Gaelofascists strike again.

WalterMitty

http://www.herald.ie/national-news/city-news/gaeilgeoir-protests-delay-new-bus-signs-2578542.html
Feckers.

Biggins

They must have little to do with their spare time!

Tahuti

They should be politely told, mid-recession, to feck off.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Muppeti, the lot of them.

Finally, we try to bring in something to modernise the city, but oh no... we have to be dragged back again...

sensibleken

Cad a tharla? Ní thiguim Bearla!

I can't describe in words how much I am annoyed by this...

Tahuti

Karsini wrote: »

I can't describe in words how much I am annoyed by this...

Do a mime, record it, and post it on youtube.

Sergeant

Damhnait Ui Mhaolduin from one pointless and totally unnecessary quango paid for by the taxpayers of Ireland decides to delay a project being implemented by another taxpayer funded organisation. Classic stuff.

starviewadams

How are people that stupid?finally a bit of progress into (slightly!) modernising public transport and they have to stick their noses in and delay things!

Wibbs

Twats. Not the first time a chunk of this vocal minority have done similar. Remember that O'Cuiv eejit and changing the name of Dingle to "an Daingain" or some such nonsense. An invented name BTW at most it may have been Daingean Ui Chuis. But that's going back a fair way. It would be like some tool changing Dublin to Baile atha cliath without a vote. I have two words for the language nazis, two words involving sex and travel.

Hunchback

I hate the fact that its a further total waste of public money. That said, it should have been anticipated and this problem would be avoided

sensibleken

Wibbs wrote: »

I have two words for the language nazis, two words involving sex and travel.

sex tourist?
ride ride?
molestation airport?

be specific man!

BizzyC

You can equally blame the organisation who put the signs up too soon...there are people employed to make sure these projects fall in line with all of the legislation, the fact that they didn't is wasted taxpayer money....

Seaneh

anyone want to quote the thing for those of us on mobiles?

Morlar

To the best of my knowledge these are not new regulations so how can Dublin bus just 'forget' the Irish language ? Don't they recieve busloads (ahem) of state money ?

By Claire Murphy

Monday March 14 2011

DUBLIN'S real-time bus signs may have to be redesigned after outraged Gaeilgeoiri complained that the signs were not in Irish.

The National Transport Authority (NTA) is investigating the lettering on the signs under the Official Languages Act which requires public bodies to put Irish language text first on signage.

REGULATIONS

Communications manager at the Irish Language Commissioner, Damhnait Ui Mhaolduin confirmed the office was obliged to investigate.

"There are regulations with regard to the use of Irish on the signage of public bodies," he said. It's anticipated that the changes could add more to the cost of the final project as well as delay the launch date.

The NTA had hoped that the electronic signs would be in place in Dublin by the end of the year and expanded to Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford by next year.

A total of 450 are being rolled out across Dublin this month.

The signs are already in place on the Luas light-rail system and DART which enable commuters to get up-to-the-minute bus times from a website or by text.

humanji

sensibleken wrote: »

Cad a tharla? Ní thiguim Bearla!

It's bright enough out, but looks like there might be a little rain on the way.

ejmaztec

Tahuti wrote: »

They should be politely told, mid-recession, to fuck off.

No need to antagonise them with a bit of Anglo-Saxon.:eek:

Morlar

Morlar wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge these are not new regulations so how can Dublin bus just 'forget' the Irish language ? Don't they recieve busloads (ahem) of state money ?

By Claire Murphy

Monday March 14 2011

DUBLIN'S real-time bus signs may have to be redesigned after outraged Gaeilgeoiri complained that the signs were not in Irish.

The National Transport Authority (NTA) is investigating the lettering on the signs under the Official Languages Act which requires public bodies to put Irish language text first on signage.

REGULATIONS

Communications manager at the Irish Language Commissioner, Damhnait Ui Mhaolduin confirmed the office was obliged to investigate.

"There are regulations with regard to the use of Irish on the signage of public bodies," he said. It's anticipated that the changes could add more to the cost of the final project as well as delay the launch date.

The NTA had hoped that the electronic signs would be in place in Dublin by the end of the year and expanded to Cork, Limerick, Galway and Waterford by next year.

A total of 450 are being rolled out across Dublin this month.

The signs are already in place on the Luas light-rail system and DART which enable commuters to get up-to-the-minute bus times from a website or by text.

Maybe privatisation wouldn't be such a bad thing after all.

ejmaztec

humanji wrote: »

It's bright enough out, but looks like there might be a little rain on the way.

He's got a serious keyboard malfunction after some prankster swapped all the keys around.

prinz

New low. Typically backward.

Korvanica

Morlar wrote: »

"There are regulations with regard to the use of Irish on the signage of public bodies,"

So if a slut gets a tattoo... does it have to be in Irish? :pac:

sensibleken

Couldnt they just write it in esperanto so everyone could understand it

wonderfulname

BizzyC wrote: »

You can equally blame the organisation who put the signs up too soon...

Depends on your definition of sign, I doubt anyone thought these would come under the legislation.
In fact the layout is exactly the same as the luas ones, which don't give the destination as gaeilge either:

Bus sign

twinQuins

This is a perfect example of pointless bureaucracy.

Morlar

twinQuins wrote: »

This is a perfect example of pointless bureaucracy.

It looks like a good example of incompetence & waste which will probably go unpunished.

jokettle

I usually have no problem with trying to preserve the Irish language; it's a beautiful language, part of our culture etc. You've heard it all before.

