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Illegalizing alcohol - would you be in favour of such a move

  • 28-03-2011 9:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    They say alcohol in moderation is good for you - like a glass of red wine a day. Problem here in this country is that many people do not know how to drink sensibly. Many would go out at weekends and binge drink. Some people who go out and do know how to drink sensibly may end up being intoxicated without wishing to due to other factors such as tiredness, hunger, stress, menstruation which leads to alcohol being absorbed into the bloodstream quicker.

    The effects of alcohol in these cases could cause such things as:
    - alcohol poisoning
    - assaults, and rape
    - more prone to sillyiness which could result in harm of oneself.
    - more vulnerable to peer pressure - could lead to taking hardcore drugs more easily such as ecstasy, cocaine
    - unprotected sex
    - unwanted pregnancies
    - sexually transmitted diseases
    - A+E overloads
    - drunk driving, which could lead to death of oneself and others

    Alcohol is addictive and some may become alcoholics which would result in other problems.
    Would you be in favour of such a move
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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Corbin Stale Restoration


    Much as I hate hate hate excess drinking and being around drunk people, no I wouldnt


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,424 ✭✭✭Storminateacup


    I WOULD BURN DOWN THE DAIL IF THEY EVER EVEN TRIED IT.


    for real. i am not even joking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Yes just for the smug feeling I'd enjoy while drinking my home brewed stuff


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    Alcohol killed my father....AND IT RAPED MY MOTHER!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Fcuk no!!

    Some people cant handle their drink, some can.
    Why punish everyone?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Alcohol killed my father....AND IT RAPED MY MOTHER!

    and took your sister's money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭Bog


    It would only lead to bootlegging and unneccessarily elaborate bowling ball liquor-filled shenanigans.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    Can we negotiate? Ban alcohol but legalize cannabis.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 666 ✭✭✭pigeonbutler


    It worked really well in the USA i suppose..

    oh wait.... :rolleyes:


    Oh and also. "Illegalizing" isn't a word. Try prohibit, ban, outlaw, forbid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,533 ✭✭✭Daniel S


    Alcohol killed my father....AND IT RAPED MY MOTHER!

    Were you drinking?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭Daegerty


    Can we negotiate? Ban alcohol but legalize cannabis.

    ban Facebook instead, legalise cannabis


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭omg a kitty


    In Ireland????? You're joking right??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭[Rasta]


    we'd just end up with 1000x more druggies :pac:
    so I'd rather see drunk people than thousands of acid heads lurking around jumping people for cash


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    They say alcohol in moderation is good for you - like a glass of red wine a day. Problem here in this country is that many people do not know how to drink sensibly. Many would go out at weekends and binge drink. Some people who go out and do know how to drink sensibly may end up being intoxicated without wishing to due to other factors such as tiredness, hunger, stress, menstruation which leads to alcohol being absorbed into the bloodstream quicker.

    The effects of alcohol in these cases could cause such things as:
    - alcohol poisoning
    - assaults, and rape
    - more prone to sillyiness which could result in harm of oneself.
    - more vulnerable to peer pressure - could lead to taking hardcore drugs more easily such as ecstasy, cocaine
    - unprotected sex
    - unwanted pregnancies
    - sexually transmitted diseases

    - A+E overloads
    - drunk driving, which could lead to death of oneself and others

    Alcohol is addictive and some may become alcoholics which would result in other problems.
    Would you be in favour of such a move

    Lets just ban sex instead, that will solve all your problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,973 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    No.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Prohibition doesn't work. If alcohol were banned, it would flood the black market, kids would probably be able to get it a lot easier than they do now and people would be arrested and imprisoned for simply wanting to intoxicate themselves which is something our species (and other species) has been doing for thousands of years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭NeedaNewName


    I'd raise the legal age to 21 and educate young people on responsible drinking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    Yes, ban it now. I fancy a Career change, and "bootlegger" has a certain ring to it.


