Nerds

Mr. Loverman

I work for a software company, so I have the pleasure of working with a lot of nerds. (Note I have some nerd traits myself, and I don't dislike nerds.)

This is a conversation I had with a colleague on gtalk today...

me: remember he-man the movie?
did you see that?

nerd: i did but wouldn't be able to recall specifics

me: well
skeletor
falls down an infinite chasm at the end
sort of a tunnel which goes on forever
i remember thinking
after a while would you become ok with it
and start having a bit of fun
pretending to fly
etc.

nerd: well - infinity is constant i guess
so
it would be like being stationary
i mean
it would depend on gravity
he's falling down an infinite tunnel?

me: and if there was wind or weather or something like that
that could be a pain in the ass
yeah

nerd: that doesn't really make sense
if he's falling

me: of course, it's a movie...

nerd: the gravitational force of some massive object
is drawing him to it
so presumably he'd accelerate to an infinite velocity
which is infinitely faster than the speed of light
which would mean he'd be everywhere at once

me: no in the movie he just sort of falls like you'd expect someone to fall into a normal chasm
except he will fall forever

nerd: fall forever but never accelerate
so he's not really falling
just moving into infinite space
at a constant velocity

me: yeah...

nerd: well then everything would appear stationary for him
I mean

me: ok but
after a while

nerd: we are moving through space at 10s of thousands of km per hour
relative to the sun
it's all about relativity

me: cause you don't die for a few days without water
i reckon you'd get used to it
and probably have fun
until you remembered you're going to die

nerd: well it would appear as tho he is just stationary
like we are
if you sit still
u feel like u aren't moving
and you aren't relative to ur chair
but
u are relative to the sun
so
for skeletor
it would be as tho he was sitting on the chair
stuck
forever
it would be ****
there would be no point of reference
he couldn't move relative to anything else
hence
an infinite tunnel doesn't make sense

me: ok...
i have to go to a meeting

...

Do you work with any nerds?

Are you a nerd?

Does my friend's incorrect physics knowledge bother you?

admiralofthefleet

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Are you a nerd?

im 1337

DrumSteve

Incorrect physics knowledge =/= Nerd.

Asphyxia

I love cute nerds

But yeah I'm a total nerd :rolleyes:

Captain_Generic

He has a fairly sound argument

MagicMarker

Obviously not much of a nerd if he doesn't know that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

:cool:

Cuddlesworth

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

Does my friend's correct physics knowledge bother you?

Fixed that for you.

Mr. Loverman

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

If you were a real nerd you would go out of your way to prove he is wrong about something.

Sonics2k

That's the kind of thing my best friend says to wind people up.

KeithM89_old

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsPheErBj8

Buceph

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Fixed that for you.

Explain then please.

Why wouldn't he feel the effects of travelling through something. I presume there's an atmosphere that's stationary, otherwise he'd be dead. So him moving through that would have an effect on him like a skydiver, wouldn't it?

Nerd me up biatches!

thecornflake

Wait, where do geeks fit into all this then ???

minotour

MagicMarker wrote: »

Obviously not much of a nerd if he doesn't know that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

:cool:

Is nerd not saying "Well you've already defied the laws of physics with your infinite tunnel so why not go faster than light while at it"?

good stuff, if i had him on call Id always be baiting him with this kind of drivel.

Anyway, I've to go to a meeting.

Penn

An Infinity Chasm is impossible.

NoseyMike2010

NERD = No-one Ever Really Dies!!!!

saintsaltynuts

Skeletor does'nt actually fall forever in that movie.At the very end of the end credits he pops his head up out of the bubbly gas pool hes in and says I'l be back!Hope that sheds some light on the subject.

pickarooney

MagicMarker wrote: »

Obviously not much of a nerd if he doesn't know that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

:cool:

I remember The Neverending story and while the Nothing covered ground quickly it was nowhere near the speed of light.

minotour

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Skeletor does'nt actually fall forever in that movie.At the very end of the end credits he pops his head up out of the bubbly gas pool hes in and says I'l be back!Hope that sheds some light on the subject.

The persian messenger in 300 gets booted into a similar void, somewhere down greece way.

THIS IS SPARTA!

wellboy76

Would be very difficult to take a p1ss or have a dump

Captain_Generic

The way this conversation would go with anyone else

me: remember he-man the movie?
did you see that?

them: GAY

TeddyTedson

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

im 1337

I always see this in xbox gamertags ect, what is it?
Pretty sure it means leet or soemthing but what is it all about?

