TV Shows with People having to move abroad because of the dirty R word.

keithclancy

So,

Living out of Ireland over 3 years now. Have been watching the odd show on RTE and it all seems to be doom and gloom, but what really bugs me is the people moving to New Zealand, Australia, Canada etc.

Usually it involves lots of crying, people moaning about there being no work (you'd swear we were back to butter voucher days)

Then they go on to talk about some course they did in college and that there wasn't a job for them when they came out, New Zealand etc was their only option.

Then there is lots of crying at the Airport terminal and the father/mother starts blaming the Government for sending his son/daughter so far away.

I mean .. wtf .. theres the UK, The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and France all within a 2 hour flight away.

Wouldn't these people probably have went off to Australia, NZ, Canada anyway ?

How is the government 'forcing' anyone to move to a gaff so far away when theres a whole market of jobs available very close to Ireland.

Maybe Irish Ferries should start a Rosslare to Ellis Island route and someone playing a fiddle while the boat sales off into the sunset.

Whats your opinion ?

DrumSteve

Rear-ending?

Sykk

Reptiles? Paddy got rid of those snakes long time ago, boieh

keithclancy

DrumSteve wrote: »

Rear-ending?

First thing that popped into your head ?

Hmmm

Filth

sensibleken

Rectum is a dirty R word

Dravokivich

...Revolting?

prinz

keithclancy wrote: »

Whats your opinion ?

Closed mindedness, parochialism and being terrible at languages.

DrumSteve

keithclancy wrote: »

First thing that popped into your head ?

Hmmm

Filth

You did say Dirty R word...

hang on...

Is this another recession thread?

I call Shenanigans!

Spunge

keithclancy wrote: »

The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium

Wouldn't you need to speak the language to work there ?

keithclancy

Spunge wrote: »

Wouldn't you need to speak the language to work there ?

Nah, theres thousands of people working in International Companies. Parts of Holland you'll have hassle getting someone to speak in Dutch to you :pac:

Germany in the big International companies the language of business is English

Rigger?

keithclancy

Deleted User wrote: »

Rigger?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=rigger%20monkey%20rape

Wossack

RTE isnt a word, its an acronym

Orando Broom

Roipe. If you were a South African pronouncing rape.

Badgermonkey

Wossack wrote: »

RTE isnt a word, its an acronym

Anachronism surely?

General General

Rimjob.

RichieC

roggering

Duggy747

Roger Rabbit?

I thought it was an alright movie, certainly nothing to leave Ireland for

fakearms123

Racism?

sheesh

rudolph the red nosed reindeer?

mikom

Roma's?

Only joking, I know its Ryan Tubridy.

strokemyclover

*Stops crying*

Awww, I'm missing you already OP! Please come back! :(:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIHMPc6ZCuI

Saermegil

It honestly perplexes me as well, I think that it seems too much for some people to go to a country that's more "foreign" i.e. big difference in culture. I don't get how it is then easier for them to go accross the world!

Elessar

What programs are you talking about? I want to watch!

keithclancy

Elessar wrote: »

What programs are you talking about? I want to watch!

Some bollocks on RTE I think it was on a few weeks ago.

The phrase "Ders just no jabs here ... no jabs .. have to go to new zeeeland ... all me tings in a case, i did a sevil engeunneering course, no jabs .. i put in me time ... i expected a jab out of it"

The Dad was saying "Mee daugghter .. I blame the government"

I'd love to go to New Zealand, or Australia, although they are dodgy about bringing sausages,rashers and lucozade there ... mmmm lucozade.

Departure Day
http://www.rte.ie/tv/programmes/departure_day.html

That was it I think .. what a load of sh*t.

hatrickpatrick

I think it's a remnant of the beginning of the recession. Back in 2007/2008 when the subprime crisis started to unravel, Australia, Canada and NZ were the last countries to succumb to it. Australia and Canada in particular continues to have an economic boom as the rest of the world crashed and burned economically, so in terms of prosperity they were the only places left.

I doubt that's true today, the contagion has thoroughly spread throuhgout the world at this stage so I highly doubt there are any true booms going on right now. Every economy has slowed to some extent. So yes, in this day and age it's overdone. But 2 or 3 years ago it was perfectly reasonable.

I know a group who went to Canada for the summer in '09 just when Ireland was starting to fall apart and the economy there was still thriving. The same couldn't have been said for the rest of Europe or the US at the time.

Napper Hawkins

Saermegil wrote: »

It honestly perplexes me as well, I think that it seems too much for some people to go to a country that's more "foreign" i.e. big difference in culture. I don't get how it is then easier for them to go accross the world!

