Beauty & The Feast

OutlawPete

New research suggest that:

Women would like handsome men to pay for the meal.

If they don't want you to pay, then that means they don't necessarily see things going anywhere.

Men are more likely to buy pretty women dinner.

Attractive women expect their date to pay for dinner because they're worth it.
Who's paying? The more attractive a man is the more women want him to pay for the date, researchers found.

She has spent hours on her hair and make up, bought a new outfit and done her nails. So perhaps it is only fair that her date should pay for dinner.

Pretty women are less likely than plain Janes to offer to contribute towards the bill on a first date, research shows.

But they are not worried about the expense - it is likely to be because they believe their date should pay for the pleasure of being with them, according to researchers at St Andrews University.

The intriguing finding comes from a study of 416 men and women who were asked to rate themselves for attractiveness, ahead of going on a series of hypothetical dates.

In each case, they were shown a picture of their ‘date’, told to imagine they had been for dinner together, and asked to decide who should pay for the meal.

They could decide to pay for the entire meal, nominate their date to pay or choose to split the bill.

The answers revealed that the good-looking women were less likely to want to contribute towards the costs. Handsome men were also reluctant to splash the cash.

Researcher Michael Stirrat said: ‘They quite literally bring more to the table, so they expect the other person to pick up the tab or expect to pay for the bill.’

Things, however, may change, if the man wants to impress.
The study, published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology, showed that a man is more willing to pay for a good-looking woman.

Dr Stirrat said: ‘When a man offers to pay for the meal he is to some extent saying “I’m interested, I’d like a second date, I’d like to see you again”.’

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Would you want a woman/man to pay for a meal on a date?

Would you prefer if to split the meal with an unattractive date but let an attractive one pay?

Do attractive people have it better in life in general?

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Seen a similar thread in the Ladies Lounge, there are a fair few women in there that expect the man to pay on the first date, then they pay on the second.:rolleyes:

Links234

you're obsessed, pete

Aoifey!

I wouldn't expect my meal to be paid for, but I'd like my meal to be paid for.

TeddyTedson

LUL @ Thread
I always try to pay but usually end up splitting it.
But as the night goes on I usually end up buying the majority of the drinks...
Does this mean I'm in?

eternal

Ive always been treated to dinner except for one miser I came across.Its not like I dont offer or anything
They only do it though so Ill shag them .

WindSock

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Seen a similar thread in the Ladies Lounge, there are a fair few women in there that expect the man to pay on the first date, then they pay on the second.:rolleyes:

Funny that, I noticed the vast majority in that thread didn't. Perceptions are a funny thing, eh..?

KeithM89_old

I dont mind paying as long as the half price vouchers i have are kept out of her sight...

Hank_Jones

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

eternal wrote: »

Ive always been treated to dinner except for one miser I came across.Its not like I dont offer or anything
They only do it though so Ill shag them .

Dinner?

Saila

The study, published in the journal Evolutionary Psychology, showed that a man is more willing to pay for a good-looking woman.

I should think so, its only the skanky prozzies for free

eternal

I dont just sleep with some one for free food.I get free food in work doesnt mean I shag the head chef /restaurnat owner etc.

Poor Craythur

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Seen a similar thread in the Ladies Lounge, there are a fair few women in there that expect the man to pay on the first date, then they pay on the second.:rolleyes:

And more who don't. Don't twist things. I guess you're savvy in how to get support in AH.

And some of us (ie me) said if the woman asked for the date, SHE should pay.

Hank_Jones

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Public poll?

Ahh Pete, now I look cheap.

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Poor Craythur wrote: »

And more who don't. Don't twist things. I guess you're savvy in how to get support in AH.

And some of us (ie me) said if the woman asked for the date, SHE should pay.

I said a fair few, that isn't twisting things.

Maybe try reading the thread and getting back to me.

Poor Craythur

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

I said a fair few, that isn't twisting things.

Maybe try reading the thread and getting back to me.

I have read the thread, there wasn't that many. :cool:

ascanbe

As some others have pointed out, there's a similar thread in the ladies lounge, right now; kinda interesting reading, though not really..
Women are, of course, going to say that they should pay their way in any given situation; of course, most don't actually mean that and will look unkindly on any male who would take that at face value.
I would never even talk about this with a girl in real life; but i can look at it from an academic point of view here, under the anonymity of the internet.
It's pointless to look at something like this from the point of view of 'fairness' or 'logic'; the world isn't fair, and logic, the often faulty logic of the human mind, has little play when it comes to emotion or basic biology. Women, for the most part, are still, no matter what many say, going to judge a man on certain criteria; willingness and ability to 'provide' being a key area.