Buceph

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I always see this in xbox gamertags ect, what is it?
Pretty sure it means leet or soemthing but what is it all about?

Aye, leet. As in elite. Like the elite professional gamers.

thecornflake

thecornflake wrote: »

Wait, where do geeks fit into all this then ???

They're up to their eyeballs in debt.

Sarky

If the tunnel was infinitely long then the air in it would be falling at the same rate because there's no bottom for it to rest on, and so anyone in it would feel stationary. It's not his fault you failed to account for some basic factors.

Quite aside from that, nobody admits to having watched that movie while retaining anything resembling credibility. Ergo, you are both nerds.

Eviledna

Gather round folks...

We got ourselves a good oul fashioned nerd-off.

NERD-OFF!

:pac:

Buceph

Sarky wrote: »

If the tunnel was infinitely long then the air in it would be falling at the same rate because there's no bottom for it to rest on, and so anyone in it would feel stationary. It's not his fault you failed to account for some basic factors.

What if it was resting on an infinite amount of air?

RichieC

TeddyTedson wrote: »

I always see this in xbox gamertags ect, what is it?
Pretty sure it means leet or soemthing but what is it all about?

Generally speaking it's an ironic reference to elite.

Fluorescence

His argument is flawed because something can't fall faster than it's terminal velocity due to air pressure and weight etc. It would still always feel like you're falling, not stationary, because of the resistence of the air you're essentially pushing against constantly as you fall.

To answer your original question, yes I would start to enjoy it after a while. I mean, I'm gonna die of starvation and thirst anyway so I may as well have some fun on the way down :P

And yes, I know a good few nerds, and have many nerdish tendancies myself.

Captain_Generic

fluorescence wrote: »

His argument is flawed because something can't fall faster than it's terminal velocity due to air pressure and weight etc. It would still always feel like you're falling, not stationary, because of the resistence of the air you're essentially pushing against constantly as you fall.

But there would only be air resistance and pressure if the air itself were sitting on something. Since the pit is meant to be "bottomless", would the air not be falling with his boneyness?

Fluorescence

Captain_Generic wrote: »

But there would only be air resistance and pressure if the air itself were sitting on something. Since the pit is meant to be "bottomless", would the air not be falling with his boneyness?

It is infinitely long, not bottomless. Mebbe I'm being pedantic but there's a difference.

therealbigmac

Anybody who starts a conversation with remember the he-man movie is a complete nerd!!

MrStuffins

I remember there was a really bad troll the other day and I said

"Remember back in the day there were really subtle trolls who would pull people into ridiculous arguments in ridiculous threads and sit back and laugh".

This is this thread!

Bravo Sir! TROLLING IS BACK BABY!!

MrStuffins

therealbigmac wrote: »

Anybody who starts a conversation with remember the he-man movie is a complete nerd!!

I know, everyone knows it was called Masters of the Universe!

al28283

It wasn't an endless chasm. After the credits you see that Skeletor survived and rose from the water at the bottom of the pit. A real nerd would know this already

super_furry

MrStuffins wrote: »

I remember there was a really bad troll the other day and I said

"Remember back in the day there were really subtle trolls who would pull people into ridiculous arguments in ridiculous threads and sit back and laugh".

This is this thread!

Bravo Sir! TROLLING IS BACK BABY!!

.9999999999 = 1

Pauleta

I like Star Trek

Spunge

OP is a closet nerd and tries to play it off with his blatant nerdophobia. It's a classic case.

Buceph

Pauleta wrote: »

I like Star Trek

What is your favourite Star Trek?

I am tied between Deep Space Nine and The Next Generation.

BASHIR

the terminal velocity of an object happens when the drag force is equal to its weight (mass x gravity) since the person is falling in air, the buoyancy force becomes negligible due to the density of the man being significantly larger than the air.
Sorry jus sayin
so basicly if the guy was falling for ever, once he got used to the wind rushing past him it'd be quite boring

edit never answered OP , well i live with two software developers and their right NERDS
they call me an engineering nerd too tho ha ha

The Master

saintsaltynuts wrote: »

Skeletor does'nt actually fall forever in that movie.At the very end of the end credits he pops his head up out of the bubbly gas pool hes in and says I'l be back!Hope that sheds some light on the subject.