It's hardly rocket science.

You need to have at least a basic command of the native language if you want to go and live somewhere like France or Germany and, if you want a job that's not a piece of **** then getting yourself up to an intermediate level of conversation is a damn good idea or you're ****ed and I speak from experience.

As for Canada and Australia (which is basically just a hot Ireland with Kangaroos) you just need English.

chin_grin

It was never "The R word" here. It was "Stephen". <takes cap off, holds on heart> Ah how we remember Stephen (I'm pretty sure it was 'Stephen'......?).

breadandjam

keithclancy wrote: »

(you'd swear we were back to butter voucher days)

Ah butter vouchers-they were great you could use them as legal tender in a few shops where I lived in the 80s- buy anythinmg with them.

keithclancy

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

It's hardly rocket science.

You need to have at least a basic command of the native language if you want to go and live somewhere like France or Germany and, if you want a job that's not a piece of **** then getting yourself up to an intermediate level of conversation is a damn good idea or you're ****ed and I speak from experience.

As for Canada and Australia (which is basically just a hot Ireland with Kangaroos) you just need English.

http://www.toytowngermany.com/jobs/

You what now ?

Toytown Germany is the most popular source for English-speaking jobs in Germany. Whether you're resident in Germany and looking to change career, or wish to relocate to Germany, we can help you find professional jobs or casual work.

5,425
Jobs available

Huge community of Expats working in Europe:
http://www.expatica.com/

And even then, pickup the Language, how many Foreigners do you see coming to Ireland and picking up English ? I have a Polish buddy who didnt speak a word of English, after 2 years he got a good job in a large multinational in Cork.

Now he lives in Amsterdam working for another Multinational.

Saila

its the L word :rolleyes:

keithclancy

Saila wrote: »

its the L word :rolleyes:

Langer ?

OutlawPete

Ronan's not that dirty, are people really leaving the country over all that.

Jaysus, maybe Tubridy should have asked him some fecking questions so.

jester77

Majority of Irish people have a fear of languages and this comes down to the way Irish was forced onto them in school and you can't really blame them. It's the only experience a lot of them have when it comes to learning a second language. It's a pity it's like this, German is the most spoken language in Europe, economy is flying here, lots of jobs available and companies are having difficulties filling roles. It would make more sense for someone to learn some basic German and move here than to fly half way around the world. German is an easy language compared to Irish and you can pick up enough in a few weeks to get by.

Logical Fallacy

keithclancy wrote: »

So,

Living out of Ireland over 3 years now. Have been watching the odd show on RTE and it all seems to be doom and gloom, but what really bugs me is the people moving to New Zealand, Australia, Canada etc.

Usually it involves lots of crying, people moaning about there being no work (you'd swear we were back to butter voucher days)

Then they go on to talk about some course they did in college and that there wasn't a job for them when they came out, New Zealand etc was their only option.

Then there is lots of crying at the Airport terminal and the father/mother starts blaming the Government for sending his son/daughter so far away.

I mean .. wtf .. theres the UK, The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and France all within a 2 hour flight away.

Wouldn't these people probably have went off to Australia, NZ, Canada anyway ?

How is the government 'forcing' anyone to move to a gaff so far away when theres a whole market of jobs available very close to Ireland.

Maybe Irish Ferries should start a Rosslare to Ellis Island route and someone playing a fiddle while the boat sales off into the sunset.

Whats your opinion ?

Because in non English speaking countries they would actually have to feel like an immigrant as well as just be one.

No one wants that.

orestes

Spunge wrote: »

Wouldn't you need to speak the language to work there ?

Not really. I've just moved to Amsterdam to start working there, was working in Antwerp in Belgium before here. Most people in this part of Europe are at least bilingual and speak English perfectly, even though a small number of them do look down a bit on people who move over and dont know Dutch/Flemish/whatever for the vast majority of the time English is fine, from there just make a bit of an effort to learn the local lingo as you go and you should be fine in my experience

sollar

The FF government deserve(d) that its played up and made to sound as bad as possible.

Dudess

OP has a job, therefore can be smug.

Sir Gallagher

Dudess wrote: »

OP has a job, therefore can be smug.

When i first saw that program i was out of work and still thought it was sh1t, i understand it's hard for families to leave Ireland but forgive me for not sheddingf a tear for people heading off to Oz and Canada. They're hardly heading off in Coffin ships.

