Speaking North Co Dublinise

Corsendonk

A bit of a fun thread, as anyone that has moved to NCD will have noticed that NCD natives have a unique Dublin accent and expression of words. I know when I used the word "rake " in conversation with dubs from other parts they look at me if I have two heads. So has anyone got more examples?


www.oldskerries.ie
Local Expressions in Skerries

1 . . Blow-in = one who visits Skerries casually and decides to remain.

2 . . Out-come-airs = tripper.

3 . . I'm falling out of my standing with the hunger.

4 . . He`s cut on the bias = In a bad humour.

5 . . Refugees = those who come down in the world and
settle in Skerries.
6 . . It put no seam on me = Doesn`t worry me.

7 . . Eye-oppenses = Smart-alecs.

8 . . Wydoes (or chancers) = irresponsible persons.

9 . . There's no blinding in her = couldn't be cheated.

10 Highflier = spendthrift

11 Barney = one who won't himself to be cheated.

12 She's dangerous = ugly beyond hope of improvement

13 He's bunking = kicking the door in temper.

14 An empty sack can't stand, but a full one can't bend.

15 I'm so mad I could tear paper

Jimdagym

Well I never heard "Go boil your head (in a biscuit tin)" untill I moved to balbriggan. "Our lad" is another.

TangyZizzle

Our, Our lad, Our wan etc. Never heard any of them before I started attending my course in the Brigg this past September. Admittedly Iv only heard one from that list.

cathy01

When I moved to Balbriggan, I noticed that everyone had a nick name that began with THE..The rooney, The Gaffers, and EVERYONE ..EVERYONE answered to our.If you forgot anyones name you just say Hi Our and they answered you.It was a blessing for me, as somedays I even forget my own name.:D

Corsendonk

cathy01 wrote: »

When I moved to Balbriggan, I noticed that everyone had a nick name that began with THE..The rooney, The Gaffers, and EVERYONE ..EVERYONE answered to our.If you forgot anyones name you just say Hi Our and they answered you.It was a blessing for me, as somedays I even forget my own name.:D

Lol yeah I noticed "The" before the nicknames when I watched the Balbriggan films I just posted in another thread here.

Frank Spencer

I detest the use of "Our Lad" or any variation of it.

Corsendonk

Frank Spencer wrote: »

I detest the use of "Our Lad" or any variation of it.

It sounds a very north of England phrase, I wonder did it come from all the english factories in Balbriggan in the early 1900s.

Beasty

Corsendonk wrote: »

It sounds a very north of England phrase, I wonder did it come from all the english factories in Balbriggan in the early 1900s.

Interestingly, when I was looking at some of my primary school work (from the 1960s:eek:) I was amazed to see I referred quite regularly to my sister as "Our lass", and when I think about it, it certainly was a very common expression in North Yorkshire at the time. "Our lad" is not a term I particularly recall though

yknaa

Frank Spencer wrote: »

I detest the use of "Our Lad" or any variation of it.

Totally agree. The main difference between Dublin-speak and country-speak boils down to 2 letters - O and Y

Example

Deco/Deccy
Philo/Philly
Mico/Mickey
;-) Could be onto something here

Hauk

"Around the head" - To walk around Red Island.

Corsendonk

Hauk wrote: »

"Around the head" - To walk around Red Island.

Same expression is used in Rush- To walk from the south beach to Rush Harbour via the rocks. We breed them tougher here:D

Octopus

Hauk wrote: »

"Around the head" - To walk around Red Island.

To go from Clonard Street to Vauxhall street along where the waterfall is in Balbriggan is 'across the head'

Octopus

cathy01 wrote: »

When I moved to Balbriggan, I noticed that everyone had a nick name that began with THE..The rooney, The Gaffers, and EVERYONE ..EVERYONE answered to our.If you forgot anyones name you just say Hi Our and they answered you.It was a blessing for me, as somedays I even forget my own name.:D

Balbriggan nicknames
http://www.balbriggan.net/nicknames.htm

Uriel.

It's funny, I have lived in Swords for almost my entire life and I have to admit I have never heard any of the terms of phrase mentioned in the OP.

Must be a North of Swords NCD thing or something, lol :pac:

Martron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8c8aBWCbtc

Corsendonk

Octopus wrote: »

Balbriggan nicknames
http://www.balbriggan.net/nicknames.htm

Lol Some very inventive nicknames.

Sid_Justice

The people that live north of Swords are a different species practically.

The Hill Billy

Sid - I'd click the ban button on you if only my webbed hands could use the keyboard.

