"Irish" Products No Longer Made Here.

Aussie Sean

How many Irish products are no longer made here? Lyons tea and HB ice cream are both done by Unilever in the UK,Jacobs biscuits made in the UK and I noticed the other day that Charliville and Calvita Cheese are produced up North. Sign of the times I suppose,but I'm sure a lot of people buy them believing them to be Irish.

Hande hoche!

Tis the same with Boyne valley and Fruitfield marmelade.

Mint Sauce

Aussie Sean wrote: »

How many Irish products are no longer made here? Lyons tea and HB ice cream are both done by Unilever in the UK,Jacobs biscuits made in the UK and I noticed the other day that Charliville and Calvita Cheese are produced up North. Sign of the times I suppose,but I'm sure a lot of people buy them believing them to be Irish.

Can. Open. Worms. Everywhere.

CreepingDeath

irish-stew wrote: »

Can. Open. Worms. Everywhere.

Are you saying they put worms in our food ?

Mint Sauce

CreepingDeath wrote: »

Are you saying they put worms in our food ?

Only the canned varaity.

Aussie Sean

irish-stew wrote: »

Can. Open. Worms. Everywhere.

LOL,thought that might pop up.We can claim the Six Counties as much as we like,but when it comes to business it is the British Economy that benefits.

Mint Sauce

Aussie Sean wrote: »

LOL,thought that might pop up.We can claim the Six Counties as much as we like,but when it comes to business it is the British Economy that benefits.

You mean the UK Economy. Britians a seperate Island.

ejmaztec

Donegal Catch used to be Irish-owned, but then got bought out by the U.K.'s Northern Foods. I'm a bit confused as to the nationality of the dead fish.

Hande hoche!

ejmaztec wrote: »

Donegal Catch used to be Irish-owned, but then got bought out by the U.K.'s Northern Foods. I'm a bit confused as to the nationality of the dead fish.

Some are caught in Irish waters and some in New Zealand.

Colilfc

Golly Bars :pac:

squod

Dubarry shoes and fruit of the loom t-shirts AFAIK

Hande hoche!

squod wrote: »

Dubarry shoes and fruit of the loom t-shirts AFAIK

Interesting seems the shoes are now made in Portugal.

Aussie Sean

irish-stew wrote: »

You mean the UK Economy. Britians a seperate Island.

I stand corrected

Mike 1972

ejmaztec wrote: »

Donegal Catch used to be Irish-owned, but then got bought out by the U.K.'s Northern Foods. I'm a bit confused as to the nationality of the dead fish.

Daftest thing I ever saw was fish caught in Scotland. Packed in Poland only to be shipped back to the UK and sold in a shop called "Iceland"

Do fish have nationality though I mean the waters in which they were caught are not nexessairly those in which they were spawned. They might even have been caught on the high seas.

PogMoThoin

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Some are caught in Irish waters and some in New Zealand.

Yeah, and some in Peru and Chile, none in Ireland, nothing to do with Ireland

Peruvian Catch sounds good tho

Hande hoche!

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Yeah, and some in Peru and Chile, none in Ireland, nothing to do with Ireland

Peruvian Catch sounds good tho

Catch was a poor choice of words but is some of their salmon not farmed in Ireland along with Scotland ?

iPlop

Aussie Sean wrote: »

How many Irish products are no longer made here? Lyons tea and HB ice cream are both done by Unilever in the UK,Jacobs biscuits made in the UK and I noticed the other day that Charliville and Calvita Cheese are produced up North. Sign of the times I suppose,but I'm sure a lot of people buy them believing them to be Irish.

The Jacobs biscuit lines were transferred not only to the UK but all over eastern europe.Certain biscuit lines went to Manchester and others went to Poland ,Slovakia and places like that, some stuff even went to Malta.Jacobs was safe when Danone owned them.

As soon as fruitfield took over they couldn't wait to outsource everything

mike65

Waterford Crystal.....though to be fair I'm not sure how many consumers outside Ireland really knew where it was made so it being produced in Germany and Croatia means little really. Except for the loss of thousands of jobs here of course.

