Rocksmith

Mr E

Music games aren't dead, they're just evolving.
This sounds pretty cool (if done well).
Good luck to them against Rock Band, though....

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-03-15-ubisoft-announces-guitar-game-rocksmith

Guitar Hero is dead and Rock Band faces an uncertain future, but for game company Ubisoft the music genre is still very much alive.

It's just announced Rocksmith, a game that comes with a real electric guitar and features songs from the Rolling Stones and Nirvana.

"Guitar Hero is a party game. Rocksmith is a music experience," Ubisoft senior vice president of marketing Tony Key told The Hollywood Reporter.

Ubisoft reckons Rocksmith will teach players how to play the guitar – this, it says, makes it a game with "benefits". It is said to play like Guitar Hero and Rock Band, but you're strumming and picking actual notes and chords on real strings. The game learns your abilities as you play and "adjusts gently" to help you learn.

It comes with a standard input jack that can plug "most" electric guitars into a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360. The Nintendo Wii is not supported.

Apparently Ubisoft is negotiating with Gibson and others to sell a $200 (£124) version of the game that would come bundled with an electric guitar.

45 songs are expected on the disc, including tracks from the Rolling Stones, David Bowie, Nirvana and the Animals. Game's due out in September.

Ubisoft hopes Rocksmith will fill the music gap that emerged following Activision and Viacom's exit from the genre.

Activision killed the Hero franchise last month following poor sales of Guitar Hero: Warriors of Rock, a move that followed MTV Games owner Viacom's decision to let Rock Band maker Harmonix buy its independence.

"The dream of playing guitar compared to how many follow through - there's a big gap," Key said. "We will create a new generation of guitar players."

Rocksmith is due to be released Sep 2011 on PlayStation 3, and Xbox 360.

calex71

Wow just wow is all that comes to mind reading that. Wow at their ignorance or stupidity or both

They seem to have never heard of rock band 3 and are presenting this as a totally new revolutionary concept. Not only has Rock Band 3 done it but Power Gig: Rise Of the Six string did it too and look how well that did, hell look at how well Rock Band 3 did.

Even if ubisoft do a better job with getting the instruments to market and subsequent availability to average Jo/e punter no way are the majority of folks willing to prob 200 quid on new instruments for something that will likely die off a month after release.

Mind you they have single handly beaten rockband 3 with the ability to use any guitar

calex71

Found these , gives nothing away though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAP-IvVXoHM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYzoavA8B_8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx0S4FYip-k

D4RK ONION

Okay, fair enough, it's awesome that you can use any guitar, if it's cheap I'll jump on it and all... But their blurb and those videos make it sound like they've never heard of this little dev. named Harmonix? :P

Interesting to see how this goes though. If RB3 could make support for any guitar I'd be happy. But then, maybe there's reasons they didn't do that in the first place... Time will tell.

Mr E

For promos, those went a long way towards convincing me. This looks really promising. Doesn't hurt that Chantel was easy on the eye too.

Here is another trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSx1R-kKuM4

calex71

See this was something that occurred me as well, why didnt RB do this too

From my limited knowledge and from looking at the videos the guitars just seem to use a cable, now a guitar is an analog device so simple connecting like that serves no purpose with out a midi pickup surely ? And not that I have seen work in the way they show in that video, all have been actual pickups fitted next to the bridge of the guitar.

Nockz

I want to like this but the UI looks like bawls. Are those lego bricks floating above some notes? I am curious to see the implentation as how would the game differentiate the signal as being that of a guitar as opposed to a keyboard I could plug in with the same jack? Reeks of uncertainty

Banjo

If you can't wait then go on to the LittleBigStar site, click on the JamOrigin banner and sign up for the OffBeat guitar beta. It's basically the same thing but you have to source your own songs (GP5 format tabs, Ogg format music)

Banjo Fella

calex71 wrote: »

From my limited knowledge and from looking at the videos the guitars just seem to use a cable, now a guitar is an analog device so simple connecting like that serves no purpose with out a midi pickup surely ?