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Poor Craythur wrote: »

I have read the thread, there wasn't that many. :cool:

There is a fair few though.:P

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Public poll?

Ahh Pete, now I look cheap.

Had to man, only way to tell the when people spoil their votes .. such as Windsock has on this occasion for instance.

Marwyn

I'm a woman and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the guy was attractive

I would rather go dutch whether I like the person or not, yes It would be nice to be offered that the guy pays for it, but Im too independant and would feel cheap and embarrassed.

bonerm

I'll buy her dinner but I make a rule of it that she's limited to choices from the Eurosaver menu only.

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

OutlawPete wrote: »

Had to man, only way to tell the when people spoil their votes .. such as Windsock has on this occasion for instance.

I was offended at the lack of Atari-jaguar.

ascanbe

Marwyn wrote: »

I would rather go dutch whether I like the person or not, yes It would be nice to be offered that the guy pays for it, but Im too independant and would feel cheap and embarrassed.

You say that; but, even in the case where it was a guy you really liked, unless you knew he was strapped for cash at the time of your 'date', if he didn't look to pick up the bill it would give you pause for thought.

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

I was offended at the lack of Atari-jaguar.

I figured adding a computer console would attract all the nerd votes and then we'd have no men who vote for the 'pay no matter what' option

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

OutlawPete wrote: »

I figured adding a computer console would attract all the nerd votes and then we'd have no men who vote for the 'pay no matter what' option

Yes, but would you pay for the console, or would she have to?

Super-Rush

What happens in TLL stays in TLL.

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Links234 wrote: »

you're obsessed, pete

With what may I ask, or this another nonsensical suggestion of misogyny for little or no reason.

The title of this thread is a unisex one, and my comments in the OP address BOTH sexes and to which I then posed the following three questions:

Would you want a woman/man to pay for a meal on a date?
Would you prefer if to split the meal with an unattractive date but let an attractive one pay?
Do attractive people have it better in life in general?

Do us all a favour and quit trying to turn this thread into something it is not, thanks.

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Careful pete, some of that might have been mentioned in the Sacred place that shall not be named.

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Careful pete, some of that might have been mentioned in the Sacred place that shall not be named.

Nope, all from the OP


Here's a female relationship coach with a somewhat controversial (yet perhaps relaistic) view on the issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS2Qas3_I2I

eternal

Ive never asked a guy out in my life ,what are these women desperate?

southsiderosie

These poll options suck.

eternal

southsiderosie wrote: »

These poll options suck.

Hey go back to work

southsiderosie

eternal wrote: »

Ive never asked a guy out in my life ,what are these women desperate?

Why should the guy always do the asking? This is part of the reason why dating is ridiculous in Ireland.

eternal wrote: »

Hey go back to work

LOL

eternal

I personally wouldnt ask anyone out cos I dont know if someone likes me until they actually throw themselves at me.Having lived in other countries ,I do agree Ireland is a joke and basically you have to wait till a guy has ten pints before anything happens .Most relationships are started on pure alcohol.
Id much rather someone chatted me up on the street or something .(which has happened elsewhere but not here)

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

southsiderosie wrote: »

These poll options suck.

What option were you looking for?

tigerblob

I'm a woman and would prefer it if the man paid for the meal but only if I found him attractive

I'm a woman and I would definitely expect the meal to be bought for me on the first few dates. Obviously this can't go on forever though, once we start going out or whatever I would pay my way.

stargazer 68

I never go out to dinner on a first date! A few beers or even a coffee in the afternoon is fine but dinner - nope!

kfallon

I always have bought it on the first date in the past, I wouldn't expect the lady to pay plus you want to make a good first impression.

However I hate going anywhere fancy to eat, does my nut, I'd rather just go for a few drinks, it makes it more relaxed!

Poor Craythur

Outlaw Pete, there are way too many options. Simplfy mmmmmaaaaan!

Dravokivich

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

tigerblob wrote: »

I'm a woman and I would definitely expect the meal to be bought for me on the first few dates. Obviously this can't go on forever though, once we start going out or whatever I would pay my way.

I honestly don't get where you are coming from here, wouldn't it make more sense to split the tab while trying to figure out in the first few dates if a relationship is on the cards?

Gunsfortoys

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Dravokivich wrote: »

I honestly don't get where you are coming from here, wouldn't it make more sense to split the tab while trying to figure out in the first few dates if a relationship is on the cards?