Stinicker

I heard recently they make Guinness in Nigeria, I lol'd!

iPlop

Stinicker wrote: »

I heard recently they make Guinness in Nigeria, I lol'd!

One of the biggest Guinness brewerys is in Nigeria and it's the only place left that they can advertise "Guinness is good for you"

mike65

Stinicker wrote: »

I heard recently they make Guinness in Nigeria, I lol'd!

Welcome to 1962

ejmaztec

Ford cars:D

ejmaztec

The Kerryman newspaper, and I expect a lot more regional rags are printed in the North as well.

Another empty Tralee factory.

Corsendonk

Chef Sauce, both brown and red. Like the biscuits Fruitfield outsourced throughout Europe, Scots Clans too and Z Candy(Cool Pops etc) moved to Poland awhile back.

ballsymchugh

The Incredible Fridge wrote: »

One of the biggest Guinness brewerys is in Nigeria and it's the only place left that they can advertise "Guinness is good for you"

it is the biggest brewery alright. but that's guinness for the rest of the world. guinness is still brewed in dublin for irish and uk market. they closed their british brewery a few years ago.

shouldn't some of the things mentioned come under those laws that say certain things can only be made in the area that gives it's name to it, like champagne? stuff made anywhere else has to be called sparkling wine.

brightspark

"Erin Soup" AFAIK it's now made in Kent,

Erin gravy and some sauces might be still Irish made though.

suicide_circus

Sucra.
Sugar beet is no longer grown here and the processing plant closed. Its just a brand name now.

byhookorbycrook

Talks of re-opening one of the sugar plants.
Am I right in saying Galtee is no longer Irish?

Corsendonk

ballsymchugh wrote: »

shouldn't some of the things mentioned come under those laws that say certain things can only be made in the area that gives it's name to it, like champagne? stuff made anywhere else has to be called sparkling wine.

Yes your right but a group of producers need to apply for protection of the product and say what makes it unique. Ireland has only applied and been approved for 4 food products.

Corsendonk

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Talks of re-opening one of the sugar plants.
Am I right in saying Galtee is no longer Irish?

Wrong, they are still Dairygold, they tried selling the brand to the Kerry Group but I think the government blocked it. During the pork dioxins they found out that Galtee used imported Pork from Holland/Denmark.

brightspark

Corsendonk wrote: »

Yes your right but a group of producers need to apply for protection of the product and say what makes it unique. Ireland has only applied and been approved for 4 food products.

In the case of products like 'Charleville Cheese' and 'Erin soups' the producer owns the brand name anyway and would not actually benefit by having the production site limited to the original production facility (that's if it ever was!).


But I wonder does the 'Charleville cheese advert' with the people dancing on the floor making cheese contravene the ASAI rules by implying that it is made in Charleville? Perhaps a few complaints to the ASAI are needed.

up for anything

irish-stew wrote: »

Can. Open. Worms. Everywhere.

Only Irish worms canned in Ireland, I hope.

There's a place owned by a famous hurler's brother that produces hurleys which are sourced from Polish wood and 'carved' in Poland and sent back here for the metal bands to be put on them. I would have thought that hurleys should only be made from Irish ash in Ireland.

admiralofthefleet

sugar. thanks to mary coughlan for selling the industry down the tubes

Corsendonk

brightspark wrote: »

But I wonder does the 'Charleville cheese advert' with the people dancing on the floor making cheese contravene the ASAI rules by implying that it is made in Charleville? Perhaps a few complaints to the ASAI are needed.

Lyons all talk tea adds as well. Notice how all the tea blenders in the add have Irish accents.

Do they not still manufacture cheese in charleville but send the cheese to be sliced to another site? The same way Wexford cheese went to the UK to be sliced and then imported back in smaller consumer blocks.

Faith+1

Irish football jerseys were made here at one stage. I think they're made in China or Vietnam now.

Saermegil

What are the protected products of Ireland?