Chinafoot

Octopus wrote: »

Balbriggan nicknames
http://www.balbriggan.net/nicknames.htm

My dad and aunt are both there

Corsendonk

Chinafoot wrote: »

My dad and aunt are both there

Nicknames do get passed down in families:)

cathy01

My Friend , the Major Collins gave this poem and knows that Im putting it on the site.Hope its ok, but its very interesting.
A town of NickNames

I walk the street of my town
& here is what I see,
The Buckshot with his banjo & the Dozer singing free
I spy the Ma McKewon
Her stocking wrinkling down
Dishing out the chips,
On the square she was found

I came upon the Didlier
The Jip with his bike
The Whistler Lacey smoking,
The dregs of someones butt
I meet with Ritchie Collins
A bell man carrying slack
The Gub Corcoran horse & cart,
Picking up the trash.
I met the Billa Costello
On the square selling fish
The Jemmer roaring loud,
‘Get away you son of a bitch’

I spied Kathy Dunne
Ambling across the Canal
She was heading for the town hall
A tongue that would clip a hedge
& there within the town hall,
the hops on Saturday night,
the invasion of the Scotsmen
The local girls delight

There was nick names like the Rainbow,
Dingo & the Fobs, Gunchie & the Nailer
The Cla & the Blobs
Their was the Sycky & the Dab
The Elk was local too
The Budgie & the Smythco to name but a few

Their was Scratch & the Skinner
Leather & the Cru, the Cheyenne & the Jobber
& these are all true
There was Perky & the Minne
The Sailor & the Jams
The Golly & the Drummer
All behave like lambs

There was Bootsie & the Colando
The Whacker & the Spud
the Binky & the Blarey all stalking in the wood
there was Puddners & the Bilko
the Frosty & the Slick,
there was other fancy names like just plain Dick

Alas but many some have had their day
Now their sons & daughter carry on the fray
Christened in the church, pomp & regalia given names,
The locals like to abbreviate & shorten to the insane

Major 09 ©
March 2009

cbreeze

The accents are different too. 'Road' is pronounced 'ro-ad' like it had two syllables.

LeoB

N.C.D is a great spot for sayings but I have never heard so many nicknames since I started working in Balbriggan

"The wawa", "Bunive", Sprocket, Steaky, "The Cag"

As for the sayings I think a lot of them are are quite common but just cchanged from area to area.

Bright and useless, like an inland lighthouse
As useful as tits on a bull
shocking ugly
The tide would not take her out......
These are all fairly common around the place but I dont hear many young people using them now.

There is alwso a great talent out in N.C.D for putting a right cutting edge into a sentence, hense the saying "a tongue like a chisel" or "a paint scraper.

LeoB

Sid_Justice wrote: »

The people that live north of Swords are a different species practically.

Agree 100% Its called Class:D

cbreeze wrote: »

The accents are different too. 'Road' is pronounced 'ro-ad' like it had two syllables.

School = Sch wel
Potholes = Pothow les

I think this is more west of Old Dublin - Belfast Rd. It is also in the tone and speed at which people talk.

Chinafoot

Corsendonk wrote: »

Nicknames do get passed down in families:)

Different families in this case. My dad is the Mito Reilly and my aunt is the Bisto Kelly.

tatli_lokma

Our lad is more usually (for real balbriggan folk) turned into 'ow-wer' as in 'howa-ya ow-wer'.
another one I never heard til I came to balbriggan was 'qware wan' (queer one) when referring to ones better half. This is the qware wan.

or when something is bad/awful/not nice 'thats cat'

I think the genuine balbriggan accent is a mix of Dub and Drogheda, which can only be described as a strange one!

Chinafoot

Little Ted wrote: »

or when something is bad/awful/not nice 'thats cat'

My boyfriend is from Limerick and had no idea what I meant the first time he heard me say it. He still laughs at me when I say something is cat.

I think 'geebag' is quite NCD too

tatli_lokma

Chinafoot wrote: »

I think 'geebag' is quite NCD too

oh god, I hate that expression with a passion :mad:
although I would venture that it is more a North Dublin City phrase than county Dublin - I would say that this is 'skanger-ese' rather than NCD-ese!

Chinafoot

Little Ted wrote: »

oh god, I hate that expression with a passion :mad:
although I would venture that it is more a North Dublin City phrase than county Dublin - I would say that this is 'skanger-ese' rather than NCD-ese!

Hehe, I love it tbh. My sister uses a variation of it and calls people "gee-ers".

tatli_lokma

going out on the lash and getting gee-eyed?

god, this language is cat

LeoB

Little Ted wrote: »

going out on the lash and getting gee-eyed?

god, this language is cat

Buckled was also quite common term for someone who was fairly full

As many will be aware there is a great turn of phrase to be heard from quite a few N.C.D'rs. I heard a lad describe how he got on with a girl the previous night..... Says he,without batting an eyelid and taking a sip from a curer, "She wont be pregnant anyway", "It was like trying to play snooker with a rope"

briany

Hard to really know where these sayings begin and end geographically of course but anyway....

