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Is Hurling slowly dying?

  • 11-03-2011 5:23pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭


    Im a Kildare man and have never played hurling or ever went to a hurling match but in my opinion hurling is slowly dying.

    The attendances at this years league matches has being terrible, also most of these games are so one-sided its pathetic.

    I watched Offaly and Galway on the telly last sunday and i felt so sorry for the Offaly players.

    Its also been revealed the hurlings 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier teams are making no profit from last years championships.

    Compare all this to Football where there is realistically 10 teams in with a shout of an All-Ireland where-as theres 3 (kk.cork,tipp) in hurling!


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    Come to Kilkenny, it's still no.1 here

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 all of the lights


    well i dont no to be honest with killkenny not winning the liam mc carty cup for the first time in 4 years it might give other county teams a boost to no that there not invincable....also about offaly and galway bein so one sided, they had 2great games during last years championship wit galway jus beating offaly in the end..........all the same interesting thread!!!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Compare all this to Football where there is realistically 10 teams in with a shout of an All-Ireland where-as theres 3 (kk.cork,tipp) in hurling!


    I think the football is between (mainly)- cork, dublin and kerry - the hurling between (mainly)- kk and tip.

    There are others in football - ( esp up north and Kildare possibly) while Cork, Galway and possibly waterford could concievably do it in hurling.

    About the same contenders averall I would say for both codes - maybe a couple more in football but not 10 V 3 as you would suggest.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    I think the football is between (mainly)- cork, dublin and kerry - the hurling between (mainly)- kk and tip.

    There are others in football - ( esp up north and Kildare possibly) while Cork, Galway and possibly waterford could concievably do it in hurling.

    About the same contenders averall I would say for both codes - maybe a couple more in football but not 10 V 3 as you would suggest.

    What about Down??

    Meath are in with a good shout as are Kildare. Laois are looking good too.

    Mayo and Galway are always there or there abouts.

    Waterford have no chance of winning the All-Ireland,
    they're best years are gone now.

    Maybe Dublin will surprise alot of people this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Here in Carlow it is certainly not dying. It is really taking over from the football. Bad and all as we are at football, that has always been main game here.
    But the guys that are good at both are choosing to play hurling rather than football once they hit senior co level. Our U21 football side who are fairly good this year have 3 guys who play on the senior hurling team and have chosen that over playing with the footballers.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    Stevecw wrote: »
    Here in Carlow it is certainly not dying. It is really taking over from the football. Bad and all as we are at football, that has always been main game here.
    But the guys that are good at both are choosing to play hurling rather than football once they hit senior co level. Our U21 football side who are fairly good this year have 3 guys who play on the senior hurling team and have chosen that over playing with the footballers.
    Ive heard alot if times of players in Carlow would rather concentrate on club football rather than the county team, which is strange.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭LawlessBoy


    Come to Kilkenny, it's still no.1 here

    its football thats dying there:(:eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    LawlessBoy wrote: »
    its football thats dying there:(:eek:
    Was it ever alive:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,133 ✭✭✭Stevecw


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Ive heard alot if times of players in Carlow would rather concentrate on club football rather than the county team, which is strange.

    Thats true, it has been that way for as long as I remember. We never get even close to having best 15 footballers in Carlow playing for the co. It's all about the club. Certain guys won't play on a county team because they couldn't play with lads from that club etc.

    The club rivalry here is stupid, and it results in stuff like 2 & 3 years ago the club that got to co final here 2 years in a row had nobody on co panel.

    Lads are now choosing hurling too ahead of football and can't blame them. The hurlers are doing great with such a small pick. We've only 6 senior hurling clubs here, but they all want to play for county team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭comeraghs


    pretty much every thread on hurling here has a " Waterford's best days are behind them" comment!

    Let's see!

    Hurling alive & well in Waterford!

    and I hear alot of good work being done in Kildare too.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    comeraghs wrote: »
    pretty much every thread on hurling here has a " Waterford's best days are behind them" comment!

    Let's see!

    Hurling alive & well in Waterford!

    and I hear alot of good work being done in Kildare too.
    Kildare will only ever get so far in the hurling, this is a Football county and that will never change.

