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Questions to Silence a Catholic Priest?

  • 13-03-2011 3:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    I'm thinking of writing a letter to my local priest and in this letter I would like to ask questions that he cant possibly answer or explaine.

    Questions like?

    1. Do you still believe planet earth is 6-8k years old? if so explaine how the marble the alter is made from is millions of years old?

    2. Does the Church still sell indulgences? And if not why are members of the parish giving money to convicted peadofile priests to say mass in their home?

    3. why not follow the old testament like the jewish zombie to us to in Harry Potter sorry I mean the bible?

    4. Does God have nipples? we have and were made in his image and what are they for if earth is 8,000 years old?

    5. Why is there so many images of jesus, when he clearly sad not to copy his image?

    6. Whats limbo? and why did the Church get rid of it recently? why not just admit its all wrong?

    7. Why did our local national school principle have to go and find you in the recent snow/cold snap so he could ask if he could close the school?

    Any more? Tips? how to word the letter?

    also I would like him to answer these in his sermon on a sunday how could I ask him?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    And the point of this exercise is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭ilovelamp2000


    Where do you get your supply of the body and blood of Christ each week ?

    How do you know it's genuine ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 353 ✭✭bradyle


    i'm not a priest and the only one i cant answer is the image of jesus one...so if you're gonna try and test them maybe not ask questions that the answers are obvious to...for example the catholic church believes in evoloution so no he doesnt think the world was created 6-8k years ago


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,780 ✭✭✭liamw


    rightyabe wrote: »
    1. Do you still believe planet earth is 6-8k years old? if so explaine how the marble the alter is made from is millions of years old?

    Firstly, not all christians believe in a young earth. Secondly, if he does believe in a young earth he's hardly going to just accept that marble is millions of years old...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    He would take one look and bin it


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭Lavattack


    It seems kinda pointless to me but good luck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    rightyabe wrote: »
    1. Do you still believe planet earth is 6-8k years old?

    The Church are not against evolution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    Yeah my point is they were against evolution until they couldn't argue against it anymore, so why dont they just admit it all lies?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    rightyabe wrote: »
    Yeah my point is they were against evolution until they couldn't argue against it anymore, so why dont they just admit it all lies?
    Do you think this letter is going change anything?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    Seriously what's the point? I hate the Church too, and if I am engaged in a theological discussion I will argue for hours about why they're wrong. But its because stuff like writing letters to someone who is staying out of your way and carrying out his business attacking their beliefs that atheists get such a bad rep.

    Plus he can easily answer most of those questions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    I'm never going to change anything, I know that, Jesus i'm not stupid!!!!

    I just want to hear how a Priest in rural ireland would respond!!!


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Francesca Wailing Leper


    Do you not have any hobbies or anything


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    rightyabe wrote: »
    I'm never going to change anything, I know that, Jesus i'm not stupid!!!!

    I just want to hear how a Priest in rural ireland would respond!!!

    he wont


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    bluewolf wrote: »
    Do you not have any hobbies or anything

    Have you none? with your 12,009 posts, one is beginng to think you could be a recluse.....


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Francesca Wailing Leper


    rightyabe wrote: »
    Have you none? with your 12,009 posts, one is beginng to think you could be a recluse.....

    Ye, 4 posts a day is certainly reclusive


    Why don't you find something better to do than bothering the priests, if you genuinely had questions for them then fine but "questions to silence a priest", come on, get your kicks somewhere else


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    ALL I WANT IS SOME TIPS ON QUESTIONS......NO NEGATIVE POST PLEASE!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    rightyabe wrote: »
    ALL I WANT IS SOME TIPS ON QUESTIONS......NO NEGATIVE POST PLEASE!!!!!
    Ask him if he has a different collar for each day of the week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    Moderator please close this thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Ask him if God could make a cheese toasty so hot that even He could not eat it.....


