A deluded religious nutjob's view on Japan.. Or badly timed troll.

This is a very distasteful video so apologies for that but it will probably go viral so thought I'd post it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UmotTE-VlY

Im Only 71Kg

americans are fu*ckin retarded. i look forward to the day when someone drops the A-bomb on the US.

rockmongrel

Im Only 71Kg wrote: »

americans are fu*ckin retarded. i look forward to the day when someone drops the A-bomb on the US.

You have so painfully missed the point it's horrible. Statements like this easily put you on par with the racists and the idiots who are throwing out this sh!te.

Ghost Buster

Im pretty sure she is a very good and very clever troll.
This is misjudged and tasteless though perhaps.

My name is URL

Look at some of her other videos. I reckon she's taking the piss tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXziHOo_wQ

the video in the OP is disgusting though

also, I still would

Galvasean

"literally grabbed the country by the shoulders"
Countries don't have shoulders.

Minstrel27

What an absolutely retarded bitch.

I flicked through some of her videos and fairly sure she's not trolling.. It's going to backfire on her horribly though whether she is or isn't.

Even if it is a troll, she went too far.

Galvasean

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Im pretty sure she is a very good and very clever troll.
This is misjudged and tasteless though perhaps.

If it is a hoax it's pretty poor f#cking taste TBH.

Smyth

This girl is just trolling

Zulu

She's a troll.

mikemac

Just a troll

Best ignored, not to be taken seriously

murphthesmurf

I imagine she's one of many god fearing religious lunatics who are thinking the exact same thing, but haven't come out and said it.

stimpson

Looks like Anonymous has posted her address/phone number.

This isn't going to end well.

mikemac

They've posted their phone number, name and address up on youtube :eek:

I've seen that a few times on the internet. People get mobilized and find your details.
How they find your details though I do not know

old hippy

Freedom of speech is open to all who can participate, sadly it brings the inepts out of the woodwork.

That includes the second posting on this thread, btw.

smcgiff

stimpson wrote: »

Looks like Anonymous has posted her address/phone number.

This isn't going to end well.

It's okay God has got her back... or she may become a martyr. Either way it's alll good

Columc

She might be a troll, haven't watched the entire video.

However http://www.cadred.org/Images/Gallery/Originals/5528_americans...jpg cant be all trolling, there is a group of Americans really thinking that Japan deserved this, and I just find it quite disturbing!

murphthesmurf

stimpson wrote: »

Looks like Anonymous has posted her address/phone number.

I'm just packing right now.
I'm gonna tell her God told me I must come on her, oops, I mean come to her

Columc

Columc wrote: »

She might be a troll, haven't watched the entire video.

However http://www.cadred.org/Images/Gallery/Originals/5528_americans...jpg cant be all trolling, there is a group of Americans really thinking that Japan deserved this, and I just find it quite disturbing!

Idiots.

old hippy

I wonder what kind of glitch in a person's mental software results in posting such stuff up on hate tube. Be it under the guise of "humour" or whether they believe that kind of bobbins.

PAULWATSON

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Im pretty sure she is a very good and very clever troll.

Trool, no doubt. But as for good, she's not intense enough.

old hippy

PAULWATSON wrote: »

Trool, no doubt. But as for good, she's not intense enough.

Maybe her church could club together and send her out there amongst the devestation and misery to do a spot of preaching, just to see how intense it might be.

Censorsh!t

It's impossible to tell if she's a troll or not. I hope she is, but unfortunately she might be for real.

liah

For god's sake, even if she is a troll what right has Anonymous got for posting her address and phone number everywhere?

Jesus christ, she's not hurting anyone. There's far, far worse people in the world to be targeting right now. The hell is wrong with people?

And why on earth is her address posted here?

tallaghtoutlaws

Im Only 71Kg wrote: »

americans are fu*ckin retarded. i look forward to the day when someone drops the A-bomb on the US.

Talk about irony and a sweeping generalisation of a nation. You are as bad as those muppets saying Japan deserved the Earthquakes and Tsunami.

stimpson

liah wrote: »

For god's sake, even if she is a troll what right has Anonymous got for posting her address and phone number everywhere?