    Waterford have a very old team, like Mullane aint getting any younger along with Browne(he must be near 40), Shanahan gone aswel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭comeraghs


    Stephen O'Keeffe, Adrian Power, Noel & ThomasConnors, Darragh & Shane Fives, Baby Shan, Sully, Thomas Ryan, Shane Casey, Brian O'Halloran, Richie Foley, Jerome Maher, The 2 O'Mahoneys, Owen Whelan .....all under 25 and among many other Waterford hurlers you'll see a lot off over the next few years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Im a Kildare man and have never played hurling or ever went to a hurling match but in my opinion hurling is slowly dying.

    The attendances at this years league matches has being terrible, also most of these games are so one-sided its pathetic.

    I watched Offaly and Galway on the telly last sunday and i felt so sorry for the Offaly players.

    Its also been revealed the hurlings 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier teams are making no profit from last years championships.

    Compare all this to Football where there is realistically 10 teams in with a shout of an All-Ireland where-as theres 3 (kk.cork,tipp) in hurling!
    You have to be a wum.A bad hurling game is 10 times better than a good football game. Jog on son.:cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Agus


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Was it ever alive:eek:


    Kilkenny have won three Leinster Senior Football Championships apparently, the last one 100 years ago this year. More than Carlow Longford Westmeath or Wicklow.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Im a Kildare man and have never played hurling or ever went to a hurling match but in my opinion hurling is slowly dying.
    OK but you aren't in a hurling stronghold. That may be the main problem.
    The attendances at this years league matches has being terrible, also most of these games are so one-sided its pathetic.
    League matches is an important point in that sentence.
    I watched Offaly and Galway on the telly last sunday and i felt so sorry for the Offaly players.
    What? Did you not watch the Leinster semi-finals last year? League matches are a run out for teams to prepare for the Provincial stages. Offaly almost beat us. Dublin could beat Galway this year.

    Smaller counties aren't making money which is a fair point. Seeing Dublin improve is a positive sign though. Offaly are improving also (hopefully Dooley recovers).
    Compare all this to Football where there is realistically 10 teams in with a shout of an All-Ireland where-as theres 3 (kk.cork,tipp) in hurling!
    That's a legitimate lie. Cork,Dublin,Kerry,Down,Kildare,Meath and you could make a slight argument for Tyrone. I'm also being very generous to you giving you 7 teams.

    In hurling there's Tipp, Kilkenny, Galway, Cork and Waterford. Two teams less than football which has over double the teams competing.

    Sure hurling isn't going international anytime soon but it really is no worse competitively than it has been maybe ever. Dublin are coming on and have a good chance of getting to a Leinster final. Clare are gradually improving now after a great u-21 team in the last few years coming into the senior ranks. Kilkenny are no longer invincible. Tipp are the top dogs and Galway and Cork are right behind them in the favourites tags. Limerick have impressed me this year too.

    I'm really looking forward to this year in hurling. Maybe more than I ever have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Agus


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    You have to be a wum.A bad hurling game is 10 times better than a good football game. Jog on son.:cool:
    I disagree, but in any event what does the question of which is a better game have to do with whether hurling is declining?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Agus


    OK but you aren't in a hurling stronghold. That may be the main problem.


    League matches is an important point in that sentence.


    What? Did you not watch the Leinster semi-finals last year? League matches are a run out for teams to prepare for the Provincial stages. Offaly almost beat us. Dublin could beat Galway this year.

    Smaller counties aren't making money which is a fair point. Seeing Dublin improve is a positive sign though. Offaly are improving also (hopefully Dooley recovers).


    That's a legitimate lie. Cork,Dublin,Kerry,Down,Kildare,Meath and you could make a slight argument for Tyrone. I'm also being very generous to you giving you 7 teams.

    In hurling there's Tipp, Kilkenny, Galway, Cork and Waterford. Two teams less than football which has over double the teams competing.

    Sure hurling isn't going international anytime soon but it really is no worse competitively than it has been maybe ever. Dublin are coming on and have a good chance of getting to a Leinster final. Clare are gradually improving now after a great u-21 team in the last few years coming into the senior ranks. Kilkenny are no longer invincible. Tipp are the top dogs and Galway and Cork are right behind them in the favourites tags. Limerick have impressed me this year too.

    I'm really looking forward to this year in hurling. Maybe more than I ever have.

