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Why do we as a nation prefer X Factor to our own All Ireland talent show?

  • 29-03-2011 11:07am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Godot.


    Even long before the Irish were allowed to vote. Genuine question.


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Stefan Quick Wristband


    Because it's like a local town hall fun night with no amazing talent being put on TV by comparison to the far more professional x-factor.


    edit: They're both crap, the only entertaining part of x factor is the bad auditions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,013 ✭✭✭Scarydoll


    I hate them programs. The irish one is especially cringy for some reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Possibly the most inane inquiry in the history of boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭IRISHSPORTSGUY


    If someone just made a poo Daithi would put the guy through to the next round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭XcupcakeX


    because the x factor doesn't have amanda brunker!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 226 ✭✭alexjk


    Because the X-Factor has far superior production values and garners appearances from some of the biggest acts in music.

    The All Ireland Talent Show is taking a British show, not paying the rights to produce it but slapping a crap name on it so that makes it alright.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Scanlas The 2nd


    The crowd in the X Factor are ridiculously loud which makes it seem more important.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    subliminal messaging?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    Both of em suck, but the import sucks with better production values so people are going to watch it more i imagine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭Cybertron85


    The Irish one is even more cringeworthy because it's us ripping off a steaming pile of **** show from the UK and doing it even worse.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭123balltv


    the Brits have more money, bigger productions :)

    who wants to watch Biddy or Johnny singing johnny Cash keep it Engish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    I'd rather blast myself with cat piss than watch that ****e.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Scarydoll wrote: »
    ...The Irish one is especially cringy for some reason.
    It didn't help last year I think it was when they dragged that clod cap fool O'Rea onto the show.
    Christ, I tuned in to see if it was any good, saw and heard him and that was enough!
    Switched off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Einstein


    Even the ones that win the Irish shows...their talent is not great at all tbh. As for the judges...if it makes them go "Awww..." you know their going through.

    Painful.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Because it's easier to laugh at our neighbours rather than ourselves?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    Godot. wrote: »
    Even long before the Irish were allowed to vote. Genuine question.

    God only knows, they are both absolute sh1te!!!!

    I would imagine because there is so much hype surrounding x factor, on the tv, mags, newspapers, radio etc; Not so much with the all ireland talent show


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    old hippy wrote: »
    Because it's easier to laugh at our neighbours rather than ourselves?
    At least we CAN laught at ourselves anyway.
    We laugh at our own "Paddy Irishman" jokes. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    XcupcakeX wrote: »
    because the x factor doesn't have amanda brunker!

    Or that ginger thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    God be with the old days when someone had to earn fame with 5 or 10 years of hard work before being recognised, as opposed to these "make me famous overnight" tv shows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Luxie


    It probably (IMO) actually makes more sense to compare the All Ireland Talent Show with Britain's Got Talent. With X Factor you're not really comparing like with like (both being shyte notwithstanding).

    X Factor is purely pop music and will have more mass appeal that a family from the Aran Islands doing Irish dancing.

    I would imagine.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    How do "we" know the Irish prefer to watch X Factor over All Ireland Talent Show? Do the ratings show that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Well, I don't like any of these shows BUT at least the X-Factor has superior production values and none of the tedious parochialism.
    bluewolf wrote: »
    edit: They're both crap, the only entertaining part of x factor is the bad auditions

    No, sorry, those are awful, they cherry pick vulnerable/mentally ill people from the crowds and exploit them for tawdry entertainment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 648 ✭✭✭k4kate


    Interesting that we as a nation insist on comparing ourselves always to what happens across the water and assuming that we are inferior. Hang up from our colonial days?

    The All Ireland Talent Show is a totally different concept from X-Factor. It's English equivalent is actually Britain's Got Talent and I seem to remember a lot of ****e on that too


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Possibly the most inane inquiry in the history of boards.

    Not really, it's a valid question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭CHealy


    X Factor, and even Britian's Got Talent, are unbelievably well produced shows, from the presenters to the camera work to the stages, its all very easy to watch.

    The All Ireland Talent show however is none of these things, its the most cringworthy show that rte have put on in years. I mean ffs who really wants to see three young fellas Irish dancing week in week out? And if I remember correctly they went on to win it that year.

    Its a show for rural Ireland where maybe Sky isnt available, and the one or two times Iv seen it for amusement value, its very evident that its for the likes of the West of this country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,053 ✭✭✭Aldebaran


    Personally, I think it's because the All-Ireland Talent Show is made for the contestants, whereas X-Factor is made for the viewer.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Aldebaran wrote: »
    Personally, I think it's because the All-Ireland Talent Show is made for the contestants, whereas X-Factor is made for the viewer.

