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Ranking The Best - Quarterbacks

  • 15-03-2011 05:59PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭


    Wasn't as many replies as I had hoped in the cornerbacks thread, so get voting folks! Even if your stuck for time and just take someone elses list and re-arrange it to reflect your own tastes.

    Anyway, why delay the inevitable - this is the one most people do in their head anyway so shouldn't be any trouble typing them out! Same rules apply :)

    1. Tom Brady (NE)
    2. Peyton Manning (IND)
    3. Aaron Rodgers (GB)
    4. Drew Brees (NO)
    5. Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
    6. Philip Rivers (SD)
    7. Matt Ryan (ATL)
    8. Michael Vick (PHI)
    9. Josh Freeman (TB)
    10. Matt Schaub (HOU)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭frostie500


    I found it pretty tough to actually pick my top ten, because there is quite a gap from the best seven or eight QBs in the league to the rest of the field. As a result I've split my selection into a few distinct groups.

    Here goes anyway!
    The elite:
    1. Tom Brady
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Drew Brees

    The very good:
    4. Ben Roethlisberger
    5. Aaron Rodgers
    6. Philip Rivers

    Should make the jump to the next level in the next 12 months:
    7. Mike Vick
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman

    The gaggle of QBs that could make the jump to being very good but need to show consistently that they can get the job done:
    10. Pick any player from this group:
    Joe Flacco, Matt Cassel, Tony Romo, Mark Sanchez, Jay Cutler, Matt Schaub or Sam Bradford

    Each player listed in each category I rate at pretty much the same level as their peers so the order of them doesnt really matter too much, in my mind at least!

    Players like Vick, Ryan and Freeman could easily make the jump to the second tier this year. I'm a huge fan of Matt Ryan and he is the best young QB in the league as far as I am concerned. He doesnt turn the ball over and is exceptionally smart, he looks more than ready to lead a team to success but I just think that right now he isnt as good a complete package as the players ahead of him. Same goes for Vick, if he can play like he did this year on a consistent basis I would have no hesitation putting him in the top five but for now he is a bit lower. Same goes for Freeman, you only have one year of him starting so its a tough evaluation, he looks to be the real deal so lets wait til he develops.

    The final players listed I think could all be very good, especially Bradford, but right now they need to be in a good system to put up the numbers. Each has the ability but they are all lacking a little bit in my eyes to be called the number 10 player in my list so its pick one of them as you please!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Drew Brees
    5. Phillip Rivers
    6. Ben Roethlisberger
    7. Michael Vick
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Tony Romo

    And you've only got 9 in your list Archie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Aaron Rodgers
    4. Drew Brees
    5. Ben Roethlisberger
    6. Phillip Rivers
    7. Michael Vick
    8. Josh Freeman
    9. Matt Ryan
    10. Jay Cutler


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Wasn't as many replies as I had hoped in the cornerbacks thread, so get voting folks! Even if your stuck for time and just take someone elses list and re-arrange it to reflect your own tastes.

    Anyway, why delay the inevitable - this is the one most people do in their head anyway so shouldn't be any trouble typing them out! Same rules apply :)

    1. Tom Brady (NE)
    2. Peyton Manning (IND)
    3. Aaron Rodgers (GB)
    4. Drew Brees (NO)
    5. Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
    6. Philip Rivers (SD)
    7. Matt Ryan (ATL)
    8. Michael Vick (PHI)
    9. Josh Freeman (TB)
    10. Matt Schaub (HOU)

    Lol our top 6 are identical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    TaosHum wrote: »
    Lol our top 6 are identical.

    My 10th pick was the most difficult! I'd say the majority of people will have the same 9 names in the 1-9 slots. As frostie mentioned there is then a bunch after those 9 who are all around a similar level. I went for Romo out of those just because I like the guy, but I can't really argue with anyone who choses Schuab/Cassel/Cutler/Eli instead as they are all at a similar level.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,746 ✭✭✭TaosHum


    Mr. Guappa wrote: »
    My 10th pick was the most difficult! I'd say the majority of people will have the same 9 names in the 1-9 slots. As frostie mentioned there is then a bunch after those 9 who are all around a similar level. I went for Romo out of those just because I like the guy, but I can't really argue with anyone who choses Schuab/Cassel/Cutler/Eli instead as they are all at a similar level.