    I agree, don't think there is any reason to say hurling is in a worse state than it has been the majority of the GAA's history or the period before that. At the top level it's possibly not as competitive as the 1990s but that decade was the exception not the rule.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    In clare -the best footballers dont want to play on the county team.Club rivalry.Pathetic, sad, but true.KIlmurry got to the AI club final last year-so there must be some fine footballers in Clare.But back west(In Clare) the rivalry is so great amongst clubs that they wont play with each other on the county team.Sad but true.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    In clare -the best footballers dont want to play on the county team.Club rivalry.Pathetic, sad, but true.KIlmurry got to the AI club final last year-so there must be some fine footballers in Clare.But back west(In Clare) the rivalry is so great amongst clubs that they wont play with each other on the county team.Sad but true.
    I know Im goin to be murdered for saying this:D.But its more or less true.:)


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    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    In clare -the best footballers dont want to play on the county team.Club rivalry.Pathetic, sad, but true.KIlmurry got to the AI club final last year-so there must be some fine footballers in Clare.But back west(In Clare) the rivalry is so great amongst clubs that they wont play with each other on the county team.Sad but true.

    I find it very ironic you are giving out about the state of the Clare football team when you giving every excuse under the sun as to why KK don't bother with it on another thread. Double standards or what :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    I find it very ironic you are giving out about the state of the Clare football team when you giving every excuse under the sun as to why KK don't bother with it on another thread. Double standards or what :rolleyes:
    Im from Clarecastle-a hurling stronghold(we dont really bother with football).Im just saying what goes on in west clare.;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    I find it very ironic you are giving out about the state of the Clare football team when you giving every excuse under the sun as to why KK don't bother with it on another thread. Double standards or what :rolleyes:
    I wish the clare footballers well.Dont get me wrong. I work with a fella from Doonbeg(football stronghold).He tells me that they hate Kilmurray lads more than celtic hate rangers.Now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Lol26


    It's the number 1 sport here in Tipp :D & always will be!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Lol26 wrote: »
    It's the number 1 sport here in Tipp :D & always will be!!
    What is? May I ask?;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭Lol26


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    What is? May I ask?;)

    Hurling :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    What is? May I ask?;)
    Fcucking hurling of course.Hurling trumps gaelic football.Big time.Thats all Im sayin on the matter without goin all medieval.:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    Lol26 wrote: »
    Hurling :)
    A proper mans sport.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,230 ✭✭✭spideog7


    Hurling in the top ranks is coming on. Maybe Kilkenny and Tipp are ahead of the rest by a bit, but I'd say Galway, Waterford, Cork and Dublin aren't far behind, even Offaly and Limerick aren't doing too bad. And Dublin have come a long way recently, I could see Dublin shocking Kilkenny this year, I know they beat them in the Walsh cup so Kilkenny won't be inclined to let it happen again but you never know.

    I'd bet money that Kilkenny won't win Leinster this year, I'd tip Galway or Dublin to do it. I'd be inclined to say Tipp will win in Munster again with a Tipp, Limerick Munster final. That said it's hard to see any other team (Tipp/Kilkenny) winning the final, maybe Galway but I'm saying that as a Galway man so I am biased.

    Football does seem more dynamic, more open to smaller teams coming up, but hurling is far from dying.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭jordainius


    Problem is that a lot of us here have the 1990's fresh in our minds, when hurling went through its most unusual decade with regard to its competetiveness, Offaly and Clare had great teams (something which we must remember has only happened about twice in 127 years of their respective counties), Wexford won an All-Ireland, Limerick had a very good team, Galway were the same old Galway; always strong, but underacheiving, Waterford went from one of the lowest points in their history in 1993 after losing to Kerry to being major contenders in 1998. And the big 3 all had their phases of dominance, but most unusually; for about 4 or 5 years in the middle of the 1990's the big 3 were all poor (by their own standards) and this perhaps didn't give a true reflection as to the real strength of Clare/Offaly/Wexford/Limerick- as those 4 counties benefited from the unprecedented situation of all 3 of the big 3 being well below their normal standard. That said, the 1990's was a very memorable decade!

    Nowadays, at present we currently have a Kilkenny team which we will remember for the rest of our lives- this team will always be our benchmark for any good team that comes in the future. They are an amazing team- their performance in the 2008 final was stunning. They have a very strong case for the title of greatest team of all time. Tipperary for the last two years have reached the standards set by Kilkenny and as a result we are lucky enough to have witnessed two epic All-Ireland finals. Slowly dying? Go watch the last two All-Ireland finals and try to tell me that those games are representative of a sport that is dying...