Jesus christ, she's not hurting anyone. There's far, far worse people in the world to be targeting right now. The hell is wrong with people?

And why on earth is her address posted here?

It's just people exercising their right to freedom of speech. The system works!

TheIrishGrover

liah wrote: »

For god's sake, even if she is a troll what right has Anonymous got for posting her address and phone number everywhere?

Jesus christ, she's not hurting anyone. There's far, far worse people in the world to be targeting right now. The hell is wrong with people?

And why on earth is her address posted here?

Haven't watched the video so don't have an opinion on if she's a troll or not. However, as someone else said, she is entitled to her opinion, however distasteful it is (If it is not a troll) and entitled to her sense of humour, again, however distasteful it may be to someone else if it is a troll.

This anonymous group is, in my own opinion, just a sinister as the other groups they find sinister. I find their outing of this girl's address, purely because they chose to take offense, deeply disturbing......... C'mon amonymous (I won't credit ye with a capitalisation), get out your warrior keyboards and out my address and prove me right.


(And, no, I'm not a scientologist or banker or whatever )


And, no, posting that girl's address and details is NOT freedom of speech.

liah

Exactly-- I hate this kind of Anonymous crap. They claim to be all about free speech but only when it's what they want to hear, and they attempt to destroy whatever even remotely irritates them-- harassing children as young as 9, and driving others to suicide.

Internet vigilantism is, frankly, retarded, and Anonymous has absolutely no right to decide who's allowed to speak untouched and who isn't. I don't agree with anything the girl in the video has to say, I'm an atheist after all and think everything she says is wrong. But I'll damn well defend her right to say it; freedom of speech is freedom for everyone, not just who you want to hear.

liah

stimpson wrote: »

It's just people exercising their right to freedom of speech. The system works!

Getting someone's home address in order to harass them isn't free speech at all. It's called harassment.

stimpson

liah wrote: »

Getting someone's home address in order to harass them isn't free speech at all. It's called harassment.

They just posted her address. That's freedom of speech. I don't understand how you can support her right to free speech yet deny someone else the same right because you disagree with their motives.

TheIrishGrover

stimpson wrote: »

They just posted her address. That's freedom of speech. I don't understand how you can support her right to free speech yet deny someone else the same right because you disagree with their motives.

A group called anonymous cannot understand the idea of anonymity?

If the girl wanted her details exposed she would have. Instead a group who value their own anonymity for fear of retribution form others who disagree with them chose to deny the aninymity of someone who disagreed with them in order to expose her to retribution.

stimpson

TheIrishGrover wrote: »

A group called anonymous cannot understand the idea of anonymity?

If the girl wanted her details exposed she would have. Instead a group who value their own anonymity for fear of retribution form others who disagree with them chose to deny the aninymity of someone who disagreed with them in order to expose her to retribution.

If she wanted to be anonymous - she' should have worn a mask, or disguised her name somehow.

I assume that if she's stupid enough to believe in a vengeful god that would smite a nation for not believing in him then she's stupid enough to post her address online with her unique username somewhere online.

liah

stimpson wrote: »

If she wanted to be anonymous - she' should have worn a mask, or disguised her name somehow.

I assume that if she's stupid enough to believe in a vengeful god that would smite a nation for not believing in him then she's stupid enough to post her address online with her unique username somewhere online.

I can almost guarantee that she herself didn't post her address anywhere. Anonymous is a hacker group ffs, you do the math-- they didn't obtain it in a straightforward manner, I can tell you that much, and the reasons for posting her address are clearly to harass her or 'punish' her for daring to say something Anonymous doesn't agree with.

For people who love their own anonymity they are absolutely sickening hypocrites, and frankly, just messed up people.