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,427 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    rightyabe wrote: »
    Moderator please close this thread.
    Not when it's beginning to show a bit of form after a very unpromising start.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Tell him you've been abusing children for the last few decades.
    Ask him what you should do; come clean to the authorities or cover it up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭stevoslice


    ask him what god gives up for lent, and if your supposed to give up something you really love for lent, why he doesn't give up religion.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 50,880 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    rightyabe wrote: »
    ALL I WANT IS SOME TIPS ON QUESTIONS......NO NEGATIVE POST PLEASE!!!!!
    i think you got the best tip already - don't bother. especially when the church's stance on such issues is easily found with little effort online.
    are you going to challenge anyone else on beliefs you don't share with them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    Why are all the academically-bright priests sent to Africa/seminaries while the less sharp ones are assigned to the public churches?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    - Do you know the documentary series 'Mysteries of the Bible uncovered'?
    - What is your opinion regarding the role of the Church under the Nazi regime in Germany?
    - Would you still support crusades and burning witches?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Perhaps you should make the assumption that the priest in your parish is quite normal then have a normal conversation with him.

    Then again....Maybe normal is what is considered normal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭osullic


    i think you got the best tip already - don't bother. especially when the church's stance on such issues is easily found with little effort online.
    are you going to challenge anyone else on beliefs you don't share with them?

    Yeah he's sending a letter to his local rabbi and marabout aswell


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    If the schools are all Catholic, why did they fail to teach the OP how to spell?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Send it to the Pope instead


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    oh man, read a bit. actually, read a lot.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 10,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭5uspect


    Ask him why the Nasty Internet Atheists (TM) are picking on you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭karl tyrrell


    Ask him how much his 011 car was and has work got harder with out alter boys:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    Ask him if he knows what the term "keyboard warrior" means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I think it is ironic that a person who was planning on sending a letter full of idiotic vitriol to a priest is now demanding that negative posts are not allowed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    rightyabe wrote: »
    ALL I WANT IS SOME TIPS ON QUESTIONS......NO NEGATIVE POST PLEASE!!!!!

    Tip one. Don't send the letter.

    The questions you came up with would pose no difficultly to any Catholic priest to answer. I can answer all of them from a Christian perspective and I'm not a Christian.

    Sending the letter would simply embarrass you by continue the stereotype that atheists are ignorant of Christian doctrine and dogma, which I always find is some what missing the point of atheism.

    Plus as you are not a Catholic the priest really has no obligation to entertain your correspondence, particularly when it is rather obvious it is not done in the spirit of genuine interest but in an attempt to embarrass the priests. Even if someone is a theist it is still possible to be rude to them, and engaging in unsolicited disingenuous correspondence is in my opinion rude. There is a difference between something like Boards.ie where someone willing participates in debates and dragging someone into a debate under false pretenses.

    If you are passionate about atheism and anti-theism (which isn't the automatic bad thing that theists like to make it out to be) I think a far more productive use of your time would be through organizations like Atheism Ireland campaigns, which attempt to engage with people who wish to be engaged with.

    Hope that helps


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 CAI6


    rightyabe wrote: »
    I'm thinking of writing a letter to my local priest and in this letter I would like to ask questions that he cant possibly answer or explaine.

    Questions like?

    1. Do you still believe planet earth is 6-8k years old? if so explaine how the marble the alter is made from is millions of years old?

    2. Does the Church still sell indulgences? And if not why are members of the parish giving money to convicted peadofile priests to say mass in their home?

    3. why not follow the old testament like the jewish zombie to us to in Harry Potter sorry I mean the bible?

    4. Does God have nipples? we have and were made in his image and what are they for if earth is 8,000 years old?

    5. Why is there so many images of jesus, when he clearly sad not to copy his image?

    6. Whats limbo? and why did the Church get rid of it recently? why not just admit its all wrong?

    7. Why did our local national school principle have to go and find you in the recent snow/cold snap so he could ask if he could close the school?

