000

upandcumming

youcrazyjesus! wrote: »

Little guy on a bicycle 1, heavy handed state official 0.

I'd say your arse is very jealous of your mouth.

Iwasfrozen

ch750536 wrote: »

1. The guy didn't break the law, he was accused of breaking the law.
2. The officer lies to him numerous times, he never lies to officer.
3. The smug one (in the beginning) is the officer, not the accused.
4. The officer illegally & forcefully tried to obtain the camera.

However, we are in Ireland so I'd better join in with the usual 'how dare someone question authority, they are wrong, I want them dead' that I see every single day.

1. He was seen running through a red light by a policeman.
2. How?
3. That prick radiates smugness "I won't be taking any paperwork today", I mean wtf?
4. And the guy illegally ran away from a policeman.

Whether you're in Ireland or any other country we don't need childish dickheads like this guy making the police's job any harder then it already is.

Orando Broom

a-k-47 wrote: »

plenty of gardai here . cop started off smug didnt finish to nicely for him. wp

That cop was trying on the hardman act big time there and got hoisted. You see it far too often in this country too. If they were more even handed and gave themselves time to establish what actually went down rather than the breathless stream of consciousness roaring and shouting down of the detainee they might find less of their collars thrown out of court.

I would imagine need to firstly establish whether an actual law was violated, how and why and then proceed to execute the caution. That cop wanted a quick statistical collar by over egging the gravity of the situation but rather than a stream of profuse apologies and the citizen putting himself in the prone position the cop found himself dominated and ultimately his actions proved that he was incapable of adequately dealing with the situation. His boss should have his balls.

That footage is essential viewing for any trainee officer of the law.

Hookah

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Whether you're in Ireland or any other country we don't need childish dickheads like this guy making the police's job any harder then it already is.

And his point is, is that it's a policeman's job to keep the peace, not enforce money making policy.

Since I can't comment on the red light the cyclist went through, I'll have to reserve judgement on whether it constituted a breach of the peace or not.

This guy posts a lot on youtube educating people on their rights, and I guess he took this opportunity to educate a little further.

Reg'stoy

Hookah wrote: »

And his point is, is that it's a policeman's job to keep the peace, not enforce money making policy.

Since I can't comment on the red light the cyclist went through, I'll have to reserve judgement on whether it constituted a breach of the peace or not.

This guy posts a lot on youtube educating people on their rights, and I guess he took this opportunity to educate a little further.

And what number would both you and he be dialing when you hear someone breaking in to your home or when you get mugged.

"did you steal that TV from this house sir"
"am I obliged to answer that Guard"
"is the TV yours sir"
"again Guard, am I obliged to answer that question"
"you're correct sir, may I hold the TV for you while you open your van"

Hookah

Reg'stoy wrote: »

And what number would both you and he be dialing when you hear someone breaking in to your home or when you get mugged.

"did you steal that TV from this house sir"
"am I obliged to answer that Guard"
"is the TV yours sir"
"again Guard, am I obliged to answer that question"
"you're correct sir, may I hold the TV for you while you open your van"

For a breach of the peace such as those, you'd be ringing the Guards.

bluto63

davetherave wrote: »

So he should just be allowed to break the law whenever he feels like it then?
Can you quote me the exact wording of the act to back up that statement?

:rolleyes:
I think the police should find better ways to spend his tbh

davetherave

ch750536 wrote: »

1. The guy didn't break the law, he was accused of breaking the law.
2. The officer lies to him numerous times, he never lies to officer.
3. The smug one (in the beginning) is the officer, not the accused.
4. The officer illegally & forcefully tried to obtain the camera.

However, we are in Ireland so I'd better join in with the usual 'how dare someone question authority, they are wrong, I want them dead' that I see every single day.

The guy did break the law...

The offence was breaking a red light. This is covered under section 36 of the Road Traffic Act.
The police officer in the video was attempting to issue a fine for said offence, in order to do so he must have the name and address of the person, in the form of some identification.
If the person refuses to offer these details, then the police officer canarrest the person without a warrant under section 24 Police and Criminal Evidence act until such time that the name and address of the person in question can be determined.

We only have that gob****es word that the officer attempted to take the camera off of him. Have you considered that the officer may have been attempting to place him under arrest?

davetherave

bluto63 wrote: »

:rolleyes:
I think the police should find better ways to spend his tbh

Good comeback. So you do think cyclists should be allowed to break all the red lights that they please?

Should every policeman in England be sitting in the the station waiting to a mass murderer to appear or should they be out policing the streets?

bluto63

davetherave wrote: »

Good comeback. So you do think cyclists should be allowed to break all the red lights that they please?

Should every policeman in England be sitting in the the station waiting to a mass murderer to appear or should they be out policing the streets?

I think that if a cyclist wants to run the risk, then yes go ahead. In the end, he's the only one who'll suffer so let him do it.
And sitting in the station is not the only alternative to wasting peoples time giving tickets so stop trying to make it seem like it is.

cursai

I hope these same anti establishment posters dont ring the guards when they have a prob. Cant have it both ways. The law is there to protect. There is no existing law that is intentionally there to abuse people.t

bluto63

The law is there to protect people from harm. That doesn't apply here.

cursai

bluto63 wrote: »

I think that if a cyclist wants to run the risk, then yes go ahead. In the end, he's the only one who'll suffer so let him do it.
And sitting in the station is not the only alternative to wasting peoples time giving tickets so stop trying to make it seem like it is.

What about the poor sod who knocks him over?
I 4 people at a crossroad continuosly take a chance odds are theyll eventually all hit someone

bluto63

Not with a little awareness. Just look at what you're doing. If you can't do that, get off the bike.

cursai

bluto63 wrote: »

The law is there to protect people from harm. That doesn't apply here.

Tell me your taking the mick and/or under 16yrs old.

bluto63

Why? I don't see how he's harmed anybody. Again it comes back to that we don't know what he's done. If he just bombed it down the road and flew into the lights, then yea, the guy's retarded. But I doubt that's what happened. I'd say he looked both ways and made the decision it was safe to cycle. No problems arose.

cruizer101

bluto63 wrote: »

I think that if a cyclist wants to run the risk, then yes go ahead. In the end, he's the only one who'll suffer so let him do it.
And sitting in the station is not the only alternative to wasting peoples time giving tickets so stop trying to make it seem like it is.

Are you taking the mick, how does a cyclist running a red light be the only one who could potentially suffer. What if he crashes into a car and causes damage, what if he crashes into another cyclist and knocks him of his bike, what if he hits a motorcyclist causing him to crash, what if a car hits him and ends up killing him or even just injuring him, you don't think that is going to have an effect on the driver.

Cyclists have to obey the rules of the road just as much as other vehicles.

If he, and I'd imagine he did, broke the red light why should he not suffer the consequences of breaking the law, what makes him above the law. Fair enough the officer might not of dealt with the situation in the best way but that still doesn't mean he can get away with breaking the law.