Why is there so many lowlifes in Dublin

RainbowRose81

My friend got spat on while cycling by summerhill a few days ago by a guy in his late teens, What is wrong with people here. It was a completely unprovoked attack, even animals wouldn't do that! It makes me ashamed to be Irish at times, My friend is indian and he sometimes does get racism here directly and indirectly. There is many lowlifes in this small space, this small city with a population of over a million. I think they should be sent to poor countries like africa and india and south america for a few months to let them see what life is, to let them see who they are because throwing them in jail isn't the solution or they should have have to go to army camp because they don't know the basics to treat others how you want to be treated.

Offy

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

My friend got spat on while cycling by summerhill a few days ago by a guy in his late teens, What is wrong with people here. It was a completely unprovoked attack, even animals wouldn't do that! It makes me ashamed to be Irish at times, My friend is indian and he sometimes does get racism here directly and indirectly. There is many lowlifes in this small space, this small city with a population of over a million. I think they should be sent to poor countries like africa and india and south america for a few months to let them see what life is, to let them see who they are because throwing them in jail isn't the solution or they should have have to go to army camp because they don't know the basics to treat others how you want to be treated.

That has nothing to do with Dublin, it happens down the country too. I put it down to lack of education but thats just a guess.

Nodin

No, nothing bad could happen in Johannesburg or downtown Bogota...

ballsymchugh

Nodin wrote: »

No, nothing bad could happen in Johannesburg or downtown Bogota...

or laytrim

RachaelVO

That's a question that is really hard to answer.

Probably because they are just d1ckheads, following the crowd. It's not just in Dublin though, you will pretty much find that in every capital city in the world, you find your clique and you stick with it, even if that means being a spanner.

It's the pack animal thing. As we get older we go to specific pubs and clubs and mix with like minded people, as teenagers we hang around looking to get ourselves into trouble. Doesn't stop them from being douchebags, but unfortunately there is probably no definitive answer.

I'm sorry your friend was attacked. Is he ok?

Nodin

ballsymchugh wrote: »

or laytrim

...or Tralee...

bonerm

Because in Dublin they're called lowlifes and in the rest of the country they're called "characters".

Star Bingo

lets play fantasy stereotype

if the japanese are elves, the irish are ogres

Offy

Star Bingo wrote: »

lets play fantasy stereotype

if the japanese are elves, the irish are ogres

I think you should apologise to ogres for that!

hondasam

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

My friend got spat on while cycling by summerhill a few days ago by a guy in his late teens, What is wrong with people here. It was a completely unprovoked attack, even animals wouldn't do that! It makes me ashamed to be Irish at times, My friend is indian and he sometimes does get racism here directly and indirectly. There is many lowlifes in this small space, this small city with a population of over a million. I think they should be sent to poor countries like africa and india and south america for a few months to let them see what life is, to let them see who they are because throwing them in jail isn't the solution or they should have have to go to army camp because they don't know the basics to treat others how you want to be treated.

for pity sake get over it, do you think an Irish person never got spat at.

Star Bingo

Offy wrote: »

I think you should apologise to ogres for that!

shrek was a misrepresentation

Napper Hawkins

Ireland in general is choc full of worthless scum like that, I'd sooner shed a tear over the death of a disease-ridden rodent than any of these oxygen thieves.

Absolutely nothing you can do except try to ignore it as best you can.

Or just leave.

Seaneh

another irish/dublin/country self hate thread on AH...

This hasn't happened in aaaaagggggeeeesss....

RainbowRose81

Nodin wrote: »

No, nothing bad could happen in Johannesburg or downtown Bogota...

Well i know but those places like that would mostly have incidents of theft or gangland things. i would rather get my money stolen than get spat at. That is the lowest of the low to spit at someone. It wouldn't be as bad as if they had asked you for money. Those city's population are 6 or 7 times that of Dublin's population, its weird for such a small city to have this much nastiness

Jesus Wept

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

It makes me ashamed to be Irish at times

Well that's just silly.