Also I haven't seen any stickers or logos advertising "Made in Ireland" That could be a big draw for people that wanna buy Irish. I always try to do so...

Corsendonk

Saermegil wrote: »

What are the protected products of Ireland?

Also I haven't seen any stickers or logos advertising "Made in Ireland" That could be a big draw for people that wanna buy Irish. I always try to do so...

I did a thread on European Protected products of Ireland. The current protected products are in the link.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68760687

jimmycrackcorm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Some are caught in Irish waters and some in New Zealand.

Evidence of how much this country has been affected by emigration - It's a long way to swim to New Zealand....

I understood boyne valley is still made here?

coco0981

brightspark wrote: »

"Erin Soup" AFAIK it's now made in Kent,

Erin gravy and some sauces might be still Irish made though.

Your right, soups produced by premier foods in the uk, all other erin products made by batchelors in cabra, dublin

coco0981

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Capt'n Midnight

Corsendonk wrote: »

Scots Clans too

Not made in Ireland :eek:

longhalloween

bluewolf wrote: »

I understood boyne valley is still made here?

Theres a factory in Drogheda.

Fart

coco1981 wrote: »

Your right, soups produced by premier foods in the uk, all other erin products made by batchelors in cabra, dublin

So true that you had to say it twice.

Capt'n Midnight

up for anything wrote: »

Only Irish worms canned in Ireland, I hope.

There's a place owned by a famous hurler's brother that produces hurleys which are sourced from Polish wood and 'carved' in Poland and sent back here for the metal bands to be put on them. I would have thought that hurleys should only be made from Irish ash in Ireland.

the guaranteed irish logo applies when at least 40% of the value is added in Ireland

if you include packaging and the higher cost of irish labour then many products could easily be greenwashed

wonderfulname

Saermegil wrote: »

Also I haven't seen any stickers or logos advertising "Made in Ireland" That could be a big draw for people that wanna buy Irish. I always try to do so...

Try "Made in the Republic of Ireland", There are all sorts of products marketed as Irish but they're coming down from the north. Marks and Spencers is an interesting shop to wander around here, they try to emphasise how "Irish" some of their products are because they're marketing to Irish people but if you look at the small print its all from the north, but of course where else would it be from?

Coriolanus

Who gives a ****? If the shít (and I notice most of the brands mentioned have been shít for as long as I remember, well before they were moved out of the country) was still made here it would be twice the price and we'd have the unions with an extra excuse to strike whenever the company wanted to bring in new equipment, or change how much sugar to add to ginger nuts. :rolleyes:

Stinicker

wonderfulname wrote: »

Try "Made in the Republic of Ireland", There are all sorts of products marketed as Irish but they're coming down from the north. Marks and Spencers is an interesting shop to wander around here, they try to emphasise how "Irish" some of their products are because they're marketing to Irish people but if you look at the small print its all from the north, but of course where else would it be from?

Northern Ireland is Irish, many people from the ROI work in NI and vice versa, I have no problem supporting a Northern Irish product and would give it preference to something manufactured elsewhere. The north is not some foreign entity which we are totally cut off from you know and they have been equally effected by the ROI's economic collapse, more proportionately effected so compared to other parts of the United Kingdom.

Milk from the north is not English milk!

wonderfulname

Milk from the north is not supporting Irish dairy farmers, The companies involved are not paying taxes to our government, for use on our infrastructure, buying a product produced in the north is not the same as buying one produced in the republic.

Stinicker

wonderfulname wrote: »

Milk from the north is not supporting Irish dairy farmers, The companies involved are not paying taxes to our government, for use on our infrastructure, buying a product produced in the north is not the same as buying one produced in the republic.

It is supporting Northern Irish Dairy farmers though, well we all pay the same VAT (13.5% on food right)? So I can't see much of a difference, other than that milk from Antrim has more food miles than Milk from the Golden Vale of Tipperary.

lil'bug

as far as I know Fleetwood/sherwin Williams paint is Irish factory in Cavan, so are Dosco Brushes and Dulux paint is produced in cork