Im Only 71Kg

rockmongrel wrote: »

You have so painfully missed the point it's horrible. Statements like this easily put you on par with the racists and the idiots who are throwing out this sh!te.

nothing racist about her statement nor mine...she's referring to a natural disaster here. her belief that god was responsible is not racist..she's entitled to her beliefs..america breed people with this mind set. americans are retarded. you got to remember america dropped an A Bomb on civilians..they deserve the same in return.

stimpson

liah wrote: »

I can almost guarantee that she herself didn't post her address anywhere. Anonymous is a hacker group ffs, you do the math-- they didn't obtain it in a straightforward manner, I can tell you that much, and the reasons for posting her address are clearly to harass her or 'punish' her for daring to say something Anonymous doesn't agree with.

For people who love their own anonymity they are absolutely sickening hypocrites, and frankly, just messed up people.

Her user name is tamtampamela. Her name is Pamela and she lives in Tampa. You do the math. It's not as if you have to register your contact details when you set up a youtube account.

Stupid kid goes online to preach religious hate thinking there will be no personal consequences. She'll be no great loss to society.

karma_

liah wrote: »

I can almost guarantee that she herself didn't post her address anywhere. Anonymous is a hacker group ffs, you do the math-- they didn't obtain it in a straightforward manner, I can tell you that much, and the reasons for posting her address are clearly to harass her or 'punish' her for daring to say something Anonymous doesn't agree with.

For people who love their own anonymity they are absolutely sickening hypocrites, and frankly, just messed up people.

In fairness, anyone in their right minds would not agree with this idiot.

Maybe this will teach her that actions have consequences.

Fracture

Im getting the next flight over to America to beat her up.

liah

stimpson wrote: »

Her user name is tamtampamela. Her name is Pamela and she lives in Tampa. You do the math. It's not as if you have to register your contact details when you set up a youtube account.

Stupid kid goes online to preach religious hate thinking there will be no personal consequences. She'll be no great loss to society.

Exactly-- you don't have to register your contact details when you set up a YouTube account, insofar as I seriously doubt her address was there, so how do you reckon they found the right person? There's probably plenty of people in Tampa named Pamela. Pretty popular name in North America.

Anonymous has absolutely no right to harass someone because they disagree with them. She's not harassing anyone else and therefore doesn't deserve to be harassed. End of. Anonymous is wrong, and so is internet vigilantism-- they have no right to decide who gets to say what, and they are not in the position to punish anyone for stating their opinions and beliefs. Especially considering they've driven people (children, even) to suicide. Still think they're great?

karma_ wrote: »

In fairness, anyone in their right minds would not agree with this idiot.

Maybe this will teach her that actions have consequences.

Of course no one would agree with her, but it still doesn't mean the consequences Anonymous are imposing upon her are fair in any way, shape, or form. She is not harassing anyone else, she is posting videos on her own channel with her own opinion and her own beliefs, and that is not a crime. That's called free speech, and everyone is entitled to it without being policed by the government or vigilantes.

Encouraging vigilantism will lead down a very, very slippery slope, and into mob mentality and mob rule-- how would you feel if Anonymous took issue with an opinion you expressed on your own YouTube channel (imagine Anonymous were Christian, and you atheist, in the same scenario) and started harassing you? Would you still be saying actions have consequences and take the months of phone calls, emails, hate mail, vandalism and reputation ruination or would you be invoking freedom of speech because you have a right to express yourself just like everyone else?

Why do you believe Anonymous is right to exact the consequences? Why do you believe it is their place to do so? Why do you believe they should have the right to decide who speaks and who doesn't?

Duggy747

Rule #1 in Internet Usage

Please do not troll the internet, you will be found and any details of you logged on the web since your very 1st day will be brought out in full view of the net.

Anonymous is just a label some individuals go out and mask themselves under like they're fulfilling some right justice in cases like this. "Ooooh, I'll hack a YouTuber or Facebook page and leave a calling card of Anonymous, LOL!"

Whether the girl is being a troll or not the best course of action is to just ignore her............something people can't seem to do anymore without having to get one up on the person. In this case, posting her personal details up on the web which is utterly stupid.

Anon fight for "FREE SPEECH" on the web but in reality they take it upon themselves to police it when they don't agree with individual's views.

liah

It's astonishing to see that people completely don't get why what they do is wrong and actually defend their actions.