Chaotic_Forces

Because we're bleedin' rapi and deadly like! We don give a bleedin' fook what youse tink abou' us, we'll battar anywun who even luks at me funi, alri'?!

Or, to put it lightly, you've got scum everywhere, just a lot more in certain poor areas, get over it and avoid said areas.

K-9

Bigger population I'd say so more lowlifes than other places in the country.

Rented Mule

Big city and easy dole ?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well i know but those places like that would mostly have incidents of theft or gangland things. i would rather get my money stolen than get spat at. That is the lowest of the low to spit at someone. It wouldn't be as bad as if they had asked you for money. Those city's population are 6 or 7 times that of Dublin's population, its weird for such a small city to have this much nastiness

You;ve never seen anyone spitting outside of Dublin?

Chaotic_Forces

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well i know but those places like that would mostly have incidents of theft or gangland things. i would rather get my money stolen than get spat at. That is the lowest of the low to spit at someone. It wouldn't be as bad as if they had asked you for money. Those city's population are 6 or 7 times that of Dublin's population, its weird for such a small city to have this much nastiness

Spitting at someone is the lowest of the low?

Remind me to go back to Hitler and thank him and his Nazi supporters since they don't seem so bad compared to the scum low-life that spat at your friend. :rolleyes:

TheZohanS

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well i know but those places like that would mostly have incidents of theft or gangland things. i would rather get my money stolen than get spat at. That is the lowest of the low to spit at someone. It wouldn't be as bad as if they had asked you for money. Those city's population are 6 or 7 times that of Dublin's population, its weird for such a small city to have this much nastiness

Have you ever been robbed?

Jesus Wept

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

its weird for such a small city to have this much nastiness

What are you basing this on?

Nodin

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well i know but those places like that would mostly have incidents of theft or gangland things.......

'Gangland things' like mass gang shootings, tying bombs around peoples necks and setting them off.....

They party even harder in Mexico...
http://latindispatch.com/2011/01/10/51-dead-in-mexicos-drug-violence-15-beheaded-in-acapulco/

And then theres what happens when a lower caste group gets 'above themselves' in parts of rural india....

yammycat

People generally don't leave the poorer areas of dublin, theres little upward mobility, chances that hottie in the next road is in your family tree, IQ has fallen due to inbreeding.

RainbowRose81

hondasam wrote: »

for pity sake get over it, do you think an Irish person never got spat at.

Is it a social norm to get spat on anywhere in the world. Well what difference does nationality make? it just makes me sick to hear another person doing that to someone else. Get a punch or your money stolen would be more decent

RainbowRose81

The-Rigger wrote: »

What are you basing this on?

my own experience..i lived here for 4 years nearly

Fluorescence

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well i know but those places like that would mostly have incidents of theft or gangland things. i would rather get my money stolen than get spat at. That is the lowest of the low to spit at someone. It wouldn't be as bad as if they had asked you for money. Those city's population are 6 or 7 times that of Dublin's population, its weird for such a small city to have this much nastiness

Oh please, I've been spat on for not giving junkies 50c, and I'm a 5 foot nothing Irish girl. Scumbags are everywhere, they're not just a Dublin exclusive.

Napper Hawkins

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Is it a social norm to get spat on anywhere in the world. Well what difference does nationality make? it just makes me sick to hear another person doing that to someone else. Get a punch or your money stolen would be more decent

You've clearly never been punched and had your money stolen.

Chaotic_Forces

Napper Hawkins wrote: »

You've clearly never been punched and had your money stolen.

Obviously she hasn't! She doesn't live a decent area! I mean just the other day walking through the poshest area of all, I had my face punched 5 times and my money stolen, I was very happy to thank the fellow that did it because he didn't spit in my face!

Jesus Wept

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

my own experience..i lived here for 4 years nearly

Ok. There are scumbags, but there are scumbags in most places. I don't think there are more here than a lot than a lot of places.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Is it a social norm to get spat on anywhere in the world. Well what difference does nationality make? it just makes me sick to hear another person doing that to someone else. Get a punch or your money stolen would be more decent

You obviously don't travel much.