It's possible that they're using software to take a Fourier transform of the audio output from the guitar - that would allow you to tell the constituent frequencies of whatever the guitarist is playing. It's not as accurate as having an analogue-to-MIDI pickup associated with each string, but it should work. If it does, I really hope Harmonix patch in some support for RB3! It'd be a way cheaper alternative to the Squier/Mustang.

Nockz

Banjo Fella wrote: »

It's possible that they're using software to take a Fourier transform of the audio output from the guitar - that would allow you to tell the constituent frequencies of whatever the guitarist is playing. It's not as accurate as having an analogue-to-MIDI pickup associated with each string, but it should work. If it does, I really hope Harmonix patch in some support for RB3! It'd be a way cheaper alternative to the Squier/Mustang.

Sounds impressive but I doubt there will be patches unless they form some sort of arrangement.

Banjo Fella

Nockz wrote: »

Sounds impressive but I doubt there will be patches unless they form some sort of arrangement.

That's probably true... they supported Guitar Hero controllers with most of their titles, though, so you never know. Hopefully!

padair

http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/16/ubisofts-rocksmith-aims-to-prove-anyone-can-play-guitar/

I just found this this morning. The latest video from south by south west looks dammed cool. I think I will wait and see before I buy. If I can get a copy of the game without a gutar I would be happy.

Mr E

padair's vid from above... This game is starting to look like the real deal!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYTvdvKkpDs

calex71

Wow the charting looks 100x more intuitive than RB pro mode :eek:

calex71

Songs confirmed are

• The Animals – House of the Rising Sun
• Best Coast – When I'm With You
• The Black Keys – I Got Mine
• Blur – Song 2
• The Black Keys – Next Girl
• The Boxer Rebellion – Step Out Of The Car
• Cream – Sunshine Of Your Love
• The Cribs – We Share The Same Skies
• The Cure – Boys Don't Cry
• David Bowie – Rebel Rebel
• Jenny O – Well OK Honey
• Interpol – Slow Hands
• Lynyrd Skynyrd – Sweet Home Alabama
• Nirvana – Breed
• Nirvana – In Bloom
• Pixies – Where Is My Mind?
• Radiohead – High and Dry
• Red Fang – Number Thirteen
• The Rolling Stones – The Spider and the Fly
• The Rolling Stones – (I Can't Get No) Satisfaction
• Silversun Pickups – Panic Switch
• Soundgarden - Outshined
• Spoon – Me and The Bean
• Stone Temple Pilots – Vasoline
• Taddy Porter – Mean Bitch
• Titus Andronicus – A More Perfect Union
• White Denim – Burnished
• The White Stripes – Icky Thump
• Yellow Moon Band - Chimney

Not particularly impressed by the list so far.

padair

calex71 wrote: »

Songs confirmed are



Not particularly impressed by the list so far.

Loving the lineup, load of good american bands.

calex71

padair wrote: »

Loving the lineup, load of good american bands.

Ah it's not that they are not good songs, it's just the list has more than a few of the "Old Reliables" from Rock Band / Guitar Hero games that I'm sick of seeing in music games.

Grumpypants

Just got the latest Ubisoft release shedule and it had no sign of Rock smith, double checked with Ubi and it turns out its only getting a US release in September.

D4RK ONION

Grumpypants wrote: »

Just got the latest Ubisoft release shedule and it had no sign of Rock smith, double checked with Ubi and it turns out its only getting a US release in September.

That sucks some serious ass. Europe gets jilted once more

calex71

Could be region free hopefully

Grumpypants

Set to come out here (well the UK anyway) in the Fall so i guess Octoberish

calex71

some gameplay / charting / propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GV-3s7zrLek

Might be better if you were actually playing it but those charts confused the hell out of me, and I know freebird

D4RK ONION

Lol, that looks appalling. Would love to eat my words, but I doubt I will. :P

calex71

D4RK ONION wrote: »

Lol, that looks appalling. Would love to eat my words, but I doubt I will. :P

I'll pick it up when it inevitably hits the bargain bins. Also I saw somewhere that bass will not be supported but will be patched in at a later stage.