    Any more? Tips? how to word the letter?

    also I would like him to answer these in his sermon on a sunday how could I ask him?

    1- The Church believes in the big bang.
    2- No. They do not. They do however accept donations to the upkeep of the church.
    3-Because it's clear to us all that that "Jewish Zombie" told us to follow his teachings, which are in the New Testament.
    4-Completely lost here, what has the age of the Earth got to do with nipples?
    5-Who knows. I wasn't aware he said not to. Protestants don't do it because they believe it's wrong to worship images.
    6-Limbo is where all the unbaptised babies were meant to go. It's neither Heaven nor Hell nor Purgatory. Limbo is not mentioned in the Bible, and why would one thing being wrong mean everything is, you managed a few right spellings in your post.
    7-He's probably on the board.

    But I've a question, why when you clearly hate the church do you go to mass?

    And a tip on wording the letter? PROOF READ, to help, I put all the mistakes in bold. Hope I didn't miss any


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    Well your first mistake was to ask him questions based on religion. If I want to silence someone with a question I don't pick a subject they're keen on.

    Why not ask him an obscure sporting result or some kind of riddle? (Lol at my phones autocorrect changing that to fiddle)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 CAI6


    If the Pope is infallible and the light of the world, why does he look so evil?

    evil-pope.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


    rightyabe wrote: »
    I'm thinking of writing a letter to my local priest and in this letter I would like to ask questions that he cant possibly answer or explaine.


    Daddy, how did I get here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,943 ✭✭✭wonderfulname


    rightyabe wrote: »
    1. Do you still believe planet earth is 6-8k years old? if so explaine how the marble the alter is made from is millions of years old?
    As already mentioned, no, no they don't.
    rightyabe wrote: »
    2. Does the Church still sell indulgences? And if not why are members of the parish giving money to convicted peadofile priests to say mass in their home?
    Again, no, do you know what the word convicted means by any chance?
    rightyabe wrote: »
    3. why not follow the old testament like the jewish zombie to us to in Harry Potter sorry I mean the bible?
    They do take many moral teachings from the old testament, as Christians they do tend to put a bit more emphasis on the words of Christ though. Harry Potter you say? Ironic...
    rightyabe wrote: »
    4. Does God have nipples? we have and were made in his image and what are they for if earth is 8,000 years old?
    Genisis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." I guess that would be a yes so. Also refer to your first question, Catholics are not young earth creationists.
    rightyabe wrote: »
    5. Why is there so many images of jesus, when he clearly sad not to copy his image?
    I believe you are referring to Exodus; "You shall not make for yourself a graven image, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth." Whilst some protestant groups may translate this to include religious artworks etc. this is not the case with the catholic church who read the above passage as prohibiting idolatry.
    rightyabe wrote: »
    6. Whats limbo? and why did the Church get rid of it recently? why not just admit its all wrong?
    It is where those who died in original sin were hypothesised to go. The church viewed limbo as a “theological hypothesis”, they stopped preaching about it because it cannot be proved within the bound of their religion that it in fact exists. Don't answer back saying none of it exists, I am well aware of that, they came to this conclusion through study of religious texts, and under the premise that they were true.
    rightyabe wrote: »
    7. Why did our local national school principle have to go and find you in the recent snow/cold snap so he could ask if he could close the school?
    School boards are, more often than not, directed by members of the clergy.

    He will never respond to you in church, especially not during lent. This is the time in the church calender when Catholics recall the Temptation of Christ, where Jesus put to the Devil, "Again it is written, 'You shall not put the Lord, your God, to the test.'"

    This idea is not clever, it is immature and highly rude. It also shows a serious lack of knowledge on your part. Why don't you actually sit down and read the bible? Never mind the fact you'd save yourself this kind of embarrassment in future, you'd actually enjoy it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,346 ✭✭✭Rev Hellfire


    For a thread that started out as a way to make someone else look stupid its turned out remarkably well.