    In hurling, it has historically always been the case that only 2/3 counties have a realistic chance of winning the All-Ireland, it's no different now than it has always been. It faces the same challenges that it always has.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Parkhead, were you to log in as another username with some of your replies to yourself or what? this thread reads really weird with your posts.

    as for hurling dying, I wouldnt agree with it. Hurling in Kildare is far more prominent than it was 10 years ago. And same goes for a lot of counties on the fringes, Carlow, Wicklow, Kerry etc.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,244 Mod ✭✭✭✭adrian522


    I don't think you judge the strength of the sport based on who has a chance of winning all irelands.

    Hurling is as strong now as it ever has been,

    I don't know if people on here read Sliotar magazine (I can forward on copies for anyone interested) but they did specials last year on places where the sport is beginning to take hold in non-traditional places such as Kerry and Kildare.

    There are a lot of kids playing hurling now in Waterford, much more so that 15 years ago. Hurling interest has skyrocketed in Dublin in the same timeframe. There are now 9 divisions of hurling in Dublin which is great and new clubs getting started up too (e.g Relat Dearag)

    I also think the Ring, Rackard and Meagher cups have been great for developing the game.

    So no I don't think it is dying but hurling badly needs competitive teams from outside the big three or even the big 5 (including Galway and Waterford).

    Enda McEvoy has a good piece about Dublin in todays examiner and I think they will continue to improve over the next few years.


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    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    A proper mans sport.;)

    Id prefer the hurling myself but still maintain an interest in the football even if it is inferior. I can never understand why hurling didn't take off as good as football did to be honest. i think when the association was founded there was an equal balance of codes in all counties even if there was a preference.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭PARKHEAD67


    bruschi wrote: »
    Parkhead, were you to log in as another username with some of your replies to yourself or what? this thread reads really weird with your posts.

    as for hurling dying, I wouldnt agree with it. Hurling in Kildare is far more prominent than it was 10 years ago. And same goes for a lot of counties on the fringes, Carlow, Wicklow, Kerry etc.
    What are you on about? Anyway hurling trumps football 10 times out of ten. Its not "slowly dying". Hurling is the best field sport on earth IMO.Gaelic football is one of the worst.Just my opinion;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    What are you on about? Anyway hurling trumps football 10 times out of ten. Its not "slowly dying". Hurling is the best field sport on earth IMO.Gaelic football is one of the worst.Just my opinion;)
    Your un-biased opinion of course:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86 ✭✭looseygoosey


    im from kildare,and prefer to play hurling,its a brilliant sport better than football anyday.Down here in castledermot in south kildare we're starting hurling up again at junior level.

    Saying that the standard of hurling is dier in kildare ,i was embarassed watching the senior team play against derry there awhile back.

    Hurling though is as competive as it has always been and i believe counties like clare and limerick and offaly to put up a serious battle in this years championship.

    I live near carlow also and have seen the swap around in their preference to hurling.

    the stupid ,nearly no-contact rules of football have increased hurlings likability factor.Its an over all more fun game to play and i predict more counties to be become more competetive in the future


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭daddydick


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Kildare will only ever get so far in the hurling, this is a Football county and that will never change.

    Waterford have a very old team, like Mullane aint getting any younger along with Browne(he must be near 40), Shanahan gone aswel.

    That's a ridiculous comment about waterford having a very old team. Take out T Browne and they have one of the youngest teams around.

    Stephen O Keeffe - 20
    Adrian Power - 23
    Noel Connors - 20
    Liam Lawlor - 25
    Darragh Fives - 19
    Shane Fives - 23
    Richie Foley - 23
    Jamie Nagle - 24
    Shane O'Sullivan - 25
    Paudie Mahony - 19
    Philip Mahony - 20
    Kevin Moran - 24
    Maurice Shanahan - 20
    Thomas Ryan - 20
    Shane Casey - 21
    Eamonn Murphy - 18
    Stephen Daniels - 22
    Brian O'Halloran - 19
    Jerome Maher - 22
    Stephen Molumphy - 26

    Throw in Eoin Kelly at 28 and Mullane at 30 who both have 5-6 years left in them and you'll see that your comment is a bit ignorant as to exactly what is going on in Waterford hurling..

