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Where to report VRT dodgers?

  • 30-03-2011 4:59pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭


    Can't find a phone number or an email address, and the gardaí don't want to know as it's not their area.

    Anyone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    We should start be reporting the illegailty of the tax itself to the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    We should start be reporting the illegailty of the tax itself to the EU.

    Why dont you put up the proof you have there for us? Otherwise , just like every other claim that's been bandied about , it's rubbish. You did forget that all time fan favourite about the fines Ireland pays every year though.

    Your around here plenty long enough to have read and participated in about 5 VRT is illegal related threads. The only proper proof that has ever been shown has been to show it's perfectly legal.

    I really dont think another thread dragged off on that front is needed.

    OP, customs would be the people to talk to I'd imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Can't find a phone number or an email address, and the gardaí don't want to know as it's not their area.

    Anyone?

    Revenue Commissioners


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    Revenue Commissioners

    I know that. Specifically what phone number or email address?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭I8A4RE


    Don't you have anything better to do with your time. There are more important issues to rat people out on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    n97 mini wrote: »
    I know that. Specifically what phone number or email address?

    11850.

    Then ask for Revenue Commissioners, then ask to speak to somebody about VRT dodging.

    You talk into the bottom bit of the phone and listen to the top bit btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    11850.

    Then ask for Revenue Commissioners, then ask to speak to somebody about VRT dodging.

    You talk into the bottom bit of the phone and listen to the top bit btw.
    :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Have you nothing better to do with your time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,091 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Bad karma OP, why do you care so much?
    Personal grudge or just keen to raise some much needed revenue for the state?

    CPL 593H



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭howardmarks


    does that mean if i get pulled by the cops and ive a nordy reg they wont do anything? I thought they confiscate the car.

    Im not condoning it btw i just thought u had to get any import registered within 24 hours


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    i personally dont see the problem with reporting it if its someone whos driving around for ages on foreign plates thus avoiding tax/nct/vrt..i have to pay all these why shouldn't everyone else?this is the problem with good old ireland today..the people who stay honest have to compensate for those who dont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    does that mean if i get pulled by the cops and ive a nordy reg they wont do anything? I thought they confiscate the car.

    I personally have had a car confiscated by the guards for being on UK plates. Fine of 10% of "open market" value to get it back.

    Actually got away with it after...loooong story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Can't find a phone number or an email address, and the gardaí don't want to know as it's not their area.

    Anyone?


    are you serious , how PETTY :mad: do you hold a grudge against this person ???:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,930 ✭✭✭✭challengemaster


    furiousox wrote: »
    Bad karma OP, why do you care so much?
    Personal grudge or just keen to raise some much needed revenue for the state?

    bad karma me hole, if you're going to import a car pay the vrt like everyone else that does, or don't import one. Doesn't have to be a personal grudge to want rid of tax/vrt dodgers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    davy_b wrote: »
    are you serious , how PETTY :mad:

    Is it still petty if someone in a foreign registered car ploughed in to you and drove off with nothing the Gards can do to find them?

    How about that , besides VRT , these people are not contributing anything to the country in the way of Motor tax that everyone else has to pay. Theres no way to keep track of whether the cars are even maintained to any safe basic level cos they wont be NCT'd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Reloc8 wrote: »
    11850.

    Then ask for Revenue Commissioners, then ask to speak to somebody about VRT dodging.

    You talk into the bottom bit of the phone and listen to the top bit btw.

    That's the logical thing to do, but carries no trolling value.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    Is it still petty if someone in a foreign registered car ploughed in to you and drove off with nothing the Gards can do to find them?

    How about that , besides VRT , these people are not contributing anything to the country in the way of Motor tax that everyone else has to pay. Theres no way to keep track of whether the cars are even maintained to any safe basic level cos they wont be NCT'd.
    Really? The vehicle may well be tested in it's country of origin.

    How do know that the car is not legitimately being used by a non resident?

    It is obvious that the OP has a grudge or else has very little to be doing with his time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    all tax dodgers are forcing me to pay more . Report them all I say.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Can't find a phone number or an email address, and the gardaí don't want to know as it's not their area.

    Anyone?

    How about mind your own business!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    Is it still petty if someone in a foreign registered car ploughed in to you and drove off with nothing the Gards can do to find them?

