The perfect murder

grizzly

What could this be? My flatmate says simply pushing someone from a height as it would be very hard tell the true cause of death. Last time in head up a mountain with him :eek:

RichieC

http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/perfect-murder/

Rabies

Is one not committed by or linked to me

artanevilla

They might not die though.

Pompey Magnus

A dagger made out of ice. Stab the victim then let the murder weapon melt leaving no finger prints...solve that Columbo!

KeithM89_old

I find the classic 'banana peel on top of the stairs' works wonders. Worked 4 times for me already...

Saila

grizzly indeed

Saila

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

A dagger made out of ice. Stab the victim then let the murder weapon melt leaving no finger prints...solve that Columbo!

you've thought of this before havent you..

sock puppet

I'd say if you drove for a couple of hours some night and killed some random person in a quite area it'd be hard to track you down.

RichieC

Saila wrote: »

you've thought of this before havent you..

not enough, an ice bullet would be far better.

Saermegil

Just kill someone you don't know - they'll never get you!

Saila

RichieC wrote: »

not enough, an ice bullet would be far better.

mythbusters fail, its been tested doesnt work

RichieC

Saila wrote: »

mythbusters fail, its been tested doesnt work

:mad:

I DONT WATCH TELLY!!!!

s3129

sock puppet wrote: »

I'd say if you drove for a couple of hours some night and killed some random person in a quite area it'd be hard to track you down.

thats what my sister said!!! she said who would know if some one took afew hours out of their day, drove to some random town far away, killed some one, and came back. haha.. obviously would have to plan routes where no camera would see car etc.. but ya.. could be done.



ROAD TRIPPPPPPPPPPPP

Saila

RichieC wrote: »

:mad:

I DONT WATCH TELLY!!!!

location: baghdad, nuff said..

Gneez

lots of paracetamol mashed up in someones food causes blood coagulation and ruined kidneys.

Saila

Gneez wrote: »

lots of paracetamol mashed up in someones food causes blood coagulation and ruined kidneys.

ah so a slow painfull murder of kidney failure!

Chaotic_Forces

sock puppet wrote: »

I'd say if you drove for a couple of hours some night and killed some random person in a quite area it'd be hard to track you down.

This combined with the most reliable non-tracable method of a murder weapon.

See, a lot of these "perfect murders" forget one of the most crucial points: your personality, your psyche and so on.

If I dislike a guy and murder him then the evidence is strong against me.

But if I go to say... Louth (I'm in Dublin), kill someone and return to Dublin within a few hours, unless I don't plan to strip the DNA off the body (for which there are a few useful methods ), then the motive is still against me.

A friend of mine once said "if you hate me and want to kill me, fire as many bullets as possible into a crowd when you shoot me, if you do a spree kill and have a air-tight alibi, you've done more than a lot of people have".

LighterGuy

The perfect murder is where you dont get caught.

How you do so, well thats up to you and luck, i've watched my fair share of criminal documentaries on discovery with my dad over the years. Guys get caught out over the slightest things and I mean the slightest things ...

Chaotic_Forces

LighterGuy wrote: »

The perfect murder is where you dont get caught.

How you do so, well thats up to you and luck, i've watched my fair share of criminal documentaries on discovery with my dad over the years. Guys get caught out over the slightest things and I mean the slightest things ...

The classic "he used the toilet and left dna on the seat from a hair"? Happens a lot, actually.

LighterGuy

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

The classic "he used the toilet and left dna on the seat from a hair"? Happens a lot, actually.

A person can plan everything to the finest detail but leave one small thing out and that small thing lands you in jail.

Dennis the Stone

I think successfully faking a suicide for the victim would be the perfect murder. A murder so perfect they don't even suspect it's a murder.

Chaotic_Forces

LighterGuy wrote: »

A person can plan everything to the finest detail but leave one small thing out and that small thing lands you in jail.

