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Lowry and Moriarity

  • 29-03-2011 9:26am
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    It was disappointing to see the supporters of a guilty corrupt TD show him support last week. I was full sure the message going out around the country at the election was that corrupt, self-serving representatives would not be tolerated anymore. Have we changed at all? I hope this was a tiny group who frankly dont know their ar$e from their elbow. If we dont change our views on corrupt politicians, we are destined to repeat the same mess we are in now. I think the people of Tipp should be coming out demanding Lowrys resignation.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,565 Dymo
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    To be honest I don't really care, this happened 14 years ago, and a lot has happened since then to clean things up. If it happened now it would be a different story.

    Lowry got kicked out of Fine Gael years ago where as if it was a FF TD he would probably of got a promotion.

    People from North Tipp are used to all these accusations about Lowry (I'm not from there) but he still gets work done and Lowry Land is another example, I bet most TD would give there right arm to have a development like that in their constituency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 Max Powers
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    Yes it happened 14 years ago and we all know he was a crook since then. It is relavant though as we could end up paying the rival companies who lost the contract. That Lowry Land thing is fantasy, first off, they wont be able to get the money (no one can in this climate), the area is not near a population centre and has poor transport links.

    Getting back to core issue, i would have thought the good people of North Tipp would be coming out saying we dont want a crook like this representing us anymore especially when the country needs all TDs working honestly for the betterment of the country, not get land rezoned, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,437 Ash.J.Williams
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    Dymo wrote: »
    To be honest I don't really care, this happened 14 years ago, and a lot has happened since then to clean things up. If it happened now it would be a different story.

    Lowry got kicked out of Fine Gael years ago where as if it was a FF TD he would probably of got a promotion.

    People from North Tipp are used to all these accusations about Lowry (I'm not from there) but he still gets work done and Lowry Land is another example, I bet most TD would give there right arm to have a development like that in their constituency.
    "getting work done" around Tipp is not supposed to be his job anymore. He is a td and should be working for the good of the nation. This was the change we were supposed to be voting for.

    They were trying to drill this point into healy rae last night on frontline...he looked very confused trying to get his head around it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,039 rmacm
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    "getting work done" around Tipp is not supposed to be his job anymore.

    It was never supposed to be his job in the first place (or any TD for that matter), granted I suspect I'm preaching to the converted saying this :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 Cat Melodeon
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    Max Powers wrote: »
    I think the people of Tipp should be coming out demanding Lowrys resignation.

    Personally I have sent a letter asking him to resign. Beyond that, there is not much else can be done - there is no process for removing an elected TD beyond waiting for the next election. He has too many loyal supporters for public censure to have any effect.

    And if you start preaching to 'the people of North Tipp' on here, you won't have much effect. No Lowry supporters declared their presence on the election thread during the campaign; it's unlikely they'll engage now. The rest of us North Tipp boardsies have been in despair over the Lowryites for years, no point complaining to us. We tried to change the guard this last election and managed to get rid of FF for the first time since the constituencies formation - that was an achievement. It will be harder to get rid of Lowry though, people still believe he 'gets things done' for North Tipp. I've yet to see anything he has done that wouldn't have been done anyway by existing public processes.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 338 SARZY
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    Just watched him on the web for the past hour.

    His defence is similar to the defence once uttered on a comedy show by none other than the great Bart Simpson himself.

    It goes like this," I didn't do it, Nobody saw me doing it, You can't prove it."

    Its perfect that Lowry and Bart are singing from the same hymnsheet.

    Because it is a comedy and Lowry would win an Oscar.

    Many others have made great defences in Parliaments only to be brought down later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 tippspur
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    He should resign,he's a crook.hopefully the CAB will get something on him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 Nevermind_
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    Dymo wrote: »

    People from North Tipp are used to all these accusations about Lowry (I'm not from there) but he still gets work done and Lowry Land is another example, I bet most TD would give there right arm to have a development like that in their constituency.

    Do you actually believe this is going to be built now?
    Can you imagine how it will look if the only casino gambling license in the country is awarded to Lowry's constituency? And laws are changed to allow it?