    The ironing is delicious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Ask him if nothing sticks to teflon how do they stick teflon to the pan?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    Why don't you fancy wimmins?

    The priest, not you OP. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,616 ✭✭✭FISMA


    rightyabe wrote: »
    1. Do you still believe planet earth is 6-8k years old? if so explaine how the marble the alter is made from is millions of years old?

    It's post like these that give non believers a bad name. Some of the follow-ups are infantile and do little to further a logic/reasonable ideology.

    I guess that what we believers and true Atheists & Agnostics (A&A's) have in common is that there are those that embarrass on both sides.

    A quick glance at all too many threads on this board would leave one with the impression that A&A's are defined by their hatred of the church.

    If you are going to be neutral on the subject of God, perhaps, you should take a neutral stance on God.

    Does the original poster realize that it was a Catholic Priest that proposed the "hypothesis off the primeval atom, what would later be called the Big Bang?"

    That it was an atheist, Fred Hoyle, that coined the phrase "Big Bang" as a way to disparage and put down the Catholic Priest's work? ...The Big Bang was hardly big (a singularity) and it couldn't have made any noise.
    bruno8.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 812 ✭✭✭rightyabe


    OK I admit my questions were somewhat pointless and I have no intention of proceeding with the letter, not that I was 100% going to write one anyway I merely wanted to open a discussion that could be handy in future if a man of the cloth ever questioned my lack of belief. Apologies to anyone offended.

    On another not I read a good few comments that were just good banter and others that were mildly aggressive and off thread, but some puzzled me like this example from Jumpy.

    Jumpy
    "If the schools are all Catholic, why did they fail to teach the OP how to spell?"

    1.Were did I say all schools were Catholic?
    2.Did I say I went to a Catholic school?
    3.Can you show me any correlation between the religious domination of a school and the efficiency of their students spelling?
    4.Correct spelling and grammar is not stated in the Charter rules(although incorrect can be annoying, I couldn't spell-check on my phone)

    Its replies like this that annoy me, I respect silly/aggressive replies far more than a reply which is full of assumptions. And all in all I believe a good 30% of the posts in this thread are in breach of certain forum rules (1 or 2 of mine included) and I would like to see more constructive criticism instead of just rude comments.

    Again I apologise and have learned a lesson, But I still feel we should be questioning the church at a local level nationally, however it could be achieved I don’t know.

    Regards,
    rightyabe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,560 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Here's a good one:

    Were you a seminarian at Maynooth? If so, what does the practise of secretly linking pinkie fingers with fellow seminarians when walking around the campus mean? My understanding is that it means that you're open to a monogamous homosexual relationship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Here's a good one:

    Were you a seminarian at Maynooth? If so, what does the practise of secretly linking pinkie fingers with fellow seminarians when walking around the campus mean? My understanding is that it means that you're open to a monogamous homosexual relationship.

    Is that a real thing (sounds plausible enough) or are you just being facetious DW?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    rightyabe wrote: »
    Again I apologise and have learned a lesson, But I still feel we should be questioning the church at a local level nationally, however it could be achieved I don’t know.[/COLOR]

    Regards,
    rightyabe.

    Fair enough bro, I'm sure your heart was in the right place.

    Welcome to the forum anyways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Id ask could he use Weed instead of Incense in that smoky thing they shake when on the alter..Weed would also have the benefit of helping the mass goers sleep off the rest of the sermon..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 489 ✭✭mlumley


    rightyabe wrote: »
    I'm thinking of writing a letter to my local priest and in this letter I would like to ask questions that he cant possibly answer or explaine.

    Questions like?



    6. Whats limbo? and why did the Church get rid of it recently?

    WHAT,:eek: they got rid of limbo? I was gonna go to Jamaca to watch them do the dance, and now the church has got rid of it. All them dancers on the dole cos the church, they should be ashamed.


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