Chardee MacDennis

any update on this? Ubisoft were saying 2012 for Europe last I saw.

What are the chances the US version wont be region locked?

padair

BastardPrince wrote: »

any update on this? Ubisoft were saying 2012 for Europe last I saw.

What are the chances the US version wont be region locked?

I thought all games were region free..?

Nockz

The UI is sooooo weird. What's with the floating lego blocks?

If only RB had tat tech though... if only...

calex71

Nockz wrote: »

The UI is sooooo weird. What's with the floating lego blocks?

If only RB had tat tech though... if only...

Yeah and appart from DLC all has been quiet from them, they seem more ivented in dance central these days

Nockz

calex71 wrote: »

Yeah and appart from DLC all has been quiet from them, they seem more ivented in dance central these days

But they just released word of Dream Theater, Coldplay, Breaking Benjamin and Stevie Wonder DLC. Can't all be bad

calex71

Nockz wrote: »

But they just released word of Dream Theater, Coldplay, Breaking Benjamin and Stevie Wonder DLC. Can't all be bad

Theres been some great stuff out recently , the Slipknot stuff was great even though im not a fan, and Blink 182 next week, those are always fun to play especially on drums.

padair

calex71 wrote: »

Theres been some great stuff out recently , the Slipknot stuff was great even though im not a fan, and Blink 182 next week, those are always fun to play especially on drums.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/10/12/rocksmith-delayed-in-europe/

The game will not support pal tvs. I was going to get my flat mate to get me this when he hits the states in a month. How can I find out if the game will work on my TV.?

calex71

padair wrote: »

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2011/10/12/rocksmith-delayed-in-europe/

The game will not support pal tvs. I was going to get my flat mate to get me this when he hits the states in a month. How can I find out if the game will work on my TV.?

You can, in the display options on the xbox check if you can set the xbox to 60hz and see if it works, most modern lcd /hdtv's will support this mode.

You just need to make sure the disc itself if region free. If it's region locked it won't work over here on a PAL console.

Edit: Just read the link , xbox is NOT region free, but ps3 is but DLC will not work if bought from EU store.
I'd hold off for a few months.

padair

calex71 wrote: »

You can, in the display options on the xbox check if you can set the xbox to 60hz and see if it works, most modern lcd /hdtv's will support this mode.

You just need to make sure the disc itself if region free. If it's region locked it won't work over here on a PAL console.

Edit: Just read the link , xbox is NOT region free, but ps3 is but DLC will not work if bought from EU store.
I'd hold off for a few months.

Will this work on a PS3 if it region free? I have a US PS3 account but I do not buy much from it. Mostly its used for demos.

calex71

padair wrote: »

Will this work on a PS3 if it region free? I have a US PS3 account but I do not buy much from it. Mostly its used for demos.

I'm not a ps3 man so can only speculate, but it will only be an issue if you want dlc in which case you put points/credit on the us account and buy from that one. Don't know if they IP lock content or anything like that, for example on xbox the UK/US have last fm but I still can't access it with a US account as they use my IP address to check where I am from, DLC and region free games is usually ok though.

Maybe double check over in the PS3 forums as to how they do it, can't hurt.

calex71

So info on the European delay, if true Ubisoft are a bunch of idiots.

http://www.trueachievements.com/n5908/rocksmith-delayed-in-europe.htm

padair

calex71 wrote: »

So info on the European delay, if true Ubisoft are a bunch of idiots.

http://www.trueachievements.com/n5908/rocksmith-delayed-in-europe.htm

I agree, I am sure they could come to a simple agreement or even change the name. "Rocksmit the Game"

padair

Took the gamble and I have ordered this game. Fingers crossed I will have the game in 8-9 days. I will keep you folks up to date with how it plays.