    Its actually one of the easier positions to make a top 10. Starting to think though I should have thrown Eli in there somewhere. Has proven more than the likes of Ryan and Freeman.

    I think those guys have huge potential and even now very good QB's, but maybe Eli deserves to be in there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,150 ✭✭✭✭LuckyGent88


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Philip Rivers
    5. Drew Brees
    6. Ben Roethlisberger
    7. Michael Vick
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Jay Cutler


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,969 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Drew Brees
    5. Michael Vick
    6. Ben Roethlisberger
    7. Phillip Rivers
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Matt Schuab

    Romo was very, very close to getting in but alas, I'm limited to ten
    People's list are a lot more similar to each other then the WR or CB thread but I don't find that surprising


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,078 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    1. Peyton Manning
    2. Tom Brady
    3. Aaron Rogers
    4. Matt Ryan
    5. Drew Brees
    6. Phillip Rivers
    7. Sam Bradford
    8. Kevin Kolb
    9 Jay Cutler
    10. Joe Flacco

    Yes its unconventional but I think those guys are the best .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    1. Manning
    2. Brady
    3. Rodgers
    4. Brees
    5. Rivers
    6. Big Ben
    7. Vick
    8. Ryan
    9. Cutler
    10. Bradford


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,491 ✭✭✭davetherave


    1. P. Manning
    2. Brady
    3. Brees
    4. Big Ben
    5. Rodgers
    6. Rivers
    7. Romo
    8. Cutler
    9. E. Manning
    10. Flacco

    Mick Vick should be in there somewhere but I don't know where. I also contemplated putting Favre in but then re-read the rules and saw you wanted it based on recent performance. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,317 ✭✭✭HigginsJ


    1. Aaron Rodgers
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Drew Brees
    4. Ben Roethlisberger
    5. Tom Brady
    6. Eli Manning
    7. Jay Cutler
    8. Michael Vick
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Matt Stafford


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭FreeOSCAR


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Ben Roethilsberger
    5. Drew Brees
    7. Mike Vick
    8. Philip Rivers
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Mark Sanchez


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭davyjose


    P. Manning
    Brady
    Brees
    Rodgers
    Rivers
    Roethlisberger
    E. Manning
    Bradford
    Stafford
    Schaub


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    For me im similar to Frostie

    1. Manning, Brady, Brees
    2. Rodgers (There will be 4 at 1 next season me thinks)
    3. Big Ben, Rivers, Eli
    4. Everyone else.

    For me you can't clearly put any of them at 1 on their own. Too many reasons for and against.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,923 ✭✭✭Mr. Guappa


    TaosHum wrote: »
    Its actually one of the easier positions to make a top 10. Starting to think though I should have thrown Eli in there somewhere. Has proven more than the likes of Ryan and Freeman.

    I think those guys have huge potential and even now very good QB's, but maybe Eli deserves to be in there.

    Yeah, Eli is a strange one. He probably gets harshly judged because of who his brother is. He has led his team to a Superbowl from the 6th seed which is a great achievement. On the other hand, he had a huge number of INT's last season, and everytime I watched the Giants he was so inconsistent. In the end I ranked based on who I would want at QB for a 2-minute drill, and who I would want as QB of my team, and I had 10 others ahead of Eli.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,021 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    1. Peyton Manning
    2. Tom Brady
    3. Phillip Rivers
    4. Aaron Rogers
    5. Drew Brees
    6. Matt Ryan
    7. Ben Rothlisberger
    8. Michael Vick
    9. Sam Bradford
    10. Matt Schuab

    11. Andrew Luck :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Tougher then I thought towards the bottom, some good QB's not on the list.