I like "D'lad" in referring to someone i.e. D'Brian lad etc. or a variation on that - "D'young chap". Used to hear my father referring to someone from his work by that nickname even though the guy would have been around 40 then. I suppose it was just a name he got when he started and it stuck.

Bracken81

Class little poem

cathy01 wrote: »

I walk the street of my town
& here is what I see,
The Buckshot with his banjo & the Dozer singing free
I spy the Ma McKewon
Her stocking wrinkling down
Dishing out the chips,
On the square she was found

I came upon the Didlier
The Jip with his bike
The Whistler Lacey smoking,
The dregs of someones butt
I meet with Ritchie Collins
A bell man carrying slack
The Gub Corcoran horse & cart,
Picking up the trash.
I met the Billa Costello
On the square selling fish
The Jemmer roaring loud,
‘Get away you son of a bitch’

I spied Kathy Dunne
Ambling across the Canal
She was heading for the town hall
A tongue that would clip a hedge
& there within the town hall,
the hops on Saturday night,
the invasion of the Scotsmen
The local girls delight

There was nick names like the Rainbow,
Dingo & the Fobs, Gunchie & the Nailer
The Cla & the Blobs
Their was the Sycky & the Dab
The Elk was local too
The Budgie & the Smythco to name but a few

Their was Scratch & the Skinner
Leather & the Cru, the Cheyenne & the Jobber
& these are all true
There was Perky & the Minne
The Sailor & the Jams
The Golly & the Drummer
All behave like lambs

There was Bootsie & the Colando
The Whacker & the Spud
the Binky & the Blarey all stalking in the wood
there was Puddners & the Bilko
the Frosty & the Slick,
there was other fancy names like just plain Dick

Alas but many some have had their day
Now their sons & daughter carry on the fray
Christened in the church, pomp & regalia given names,
The locals like to abbreviate & shorten to the insane

Major 09 ©
March 2009

DougalZ

cbreeze wrote: »

The accents are different too. 'Road' is pronounced 'ro-ad' like it had two syllables.

lol. Or Mo-wen for moon, and sp-wen for spoon. Also replacing the word those with 'thems', '"thems ones over there"

Duzzer

What about people saying "alright chap" or "eh lad"

Calling women "wans", so a lad could say he was out in a nightclub last night and there was some load of "wans" there

Chinafoot

DougalZ wrote: »

lol. Or Mo-wen for moon, and sp-wen for spoon. Also replacing the word those with 'thems', '"thems ones over there"

I can honestly say that I have never heard anyone who is actually from balbriggan speak like that, with the exception of some teenagers who think its cool to have a north inner city accent. And I say that as someone who's great grandparents, possibly further back, were from the area.

Wishbone Ash

Little Ted wrote: »

another one I never heard til I came to balbriggan was 'qware wan' (queer one) when referring to ones better half. This is the qware wan.

That's also a very popular expression in Co Louth.

Little Ted wrote:

or when something is bad/awful/not nice 'thats cat'

Chinafoot wrote: »

My boyfriend is from Limerick and had no idea what I meant the first time he heard me say it. He still laughs at me when I say something is cat

That's used all over the country. I'm surprised your boyfriend hasn't heard it as my wife is from Limerick and I've often heard it down there. My father (Co Donegal) uses the longer version - "catmelodeon" (pronounced "catmelogin") all the time especially concerning weather or poor play at GAA matches.

One thing I've only ever heard around Rush is "It's wet got" - when it has begun to rain.

cbreeze

Duzzer wrote: »

What about people saying "alright chap" or "eh lad"

Calling women "wans", so a lad could say he was out in a nightclub last night and there was some load of "wans" there

Used to be a fisherman in Loughshinny called 'The Duzzer' [Rogan] - any relation?

Duzzer

cbreeze wrote: »

Used to be a fisherman in Loughshinny called 'The Duzzer' [Rogan] - any relation?

No, just that the Duzzer was a bit of a legend in Loughshinny so I took that as my user name.

Chinafoot

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

That's used all over the country. I'm surprised your boyfriend hasn't heard it as my wife is from Limerick and I've often heard it down there. My father (Co Donegal) uses the longer version - "catmelodeon" (pronounced "catmelogin") all the time especially concerning weather or poor play at GAA matches.

*shrug* He's from the "country" in Limerick

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

One thing I've only ever heard around Rush is "It's wet got" - when it has begun to rain.