DNA gets you a lot. Basically there have been many stories and accounts of hitmen getting caught by sloppiness. Classic example is when human needs takes over. If I get hungry and want to eat after killing you, I more than likely will leave some sort of DNA in your home.
A professional should do the job and get out, as quickly and as inconspicously as possible.

thenightrider

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

A dagger made out of ice. Stab the victim then let the murder weapon melt leaving no finger prints...solve that Columbo!

It was done before on Tv and they got caught.

Chaotic_Forces

thenightrider wrote: »

It was done before on Tv and they got caught.

DNA or motive? Both are very different. On motive alone, I say it's their own fault. DNA can be just a cause of inexperience.

Kaneda_

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

DNA gets you a lot. Basically there have been many stories and accounts of hitmen getting caught by sloppiness. Classic example is when human needs takes over. If I get hungry and want to eat after killing you, I more than likely will leave some sort of DNA in your home.
A professional should do the job and get out, as quickly and as inconspicously as possible.

So you kill a man in his own home , then decide your're a small bit peckish and throw on a few slices of toast?

ColmDawson

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

A dagger made out of ice. Stab the victim then let the murder weapon melt leaving no finger prints...solve that Columbo!

Smerch, is that you?

Chaotic_Forces

Kaneda_ wrote: »

So you kill a man in his own home , then decide your're a small bit peckish and throw on a few slices of toast?

Yes and no. It's been document/proven or (we can say this for certain reasons)/rumoured that some novices do actually make that vital mistake.

It's very common for certain hitmen to steal valubles and as such... along with greed comes human requirements. Most new hitmen just think about the kill and not after it. For most it SHOULD be a method of "kill, leave". But for newbies it's usually "kill, loot, human needs, leave".

I think a key thing would be concealment/disposal of the corpse so that it could never be found. A combination of dissection, incineration and chemical degradation would be a good start.
Avoidance of suspicion of motive would also be necessary; great self-control would be required.
A lot of murders are never solved, most of these would be cold-blooded killings;when passions run high its hard to cover your tracks, much better to plan things in advance.
Hth

Kaneda_

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Yes and no. It's been document/proven or (we can say this for certain reasons)/rumoured that some novices do actually make that vital mistake.

It's very common for certain hitmen to steal valubles and as such... along with greed comes human requirements. Most new hitmen just think about the kill and not after it. For most it SHOULD be a method of "kill, leave". But for newbies it's usually "kill, loot, human needs, leave".

I understand what you mean, a few valuables would be hard to leave - for a novice anyway id imagine.Novice hitmen ,are they 'trained' to become hitmen or is it something you just fall into- army, mercenaries ,gangsters etc.I wonder!

Chaotic_Forces

Kaneda_ wrote: »

I understand what you mean, a few valuables would be hard to leave - for a novice anyway id imagine.Novice hitmen ,are they 'trained' to become hitmen or is it something you just fall into- army, mercenaries ,gangsters etc.I wonder!

It's not even that, it's just that most novices are overcome by the rush they get from actually killing someone and they think that the job is "over" since they hit the mark. So they basically let their guard down and get very, very sloppy.

Eh it depends on what you mean by "hitman".

If you mean an actual hitman as in say... you doing a job or two for people you trust, then it's a self-made thing. Mob hitmen are usually recruited by how well they can lie and how well their skills for the job of a hitman are.
As for your mercenaries/army thing, that is training but mostly it's training on how to kill the guy and how to escape to another place; since the people you're working for will usually lie/pay for your freedom.

To explain better:
self-made hitman: taking jobs for local people (wives/husbands and so on)
mob hitman: doing a high-price job usually between different gangs that won't affect the relationships between the gangs he works for in a negative manner
mercenary = highest bidder gets his service
army/CIA/FBI/ETC = whoever he's told to kill, he kills.

Senna

yeah, hiding the body's is key.
Is it strange that i was walking through a wind farms a few weeks ago and i thought "if i ever killed someone, this would be a great place to bury the body"

ardinn

I've often thought about being a hitman - If you can get a high powered rifle - (50cal barrett with the biggest silencer ever) or maybe something smaller, and shoot someone from like a 1/2 mile away - once the rifle aint registered to you, how the fukk would they know who did it - just glove up handling the bullets!!