    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Drew Bress
    5. Ben Rothlesberger
    6. Philip Rivers
    7. Matt Ryan
    8. Mike Vick
    9. Matt Schuab
    10. Josh Freeman


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭The Munky


    1. Rodgers
    2. Brady
    3. Manning
    4. Rivers
    5. Brees
    6. Romo
    7. Ryan
    8. Freeman
    9. Big Ben, purely cos I can't spell Roethlisberger
    10. Orton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Lionbacker


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Peyton Manning
    3. Aaron Rodgers
    4. Drew Brees
    5. Phillip Rivers
    6. Michael Vick
    7. Ben Roethlisberger
    8. Matt Shuab
    9. Matt Ryan
    10. Matthew Stafford


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭cathalio11


    I would most definitely put Matt Cassel in the Top 10


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    1) Tom Brady
    2) Peyton Manning
    3) Aaron Rodgers
    4) Ben Roethlisberger
    5) Philip Rivers
    6) Drew Brees
    7) Josh Freeman
    8) Sam Bradford
    9) Mike Vick
    10) Matt Ryan


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 209 ✭✭Torlac


    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Mike Vick
    5. Mark Sanchez
    6. Ben Roethilsberger
    7. Philip Rivers
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Drew Brees


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,002 ✭✭✭f1dan


    Torlac wrote: »
    1. Tom Brady
    2. Aaron Rodgers
    3. Peyton Manning
    4. Mike Vick
    5. Mark Sanchez
    6. Ben Roethilsberger
    7. Philip Rivers
    8. Matt Ryan
    9. Josh Freeman
    10. Drew Brees

    Wait, Drew Brees at 10???

    Mark Sanchez at 5???

    Here's my top 10:

    1. Peyton Manning
    2. Tom Brady
    3. Aaron Rodgers
    4. Drew Brees
    5. Ben Roethlisberger
    6. Phillip Rivers
    7. Michael Vick
    8. Tony Romo
    9. Matt Ryan
    10. Joe Flacco


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭me-skywalker


    1. Brady
    2. Rodgers
    3. P.Manning
    4. Brees
    5. Roethlisberger
    6. Rivers
    7. Vick
    8. Flacco
    9. E.Manning
    10. Sanchez

    I like Flacco think he has alot of improvement in him!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I'll get back to the rest of the positions after the Draft game has finished, don't want too many of these things going on at once! :) We'll be glad to have some positions left to entertain us on the far side of the draft!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,017 ✭✭✭Leslie91


    1. P Manning
    2. Brady
    3. Rivers tied
    3. Rodgers tied
    5. Brees
    6. Ryan
    7. Big Ben
    8. Bradford
    9. Freeman
    10. McNabb

    Really struggled on no. 10. On his day McNabb is a better QB than Vick, Romo, Cutler, Eli etc. For me Stafford is unproven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    1. Brady
    2. Manning
    3. Rogers
    4. Vick
    5. Roethlisberger (sp)
    6. Rivers
    7. Brees
    8. Ryan
    9. Bradford
    10. Cutler

    Found it easy enough until coming towards the end. I probably haven't seen enough of them all - i.e. 10+ full games - to comment on the likes of Freeman and Stafford.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 526 ✭✭✭WakeyTyke


    Here is an interesting analysis from Vic Ketchman, 39-year veteran reporter on the NFL who recently became editor of the packer.com website.