    All of the above will feature strongly for Waterford over the next decade....they're in a good position and are not missing the big players like Flynn and Shahahan as much as they were expected to by pretty much every journalist/commentator in the country..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    daddydick wrote: »
    That's a ridiculous comment about waterford having a very old team. Take out T Browne and they have one of the youngest teams around.

    Stephen O Keeffe - 20
    Adrian Power - 23
    Noel Connors - 20
    Liam Lawlor - 25
    Darragh Fives - 19
    Shane Fives - 23
    Richie Foley - 23
    Jamie Nagle - 24
    Shane O'Sullivan - 25
    Paudie Mahony - 19
    Philip Mahony - 20
    Kevin Moran - 24
    Maurice Shanahan - 20
    Thomas Ryan - 20
    Shane Casey - 21
    Eamonn Murphy - 18
    Stephen Daniels - 22
    Brian O'Halloran - 19
    Jerome Maher - 22
    Stephen Molumphy - 26

    Throw in Eoin Kelly at 28 and Mullane at 30 who both have 5-6 years left in them and you'll see that your comment is a bit ignorant as to exactly what is going on in Waterford hurling..

    All of the above will feature strongly for Waterford over the next decade....they're in a good position and are not missing the big players like Flynn and Shahahan as much as they were expected to by pretty much every journalist/commentator in the country..
    Have you got birth certs to prove all of this, because Id have some reservations about some of your claims!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 407 ✭✭daddydick


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Have you got birth certs to prove all of this, because Id have some reservations about some of your claims!!

    Unfortunately not, however some of them are guesses but id be very surprised if any of them are out by more than one year..

    Who do your reservations relate to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭corny


    Answer to the question is hurling slowly dying is certainly not. As a Dub i'm delighted the hard work put in at grass roots level over the years is starting to pay dividends and i hope they progress further and eventually rival the footballers for attention in the county. Country wide? KK, Cork and Tipp will always churn out top sides that most find it hard to compete with. Bar a brief spell in the 90's they've been sharing AI's for decades. It doesn't stop the likes of Limerick, Galway, Wexford etc producing top players and, less regularly of course, top sides.

    Hurling is alive and well in the traditional areas. The real challenge is spreading the word to the rest of the country.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 34,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    What about Down??

    Meath are in with a good shout as are Kildare. Laois are looking good too.

    Mayo and Galway are always there or there abouts.

    Waterford have no chance of winning the All-Ireland,
    they're best years are gone now.

    Maybe Dublin will surprise alot of people this year.

    What about Down?? They lost the AI Final last year, that to me does not mean they will be favourites this year! As I said my top 3 favourites are Cork, Kerry and Dublin - I think that's a fair call.
    I very much doubt if Mayo or Galway will win the football- of course it is possible but I think very doubtful.

    Waterford have a chance of winning the hurling - not the Best chance (Tip/kk) but they do have a chance. Saying they have No Chance is a bit naiive of you I think.

    Dublin- well they are one of my favourites for the football and I have outlined on other threads that I expect them to make the Leinster Hurling Championship far more competitive this year.

    Last week, I actually mentioned the real possibilty of a league double for the Dubs!:eek:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    What about Down?? They lost the AI Final last year, that to me does not mean they will be favourites this year! As I said my top 3 favourites are Cork, Kerry and Dublin - I think that's a fair call.
    I very much doubt if Mayo or Galway will win the football- of course it is possible but I think very doubtful.

    Waterford have a chance of winning the hurling - not the Best chance (Tip/kk) but they do have a chance. Saying they have No Chance is a bit naiive of you I think.

    Dublin- well they are one of my favourites for the football and I have outlined on other threads that I expect them to make the Leinster Hurling Championship far more competitive this year.

    Last week, I actually mentioned the real possibilty of a league double for the Dubs!:eek:
    #
    Down have a great chance of winning the All-Ireland this year, they have a great manager and some of the best footballers in the country, although they should'nt have even being in the All-Ireland final last year if Pat McEneaney and his umpires could've done theyre job!

    Dublin have no chance of winning the Leinster Championship, take Kilkenny and Galway(dont even get me started on the whole Galway and Antrim playing in the Leinster Championship thing:eek:) out and then they do.

