Where did the big bang take place.

yammycat

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

cursai

According to the atheists it was science, but don't ask what science or how. It just did, like a leap of faith!

Galvasean

cursai wrote: »

According to the atheists it was science, but don't ask what science or how. It just did, like a leap of faith!

Gah, I hate it when a know it all (despite knowing sweet feck all) theist gets the first response and uses it as an opportunity to be smug.

Morgase

Surely the Physics and Chemistry forum is a better place to ask this question.

Galvasean

Galvasean wrote: »

Gah, I hate it when a know it all (despite knowing sweet feck all) theist gets the first response and uses it as an opportunity to be smug.

especially when they're just so wrong

c_man

cursai wrote: »

According to the atheists it was science, but don't ask what science or how. It just did, like a leap of faith!

Yeah, it's not like there's any work going on in the world dealing with that theory and expanding on it.

*snore*

cursai

Galvasean wrote: »

Gah, I hate it when a know it all (despite knowing sweet feck all) theist gets the first response and uses it as an opportunity to be smug.

Thats very insulting! For a thread on a forum! I should report you!

enfant terrible

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

The more interesting thing is time did not exist before the big bang.

cursai

enfant terrible wrote: »

The more interesting thing is time did not exist before the big bang.

Time is invented so it existed in the same form it does now! It just wasn't taken account of no?

Ickle Magoo

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

Time and space were created with the big bang, there is no definitive answer of what existed prior to that...in terms of where in our universe the big bang happened, the answer would be everywhere.

Galvasean

cursai wrote: »

Thats very insulting! For a thread on a forum! I should report you!

Go right ahead. If you feel the post was out of order you have every right to report it. Such is boards.ie's dispute resolution process.

cursai

......big man.

Gregor Samsa

cursai wrote: »

Time is invented so it existed in the same form it does now! It just wasn't taken account of no?

Huh? Time isn't (wasn't) "invented" - it's an integral dimension of the universe, just like length or height.

Pygmalion

yammycat wrote: »

Anybody know ?

No, and don't let anyone convince you otherwise without a hell of a lot of proof.

gman2k

There was no 'before' the big bang either, as time and space are part of the one - spacetime.
The word 'before' denotes a time span.
There was no 'where' also before the big bang due to spacetime.
That's one of the current theories anyway, there are other viewpoints

Dades

Any more silliness in this thread from anyone and it may get swallowed by a black hole.

OP, if you really want answers you might be better asking here.
All you'll get anywhere though is speculation and opinion.

Gordon

yammycat wrote: »

where did it take place.

In the middle of the universe.

TwoShedsJackson

cursai wrote: »

According to the atheists it was science, but don't ask what science or how. It just did, like a leap of faith!

'A wizard did it' sounds so much more sensible...

MagicMarker

Just outside Limerick.

Zombrex

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

The Big Bang was this universe but in a different state. There was not space, so "where" is not a term that applies.

magicbastarder

it took place everywhere. which means it took place inside your head.

Doctor DooM

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

In answer: No.

In response: What has this got to do with atheism, which is the lack of belief in gods?

To pre-empt: Just because we don't know doesn't mean it is logical to assume God did it. I don't know how my lunch today was cooked or by who, but I am not assuming that "God did it" is an equally plausible answer to any other because I lack that knowledge.

shadowcomplex

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

Optimus Primes Arse

cosmicfart

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

its believed there is more than one universe so perhaps the other one exploded and we are what is left. Deep.

enfant terrible

cosmicfart wrote: »

its believed there is more than one universe so perhaps the other one exploded and we are what is left. Deep.

Its not believed its theorized.

cosmicfart

enfant terrible wrote: »

Its not believed its theorized.

ooooohhhhhhhh! lets not mince words here then regarding the cosmos, its all theorized although the person theorizing might actually believe he/she is onto something

enfant terrible

cosmicfart wrote: »

ooooohhhhhhhh! lets not mince words here then regarding the cosmos, its all theorized although the person theorizing might actually believe he/she is onto something

I don't think most cosmologists take the multiverse very seriously.

JimiTime

In the beginning, there was nothing, and it exploded. c'mon, this is simple people:rolleyes:

MagicMarker

JimiTime wrote: »

In the beginning, there was nothing, and it exploded. c'mon, this is simple people:rolleyes:

Glad to see you're seeing sense.

JimiTime

MagicMarker wrote: »

Glad to see you're seeing sense.