How else will she find out how much money the sap has got?:P

Dr. Feelgood

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal no matter what

aw CRAP public poll...

I'd prefer to go dutch but I won't say "no matter what"- if they really insist on paying I won't say no after I've made a couple of offers.
I'd still prefer to at least get them a drink or something after as a thank you

I think most of my first dates have been movies anyway so it's easy to go halves on tickets vs food

Ruu_Old

If I use the buy one, get one free for my date at McD's is that considered as me paying?

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

Poor Craythur wrote: »

Outlaw Pete, there are way too many options. Simplfy mmmmmaaaaan!

One woman says there are not enough, another that there are too many.

Any takers on the right amount?

Kimono-Girl

I'm a woman and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the guy was attractive

i would insist on going half, my partner insisted on paying on our first date, in the end we went half, there's nothing worse then a guy who insists on paying for everything, a relationship should be equal i had a boyfriend who did that once,there's nothing worse then being put on a pedestal imo.

equal rights = equal responsibilities, women should be treated as equals and that means 50/50 payment.

it's about time certain women woke up and realised they are not princesses to be wined and dined by men.

Rocket19

I'm a woman and would prefer it if the man paid for the meal but only if I found him attractive

I can't believe the amount of girls saying they'd insist on going dutch. Seriously? On a first date?

I would expect a guy to pay. I would never be as assuming as to not bring money or anything, and I'd always sorta offer to pay, but I'd be shocked if a guy actually let me.
It wouldn't be a deal-breaker or anything - if I really liked the guy - but I'd definitely come away thinking he was a bit tight.

I've never actually been in a situation where a guy has expected me to pay half. I kinda thought most guys would insist on paying and are happy to pay. Obviously this doesn't apply in a relationship or anything like that!

Also, if I didn't fancy a guy, I wouldn't let him buy anything for me. Why would you be on a date with someone you didn't find attractive though? I've been in college where guys (friends) have offered to buy me coffee, etc, when we just happen to be in the coffee shop. I'd always, always say no though. I would only let a guy buy me something if I was interested in him. Same reason why I decline drinks from guys in bars unless I fancy them (something my friends go mad at me over ). No need to cause confusion lol.

southsiderosie

OutlawPete wrote: »

What option were you looking for?

The options are too absolute.

TheZohanS

If I invited someone out for dinner I'd pay for it. Normally, when in a relationship, we take turns at buying dinner. What I can't stand is someone that is too stingy to do rounds when we're out drinking. Have been on two dates ever where my date didn't even offer to buy me a drink, I didn't invite them out on a second date. Stingy bitches!

If you pay for all your dates meals and drinks and you end up sleeping with her that just makes her a hooker, and I'll be damned if I'm going to degrade a woman like that!

OutlawPete

I'm a man and would prefer to pay for the meal but only if the woman was attractive

southsiderosie wrote: »

The options are too absolute.

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Have you ever visited or lived in the US?

starbelgrade wrote: »

The poll is flawed in that it only asks if people have been to the US without taking into account their views on America & Americans.

southsiderosie wrote: »

.. polls are a bit of a blunt instrument ..

fkiely

I'll always pay the full amount unless the girl was completely adamant on paying half. But even then I'd still kick up a fuss I'd imagine. I'm of the mantra that the guy should always pay for the first date at least.

southsiderosie

OutlawPete wrote: »

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Have you ever visited or lived in the US?

Yeah, you have or have not been to the US is pretty straightforward. But paying may be contextual, and not in the way that you've construed here. I'm just going to repost something I said before:

southsiderosie wrote: »

Every situation is different. I dated a guy for a while who I knew made over two times what I did. He always wanted to go out to eat, was very picky about the place, and liked to order full bottles of wine. Yet we always went Dutch. I finally had to tell him flat out we had to see less of each other, go to cheaper places, or stay in more because I couldn't afford these full-blown nights out 2-3 times a week. That relationship didn't last, and although we are friends now, I feel perfectly comfortable saying that he was and is a total cheapskate...except when it comes to wine and pot. :rolleyes:

The guy I dated after him always insisted on paying, and even when I tried to buy rounds, would usually intervene (and TBH I couldn't keep up with his drinking anyway). So every now and then I would show up for dates with a new book for him, not necessarily as a quid pro quo, but rather because I liked him and wanted to show that I appreciated the fact that he regularly took a broke student to nice restaurants and wonderful plays and other things that I could never do on my own.

So I guess this is a long way of saying that I don't think there are hard and fast rules, but every situation is contextual, and being able to read the context properly is the key to not alienating or embarrassing the other person.