    Mayo or Galway footballers have a better chance of winning an All-Ireland than Waterford do of winning the Hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,659 ✭✭✭unknown13


    With Kilkenny not winning 5 in a row and Dublin showing big improvement in hurling. I don't think hurling is dying yet, I do think that we will see it dying starting in the next few years particularly if Kilkenny go on another mad run. Also despite the fact that Tipp won the All Ireland. I still thought the football was the better championship.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,460 ✭✭✭Orizio


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Have you got birth certs to prove all of this, because Id have some reservations about some of your claims!!

    :rolleyes:

    Why are people trying to honestly engage with this troll? Rubbish troll is rubbish - please move on.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 113 ✭✭Bryano11


    Orizio wrote: »
    :rolleyes:

    Why are people trying to honestly engage with this troll? Rubbish troll is rubbish - please move on.
    Good man:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    daddydick wrote: »
    Unfortunately not, however some of them are guesses but id be very surprised if any of them are out by more than one year..

    Who do your reservations relate to?

    You're prety bang on with most of them i think.

    I've never seen as many young players waiting to come onto the senior panel in the next 2-3 years as I have at the moment in Waterford. Hurling is alive and well In Waterford. I'd be very confident of being a top 4-5 county for the foreseeable future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 813 ✭✭✭wiger toods


    Bryano11 wrote: »
    Im a Kildare man and have never played hurling or ever went to a hurling match but in my opinion hurling is slowly dying.

    The attendances at this years league matches has being terrible, also most of these games are so one-sided its pathetic.

    I watched Offaly and Galway on the telly last sunday and i felt so sorry for the Offaly players.

    Its also been revealed the hurlings 2nd, 3rd and 4th tier teams are making no profit from last years championships.

    Compare all this to Football where there is realistically 10 teams in with a shout of an All-Ireland where-as theres 3 (kk.cork,tipp) in hurling!
    Not in the west so tis not! nice win today!:D
    SUCK ON DA, CILL CHAINNIGH:pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,005 ✭✭✭✭Flukey


    I don't think Hurling is dying. It is a great game to watch and very skilful, making it hard for many counties to reach the level that some are at. More should be done in the weaker counties and there are some good initiatives.

    The big three are always there, but there is always something to give Hurling that bit of extra interest amongst the others battling it out. While one of the big three always come out with Liam these days, the other two in any given year are occasionally taken out by the chasing pack, so that creates an interest. The members of the chasing pack do tend to change. Dublin are the obvious new entry to those ranks in the past few years and there is some jockeying for position that makes things interesting.

    Although those of us outside of the big three counties would prefer one of the other counties to win, we do get entertained by their performances. We'd like more contenders and more change in who the contenders are, but we do get served up plenty to enjoy. There were some cracking matches last year, and there will be again this year, so Hurling certainly isn't dying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    You have to be a wum.A bad hurling game is 10 times better than a good football game. Jog on son.:cool:
    Agus wrote: »
    I disagree, but in any event what does the question of which is a better game have to do with whether hurling is declining?

    I pity anyone that watches the hurling Thursday then waits for the football. I've been in Croke Park for the club finals for the past few years and have left 2008 - before the end of the football
    2009 - at half time in the football
    2010 - at the end of the hurling (damn glad I didn't waste my time on that match).

    I also found it interesting that at the Galway V Offally league match an awful lot of Offally people left after the hurling and didn't stay to watch their footballers play Wexford.

    Is hurling dying? Definitely not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    PARKHEAD67 wrote: »
    What are you on about? Anyway hurling trumps football 10 times out of ten. Its not "slowly dying". Hurling is the best field sport on earth IMO.Gaelic football is one of the worst.Just my opinion;)

    Ah the hurling taliban are out in force again... Seriously though this kind of attitude is part of the problem imo. The first step should be to acknowledge that there is a problem. Is hurling dying? No. I don't think it's growing either though or at least I haven't seen any evidence of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Screaminmidget


    bruschi wrote: »
    as for hurling dying, I wouldnt agree with it. Hurling in Kildare is far more prominent than it was 10 years ago. And same goes for a lot of counties on the fringes, Carlow, Wicklow, Kerry etc.
    Ya, in kerry its picking up a lot. Its still WAY behind football, but its still picking up bit by bit.

    I dont think that overall hurling is dying, maybe the standard might have dropped a small bit in some counties, But theres no way the sport as a whole is going.


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