    The fact that Lowry is involved has now become the projects single biggest liability.
    It has become tainted by association


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,757 blue5000
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    Max Powers wrote: »
    It was disappointing to see the supporters of a guilty corrupt TD show him support last week. I was full sure the message going out around the country at the election was that corrupt, self-serving representatives would not be tolerated anymore. Have we changed at all? I hope this was a tiny group who frankly dont know their ar$e from their elbow. If we dont change our views on corrupt politicians, we are destined to repeat the same mess we are in now. I think the people of Tipp should be coming out demanding Lowrys resignation.
    :confused:

    Who says he is either guilty or corrupt? Do you think the ppl of Louth should have voted in Gerry Adams?

    If Micheal Lowry stands for re-election I will vote for him again along with at least 12,000 of my fellow constituents, he has suffered enough.

    No one is talking about all the legal eagles (vultures) who have bought a second house in West Cork with their tribunal earnings.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 Nevermind_
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    :confused:

    Who says he is either guilty or corrupt? Do you think the ppl of Louth should have voted in Gerry Adams?

    If Micheal Lowry stands for re-election I will vote for him again along with at least 12,000 of my fellow constituents, he has suffered enough.

    No one is talking about all the legal eagles (vultures) who have bought a second house in West Cork with their tribunal earnings.

    I suppose you have forgotten all about this as well ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Budgie29


    blue5000 wrote: »
    :confused:

    Who says he is either guilty or corrupt? Do you think the ppl of Louth should have voted in Gerry Adams?

    If Micheal Lowry stands for re-election I will vote for him again along with at least 12,000 of my fellow constituents, he has suffered enough.

    No one is talking about all the legal eagles (vultures) who have bought a second house in West Cork with their tribunal earnings.

    He is a tax cheat, has taken cash from businessmen and has lied to the Dail. North Tipp, the capital of gombeen redneck Ireland. You wont find too many morals down there. No wonder the country is in the state its in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 Max Powers
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    :confused:

    Who says he is either guilty or corrupt? Do you think the ppl of Louth should have voted in Gerry Adams?

    If Micheal Lowry stands for re-election I will vote for him again along with at least 12,000 of my fellow constituents, he has suffered enough.

    No one is talking about all the legal eagles (vultures) who have bought a second house in West Cork with their tribunal earnings.


    there is loads of talk about disgracefully paid tribunal lawyers but its not relevant to what we are talking here. Just so you know, he was found guilty in the tribunal of acting corruptly. Ben dunne built an extension on his house also, was that a act of genorosity on dunnes behalf? If you vote for a person like lowry, you are voting to keep this country in the state it is in, TDs will never learn until people demand proper high standards from our representatives.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,757 blue5000
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    The main reason I vote for Micheal Lowry is because I'm expressing my democratic right to vote for who I want in the dail.

    Secondly I vote for him because it's the nicest way I can give 2 fingers to my jumped up second cousins who live in south co dublin, or dublin 4 who think they are far superior than the rest of us.:P

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 MonsterMob
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    Secondly I vote for him because it's the nicest way I can give 2 fingers to my jumped up second cousins who live in south co dublin, or dublin 4 who think they are far superior than the rest of us.:P

    says it all really....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 Cat Melodeon
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    The main reason I vote for Micheal Lowry is because I'm expressing my democratic right to vote for who I want in the dail.

    Secondly I vote for him because it's the nicest way I can give 2 fingers to my jumped up second cousins who live in south co dublin, or dublin 4 who think they are far superior than the rest of us.:P

    Yes, you have a democratic right to vote for whoever you want. Giving a vote to a confirmed liar and tax cheat simply because it will annoy people in other constituencies is a bit strange though. As a fellow North Tipp voter, I really don't understand you or other people who voted for Mr Lowry. You all talk about the great things he has done for 'us'. Could you possibly list 5 things he has done that would not have been done by state processes in any case (eg the building or schools, granting of medical cards etc). And I mean things in recent history (ie since the election in 2007) not ancient stuff like Feile and Semple or Tipp Institute. I am not aware of anything he has done that has positively affected the lives of people in general in North Tipp. As far as I can see, all he has done is cast a slur on the reputation of the constituency as a whole and show us up to be incapable of demanding high standards of honesty from our representatives.