Their are worse things you can do to someone and they happen all over the world. Trust me on this. Big cities, little cities, villages. Remember Hungerford? Dunblayne? Columbine?

RainbowRose81

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Spitting at someone is the lowest of the low?

Remind me to go back to Hitler and thank him and his Nazi supporters since they don't seem so bad compared to the scum low-life that spat at your friend. :rolleyes:

Things have changed since then. We live in a western democracy capitalist society, its 2011

cosmicfart

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Spitting at someone is the lowest of the low?

Remind me to go back to Hitler and thank him and his Nazi supporters since they don't seem so bad compared to the scum low-life that spat at your friend. :rolleyes:

how can u compare Nazis to Skangers?? Worlds apart! Skangers are saints compared to Hitler lol

RainbowRose81

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

You;ve never seen anyone spitting outside of Dublin?

yea on the ground not on someone's face.

Chaotic_Forces

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Things have changed since then. We live in a western democracy capitalist society, its 2011

Alright, I'll be sure to go to America, get shot five or six times and thank them since gangland shootings are common place in the poorer areas there but I bet you they say "I'd rather get shot ten times than spat at, it's why I love my home and will never leave".

Grow up, your friend got spat at, boo-hoo. It's not like he/she got a knife in the chest or a bullet to the head or a hiding. Then again I suppose that's much more polite?

hondasam

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Is it a social norm to get spat on anywhere in the world. Well what difference does nationality make? it just makes me sick to hear another person doing that to someone else. Get a punch or your money stolen would be more decent

Id imagine it happens, I would never be ashamed to be Irish ever. do you know for a fact it was an Irish person or even a Dublin person for that ?

Chaotic_Forces

cosmicfart wrote: »

how can u compare Nazis to Skangers?? Worlds apart! Skangers are saints compared to Hitler lol

I was being sarcastic since she thinks spitting at someone is the worst thing you can do, I think I should be happy I only got mugged once and never spat on.

Jesus Wept

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Remember Hungerford? Dunblayne? Columbine?

They are kind of different, a rare event.
It's hardly fair to tar a place purely because a massacre/mass shooting occurred there, it could easily happen here. They are rare and perpetrated by an individual or a very small group.

Weren't the last couple of school shootings in 'more respected' small towns in Norway and Germany?

RainbowRose81

cosmicfart wrote: »

how can u compare Nazis to Skangers?? Worlds apart! Skangers are saints compared to Hitler lol

Well the nazis were force to in to hitler's army most of them, they had not much of a choice. I don't think people from marginalised areas have much choice either, by what is spitting at someone going to do?

cosmicfart

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

I was being sarcastic since she thinks spitting at someone is the worst thing you can do, I think I should be happy I only got mugged once and never spat on.

weres the spitting smiley when u need one? :pac:

southsiderosie

Oh look, it's the monthly "Dublin sucks!" thread! :rolleyes:

Chaotic_Forces wrote: »

Alright, I'll be sure to go to America, get shot five or six times and thank them since gangland shootings are common place in the poorer areas there but I bet you they say "I'd rather get shot ten times than spat at, it's why I love my home and will never leave".

Grow up, your friend got spat at, boo-hoo. It's not like he/she got a knife in the chest or a bullet to the head or a hiding. Then again I suppose that's much more polite?

The thing is, in the US, those neighborhoods are not in the city center, they are more on the edges. Dublin seems weird because you have a significant skanger element in what are essentially high-rent commercial districts. Chicago is a far more dangerous city than Dublin, but Dublin City Center feels far more anarchic - more sketchy people/junkies/feral children and fewer cops - than Chicago's city center.

Knasher

The respect they get in their peer group is inversely proportional to how big a maggot they act towards people outside of their group. The effect would be therefore be amplified in larger cities and poorer areas where you will tend to have larger groups and I can grantee you it isn't just a Dublin or Irish phenomenon.

On the brighter side of things, when these people get older and drift apart generally speaking most of them become decent members of society. Of course unfortunately some of them also tend towards drugs, homelessness and crime.