Uber nerds would know a sequel was planned but eventually scrapped, the sets and costumes that were already made were eventually used in the Van Damme film Cyborg.

Pauleta

Buceph wrote: »

What is your favourite Star Trek?

I am tied between Deep Space Nine and The Next Generation.

The Next Generation for sure. I never really got into Deep Space 9

I'd consider myself a nerd due to my computer knowledge and railway interest. But I'm not interested in sci-fi or role playing, so I'm not quite a textbook nerd.

--LOS--

The Master wrote: »

Uber nerds would know a sequel was planned but eventually scrapped, the sets and costumes that were already made were eventually used in the Van Damme film Cyborg.

which I watched last night!



wouldn't say I'm a nerd compared to some people I know but they're great and usually have a lot of other sides to them, it's the ones that are incessant about their nerdiness you want to avoid.

Captain_Generic

Karsini wrote: »

I'd consider myself a nerd due to my computer knowledge and railway interest. But I'm not interested in sci-fi or role playing, so I'm not quite a textbook nerd.

You're on the right track

Sarky

Buceph wrote: »

What if it was resting on an infinite amount of air?

Then pressure from the air above would cause the various gases in the air below at some distance to become liquid according to their partial pressures, and further down, solid. Thus, while anyone falling would feel air rushing "past" them, it would no longer be a tunnel.And they'd only feel it for a while before splashing into that large ocean of liquid oxygen, nitrogen carbon dioxide and trace chemicals. And then they'd drown, assuming oxygen poisoning doesn't get them first.

SCIENCE!

Edit: Of course, an infinite mass of air, like an infinite mass of anything, results in black hole territory, and f*ck knows what goes on in those, but it's probably not pleasant. I'm fairly sure it would be a very definitive end to a tunnel of any length.

jimthemental

Poor old skeletor, st. Vincent de Paul used to help when people couldn't see the end of the tunnel

draylander

Nerds have geek tendancies but not the brains to backs it up while geeks have both the brains and the weirdness. this guy was a geek not a nerd.

Personally im just pissed that the ending of He-man just got ruined for me

iamstop

My god you are ALL wrong. Firstly it is not infinite since he had to have fallen into it from one END. How can something which has an END be infinite? :rolleyes:

Now someone will say, yeah but the other end is the infinite one. It doesn't work that way. If you have at least one end you are not infinite.

Now the air thing, if this chasm thingy-ma-jobby went out space way them there could easily be no air to speak off. It would be as close to a vacuum as space is (it's not a 100% vacuum) so in theory he could continue to accelerate up to a point somewhere almost at the speed of light. But your plastic pocket protected friend has a good point about something of mass needing to be dragging him down with gravity. The absence on such a mass would result in him eventually drifting over to one side of the chasm and eventually hitting it, perhaps bouncing around lots and die that way or since he is a skeleton and already dead he may lose enough downwards velocity over time to eventually stick to one of the walls. Unlikely though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3njjD41f48

*ps. good trolling

BASHIR

iamstop wrote: »

My god you are ALL wrong. Firstly it is not infinite since he had to have fallen into it from one END. How can something which has an END be infinite? :rolleyes:

Now someone will say, yeah but the other end is the infinite one. It doesn't work that way. If you have at least one end you are not infinite.

Now the air thing, if this chasm thingy-ma-jobby went out space way them there could easily be no air to speak off. It would be as close to a vacuum as space is (it's not a 100% vacuum) so in theory he could continue to accelerate up to a point somewhere almost at the speed of light. But your plastic pocket protected friend has a good point about something of mass needing to be dragging him down with gravity. The absence on such a mass would result in him eventually drifting over to one side of the chasm and eventually hitting it, perhaps bouncing around lots and die that way or since he is a skeleton and already dead he may lose enough downwards velocity over time to eventually stick to one of the walls. Unlikely though.

*ps. good trolling

When you count to infinity where do you start?

Fluorescence

iamstop wrote: »

My god you are ALL wrong. Firstly it is not infinite since he had to have fallen into it from one END. How can something which has an END be infinite? :rolleyes:

Now someone will say, yeah but the other end is the infinite one. It doesn't work that way. If you have at least one end you are not infinite.

No, it's infinite, not a circle. It has two ends, because it's a tunnel. It's just infinitely long. It's not that it never ends.

iamstop

BASHIR wrote: »

When you count to infinity where do you start?

Minus infinity