    So, 5 positive and honest things, if you can, please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 littlesthobo
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    I really don't understand you or other people who voted for Mr Lowry.

    No fan of Lowry. I live( don't have a vote) in North Tipp and you'd be hard pressed to find someone worthwhile to vote for down here in the last election. You can say all you like about him but he gets results and is seen to deliver and he got voted in on the back of that.

    Bear in mind aswell that all this happened 14 odd years ago, maybe he's changed:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 JabbaTheHut
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    So, 5 positive and honest things, if you can, please.

    I'd be very interested in seeing this too. I'm a South Tipp voter, and kinda assumed he did things in North Tipp, and thought that was why he got re-elected time and time again. I'm not throwing stones, (we have Mattie, after all), just interested in seeing some of the responses to that question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 Kristopherus
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    The main reason I vote for Micheal Lowry is because I'm expressing my democratic right to vote for who I want in the dail.

    Secondly I vote for him because it's the nicest way I can give 2 fingers to my jumped up second cousins who live in south co dublin, or dublin 4 who think they are far superior than the rest of us.:P

    With delusions like that there will surely be a big Casino in Lowry Land:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,655 1966
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    So, 5 positive and honest things, if you can, please.

    - OK - just to give you a head-start...............

    1. Attended recent wedding....
    2. Attended neighbours funeral.....
    3. Attended GAA match....


    4 & 5 up to you.....................


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,757 blue5000
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    Nevermind_ wrote: »
    I suppose you have forgotten all about this as well ?


    Are you suggesting that Ben Dunne, the man who around this time was perilously close to jumping off a balcony is a fairy?:confused:

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,757 blue5000
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    1966 wrote: »
    - OK - just to give you a head-start...............

    1. Attended recent wedding....
    2. Attended neighbours funeral.....
    3. Attended GAA match....


    4 & 5 up to you.....................

    Ok had a quick look there and here's 5, all health, education or jobs related in N Tipp.:cool:
      1.Tipp Institute
      2.Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed that Minister Batt O’Keefe has included a further 6 million euro in his Department’s estimate for a new school at Nenagh Vocational College[/FONT][/SIZE]
      3.Independent Deputy Michael Lowry TD has received confirmation from Education Minister Batt O’Keefe that the Government have formally decided not to implement a closure recommendation in respect of Tipperary Institute arising from the McCarthy report[/SIZE][/FONT]

    4.Independent Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed that funding is to be released immediately to begin work on a new endoscopy unit at Nenagh General hospital.[/SIZE][/FONT]

    5.OMC are to benefit from a €400,000 grant from Enterprise Ireland for investment in a new Thurles based project, Independent Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 MonsterMob
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    Ok had a quick look there and here's 5, all health, education or jobs related in N Tipp.:cool:

    • 1.Tipp Institute

    • 2.Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed that Minister Batt O’Keefe has included a further 6 million euro in his Department’s estimate for a new school at Nenagh Vocational College[/FONT][/SIZE]

    • 3.Independent Deputy Michael Lowry TD has received confirmation from Education Minister Batt O’Keefe that the Government have formally decided not to implement a closure recommendation in respect of Tipperary Institute arising from the McCarthy report[/SIZE][/FONT]
    4.Independent Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed that funding is to be released immediately to begin work on a new endoscopy unit at Nenagh General hospital.[/SIZE][/FONT]

    5.OMC are to benefit from a €400,000 grant from Enterprise Ireland for investment in a new Thurles based project, Independent Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed

    'Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed' That doesn't mean anything, the decision has already been made. The man on the street can write to these ministers and confirm it! Do you really think the decisions wouldn't have been made if lowry wasn't involved. Don't be so naive....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 328 Nevermind_
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    Are you suggesting that Ben Dunne, the man who around this time was perilously close to jumping off a balcony is a fairy?:confused:

    Where did I suggest that?
    I humbly suggest you google the word satire, then play the clip again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 littlesthobo
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    Ok had a quick look there and here's 5, all health, education or jobs related in N Tipp.:cool:
      1.Tipp Institute
      2.Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed that Minister Batt O’Keefe has included a further 6 million euro in his Department’s estimate for a new school at Nenagh Vocational College[/FONT][/SIZE]
      3.Independent Deputy Michael Lowry TD has received confirmation from Education Minister Batt O’Keefe that the Government have formally decided not to implement a closure recommendation in respect of Tipperary Institute arising from the McCarthy report[/SIZE][/FONT]

    4.Independent Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed that funding is to be released immediately to begin work on a new endoscopy unit at Nenagh General hospital.[/SIZE][/FONT]

    5.OMC are to benefit from a €400,000 grant from Enterprise Ireland for investment in a new Thurles based project, Independent Deputy Michael Lowry has confirmed

    And dont forget the new school thats going to be built in Borrisokane. He's taking credit for that too, and shure didnt he get the pensioners excluded from cuts in the last budget aswell


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,757 blue5000
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    I copied and pasted these off his own website, sure it has to be true......:D

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,510 Max Powers
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    blue5000 wrote: »
    The main reason I vote for Micheal Lowry is because I'm expressing my democratic right to vote for who I want in the dail.

    Secondly I vote for him because it's the nicest way I can give 2 fingers to my jumped up second cousins who live in south co dublin, or dublin 4 who think they are far superior than the rest of us.:P


    not the ''rest of us'', but im sure they feel superior to you after the second paragraph of that post


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,972 Insect Overlord
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    Max Powers wrote: »
    not the ''rest of us'', but im sure they feel superior to you after the second paragraph of that post

    Next personalised post gets a ban. Attack the post, not the poster. That goes for everyone in this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,412 Road-Hog
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    Max Powers wrote: »
    not the ''rest of us'', but im sure they feel superior to you after the second paragraph of that post

    Maybe its Lowry we should be sending to fight our corner in the european debt/banking crisis, forget about Enda, if Mr Lowry can convience 14,105 people to give him a 'mandate' after his track record then surely influencing a few european bureaucrats to allow 'burden sharing', debt default, interest rate reduction etc would be no problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 fryup
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    are tipperary people the most "clanish" in ireland?

    i think the support for Lowry proves that they are


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 Cat Melodeon
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    No fan of Lowry. I live( don't have a vote) in North Tipp and you'd be hard pressed to find someone worthwhile to vote for down here in the last election. You can say all you like about him but he gets results and is seen to deliver and he got voted in on the back of that.

    Bear in mind aswell that all this happened 14 odd years ago, maybe he's changed:)


    I'm still waiting for a list of things he has done that have contributed to the betterment of the country or North Tipp because statements like yours truly baffle me.
    blue5000 wrote: »
    I copied and pasted these off his own website, sure it has to be true......biggrin.gif

    I know you weren't fully serious but some folk really do believe this crap.

    Tipp Inst is only surviving because it is becoming a satellite campus of LIT. Mr Lowry has had very little to do with that process.

    Anything related to school improvements or building comes under the remit of the Dept of Education - Mr Lowry has never served as Minister for Education and any credit he claims for moving capital projects along is actually an admission of interfering with a functioning public service that would be much more efficient were it left alone to do its work without politicians poking their stick in.

    Mr Lowry had nothing to do with the endoscopy unit at Nenagh. As far as TDs go, Maire Hoctor was much more involved with that process having served as Minister for State at the Dept of Health among other roles, although anyone who knows anything about Nenagh Hospital know that it's the Nenagh Action Group that has lobbied and pressed for the retention of services at Nenagh and which has been much more effective than any of the TDs.