Chaotic_Forces

ardinn wrote: »

I've often thought about being a hitman - If you can get a high powered rifle - (50cal barrett with the biggest silencer ever) or maybe something smaller, and shoot someone from like a 1/2 mile away - once the rifle aint registered to you, how the fukk would they know who did it - just glove up handling the bullets!!

If murder was so easy, we would all be killers.

TanG411

A sprinkle of glass dust into a drink will tear into their stomach. Fatal to the lungs if inhaled.

Saila

this thread is funny, from guys talking like they are hitmen and what they really do to a guy saying shoot from a long distance sniper style

you cant just be a 'sniper for a day' it takes a LOT of skill and experience to make a kill from a distance like that

Chaotic_Forces

Saila wrote: »

this thread is funny, from guys talking like they are hitmen and what they really do to a guy saying shoot from a long distance sniper style

you cant just be a 'sniper for a day' it takes a LOT of skill and experience to make a kill from a distance like that

I'm not acting like a hitman. I'm just saying what I know.
Frankly, I'd say being a hitman is a horrible idea.

TanG411

And to those who wish to become hitmen - May I interest you in a book?

[URL]Http://mirror.die.net/hitman/[/URL]

purity

Are you looking for ideas for a potential kill? Lol well I have been told many ways but haven't practiced them:) such as a piece of meat and hit the person over the head and the ferocity of the force should kill on impact, to be rid of evidence simply cook and eat the meat viola:)

LighterGuy

When you think about it.
The first thing is motive. So if you are willing to kill someone you are without a doubt going to be considered a suspect. Even if you sit on your anger for 5 years then commit something. So either way you have to have things airtight.

I remember watching a documentary once about a man who killed his wife. He put a chemical in her drink over a period of time (water etc) Now he was clever enough not to give large doses at each time. As it would show up later after death but in small doeses this chemical would show up as a natural cause of death.

What gave him away? ... police found medical case books of said chemical in his garage. Gave further extensive testing to find chemical and they found it withing the victims system. Now this was mid-90s. Before the internet. Can you imagine today? ... police have to be all over your computer if you are a suspect.

deathrider

I don't think any AH members would ever get away with murder.
"Well, Scooby, this was one of the most elusive murderers we've ever seen, and he would have gotten away it too, if he didn't blast all his victims with piss."

The Baltimore Sun

Assuming your victim drives a convertible.....
Prop yourself comfortably in behind a grassy knoll of some description with a high power rifle, and await his arrival.;)

Agonist

While the victim is having a bath in a locked bathroom, pump/pour nitrogen under the door. Give it a few minutes and switch on the bathroom fan.

Balfie

walk through Dublin city centre.. Offer a homeless/junkie 100 euro, some mcdonalds, a pair of nike, an a deal of heroin (talc powder)* an get him to kill who ever ya want dead..

petebricquette

Strangle the person to death, then hang them. It'll look like a suicide. I heard this from a mate who did forensics in college. Apparently, it's really hard to distinguish between the two. Obviously avoid hanging around or leaving DNA evidence.

ROCKMAN

PERFECT MURDER ie Getting away scot free..

Simple..

Give your Victim his first cigarette ..

it may take awhile but your sure to get away will it

Chaotic_Forces

petebricquette wrote: »

Strangle the person to death, then hang them. It'll look like a suicide. I heard this from a mate who did forensics in college. Apparently, it's really hard to distinguish between the two. Obviously avoid hanging around or leaving DNA evidence.

You can see the struggle difference.
Of course, if the vitctim is 100% unable to move/paralyzed then it works.

Agonist

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

You can see the struggle difference.
Of course, if the vitctim is 100% unable to move/paralyzed then it works.

But why not just hang then and skip the messy part? Ask then to pop up to the attic for the Christmas decorations and catch them unawares.

bradlente

An onion,beat someone to death and eat the evidence.....


AHA!!!!!

Cianos

I'd say most murders aren't solved.

Dravokivich

2 words...

Diplomatic Immuinity...