But in this instance, what a waste of time, energy and money! Our cities attract huge numbers of tourists every year who would have at least a smattering of English, and the vast majority of the Irish population speak English either as a first language or a fluent/close-to-fluent second language. It makes practical sense to have these signs in English in order to cater to the masses. That shouldn't need defending!

Having said that, I do agree with a post above which points out that this should have been anticipated. Poor foresight.

Tiny Explosions

Biggins wrote: »

They must have little to do with their spare time!

A bit like you then?:)


Should you not be working in the Dáil today?:rolleyes:

twinQuins

Morlar wrote: »

It looks like a good example of incompetence & waste which will probably go unpunished.

What will adding Irish to the signs accomplish? Yes, yes the Official Languages Act, I know but really what is to be gained in this instance?

wonderfulname

twinQuins wrote: »

What will adding Irish to the signs accomplish? Yes, yes the Official Languages Act, I know but really what is to be gained in this instance?

More negative Euros! Negative Euros for all!

Morlar

twinQuins wrote: »

What will adding Irish to the signs accomplish? Yes, yes the Official Languages Act, I know but really what is to be gained in this instance?

Your argument is that the rules should be changed, mine is that they should be followed until they are.

If they are not then it is going to be costly.

The way to change the rules is not to just ignore them, (talking about public bodies here of the non slutty variety).

Crow92

You can read this over here on this thread, bloody annoying imo, I like irish and all but this is so annoying and aggravating just to read the thread, I wish they'd stop being such annoying activists, bloody go and do some actual good work for the irish language instead of pissing your energy on this.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056068366&page=6

kraggy

The fault here likes solely with the people who are supposed to design and erect the signs correctly.

The Language Commissioners job is to ensure that existing laws are abided by. In this case they were not, so it is the NTA's fault.

Whether or not you agree with the laws is separate to the fact that it's the Language Commissioner's responsibility to see that they are adhered to.

Language Commissioner cannot be blamed in this instance.

Besides this particular case, the amount of incorrect signage erected by City and County Councils in this country is embarassing. Too many times I've seen the fada over the wrong letter and sometimes a fada in a word when there aren't supposed to be any fadas at all.

twinQuins

Morlar wrote: »

Your argument is that the rules should be changed, mine is that they should be followed until they are.

If they are not then it is going to be costly.

The way to change the rules is not to just ignore them, (talking about public bodies here of the non slutty variety).

There comes a time when laws are so ridiculous they shouldn't be followed and, in the end, what moral wrong is perpetrated from not following this one?

Morlar

twinQuins wrote: »

There comes a time when laws are so ridiculous they shouldn't be followed and, in the end, what moral wrong is perpetrated from not following this one?

On the subject of the Irish language - that is just not your call to make.

Wolfe Tone

Dublin bus are the idiots here, the law is there for all to see.

Guy:Incognito

At least now all the people in Dublin that only speak Irish will be able to get a bus.......

hardCopy

Korvanica wrote: »

So if a slut gets a tattoo... does it have to be in Irish? :pac:

Only if she's an organ of the state

Morlar

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Dublin bus are the idiots here, the law is there for all to see.

The way I see it there are a few possibilities, one is that this was a genuine oversight. Kind of hard to believe that one personally. Another possibility was that it was intentional in order to provoke a review of the use of Irish. In either possibility it will be costly and I think the people who are responsible for the oversight/took this decision should be made to pay for it - just this once.

sensibleken

Bloody gaelofascists! First they kill all the jews and now this! Its enough to make you over react

twinQuins

Morlar wrote: »

On the subject of the Irish language - that is just not your call to make.

Yes, thank you for reminding me of something I already know. This is a discussion of the issue, however, so it's interesting to trade opinions. My opinion is that there is nothing to be gained from doing this and there is no moral wrong perpetrated from ignoring the law. No one will be harmed, nothing ill will come of it.

EDIT: At the least it may finally spark a real debate on the relevance of the Act.

stovelid

Karsini wrote: »

I can't describe in words how much I am annoyed by this...

You just did.

squod

It's only a sign. From my point of view it should have been done properly the first time. Sack someone. Then it won't happen again.

Captain Darling

hardCopy wrote: »

Only if she's an organ of the state

Or looking to get a member in her lower house.

Captain_Generic

Crow92 wrote: »

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056068366&page=6

The smugness in that thread is infuriating

biko

Should have been in Irish too to start with but I can see how Dublin bus would have missed it.

syklops

sensibleken wrote: »

Cad a tharla? Ní thiguim Bearla!

I suspect that to be a fib.

Captain_Generic

biko wrote: »

Should have been in Irish too to start with but I can see how Dublin bus would have missed it.

They made the mistake of looking to the future

Wolfe Tone

Morlar wrote: »

The way I see it there are a few possibilities, one is that this was a genuine oversight. Kind of hard to believe that one personally. Another possibility was that it was intentional in order to provoke a review of the use of Irish. In either possibility it will be costly and I think the people who are responsible for the oversight/took this decision should be made to pay for it - just this once.

Dublin bus are hideously incompetent.

sensibleken

syklops wrote: »

I suspect that to be a fib.

*slow clap*

GLaDOS

There's feck all language on them anyway, just the placename and "min" following the time it's gonna take...

Rented Mule

Biggins wrote: »

They must have little to do with their spare time!

Apparently, it is spent waiting for the bus.