    Great point!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    They're shìte anyways, bar X-Factor's awful auditions which I do enjoy.

    The Irish judges are pointless bar the fact they've been mingled together since they're familiar "personalities" to the public.

    If that Daithi was to act any more Irish then potatoes would start falling out of his mouth. Gobshìte.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,431 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    They're shìte anyways, bar X-Factor's awful auditions which I do enjoy.

    The Irish judges are pointless bar the fact they've been mingled together since they're familiar "personalities" to the public.

    If that Daithi was to act any more Irish then potatoes would start falling out of his mouth. Gobshìte.
    "ah sure cmon sure it's a bit of craic, go on the wesht.."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    CHealy wrote: »

    Its a show for rural Ireland where maybe Sky isnt available,

    Yep, cos rural Ireland has a roof over it that prevents satellite penetration.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    North, West, South, East..................and Dublin, of course :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    Both are fooking chronic and anyone who watches them religiously must be retarded.

    Thank you for your time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    Up until this year, the All Ireland Talent Show had been monopolised by kids. The odd time i had watched it, i genuinely thought it was a talent show for children, such was the lack of adult acts. It was all very parochial, something you'd expect to see at your local community centre benefit night.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    k4kate wrote: »
    The All Ireland Talent Show is a totally different concept from X-Factor. It's English equivalent is actually Britain's Got Talent and I seem to remember a lot of ****e on that too
    Whereas the actual equivelant of X-Factor (You're a Star) produced some excellent talent?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Luxie


    Well, I don't like any of these shows BUT at least the X-Factor has superior production values and none of the tedious parochialism.



    No, sorry, those are awful, they cherry pick vulnerable/mentally ill people from the crowds and exploit them for tawdry entertainment.

    This is actually true, I know someone who works in the media in the UK. Seemingly there are TWO rounds of auditions before the judges ever get involved. And yet these 'bad' acts still get through.

    Although that is obvious judging by the way Dermot always manages to find the best ones who go through and the very worst ones in the crowd whilst they're 'queueing'.

    In short What Poor Craythur said.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,209 ✭✭✭maximoose


    I sometimes enjoy watching the All Ireland Talent show simply because it is such pathetically bad television in every way that it has some cringe humour value and can be strangely entertaining.

    For people who DO like these kind of crap TV talent shows, its pretty obvious why they would prefer X-Factor. The gulf in class between the two, in pretty much every aspect of the shows, is HUGE.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    It is only missing a priest as MC.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    If that Daithi was to act any more Irish then potatoes would start falling out of his mouth. Gobshìte.

    +1. He is embarrassing to watch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    mikom wrote: »
    Yep, cos rural Ireland has a roof over it that prevents satellite penetration.......

    I know, some people have a strange view of rural Ireland, don't they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Luxie


    mike65 wrote: »
    It is only missing a priest as MC.

    And a tin of USA biscuits as top prize.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,477 ✭✭✭grenache


    I know, some people have a strange view of rural Ireland, don't they?
    that is because some people never leave Dublin. More's the pity them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭BizzyC


    They're both crap, but at least X Factor wont pretend that a guy who plays the spoons is someone worthy of being on TV....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,873 ✭✭✭Skid


    The All Ireland Talent Show is a nonsense programme.

    The next Elvis could be competing but you are still expected to vote for Little Billy playing the spoons from down the road because of 'the pride in your parish'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    mike65 wrote: »
    It is only missing a priest as MC.

    They all have lurvly bottoms Ted.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    I'm no fan of x factor its just a glorified karaoke competiton.

    But that all ireland show was the greatest load of perochial bogridden tripe ever it was like a hark back to the 1970s.

    And as for the young lad that won, good god i had cover my ears he was singing so out of tune...how the hell did he win??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,274 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    grenache wrote: »
    that is because some people never leave Dublin. More's the pity them.

    Talking to somebody when I was in college a few years back, who asked me where I was from. I told him Mullingar, to which he replied "is that near Maynooth?"

    Turned out Maynooth is the only place outside Dublin he had visited.

    On topic, the difference between the two shows is a few million euro of a budget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,670 ✭✭✭jonnny68


    Both these shows are cringeworthy especially that bloody X-Factor, why cant there be a show for up and coming bands or producers,real musicians instead of boy/girl bands churning out manufactured pop music rubbish.:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    Population is the factor, Britain 60/65million (huge talent pool )
    Ireland 5/6million (tiny talent pool)

    Twice the population of ireland would tune in to watch the X Factor each week, it can afford to have better production from advertisement revenue


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,276 ✭✭✭IRISHSPORTSGUY


    mike65 wrote: »
    It is only missing a priest as MC.

    Someone enlighten me? :o


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Someone enlighten me? :o

    Microphone compare.


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