    The missus reckons I'd be a dab hand, she says I've had years of experience smuggling noxious liquids, if the bathroom floor is anything to go by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    No. I'd prefer if people chose not to drink it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 155 ✭✭theavenger


    Hell yeah, then we can do bachelors walk empire.

    Is Steve Buscemi free?:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    The effects of alcohol in these cases could cause such things as:
    - alcohol poisoning
    - assaults, and rape
    - more prone to sillyiness which could result in harm of oneself.
    - more vulnerable to peer pressure - could lead to taking hardcore drugs more easily such as ecstasy, cocaine
    - unprotected sex
    - unwanted pregnancies
    - sexually transmitted diseases
    - A+E overloads
    - drunk driving, which could lead to death of oneself and others

    I binge drink on occasions, I have done none of the above. Banning idiots might be a better idea though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭barbarians


    Banning alocohol ?
    Now that would be funny.



    Never going to happen here and if it did we might as well led the criminal gangs run the country.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    Do it - then i can become a Beer Baron and get to wear a hat...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭CokaColumbo


    No and I would end the war on all drugs. The negative effects of alcohol prohibition apply to the prohibition of all other drugs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭easyeason3


    What a load of ****e.

    Why not wrap us up in cotton wool while you're at it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    I'd raise the legal age to 21 and educate young people on responsible drinking.

    so instead of drunk,violent,immature 18 year olds running about you'd have stronger more drunk,violent and immature 21 year olds?,makes sense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    easyeason3 wrote: »
    What a load of ****e.

    Why not wrap us up in cotton wool while you're at it.

    Good God that's a great idea.

    Imagine rolling down hills drunk wrapped in cotton wool. You're on to something here


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    Prohibition doesn't work. If alcohol were banned, it would flood the black market, kids would probably be able to get it a lot easier than they do now and people would be arrested and imprisoned for simply wanting to intoxicate themselves which is something our species (and other species) has been doing for thousands of years.

    Well then why is cannabis illegal?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Do it - then i can become a Beer Baron and get to wear a hat...

    And be like Homer in that episode! :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭blackalicious


    alcohol does a lot more damage to society than a lot of the illegal drugs. that said i would never be in favour of illegalizing it.. sure im a semi alcoholic as it is..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,108 ✭✭✭RachaelVO


    SH!T NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    How else would I find the guts to tell my boss to go fcuk himself?????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭Revolution9


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Well then why is cannabis illegal?

    The question is not why is it illegal but does it's illegality serve society. A lot of people seem to think it doesn't. Certainly wouldn't with alcohol as the Yanks proved in the 30s


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    Not untill we invent a way to make Homer Simpson real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    Well then why is cannabis illegal?

    It shouldn't be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭CokaColumbo


    .. sure im a semi alcoholic as it is..

    That's the first half-step on the road to recovery.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    They say alcohol in moderation is good for you - like a glass of red wine a day. Problem here in this country is that many people do not know how to drink sensibly. Many would go out at weekends and binge drink. Some people who go out and do know how to drink sensibly may end up being intoxicated without wishing to due to other factors such as tiredness, hunger, stress, menstruation which leads to alcohol being absorbed into the bloodstream quicker.

    The effects of alcohol in these cases could cause such things as:
    - alcohol poisoning
    - assaults, and rape
    - more prone to sillyiness which could result in harm of oneself.
    - more vulnerable to peer pressure - could lead to taking hardcore drugs more easily such as ecstasy, cocaine
    - unprotected sex
    - unwanted pregnancies
    - sexually transmitted diseases
    - A+E overloads
    - drunk driving, which could lead to death of oneself and others

    Alcohol is addictive and some may become alcoholics which would result in other problems.
    Would you be in favour of such a move

    I don't agree with any of these. Just saying. but my biggest objection to this:

    Do I want a barely qualified, elected smoothtalker in a suit to make these decisions for me, a guy whom historically would be corrupt, self-serving, and generally misguided?

