F1 2011 from Codemasters

G-Money

Pretty surprised to see a new/updated version out so soon. Is this normal for racing sims?

http://community.codemasters.com/forum/f1-2010-game-1316/459535-f1-2011-coming-september.html

brian plank

sbk? moto gp? up to a few years ago there was an annual f1 game too.

Flashdean

Ha i only bought 2010 last week!! Oh well!!

4ndroid

Think this will be worth gettin if you have F12010?

brian plank

4ndroid wrote: »

Think this will be worth gettin if you have F12010?

wait and see if they fixed or even added proper ai. 2010 is good if your into time trialing or demolition derby online but single player is unplayable.

4ndroid

Yeah the bugs are a pain. Wish they'd add more tracks too rather than just the circuits for that season.

DarC_Kn1ght

Safty Car Confirmed!!

Oasis_Dublin

Looks like it is going to be very good. Safety Car also confirmed, which should be a nice touch. AI at the harder levels seems to be far more realistic than last year.

Frank Bullitt

Its looking quite well indeed.

Dcully

Yawn ! F1 2010 was a pile of crap,the game had an endless list if issues, they promised extensive patching for months,it never came but they promised it over and over.
Eventually when people stopped expecting patches they announce a new game, FFS fix the other one first morons.
Anything that has Anthony Davidson crap talking it up is usually exactly that - crap talking.

freestyla

F1 2010 crap?? I played 2 seasons and can tell the best racing game ever, at least what comes to car handling and idea of racing weekends, time trial is great etc. I also didn't experience any bugs.. playing on PC.

AI at the Legend level is very good, puts you some challenge BUT it still could be harder on dry tracks.

Oh yea just need to download better cockpit camera for more realistic view
http://www.racedepartment.com/dlcat-f1-2010-rddev-mods-69/

Well I m not hard core player to know other games and all good stuff there and to be able to compare to F1 2010 if it's missing some "awesome" feature but handling and sense of speed are the most important in driving and I think 2010 is all about that, also engine noise!

Last time I played proper F1 game was F1 2000 so yes I was waiting "few" years for smthg like 2010.

brian plank

freestyla wrote: »

F1 2010 crap?? I played 2 seasons and can tell the best racing game ever, at least what comes to car handling and idea of racing weekends, time trial is great etc. I also didn't experience any bugs.. playing on PC.

i find it hard to believe you didn't experience any bugs. the handling seems good because its forgiving and fairly unrealistic. the proof is in the fact that its quicker to just run with the lowest downforce setting on every track.

i still think its a good game but i prefer time trial to career mode anyway.

freestyla

brian plank wrote: »

i find it hard to believe you didn't experience any bugs. the handling seems good because its forgiving and fairly unrealistic. the proof is in the fact that its quicker to just run with the lowest downforce setting on every track.

i still think its a good game but i prefer time trial to career mode anyway.

Time trial is the best mode alright but I seriously didn't experience any bugs.

The only bugs I experienced is with my racing engineer who seems talking rubbish from time to time but that's not smthg affecting actual driving thrill.

IF you run full sim mode, IT IS HARD racing seriously. You don't win easily if at all until you progress to middle pack teams.
Tires are at their best just for few laps where you can dominate a bit but then you have to defend a lot few laps before going to change them.

Handling is fantastic.. but Im using keyboard so I don't know about racing wheels. It took me half a season to learn throttle "pumping" thru the corners to avoid spinning out without traction control.

Well I started to play 2-3 months ago so maybe they fixed major bugs already since the game came out (end of last year?).
E.g. I re-installed Windows, and F1 then, few days ago and took good 15min updatings and rebootings before could start the game.

cherryghost

Well the dev's have comfirmed that they've reworked the handling a bit, so fingers crossed. It was my major ebb with F1 2010. That and tyre wear. And scripted AI. And wet weather conditions. And career mode.

beglee

I read that Game in the UK are paying £20 for F1 2010 trade-ins at the moment. But i dont know if that will apply to Game in Ireland as well.

Would be a handy discount when trading up to the new game

cherryghost

Games getting offline and online co-op career. And safety cars!