    15. David Garrard—I’ve always liked him and if he could eliminate his bad days and his bad throws, he’d be much higher on this list. Garrard has had pedestrian receivers and bad pass-protection, yet, he has managed to put up decent numbers.
    14. Matt Cassel—He’s got game; more game than for which I gave him credit when Kansas City traded for him. Can he make all of the throws? That’s the question I have about him.
    13. Josh Freeman—Big, strong-armed, young quarterback on the rise. He came out of nowhere last season to jump into the top six of the passer rankings. I wanna wait on him a little more before I move him up the rankings, but I also believe that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
    12. Mark Sanchez—You don’t measure this guy by passer ratings. Sanchez has winner written all over him. He has an undeniable resilience and I’ll tell you what I like best about him: He’s already 4-2 in the postseason in just his first two pro seasons and he’s already taken down Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in the postseason. That’s what I respect in a quarterback. When he learns how to play the position, look out.
    11. Eli Manning—He’s got a Super Bowl title under his belt and he beat Brady on sports’ biggest stage and that’s deserving of respect, but it’s time to expect more out of him more often. Has he leveled? I’m starting to wonder.
    10. Joe Flacco—At times, he has appeared to be on the verge of becoming one of the game’s big-time passers, but then he does things such as getting sacked and stripped by Troy Polamalu, and not getting it done in the playoffs in Pittsburgh last season after having a big lead handed to him, and that kind of leaves me cold. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt but I don’t get the sense that his teammates believe in him.
    9. Matt Schaub—As good a pure passer as there is in the game. When he gets hot, he makes it look easy. He’s had his breakout years, now he needs some playoff years. That’s the next level for him.
    8. Michael Vick—He was better than ever last season and he became much more than a runner that throws; he became, for the first time in his career, a passer that runs. Was it a fluke or will he continue his recovery and rise?
    7. Matt Ryan—I love this guy but I have no choice but to drop him in my rankings after a poor performance against the Packers in the playoffs and an 0-2 playoff start to his career. The Falcons went all-out to get him another weapon, and the expectation should be for Julio Jones to take Ryan to a higher level.
    6. Drew Brees—I saw signs last year that opposing defenses are challenging Brees’ lack of arm strength. They made him make throws he really can’t make. Be that as it may, he offset his 22 interceptions (ouch!) with 33 touchdown passes and he remains the difference-maker for the Saints franchise.
    5. Philip Rivers—Hate his throwing motion but love his production and moxie. Rivers had a sensational season, finishing No. 2 in passer rating and leading the league in yards passing. He’s a great statistical passer; now he needs to start winning big games.
    4. Ben Roethlisberger—He rallied from offseason problems that threatened his career and his status in the locker room. “Big Ben” takes a licking and keeps on ticking, as he did at the end of last season when a broken foot forced him to wear an oversized shoe with a metal plate in it. He wore it in big games down the stretch and through the postseason. He limped through and played poorly in the first half of the Super Bowl, but he was poised to make one of his late-game charges when Rashard Mendenhall fumbled.
    3. Peyton Manning—His numbers fell in 2010 and he came within a rating point of falling out of the top 10 passers in the league, but he’s still the most feared quarterback in the game. Be that as it may, he’s going to start facing some scrutiny. Are his best years behind him? Is this all there is?
    2. Tom Brady—When Brady lit up the Steelers on Sunday Night Football, he not only proved he was all the way back, he gave cause to believe he was better than ever. So which is it, the lights-out performance against the Steelers or the stinker he played against the Jets in the postseason? I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, for now, but Brady is going to start facing questions, too.
    1. Aaron Rodgers—Call me a homer, but there’s no doubt in my mind that Rodgers is the best quarterback in the game. Not only does he have the title to prove it, he was also the league’s third-ranked passer last season and, in the postseason, he left them all in the dust, including Vick, Ryan and Roethlisberger. Rodgers is the perfect blend of youth, talent and maturity. He’s going to be “The Man” in this league for a long, long time.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,067 ✭✭✭tallaghtoutlaws


    WakeyTyke wrote: »
    Here is an interesting analysis from Vic Ketchman, 39-year veteran reporter on the NFL who recently became editor of the packer.com website.