    Nope. Me and my family can make our own fcuking decisions TYVM!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭Squirm


    Ok, ignoring completely the actual practicalities of illegalising alcohol or the potential side-effects (homebrew and the danger of everyone drinking 80 proof moonshine instead!)...

    ... in a way, yes I would.

    I am not a big drinker anymore and I find it difficult to organise activities with my friends that do not involve alcohol. When I suggest going for dinner, I am regularly met with reluctance, on the grounds that no-one has any money and everyone is going out that night and needs cash for booze and taxis etc. And organising day-time activities can be difficult too, when everyone is hungover at the weekend! Of course I am not talking about all my friends, all the time, but it's something I am noticing more and more, the less I drink. I go to pubs and have a few and I am not against going to pubs and not drinking, but it would be nice to place an emphasis on something else for a while.

    That said, it is an absolutely bogus suggestion that would never, in a month of Sundays, be remotely realistic or feasible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    so instead of drunk,violent,immature 18 year olds running about you'd have stronger more drunk,violent and immature 21 year olds?,makes sense.

    Plenty of drunk, violent and immature 41 year olds in the center of my town every wekend. We need to educate our adult society on moderate alcohol use before we can give them the responsibility of educating their kids by setting the right example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    the amount of money the government gets from alcohol tax means your outrageous idea will never happen. they should legalise cannabis, make dublin the new amsterdam, and reap in the extra tourism and tax sales (and cookie sales)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    not a chance and I dont even like alcohol all that much


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Only a person with the IQ of a chimp would think it a good idea.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    It shouldn't be.

    to be honest,i don't think i have met anybody at a cannabis leagalisation march that would make me want to legalise it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    There was talk of banning cheap alcohol from supermarkets.
    That probably does have bad impact, when cheap booze is readily available.

    Can't remember if it was France who started that, and England wanted to adopt it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭Savage Tyrant


    I wouldn't support the banning of alcohol. But I most certainly would support the banning of people who abuse alcohol from ever receiving organ transplants that are needed as a direct result of the abuse of alcohol.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 837 ✭✭✭whiteonion


    We should raise the drinking age to 21 in this country and also allow the shops to only sell it until 8pm and not at all on Sundays. I am not in favour of a total ban of alcohol at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    whiteonion wrote: »
    We should raise the drinking age to 21 in this country and also allow the shops to only sell it until 8pm and not at all on Sundays. I am not in favour of a total ban of alcohol at this stage.

    Raising the age limit wouldn't help in the slightest. Neither would controlling the selling. Irish people don't understand the ability to limit their drinking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    whiteonion wrote: »
    We should raise the drinking age to 21 in this country and also allow the shops to only sell it until 8pm and not at all on Sundays. I am not in favour of a total ban of alcohol at this stage.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    whiteonion wrote: »
    We should raise the drinking age to 21 in this country and also allow the shops to only sell it until 8pm and not at all on Sundays. I am not in favour of a total ban of alcohol at this stage.

    what would delaying sales hours do? that could only make people stock up and drink even more. 21 would be a bad move, it should probably be lowered if anything. if it wasnt a taboo with teens, it wouldnt be so tempting, and maybe theyd have a few beers instead of a shoulder of vodka in their back pocket.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    whiteonion wrote: »
    We should raise the drinking age to 21 in this country and also allow the shops to only sell it until 8pm and not at all on Sundays. I am not in favour of a total ban of alcohol at this stage.

    I'm old enough to remember "holy hour" on Sunday and it wasn't that long ago.
    Pubs didn't shut down but they turned off the lights and closed the doors

    Realy, whiteonion Ireland has had strict rules and it never ever worked


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    pmcmahon wrote: »
    to be honest,i don't think i have met anybody at a cannabis leagalisation march that would make me want to legalise it

    I've met plenty of people in practically every area of life that would make me want to make alcohol illegal. But I know those people don't represent your average drinker.


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