    I don't know much about OMC or the grant from Enterprise Ireland. Afaik, Enterprise Ireland's job is to do that sort of thing and TDs get to take it in turns to announce the good news. That's true for all announcements really, you see it in the Tipp Star all the time : Lowry welcomes such and such a thing, Coonan confirms XYZ. It doesn't mean they did a tap to actually contribute to what's being announced, only that they get to be the messenger.
    1966 wrote: »
    -1. Attended recent wedding....
    2. Attended neighbours funeral.....
    3. Attended GAA match....


    4 & 5 up to you.....................

    Much closer to the truth. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 380 littlesthobo
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    I'm still waiting for a list of things he has done that have contributed to the betterment of the country or North Tipp because statements like yours truly baffle me.

    A list of things were mentioned further up.

    I know you weren't fully serious

    Thank you
    anyone who knows anything about Nenagh Hospital know that it's the Nenagh Action Group that has lobbied and pressed for the retention of services at Nenagh and which has been much more effective than any of the TDs.

    Agreed.
    TDs get to take it in turns to announce the good news. That's true for all announcements really, you see it in the Tipp Star all the time : Lowry welcomes such and such a thing, Coonan confirms XYZ. It doesn't mean they did a tap to actually contribute to what's being announced, only that they get to be the messenger.

    Agree with this, and Lowry got to be the messenger more than most so in the eyes of the public he was seen to be doing more for them and the votes follow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 tipptom
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    What about the money Ben Dunne gave to Lowry for his workers at christmas time,he trousered the lot of it himself,he is a people man alright.




  • Budgie29 wrote: »
    He is a tax cheat, has taken cash from businessmen and has lied to the Dail. North Tipp, the capital of gombeen redneck Ireland. You wont find too many morals down there. No wonder the country is in the state its in.

    HE FIXED THE ROADS!!! :D

    Seriously i don't like Lowry as much as anyone but keep the ignorant generalisations out of this thread.

    I find it amazing how anyone from a town > 1 square mile have this big notion of their own sophistication that they could make a condescending remark about another area just because it isn't as densely populated or built up as their own.

    You wouldn't mind most of the gangsters that was voted in in urban areas over the years in the likes of Dublin and yet you'd swear Lowry was the first.

    Whether we like him or not fact is Lowry gets these jobs done for the people no matter how small the requests are and the people are blinded by these things because of the following reasons
    1. People are so disillusioned by the political system that this is what they think politics consist of
    2. There is no one else in the constituency that will do a tap for them.

    But this is the greater state of the voting system in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 tipptom
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    I wish he would stop using the phrase,"as long as the people of North Tipperary keep supporting me" in his speeches.The vast majority of people in North Tipperary did not vote for him and most of the people i have been talking to that did not vote for him in North Tipp find him a very unsavoury character to be representing this area.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,542 Vizzy
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    tipptom wrote: »
    The vast majority of people in North Tipperary did not vote for him and most of the people i have been talking to that did not vote for him in North Tipp find him a very unsavoury character to be representing this area.

    Agree with you entirely but unfortunately more people voted for him than anyone else -democracy huh.
    Anyway you don't have to travel far to see plenty more gombeens being voted in ( Tipp SR or Kerry for example)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 tipptom
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    Vizzy wrote: »
    Agree with you entirely but unfortunately more people voted for him than anyone else -democracy huh.
    Anyway you don't have to travel far to see plenty more gombeens being voted in ( Tipp SR or Kerry for example)
    Definatly,and you only have to look to dublin with bertie ahern,liam lawlor and ray burke,but it does not do N T any favours when you get people who turned up at his PR arranged "homecoming",(you would swear it was somehing to be proud of),telling the RTE interviewer that"sure wasnt it better he gave the licence to an Irishman",and another tell him that he would flatten him against the wall if he mentioned the moriarity report again.Oh and Michael negotiated well for the people of NT when he had the power by getting a plum job for his 24 year old PR woman,where was the interest of NT there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,461 popebenny16
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    Oh goodie, a lowry thread!!

    when moriarty came out (the report I mean) i had great wars on the twitter machine with the people who urged a boycott of tipperary, and who engaged in talk about rednecks, gombeens, idiots ect. The fact is that 70% of the electorite who voted did not vote for Lowry.