Agus

jester77 wrote: »

Majority of Irish people have a fear of languages and this comes down to the way Irish was forced onto them in school and you can't really blame them. It's the only experience a lot of them have when it comes to learning a second language. It's a pity it's like this,

I very much doubt that's the reason, sure the English, Americans etc don't seem to be any better at learning other languages. It's a common thing for Anglophones to be poor at learning second languages.

StupidLikeAFox

This may be true for a lot of 18-28 yr olds, give or take, but if you looked at that show there was also a guy in his 50s who had to head off and start a new life because there was nothing here for him, despite having worked here all his life. Saying goodbye to your parents at that age prob means thinking "This could be the last time"

No matter what the circumstances or your opinion of that guy, it isnt easy for him, just as it isnt easy for a lot of people. No amount of people saying "ah sure he'll be grand" or "it could be worse" is gonna change that.

Nolanger

keithclancy wrote: »

Whats your opinion ?

Spoilt Celtic-Tiger cubs with no backbone for a recession along with overpaid builders who got used to the good life. They all go to Australia because it's perfect for them - England without the culture.

keithclancy

Dudess wrote: »

OP has a job, therefore can be smug.

Smug ?

Nah ... more like, why look for sympathy moving to a country you would have went to in the first place anyway, recession or not.

There are jobs in Europe but this bullsh*t show has people on it complaining that they are being torn from their families is crap. They would have went anyway for whatever reason (Sun, working Holiday, job offer)

Its a 2 hour trip home for me with a 50 yoyo flight with Ryanair.
Its an 18 hourish 1500 euro trip home from OZ

Company in the City I live in is hiring a load of Irish People.

Anyway who cares .. that crap came out of your tax .. not mine

Ruu_Old

Mmm fush and chups.

Logical Fallacy

Dudess wrote: »

OP has a job, therefore can be smug.

Not really, he kind of has a point. It plays up the whole thing as ripping the country in twain. It's not like back in 1880 when you went to America and never spoken to anyone at home again except by occasional letter.

Any of these ****ers ever hear of Skype?:D

longhalloween

No one NEEDS to go to Australia, theres plenty of work here, maybe not professional jobs, but other factory, lowskill jobs.

Sure we're all just going for the craic, and, lets face it, Aussie p*ssy.

Vourney

jester77 wrote: »

Majority of Irish people have a fear of languages and this comes down to the way Irish was forced onto them in school and you can't really blame them. It's the only experience a lot of them have when it comes to learning a second language. It's a pity it's like this, German is the most spoken language in Europe, economy is flying here, lots of jobs available and companies are having difficulties filling roles. It would make more sense for someone to learn some basic German and move here than to fly half way around the world. German is an easy language compared to Irish and you can pick up enough in a few weeks to get by.

In my opinion, at least 50% of the posters on the boards here have a command of the English language that is very poor. At first I thought it may just be a stylistic, cultural choice, or a fad, to have a more casual, slang-oriented approach to the English language. The level of discussion and the command of the English language here on the boards, well, it's definately not the intellectual hub of internet -- lets just put it that way. I know I sound like a snob -- and probably I am -- but you are being a little generous. If they've been through the Irish education system and are in their early twenties and still can't speak proper English, it's unrealistic to think they can learn German and land an office job in Germany.

mikom

Vourney wrote: »

In my opinion, at least 50% of the posters on the boards here have a command of the English language that is very poor.

"In my opinion, at least 50% of the posters on boards have a very poor command of the English language."

I made this sentence a touch more fluid for the reader.
No charge.

Vourney

mikom wrote: »

"In my opinion, at least 50% of the posters on boards have a very poor command of the English language."

I made this sentence a touch more fluid for the reader.
No charge.

The sentence is grammatically correct either way. Editing posts you disagree with, rather than stating your thoughts and opinions, is passive aggressive and childish.

Do you think that most posters on the boards have a good command of the English language?

mikom

Vourney wrote: »

Editing posts you disagree with, rather than stating your thoughts and opinions, is passive aggressive

Yes, you're right.

*Tells Vourney what he/she wants to hear, even though I don't believe their analysis.*

Donkey Oaty

Vourney wrote: »

[location: USA] At first I thought it may just be a stylistic, cultural choice, or a fad, to have a more casual, slang-oriented approach to the English language. The level of discussion and the command of the English language here on the boards, well, it's definately not the intellectual hub of internet -- lets just put it that way. I know I sound like a snob -- and probably I am -- but you are being a little generous. If they've been through the Irish education system and are in their early twenties and still can't speak proper English, it's unrealistic to think they can learn German and land an office job in Germany.

How's the course going, Alison?