My friend from Tallaght says that.

LeoB

cbreeze wrote: »

Used to be a fisherman in Loughshinny called 'The Duzzer' [Rogan] - any relation?

He was a fine footballer if it was Duzzer aka Padraig. Went to London back in the mid 80s Is he back about Loughshinny?

DougalZ

LeoB wrote: »

He was a fine footballer if it was Duzzer aka Padraig. Went to London back in the mid 80s Is he back about Loughshinny?

Yeap indeed he is.

Duzzer

Im talking about the original Duzzer. The younger Duzzer was a good footballer though.

vektarman

Not forgetting of course that North County Dublin once had it's own language, Fingallian. Link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingalian

tatli_lokma

Chinafoot wrote: »

I can honestly say that I have never heard anyone who is actually from balbriggan speak like that, with the exception of some teenagers who think its cool to have a north inner city accent. And I say that as someone who's great grandparents, possibly further back, were from the area.

I can honestly say that I HAVE heard people split their syllables in Balbriggan, and my grandparents were also from the briggan.
I know what you mean about north inner city, but the way they split their syllables is different.

cbreeze

I remember people pronouncing Holmpatrick by saying Holl em patrick, rather than rhyming with home

TangyZizzle

cbreeze wrote: »

I remember people pronouncing Holmpatrick by saying Holl em patrick, rather than rhyming with home

Almost akin to saying Malahide Deh - mez - knee/Deh - mezn.

No?

Ok I was a stupid child.

Chinafoot

Little Ted wrote: »

I can honestly say that I HAVE heard people split their syllables in Balbriggan, and my grandparents were also from the briggan.
I know what you mean about north inner city, but the way they split their syllables is different.

I didn't say people in Balbriggan don't split their syllables. The most obvious example is when they call people "our" and pronounce it "ow-er" However, when they say "our lad", most don't say "ow-er lad" and it often sounds like "aarr lad". However, I disagree that people say "sp-wen" or "Mo-wen" and those pronounciations are far more likely to be found in the inner city.

Also, my comment was more specifically directed at DougalZ example of "thems ones over there." I have never in my life heard that in Balbriggan.

PaulD77

Good few friends from the Lougher. They would always use 'Lad' at the end of a sentence. Think its fairly common in Rush too

Corsendonk

I came across a list of Rush Nicknames of the charactors of Rush from Niall Weldon "Sand in my Shoes". Well recommended to anyone interested in Rush and its history. I added corrections in brackets.

Extract from Sand in my Shoes.

Sky Thorne
Hawk Flynn
Bear McCann
Muckers Austin
Twine Kelly
Bottles McCann
Snuggles Fagan
Budner Landy
Scut Leonard
Bruds Butterly
Guts McMahon
Buck McCann
Coffee Harford
Blah Forde
Tee Carrick
Nux Mathews(pronounced in Rushian as Matters)
Boggy Smith
Dozer Kelly
Crow Weldon
Rookser Newcomen
Buff McGuinness
Bun Taylor
Baker Foley
Two Doherty Brothers called Duckers and Putters(I believe this is an error, their surname was Herbert)
Smuts Leonard
Tom the Lug, no surname given
Wiry Harford
Weasel Brien
Swadge Plunkett
Snookers Lynch
Dodge Toner
Grizzler Fynes
Bock Jones
Hardset Kelly
Bawman Harford
Gusty Greene
Horsey Clarke

LeoB

You dragged up a few memories there.

I remember Duckers and Putters (thought they were Monks). I could be well mixed up with 2 ladies who lived in the Mall and used to get a lift up to mass with Jem Mackey and Mary Jo. A few other also, Sky Thorne and Hawk Flynn one of the last to use a horse on the farm, well in his field down the Brook lane opposite Eurospar. I was actually talking to Wiry Harfords son this evening.

Is the Snuggles Fagan you mention he of the old Fagans shop? Sluggers we used to call him. Muckers Austin father of Michael "Muck"

Do you remember Mrs. Keevey in her caravan opposite where the credit union is now? There was a big wheel on one end and it was said if you turned this wheel you would capsise her out of bed and needless to say on my way from School one day I tried it only for her to be behind me saying "Im Long up" Its fair to say I nearly s**t myself and never tried that again

Heck Weldon the postman
Redner the roadsweep
Danser McCann
Pipes Bentley
Beamser Devine
Longers aand Johners, brothers of Rookser Newcomen

I know a few other names but will not post them for fear of a stray bullet hitting my van over the next day or two.

Names dont seem to be handed down around here like they used to be, unlike other areas.

The swan, Pullit, Hen, Spaker, Poision dwarf, Doot Knight.....

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