Who the hell died and made Anonymous the decider of right and wrong? Did I miss a memo?

MrStuffins

I disagree with what this girl says in the video

I disagree with Anonymous' vigilanteism

But at the end of the day, if you're going to put up videos on You Tube like this one, whether trolling or not trolling, you are looking for a response! Otherwise, why post them? Why not video yourself and keep them on your Hard Drive?

She asked for a response and she's gonna get quite a few. iI have no sympathy for her whatsoever!

karma_

liah wrote: »

It's astonishing to see that people completely don't get why what they do is wrong and actually defend their actions.

Who the hell died and made Anonymous the decider of right and wrong? Did I miss a memo?

Who says this is Anonymous anyway?

Sounds more like a 4Chan job if anything. Anonymous I have found always release a press statement in regard to anything they perform and they were reluctant to get involved in the whole westboro baptist church thing so I doubt very much this is them at all.

Still in saying that I would rather have a world with Anonymous than one without.

liah

Tbh, the Internet is like Vegas. What happens on the internet, stays on the internet. It shouldn't cross over into real life until they're actually doing something legitimately illegal, which she wasn't. I'd support a tirade of internet abuse on her YouTube channel, but posting her home address for the entire world to see is way, way over the line.

MrStuffins

liah wrote: »

Tbh, the Internet is like Vegas. What happens on the internet, stays on the internet. It shouldn't cross over into real life until they're actually doing something legitimately illegal, which she wasn't. I'd support a tirade of internet abuse on her YouTube channel, but posting her home address for the entire world to see is way, way over the line.

Absolutely not! If I send someone a Facebook message calling them a c*nt-headed knob jockey, I fully expect to get called upon it next time I see them.

The Internet is not some imaginary place, it's a medium for communication! It would be like saying "Ah, sure I was on the phone when I said that! What happens on the phone STAYS on the phone!"

jay-me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0UUbANG2r8

She is clearly trolling come on like!!!

MrStuffins

jay-me wrote: »

She is clearly trolling come on like!!!

If so, it makes her Japan video kinda worse!

RichieC

jay-me wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0UUbANG2r8

She is clearly trolling come on like!!!

yep.. has to be.

Jim

Someone linked me to this the other. After some discussion we found her profile on her church's web forum which made her look pretty legit and not a troll. Can't find the link now though

prinz

MrStuffins wrote: »

The Internet is not some imaginary place, it's a medium for communication! It would be like saying "Ah, sure I was on the phone when I said that! What happens on the phone STAYS on the phone!"

Is that why all board user's names and addresses are easily available to all other members then? So next time there is a row you can go round with a hurley and sort it out?

TV and Radio are media for communication but you don't have DJ's and presenters giving out their home address on every programme just so disgruntled viewers/listeners can 'call them' on something they said.

Stupid video but again, don't see what right anyone has to basically make her a target in real life. Some people have little to do with themselves (making the stupid video or posting her info online).

liah

MrStuffins wrote: »

Absolutely not! If I send someone a Facebook message calling them a c*nt-headed knob jockey, I fully expect to get called upon it next time I see them.

The Internet is not some imaginary place, it's a medium for communication! It would be like saying "Ah, sure I was on the phone when I said that! What happens on the phone STAYS on the phone!"

Er, not quite the same thing. First of all, they are making a personal attack on you, which is not what she has done, and second of all, I sincerely doubt you would gather thousands of people to direct attacks at their home address, send them hatemail, tie up their phone line all day with threats, vandalize their home, and ruin their reputation in their personal life as well as their internet life. You can verbally disagree with someone all you damn well want, but harassment is a different ballgame: nobody deserves harassment for expressing their personal opinion, no matter how unpopular those personal opinions may be. I'm actually stunned that anyone could think what Anonymous does is right and still claim to believe in freedom of speech.

And this isn't Facebook, where you know who's on your friend list, and the person has already made a personal attack on you. She doesn't personally know anyone there. She hasn't personally attacked anyone who's now harassing her.

What they are doing is wrong if you agree with the concept of freedom of speech, simple as tbh.