Long term I think the only solution would be to find a way to bring shame instead of respect onto people who act like this. Unfortunately I think the child protection laws (which are good in general) run in direct opposition to this.

HoneyRyder

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

my own experience..i lived here for 4 years nearly

That's all very well Rose but what your experience is lacking is the context of it being just one person's experience and therefore isn't really grounds for making vast generalisations.

Bruthal

hondasam wrote: »

for pity sake get over it, do you think an Irish person never got spat at.

Well it does sound like they got spat at for being indian, by a brainless person that would not be missed if they disappeared. As for get over it? Can we assume it would be like water off a ducks back for you to be spat at so? Except it does not flow as well as water.

RainbowRose81

hondasam wrote: »

Id imagine it happens, I would never be ashamed to be Irish ever. do you know for a fact it was an Irish person or even a Dublin person for that ?

Yea i know for a fact he was irish and stuff was shouted at him with a strong dublin accent.

Would it be the norm to see a foreigner like a chinese or foreigner national spitting at someone?

Yea, well those people don't behave like Irish people at all, that would be a very very rare occurence in Cork, Donegal or Galway. It's hard to believe Galway and Dublin are in the same country

old hippy

The law of averages dictates that most threads unrelated to nazis end up mentioning nazis or Hitler.

Is Dublin worse than anywhere else? Depends on how much bad stuff happens to the individual.

I've been mugged twice in Dublin, had knives pulled on me about 5 times, been beaten up 5 times. Not all at the same time, mind. But most of that happened when I was a teen/early 20s and was instigated, for the most by people of a similar age.

All that testosterone can lead to some unpleasant situations. The world over.

Spunge

Whats wrong with a little spit, just pretend its raining.

Chaotic_Forces

southsiderosie wrote: »

Oh look, it's the monthly "Dublin sucks!" thread! :rolleyes:



The thing is, in the US, those neighborhoods are not in the city center, they are more on the edges. Dublin seems weird because you have a significant skanger element in what are essentially high-rent commercial districts. Chicago is a far more dangerous city than Dublin, but Dublin City Center feels far more anarchic - more sketchy people/junkies/feral children and fewer cops - than Chicago's city center.

I see your point but... I think it's because pretty much anything of use in terms of clubs and whatnot is in the town. I live about 5 minutes from O'Connell street and hear kids 14/15 at 2am drunk outta their heads and smashing bottles but it's only because nobody really gives a damn.
The City Centre is sort of a ghetto in itself but because there are a lot of places that are useful here, it's a high rent like area.

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Yea i know for a fact he was irish and stuff was shouted at him with a strong dublin accent.

Would it be the norm to see a foreigner like a chinese or foreigner national spitting at someone?

Yea, well those people don't behave like Irish people at all, that would be a very very rare occurence in Cork, Donegal or Galway. It's hard to believe Galway and Dublin are in the same country

So it's not about the scumbag that spat at your friend, it's now about Dublin being a horrible place? If so, move out.

Star Bingo

there's not so much sexual lowlifery. innn comparison to certain other nations - far as i'm aware.

just ogre-like bufoons that fail to channel envy correctly; often converting to snide / aggression

Bruthal

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Yea i know for a fact he was irish and stuff was shouted at him with a strong dublin accent.

Would it be the norm to see a foreigner like a chinese or foreigner national spitting at someone?

Yea, well those people don't behave like Irish people at all, that would be a very very rare occurence in Cork, Donegal or Galway. It's hard to believe Galway and Dublin are in the same country

I`d agree with you. Filth bags that do that, simple as that.

Jesus Wept

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Yea i know for a fact he was irish and stuff was shouted at him with a strong dublin accent.

Would it be the norm to see a foreigner like a chinese or foreigner national spitting at someone?

Normal? It's not normal but it would happen in their own countries.
Scumbags tend not to be the ones who move to new pastures.

Comparing the behavior of local scumbags vs non nationals who have moved abroad is not good.