Ghost Train

http://www.livestream.com/apexracinguk


previewing it live now

Frank Bullitt

OSI wrote: »

Have they at least introduced telemetry?

I cannot fathom how any one could release an F1 game that didn't give telemetry, there's little point in giving me full race weekends if I can't see the telemetry to make it worth my while.

Is that a joke?

cherryghost

So I've been playing this all evening. Started my career with Lotus but of course its god damn slow. Have all assists off and AI on highest difficulty. First thing I notice is the massive improvement in handling. The car is slow through the corners though. I decide to change over to Williams and start career again, just to see if cars control differently. And by god they do.

I spent all three practice sessions trying to eliminate the oversteer in my car, tweaking everything I can. The car is massively fast and exceptional out of corners compared to the Lotus, but its back-end is just so terrible I can't even get a good drive out of the corners, spent the first 2 practice sessions in Melbourne doing mid 1:28's with some sliding off track. I finally nailed in P3 with a good balance of wing adjustment (it made the car slower but I had to get the car around the corners faster :P)

Q1 came and I posted a time that put me into 11th at the dying moments, before I spun again from trying to hard in the first sector. Of course, I get black flagged immediately, even though I had the car pointed in the right direction. No blue flags or anything. 10 place grid penalty immediately. Very annoying.

The cars are just as slow in the first few corners as in F1 2010 but it seems they're slightly more advanced, trying to block you off from taking the inside line on the second corner. Ended up finishing 15th after starting 21st. The car slid around a lot.

What I do like about F1 2011 is the DRS and Kers system though. It's very realistic and you can hear an extra 'squeal' in the air as you activate DRS. Also in advanced setup you can see the 8 assigned engines for the year, and what condition they're in as the season progresses, as well as change the fuel consumption, either pre-race or during the race.

I haven't looked at multi-player yet but I'm impressed so far with single player.

Dcully

I spoke to a few lads ive simraced with for many a year and they say its improved on last year [wouldnt be hard tbh] but its not a sim nor is it trying to be, if it was it simply wouldnt appeal to the masses.
Im hearing the game does a good job at immersing the player in the F1 world without having cutting edge physics the cars are enjoyable enough to race.

Sounds good to me, something semi sim like is what im after, ill play iracing ,rfactor gtr etc if i want more realism

Cherry i didnt get to ask the guys what the sounds were like, i found them terribly annoying in last years game.
Videos ive seen sound a lot better but can be hard to judge for sure, also does each car have a different engine note?

Did you unlock it on steam with an American ip?
I did last year :P

Dcully

OSI wrote: »

How does that work? Surely they would know you have an EU account?

A quick google found this .


If you buy it on steam you can connect to steam via a virtual private network with a US ip address, which will allow you to play the game before the EU release.

If you do this.

1. Buy game with your normal IP on steam as you would any other game.
2. Preload the game ready for friday.
3. log into steam with a US ip (like USAIP or securitykiss tunnel etc)
4. press play and let it decrypt, you might want to set steam to offline mode after this
5. enjoy before friday.

Thats what i did last year, i cant remember what software i used but it worked a charm,i then only used steam in offline mode while playing to avoid hassle.
Apparently its against valves rules but ive yet to hear of anyone getting grief about it.
Ive heard some people log in with russian ip to buy games cheaper,personally i wouldnt try this, i reckon valve would ban people for that.

Dcully

PS3 users thinking of buying, FYI
Reading on a few forums simracing forums the PS3 version is suffering major framerate issues and poor track graphics.
People saying its unplayable at times,one guy over on nogrip saying his framerate drops to single digits fps at times LOL por consoles, showing their age for far too long now.

crouchie15

anyone know if any stores will be selling it this evening?
thanks

cherryghost

I bought it online cully over direct2drive (america website with an American account + proxy :P)

It's definitely less arcadey than last years game. Last year's driving and AI was very 'wooden', its a lot better this year. I spent a lot of corners fighting the back end of my car even with my best setup. In F1 2010 I could throw in any setup and bang in hot laps without worrying about the car stepping out