    How about that , besides VRT , these people are not contributing anything to the country in the way of Motor tax that everyone else has to pay. Theres no way to keep track of whether the cars are even maintained to any safe basic level cos they wont be NCT'd.


    ive paid over 40k in vrt over the last 10 years and begrudged every bit of it, because when you go in to pay they make up there own rules and depending on who you meet you could pay way over the odds or less and they will interview you like your a criminal ,

    i hate the revenue with a passion after an incident a few years ago , where i was on my way back into the country i was only after leaving the port with the car and i was stopped by a revenue **** on his way to work , he got out in traffic ran up the road and knocked on my window no uniform no ID nothing and roared at me to pull over to the side of the road , he never identified himself so i didnt know who he was i thought he was some looper so i pulled away , next thing he runs in front of me gives me a bollocking ( still dont have a clue who this guy is ) and eventually i get out to him and he finally identifies himself and takes the car i was in the country less than 30 mins :mad: i have always paid my vrt immediatly , and for what, i paid all this and i still drive to work every day on a road that a third world country would be embarrised by having burst tyres on potholes 6 inches deep and am treated like scum by some paper pushing revenue PERSON ! , so im not too fond of them at all , i dont bother bringing in cars anymore havent in a few years , so thankfully i dont have to deal with them anymore, and much to my sadness a distant family member was a customs officer and hes the biggest tax dodger i know.

    this is obviouisly a grudge held or someone who is bitter by how much tax they have to pay !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    I8A4RE wrote: »
    Don't you have anything better to do with your time. There are more important issues to rat people out on.

    Sorry, tax evasion not optional. Especially when the country is smashed broke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    Really? The vehicle may well be tested in it's country of origin.

    How do know that the car is not legitimately being used by a non resident?

    It is obvious that the OP has a grudge or else has very little to be doing with his time.

    is everything thats legal in other countries legal here? i think not..

    if the car is parked next door to you for six months are you park next to it every day for work i'd say its a safe bet it isn't a tourist


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Really? The vehicle may well be tested in it's country of origin. .

    It may well have been at some point but for most cars that find their way here, their tests will be out within a year.
    How do know that the car is not legitimately being used by a non resident? .

    If it is , it will be tax and insured in the owners home country. Either way, it's safe to assume in all but the very very odd case, that if it's around for more than a few weeks, it's on the road illegally
    It is obvious that the OP has a grudge or else has very little to be doing with his time.

    Or that they dont want to see the country being **** on.

    Everyones great at moaning about FF or the banks and how they've screwed us, but yet the average jow should be allowed and encouraged to get away with the same cute hooerism that we condenm politicians for. Hypocrisy of the highest order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    How about mind your own business!

    guess who drives a foreign reg car???:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    How about mind your own business!

    It is my business. It's my country.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    n97 mini wrote: »
    It is my business. It's my country.

    In my opinion you either take the risk yourself or admit your not willing and say fair play to the lad that does.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    davy_b wrote: »
    ive paid over 40k in vrt over the last 10 years and begrudged every bit of it, because when you go in to pay they make up there own rules and depending on who you meet you could pay way over the odds or less and they will interview you like your a criminal ,

    i hate the revenue with a passion after an incident a few years ago , where i was on my way back into the country i was only after leaving the port with the car and i was stopped by a revenue **** on his way to work , he got out in traffic ran up the road and knocked on my window no uniform no ID nothing and roared at me to pull over to the side of the road , he never identified himself so i didnt know who he was i thought he was some looper so i pulled away , next thing he runs in front of me gives me a bollocking ( still dont have a clue who this guy is ) and eventually i get out to him and he finally identifies himself and takes the car i was in the country less than 30 mins :mad: i have always paid my vrt immediatly , and for what, i paid all this and i still drive to work every day on a road that a third world country would be embarrised by having burst tyres on potholes 6 inches deep and am treated like scum by some paper pushing revenue PERSON ! , so im not too fond of them at all , i dont bother bringing in cars anymore havent in a few years , so thankfully i dont have to deal with them anymore, and much to my sadness a distant family member was a customs officer and hes the biggest tax dodger i know.

    this is obviouisly a grudge held or someone who is bitter by how much tax they have to pay !

    Im not one to call you a liar but I personally dont believe that story. the law has always allowed at least 24hours (more if you bring it in on a friday cos the office doesnt open till the monday and longer again now)to get a car VRT'd. You would have had the documents to show you only got off the boat.

    Plus if that guy saw one car in traffic and abandoned his car to go chase it, I doubt it's the only time, yet where are all these poor harassed people with tales of how supercop chased them down in traffic and impounded their cars? The guy must spend his whole day dealing with VRT dodgers and never get to work becaus eI pass by 2 or 3 foreign registered cars every time I go out.

    I've paid VRT on a car too and wasnt treated like a criminal. Nor anyone else I know thats paid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    In my opinion you either take the risk yourself or admit your not willing and say fair play to the lad that does.

    WTF? fair play to the lad that does??

    fair play to the revenue official who nails them then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭Break all ties


    n97 mini wrote: »
    It is my business. It's my country.
    Well your welcome to it. I am so glad I left the sinking cesspit of a country that it is.

    I wouldn't give the Irish state the steam off my you know what.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭RoundyMooney


    Reading this thread, I can see why donedeal is choc full of UK motors for sale from Irish addresses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    In my opinion you either take the risk yourself or admit your not willing and say fair play to the lad that does.

    Fair play to all the politicians that took money and got away with it so. If they take the risk and dont get caught, fair play. Hope I dont come across you condenming them for it anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭Reloc8


    n97 mini wrote: »
    It is my business. It's my country.

    I've no problem with you reporting any one you want and I detest tax evasion.