Zombrex

JimiTime wrote: »

In the beginning, there was nothing, and it exploded. c'mon, this is simple people:rolleyes:

And then the universe had butt sex with a squirel :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2QO3c9JL1A

cosmicfart

enfant terrible wrote: »

I don't think most cosmologists take the multiverse very seriously.

lol your getting to Star Trekky for me here mate what do they call people who study the 'multiverse' then, Spockologists?

enfant terrible

cosmicfart wrote: »

lol your getting to Star Trekky for me here mate what do they call people who study the 'multiverse' then, Spockologists?

Theoretical Physicists

mike65

The universe was invented at the event horizon of a black hole with a singularity.

It began everywhere at the same time, part of the problem is the way cosmology is explained in pictures on TV with colourful exapansion from a singular point being the favoured visual shortcut. Spacetime was created everywhere or indeed nowhere (as there was nothing before hand) and created the plasma then gases in which
particles would form and coalesce into objects that we recognise as the various "heavenly bodies"

Zamboni

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

Reasonable answers so far.
No.
Not yet.
Question is wrong.

My only contribution would be a plea to not use the god of the gaps as in the absence of a scientific answer.

mikhail

Zamboni wrote: »

Reasonable answers so far.
No.
Not yet.
Question is wrong.

My only contribution would be a plea to not use the god of the gaps as in the absence of a scientific answer.

I don't think the question is wrong. Maybe not worded scientifically, but a reasonable question cosmologists would be quite happy to figure out.

Just thinking about it for a moment, I realised that there are people who accept the scientific conclusions, and then (as you say) fill in the gaps with a god. That's awfully flaky; I kind of wonder how anyone could think about that and feel they were totally justified. I guess the real answer is that most people don't think about it, which is kind of pathetic.

oldrnwisr

enfant terrible wrote: »

I don't think most cosmologists take the multiverse very seriously.

Well most cosmologists don't simply because their focus is on understanding the present universe and its development. The study of the multiverse on the other hand falls into the field of cosmogony (as defined by NASA). Within that field there are and have been some great physicists working on explanations of what may exist outside our universe such as Roger Penrose, Brian Greene and Hugh Everett.

goose2005

It took place in the universe. That's the only answer that makes sense. Position can only be determined relative to other bodies, but there were no other bodies then the "where" makes no sense.

cosmicfart

enfant terrible wrote: »

Theoretical Physicists

good call, I learn something new everyday! did you know that already or did you have to google it first?? be honest now if you can!

tricky D

No definitive answer, but here's some phrases to Google:

Creation ex nihilo
Spontaneous creation

which might provide insight

TheGodBen

JimiTime wrote: »

In the beginning, there was nothing, and it exploded. c'mon, this is simple people:rolleyes:

Actually, in the beginning there was everything and that everything resulted in the expansion of space-time, which led to the formation of matter and, eventually, Big Momma's House 3 DVDs. The how is deeply complicated, the why is currently unknown, but some of the smartest people in the world are working on it so we may have an answer in a couple of centuries. I'm willing to wait and see.

MagicMarker

goose2005 wrote: »

It took place in the universe. That's the only answer that makes sense. Position can only be determined relative to other bodies, but there were no other bodies then the "where" makes no sense.

The ''creation'' of the universe took place in the universe? That's the only answer that makes no sense whatsoever.

The only answer that makes sense, imo, is that the big bang happened nowhere.

Zombrex

TheGodBen wrote: »

Actually, in the beginning there was everything and that everything resulted in the expansion of space-time, which led to the formation of matter and, eventually, Big Momma's House 3 DVDs. The how is deeply complicated, the why is currently unknown, but some of the smartest people in the world are working on it so we may have an answer in a couple of centuries. I'm willing to wait and see.

Nothing and everything end up being the same thing, ultimately.

GO_Bear

I am no physicist but are time and space not relative, that is in term of the observer.

With the time dilation and length contraction. Could the big bang have been alot slower then we think ?

Not sure what this has to do with "where" the big bang happened but in theory since space was created at that time would it have not taken place everywhere ?

Turtwig

Well the big bang actually took place where you are right now.

magicbastarder

Malty_T wrote: »

Well the big bang actually took place where you are right now.

sorry. beans for breakfast.

krudler

cosmicfart wrote: »

its believed there is more than one universe so perhaps the other one exploded and we are what is left. Deep.

most apt username for this thread? I think so

Zillah

Malty_T wrote: »

Well the big bang actually took place where you are right now.

This is correct. The Big Bang took place everywhere.

Turtwig

LOL! I just realised this thread wasn't in after hours.:o

yammycat

Did the big bang break the first law of thermodynamics

Adrian009

yammycat wrote: »

The universe is expanding, if you reverse the expansion as you look back in time it gets smaller and smaller until it no longer exists. The big bang didn't occur in this universe it created it so where did it take place.

Anybody know ?

"Near Oranmore/in the county Galway/one pleasant eveining/in the month of May.":D