As for engine noises there's only a slight differentiation in the cars I've driven so far. Gonna test the Renault out after work though :P

Dcully

cherryghost wrote: »

I bought it online cully over direct2drive (america website with an American account + proxy :P)

It's definitely less arcadey than last years game. Last year's driving and AI was very 'wooden', its a lot better this year. I spent a lot of corners fighting the back end of my car even with my best setup. In F1 2010 I could throw in any setup and bang in hot laps without worrying about the car stepping out

As for engine noises there's only a slight differentiation in the cars I've driven so far. Gonna test the Renault out after work though :P

The Renault should be noisy as fcuk for sure

Frank Bullitt

So its dodgy as hell on the PS3?

Beekay

Dcully wrote: »

The Renault should be noisy as fcuk for sure

AFAIK there is no off-throttle exhaust sound effects in game

cherryghost

Beekay wrote: »

AFAIK there is no off-throttle exhaust sound effects in game

Nope

Kev_ps3

Gintonious wrote: »

So its dodgy as hell on the PS3?

Ive a friend who has it since yesterday and has said nothing about those problems.

forzacalcio

Still undecided which console Im going to buy this for, xbox360 or PS3...

cherryghost

The official codemasters forum is scattered with some complaints regarding framerate issues on the PS3.

lee_baby_simms

Anyone know the cheapest place to pick this up?

cherryghost

On which format?

cherryghost

Just an update again on the game.

Love it so far. Chinese GP was epic. Started 12th and got up to 4th, ahead of Rosberg. DRS kicked in after a few laps and he was all over the back of me for ages. The long back straight I was most vunerable as the Williams top speed is rather pathetic. So in order to defend my position I didn't use my KERS during the entire lap, and used it all down that straight. He kept pulling up beside me before I used the KERS. Defended every lap for about 6 laps until he pit in. I responded and pit in the following lap in order to maintain my position. Was epic. Don't ever remember feeling so delighted with a result in any F1 game I've played (bar the rFactor mods :P)

Great game. Multiplayer time tonight I think! Finally got a handle on the controls.

Dcully

Big improvement over last years efforts.
Sounds for a start are a lot better, f1 2010 engine sounds are simply terrible, downshifting was like a dog barking ffs lol.
This time they got close to nailing the sounds.
Physics and handling wise its a lot better but anyone looking for a hardcore sim look elsewhere, far too forgiving when you get out of shape,drive over grass etc but thats to be expected as they wanted this to sit somewhere between full on sim and arcade racer defpending on what aids you use.
ALL aids off as always for me with any game, when driven this way the game comes alive and the vastly improved handling and car feel shows its true colours and big improvement this time round.
Everything about the game is just better in every way.
KERS and DRS are nice features added to the mix of manual gear shifting,braking/throtte inputs while you try to be smooth with steering/brake/throttle.
As always a wheel is the only way to play, i plugged in my xbox 360 controller to my pc to see what its like, as usual its as to be expected nowhere near as immersive or anjoyable as wheel/pedals.
AI also have improved,thankfully the got rid of the silly and ugly bloom affect thus making the graphics a lot crisper and realistic looking.
Im getting 80-150 fps runnign ultra settings,smooth as butter great looking.
Overall id recommend it to F1 fans regardless of whether your used to hardcore sims or arcade racers.
Codemasters done a great job of imersing the user into the F1 world,while racing the game actually delivers an F1 atmosphere.
Its no hardcore sim but i personally have enough of them on my hard drive,F1 2011 is ten times better than F1 2010.
Very enjoyable racing experience in my opinion.

brian plank

did they fix the pitting problem where you get held back until every other car is gone through and do the ai cars still dissapear when they get a certain distance ahead or behind? the single player was unplayable in 2010 becuae of those 2 problems.

cherryghost

brian plank wrote: »

did they fix the pitting problem where you get held back until every other car is gone through and do the ai cars still dissapear when they get a certain distance ahead or behind? the single player was unplayable in 2010 becuae of those 2 problems.