    Presuming your not some time-wasting lunatic (and even if you are) the Revenue Commissioners will be happy to hear your concerns.

    If you knew it was the Revenue Commissioners you wanted to talk to why do you need a thread on here about it though ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    troll-face-meme.png?w=468

    VRT IS ILLEGAL!! DON'T PAY IT!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Can't find a phone number or an email address, and the gardaí don't want to know as it's not their area.

    Anyone?

    get a life, enough taxes are paid here,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    mcwhirter wrote: »
    get a life, enough taxes are paid here,

    We've a €19 billion deficit.

    Taxes aren't optional.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Dave147 wrote: »

    VRT IS ILLEGAL!!

    Well, if you say it, it must be true.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,106 ✭✭✭SpannerMonkey


    Im not one to call you a liar but I personally dont believe that story. the law has always allowed at least 24hours (more if you bring it in on a friday cos the office doesnt open till the monday and longer again now)to get a car VRT'd. You would have had the documents to show you only got off the boat.

    Plus if that guy saw one car in traffic and abandoned his car to go chase it, I doubt it's the only time, yet where are all these poor harassed people with tales of how supercop chased them down in traffic and impounded their cars? The guy must spend his whole day dealing with VRT dodgers and never get to work becaus eI pass by 2 or 3 foreign registered cars every time I go out.

    I've paid VRT on a car too and wasnt treated like a criminal. Nor anyone else I know thats paid it.


    so you are calling me a liar . i was there it happened !!!! i have paid the vrt many times before that and after that with no hassle other than feeling robbed ,it only happened once out of many times, i didnt believe it either when it happened , apparently the guy was known for going after everyone he saw on duty of off even his neighbours , ( according to my family member in revenue when i mentioned his name to him) i have no reason to lie to you . believe what you want. i can only assume he got in a hump when i didnt do what he asked immediately , i dont know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    n97 mini wrote: »
    We've a €19 billion deficit.

    Taxes aren't optional.
    So you have taken it upon yourself to fill it yourself? How laudable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,718 ✭✭✭whippet


    I would be more than willing to shop them to the revenue .... and to all those who say 'mind your own business' etc ..... that is the mentality that has Lowry topping the poll in Tipp for the last few election ... 14000 mindless morons in Tipp who think a bit of tax dodging is alright ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    So you have taken it upon yourself to fill it yourself? .

    Quite the opposite, he's making sure he doesnt have to pay so much himself by making sure everyone else who should be paying their way, are.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    OP - Considering the amount of tax we pay in this country - most of which is vanishing down the great big money pit created by the banks - why the hell are you worrying about people who don't pay VRT?

    This is a tax that is nothing more than a racket designed to protect the car dealers here and runs contrary to the whole idea of the common market!

    So long as VRT exists I for one will never buy a new car here.

    SD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 396 ✭✭tmcw


    ....It is obvious that the OP has a grudge....

    Can't think of many better reasons for reporting someone for avoiding paying something they should be paying. Can you? You're hardly going to report a "sound mate" now, are you?

    Report him, OP. It's possible he's not paying a TV licence or dog licence either. Getting stung for the VRT might make him think longer about it in the future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭carface


    StudentDad wrote: »
    OP - Considering the amount of tax we pay in this country - most of which is vanishing down the great big money pit created by the banks - why the hell are you worrying about people who don't pay VRT?

    This is a tax that is nothing more than a racket designed to protect the car dealers here and runs contrary to the whole idea of the common market!

    So long as VRT exists I for one will never buy a new car here.

    SD

    So VRT is there to protect car dealers??????? tell us more of this racket


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭StudentDad


    carface wrote: »
    So VRT is there to protect car dealers??????? tell us more of this racket

    Well if VRT was abolished in the morning I for one would not buy a car here, I'd be over the border buying my car. Better specs as standard! Lower prices etc etc. FFS how many models of cars are just not sold here?

    SD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    It is obvious that the OP has a grudge or else has very little to be doing with his time.
    It's a neighbour of some 7 years, originally from NI, who always buys all their vehicles in NI, and if stopped uses their parents' address. One would assume he uses his own address for child benefit and so on.

    As a mod you should have a slightly better attitude towards tax evasion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Everybody pays tax. You don't like it, leave for somewhere where you pay less. Like I did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    As a mod you should have a slightly better attitude towards tax evasion.
    I am not a mod of this forum. I am an ordinary user and thus entitled to my own views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    I am not a mod of this forum. I am an ordinary user and thus entitled to my own views.

    Mods in favour of tax evasion. No wonder boards.ie has the reputation it has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭chiefwiggum


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Mods in favour of tax evasion. No wonder boards.ie has the reputation it has.

    ah here now..i agree what your argument is op but dont turn on the boards community because someone else has a different opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    if the car is parked next door to you for six months are you park next to it every day for work i'd say its a safe bet it isn't a tourist

    How do you know it's not a foreign student?
    Or maybe some Irish resident working for foreign company, and that's his company car.


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