Professey Chin

My copy arrived today.
I'll admit 1 thing straight off the bat. It works and it works pretty well.
Havent noticed any lag yet but I might as I get better (I cant play a guitar for sh!t which is part of the reason I got this. Put that thing Ive had for years to use :pac:)
Menus and general interface are pretty plain and basic but it does come across as more tutorial then game. Dont expect crazy characters and being booed off the stage (although you do notice the crowd gets bored the worse you do)
UI is very simple to understand. Each string is a different colour and a colour co-ordinated block for each string comes down the fret line. You even get a little sticker pack for your guitar neck indicating fret numbers.
Havent tried any of the mini-games yet but I will tonight.
Amp mode looks great for good players with loads of unlockable guitars/effects pedals.
Great intro tutorial to show you through tuning and a quick tuner section before every song seems handy although may get repetitive.
Loading times are a bit slow but not enough to get really irritating yet.

Any other questions ask away :pac:

Nockz

Mini games look really good. Will have to try pick this up... or order in

calex71

How clean is the output sound in amp mode? I've seen iphone setups that did this pretty well and had Marshall amp effects and all but it really depended on the size and quality of the headphones or speakers used.

padair

calex71 wrote: »

How clean is the output sound in amp mode? I've seen iphone setups that did this pretty well and had Marshall amp effects and all but it really depended on the size and quality of the headphones or speakers used.

I must have missed amp mode. What is amp mode? <runs off to google it>

Professey Chin

calex71 wrote: »

How clean is the output sound in amp mode? I've seen iphone setups that did this pretty well and had Marshall amp effects and all but it really depended on the size and quality of the headphones or speakers used.

Seems clean enough. Not noticed any heavy distortion or lag but I also have fcuk all unlocked and cant play a thing so I could be completely wrong :pac:

padair wrote: »

I must have missed amp mode. What is amp mode? <runs off to google it>

Basically free play. You can unlock loads of different guitars and effects pedals and this is just a way to play around with them all.
Does what it says, turns your console into an amp. Although standing on the controller for an effects pedal might be a bad idea :pac:

padair

Mega Chin wrote: »

Seems clean enough. Not noticed any heavy distortion or lag but I also have fcuk all unlocked and cant play a thing so I could be completely wrong :pac:



Basically free play. You can unlock loads of different guitars and effects pedals and this is just a way to play around with them all.
Does what it says, turns your console into an amp. Although standing on the controller for an effects pedal might be a bad idea :pac:

They are going to be releasing a pedal that can be plugged in

brianon

This looks amazing. Reviews seem good. Pity about the delay

Good review here.
http://ie.ign.com/videos/2011/10/21/rocksmith-video-review?objectid=103235

Seems like it would suit me. I have a guitar gathering (cause I can't play it for s**t) dust beside my desk

padair

Copy arrived from Canada this morning. I like the way I did not have to pay any import duty with vidergames+. looking forward to getting out of work to go home and play it. Fingers crossed I have strings on my Guitar at home :-)

padair

Played my first day on this and jeasus my fingers are sore. I am playing on a semi acoustic and the strings are a little high. THis guitar is probable not the best for getting down past the 12th fret or maybe that is just me. Looking good so far. I thought I knew a few things with the guitar but I can now confirm that I am a beginner :eek: ..

Professey Chin

Now im back from holidays (and have a lot of Arkham City beaten) I can finally start playing this properly as of yesterday
My hand hurts

Grumpypants

Rocksmith has gotten its Irish release date 14th of September.


http://www.bone-idle.ie/index.php/get-ready-to-rock-with-rocksmith/

calex71

Grumpypants wrote: »

Rocksmith has gotten its Irish release date 14th of September.


http://www.bone-idle.ie/index.php/get-ready-to-rock-with-rocksmith/

Shocking that they actually battled the legal action and wasted a year in getting this released here, can't find the links now but the EU version will have bonus songs. Who wants to bet they are by a band called Rocksmith

If they had simply given into this demand by the guy in the 1st place we would have had this last year !!!!!!

RodVelvet

Anyone know if this is still slated to be released next month? Is it true that there are issues with the PS3 version?

Anyone think bandfuse might be a better bet when it's released.

calex71

28th of September I think , not sure about issues, but given the length of time it's been out in the US surely any issues should have been ironed out by now.