Yes, they did! They pulled me out and I nearly crashed into Button in the pit lane

One thing I love about Codemasters is they sit down and listen to feedback. Nearly everything that was wrong with F1 2010 was taken on board and they've produced a great game that caters to almost everyone's needs :P

lee_baby_simms

cherryghost wrote: »

On which format?

360. HMV are selling it for 45.

cherryghost

Selling for about 43 euro on thehut. Probably HMV is the best bet so, GAME and Gamestop are selling for €49.99

forzacalcio

€41 with f1 2010 trade in!

Kev_ps3

Got it today, I cant believe the graphics, they are much worse than last year which is unbelievable. Other than that its a good game.

D2D

Got it as well for PS3. Graphics are pretty woeful:( Started a career with Force India (really like the new paddock idea instead of zombie woman). Qualified 11th for Australia and as I was exiting the pits, the game decided to freeze for a split second and the graphics went mad:mad::mad: Finished the race in 5th after deciding on an early pit stop and an Alonso spin which stopped nearly half the field. Decided to play 2 player split screen and I had to turn the game off. It was like watching it being played on a PSP. They've got to fix the frame-rate issue

Bsal

I got it on Amazon for €28 with free postage for the PC. Only thing is I have to wait till sometime next week for it to arrive.

D2D

Someone on the F1 Forum on codemasters posted this vid. Look at the garage guy's head as it moves by and look at the fences/barriers and trees as they pass. This is the kind of frame rate problem that's happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-udY69FJTQ

Richard tea

Downloading on steam at the mo. 2.5 hrs left:( Its years since I had an f1 game. Really looking forward to multyplayer mode. I hope the auld Pc can handle it:)

Dcully

Richard tea wrote: »

Downloading on steam at the mo. 2.5 hrs left:( Its years since I had an f1 game. Really looking forward to multyplayer mode. I hope the auld Pc can handle it:)

Im staying miles away from multiplayer tbh, destruction derby springs to mind.
As for being years since playing an F1 game, this is the best effort in years mate,you havent missed anything.

Glico Man

Just finished my first race with Force India in the rain. Limped to the finish line with no fuel in 11th after starting 17th.

Admittedly though I had to restart the race after realising I started on a dry race set up... absolute nightmare. Couldn't keep it on the track through slow or high speed corners. At least its realistic in that sense

Beekay

aaronh007 wrote: »

Just finished my first race with Force India in the rain. Limped to the finish line with no fuel in 11th after starting 17th.

Same happened to me with the fuel, even though it said optimal fuel usage:( Managed to finish 14th after running 12th for the last few laps

Glico Man

Beekay wrote: »

Same happened to me with the fuel, even though it said optimal fuel usage:( Managed to finish 14th after running 12th for the last few laps

Was chasing down Kobayashi for 9th when I was told to switch to mix 1 to get a run at him. They didn't realise then that my fuel usage quickly went to -1 lap and didn't tell me to switch it back or to mix 3 when my overtaking attempts were futile. Luckily I'd a fair advantage over the other guys behind me but when the car started stuttering on the back straight it was edge of the seat stuff

v3ttel

Same thing happened me in Australia with the fuel usage. I was hanging on to 10th for dear life with 2 cars stuck on my gearbox.

Didn't realise that I was low on fuel, and ran out about 4 corners from the end. Finished 12th.

Loving the game though. The cars handle fantastically well, the wet conditions are really captured perfectly.

Also, the co-op campaign is a top feature.

I've found that the A.I in Instanbul seem to have crazy levels of grip? I'm about 1.5 seconds off the pace in both S1 & S2, and then 2 seconds quicker in S3?

Richard tea

Ok, I have played the game for about 2 hrs in total since saturday and I must say im loving it. Its packed full of detail and I like the idea of making mods to the car set up. Like I mentioned before, its prob 10 years since I played a f1 game:o
The game has crashed about 4 times for me so far ( I get a black screen & I must power off the pc and reset ) I only realised that my gfx card is not DirectX 11 compatible (Ati HD4800 series ) But for the most part it runs fine

I started the career mode with HRT. My best lap in melbourne is 1:35:o although when I first played the game I was 1:48 ish so im improving by the day.