    15. David Garrard—I’ve always liked him and if he could eliminate his bad days and his bad throws, he’d be much higher on this list. Garrard has had pedestrian receivers and bad pass-protection, yet, he has managed to put up decent numbers.
    14. Matt Cassel—He’s got game; more game than for which I gave him credit when Kansas City traded for him. Can he make all of the throws? That’s the question I have about him.
    13. Josh Freeman—Big, strong-armed, young quarterback on the rise. He came out of nowhere last season to jump into the top six of the passer rankings. I wanna wait on him a little more before I move him up the rankings, but I also believe that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
    12. Mark Sanchez—You don’t measure this guy by passer ratings. Sanchez has winner written all over him. He has an undeniable resilience and I’ll tell you what I like best about him: He’s already 4-2 in the postseason in just his first two pro seasons and he’s already taken down Philip Rivers, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in the postseason. That’s what I respect in a quarterback. When he learns how to play the position, look out.
    11. Eli Manning—He’s got a Super Bowl title under his belt and he beat Brady on sports’ biggest stage and that’s deserving of respect, but it’s time to expect more out of him more often. Has he leveled? I’m starting to wonder.
    10. Joe Flacco—At times, he has appeared to be on the verge of becoming one of the game’s big-time passers, but then he does things such as getting sacked and stripped by Troy Polamalu, and not getting it done in the playoffs in Pittsburgh last season after having a big lead handed to him, and that kind of leaves me cold. I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt but I don’t get the sense that his teammates believe in him.
    9. Matt Schaub—As good a pure passer as there is in the game. When he gets hot, he makes it look easy. He’s had his breakout years, now he needs some playoff years. That’s the next level for him.
    8. Michael Vick—He was better than ever last season and he became much more than a runner that throws; he became, for the first time in his career, a passer that runs. Was it a fluke or will he continue his recovery and rise?
    7. Matt Ryan—I love this guy but I have no choice but to drop him in my rankings after a poor performance against the Packers in the playoffs and an 0-2 playoff start to his career. The Falcons went all-out to get him another weapon, and the expectation should be for Julio Jones to take Ryan to a higher level.
    6. Drew Brees—I saw signs last year that opposing defenses are challenging Brees’ lack of arm strength. They made him make throws he really can’t make. Be that as it may, he offset his 22 interceptions (ouch!) with 33 touchdown passes and he remains the difference-maker for the Saints franchise.
    5. Philip Rivers—Hate his throwing motion but love his production and moxie. Rivers had a sensational season, finishing No. 2 in passer rating and leading the league in yards passing. He’s a great statistical passer; now he needs to start winning big games.
    4. Ben Roethlisberger—He rallied from offseason problems that threatened his career and his status in the locker room. “Big Ben” takes a licking and keeps on ticking, as he did at the end of last season when a broken foot forced him to wear an oversized shoe with a metal plate in it. He wore it in big games down the stretch and through the postseason. He limped through and played poorly in the first half of the Super Bowl, but he was poised to make one of his late-game charges when Rashard Mendenhall fumbled.
    3. Peyton Manning—His numbers fell in 2010 and he came within a rating point of falling out of the top 10 passers in the league, but he’s still the most feared quarterback in the game. Be that as it may, he’s going to start facing some scrutiny. Are his best years behind him? Is this all there is?
    2. Tom Brady—When Brady lit up the Steelers on Sunday Night Football, he not only proved he was all the way back, he gave cause to believe he was better than ever. So which is it, the lights-out performance against the Steelers or the stinker he played against the Jets in the postseason? I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, for now, but Brady is going to start facing questions, too.
    1. Aaron Rodgers—Call me a homer, but there’s no doubt in my mind that Rodgers is the best quarterback in the game. Not only does he have the title to prove it, he was also the league’s third-ranked passer last season and, in the postseason, he left them all in the dust, including Vick, Ryan and Roethlisberger. Rodgers is the perfect blend of youth, talent and maturity. He’s going to be “The Man” in this league for a long, long time.

    Vic Ketchman would say anything to get on the good side of Packers fans. When he was the Jags editor he wrote some abysmal articles which were as deluded as idiot Jags fans. You know those fans every club has that everyone hates right? Guys who get facts wrong or see too far into things and generally make fools of themselves around other fans. Just google his name and you will see what I mean. Seems like he is trying too hard to get in with the fans.

    Putting Rodgers at 1 clearly shows his Bias right now and he is truly just trying to lick the holes of Packers fans. Don't get me wrong Rodgers doesn't have far to go until he is considered the same or better than Brady and Manning but he isn't there just yet.

    Look what he say about Sanchez and then look what he says about Vick. By his own reasoning surely Sanchez should be up where Vick is?

    And Drew Brees behind big Ben and Rivers? :eek: I know this guy has been reporting in the NFL for years but come on Rivers is awesome and Big Ben is solid but they are no Drew Brees.

    I have a fair few of his articles in my time and I hope he doesn't carry the same nonsense with him from his Jags days. He used to be a really solid writer but in recent years he went to just being meh :D

    Love to see what you Jags fans on here think of him.


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