    Not that the weekly Lowry aka the Tipperary Star would have you believe that. Take a look at the headines for the two weeks around the publication of the report, they are defesive of him and instead of addressing any of the issues raised in the report it speads out over two pages each week firstly his statement in Thurles and secondly his statement in the Dail. It also said that the people of Tipperary were in "defensive mode" as we were "called idiots and gombeens" and as such we were all rallying around to his cause.

    The thing is that Lowry's supporters all cling to the man like a religious idol. Let me give you two examples, spoken to my face.

    Firstly, during the election I was told by one Lowry supporter and voter how great he is, all he has done, this that, and then those lousy FF had cut her carers allowance, cut the dole, cut the medical cards. When I told her that Lowey had voted for every single one of those cuts in the Budget and also in the vote on the Social Welfare Bill she called me a FF supporter and just trying to do Lowry down.

    Secondly, a few years ago my mother in law, also a big Lowry supporter, told me this one: There was this poor girl, she was flying to New York. Never been on a plane before, never in an airport. Sure didnt she get on the wrong plane!! There she was on her way to south africa!! She arrived at South Africa and in a panic rang her daddy, who didnt know what to do. Sure, I know, he says, I will ring Michael Lowry. "dont you worry, says Michael, I will take care of it" even though it was the middle of the night, the daddy was told Michael will take care of it.
    An hour passed. The telephone rang again. "Hello", says the man " my name is Bernie Cahill, and the first thing I have to say to you is that your daughter is safe and sound. We have put her up for the night in a hotal at Are Lingus' exepense. We will get her to New York tomorrow, no expense will be spared"

    The daddy had no idea who Bernie Cahill was, untill he explained that he was the chief of Aer Lingus and that Michael Lowry had telephoned him. But he was very thankful for the news and glad that it was all sorted out. Next day that poor lost girl went from South Africa back to New York.

    I did try to point out how this could not in anyway shape or form happen, but my MIL has never been to an airport so how would she know? Besides she dismissed me as being from Dublin and again Lowry. There are many like her, they belive that a little girl got lost and Lowry got the sadly deceased Mr Cahill to rescue her. I am sure there are many similar stories spread about the place.

    As for what Lowry "does", well, apart from "announcing" and "welcoming" things, he "gets people medical cards" and "stuff", which suggests to me that he can get people who dont deserve medical cards their cards (there is a means test) and likewise stuff regarding council decisions and whatnot.

    Funny how, when it comes to decisions not based by public servants within north tipp, his influence suddenly evaporates. Did he stop Kellys of Fantane going bang? Dwans? Erin Foods? Sugar Factory? Has he created one single job in all of this time? What investments can he claim?

    In the end it was all summed up by an exchange I had on the twitter machine during the election with a nice enough chap from borrisokane who had a child with Cerebal Palsey. He needed his child to be assessed, and his child was on a waiting list and this was causing him great angst. Fair enough, I am a father too, I would feel the same. But he deciced to try and get Hoctor and Coonan and Lowry on the case. He described Hoctor and Coonan as rubbish in that they could not help him. However, he said that after contacting Lowry wouldnt you know it, an appointment popped in the door for his child and that was why he was going to vote for lowry.

    In this instance, I do not believe he was a plant for Lowry spinning a yarn like what was told to my MIL - i belive this happened. What I did not have the heart to say to this man, a well intentioned man, was that the morning he got that letter, another well intentioned man, a father of another child with CP, opened a letter telling him that his child's appointment had been deferred due to unforseen curcumstances. Imagine how that father must have felt, after doing all the waiting, and now his child goes back into the waiting list, all because, somehow, having promised a vote to Lowry, the first mans child got an appointment. And, no, you cannot ram in extra appointments into a day in the hospital, there is a set number in the morning and afternoon.

    Of course, all TD's do this, or pretend they can, but when it is as blatent as the example above, maybe then you can see why he gets the vote he gets, as damning an indictment as it is for all concerned.


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