If you're vehemently anti gay you're probably gay!

RichieC

Le case in point:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8556852.stm


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A conservative US state senator who has voted against gay rights measures during his 14 years in office has announced he is gay.
Republican Roy Ashburn came out during a radio interview in California, where he sits on the state legislature.
He has been on leave since his arrest last week on suspicion of driving under the influence.
Mr Ashburn said his votes reflected the way his constituents wanted him to vote, not his own "internal conflict".
"I am gay... those are the words that have been so difficult for me for so long," the 55-year-old divorced father-of-four told KERN radio.
Mr Ashburn said he felt the need to address rumours that he had visited a gay nightclub before his arrest on suspicion of drinking and driving in Sacramento on 3 March.
Last year, Mr Ashburn opposed a bill to establish a day of recognition to honour murdered gay rights activist Harvey Milk.
He has also voted in the statehouse against efforts to expand anti-discrimination laws and recognise out-of-state gay marriages.
Mr Ashburn, who represents California's 18th district, said he does not plan to run for any public office after his term ends later this year.

Also, Ted Haggard, there's probably way more fine examples.

Have fun!

(was meant for AH proper)

Mahatma coat

Case in point

RichieC

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Case in point

He definitely loves the cock.

smegmar

So what? Someone somewhere is a hypocrite. Of course there are twats in every walk of life, Doesn't effect me or my views. Op seem to think this guy represents the entire anti gay movement. pah!

RichieC

smegmar wrote: »

So what? Someone somewhere is a hypocrite. Of course there are twats in every walk of life, Doesn't effect me or my views. Op seem to think this guy represents the entire anti gay movement. pah!

he does. if you are actively anti gay it's because the lean buttocks of a grown man make you hard and you hate yourself for it... why else would you give a **** what others do in their own time?

smegmar

RichieC wrote: »

he does. if you are actively anti gay it's because the lean buttocks of a grown man make you hard and you hate yourself for it... why else would you give a **** what others do in their own time?

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Clanket

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Pffffttttt, obviously a gay

Sam Vimes

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Such as what

RichieC

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Well, I'm all ears, dying to hear your logical argument to support your bigotry.

Oblomov

An old cowboy sat down at the bar and ordered a drink. As he sat sipping his drink, a young woman sat down next to him. She turned to the cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"

He replied, "Well, I've spent my whole life, breaking colts, working cows, going to rodeos, fixing fences, pulling calves, bailing hay, doctoring calves, cleaning my barn, fixing flats, working on tractors, and feeding my dogs, so I guess I am a cowboy."

She said, "I'm a lesbian. I spend my whole day thinking about women. As soon as I get up in the morning, I think about women. When I shower, I think about women. When I watch TV, I think about women. I even think about women when I eat. It seems that everything makes me think of women."

The two sat sipping in silence.

A little while later, a man sat down on the other side of the old cowboy and asked, "Are you a real cowboy?"

He replied, "I always thought I was, but I just found out I'm a lesbian."


Got to agree with that man.

Yitzhak Rabin

Moved to After Hours proper. We don't like controversial issues in these here parts.

RGDATA!

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

My gaydar is going into overdrive here

fontanalis

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Ooooh be niice!

bc dub

I don't think being gay is a choice. we can't all be fabulous.

diddlybit

Awesome. The pool just got so much bigger.

But wouldya? Really? Coz I wouldn't.

(Though the levels of repression might be a bit of a turn-on.)

Nodin

RichieC wrote: »

Also, Ted Haggard, there's probably way more fine examples.

Have fun!

(was meant for AH proper)

Don't forget the Toe tapping guy.

(Ted now admits he's bisexual, btw....his psychiatrist may be dissappointed, but hes probably a happier chap)

BickNarry

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Two secs,i'm goin to get some popcorn.

bonerm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DX9T6A4lsk&t=1m55s

Nodin

bc dub wrote: »

I don't think being gay is a choice. we can't all be fabulous.

Indeed, I'm far too much of a scruffy fucker to be gay. Can't dance either.

bc dub

priest are anti gay aren't they? or is it auntie gay?

pragmatic1

Bishop Eddie Long is another one.

KeithAFC

Lot of nonsense.

pragmatic1

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Dying to hear your logical argument. Havent heard one yet.

prinz

Does that mean if you are vehemently anti-racism you're probably a racist?

RichieC

http://www.nuffy.net/articles/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay.html

top 10 anti gay activists caught being gay!

pragmatic1

prinz wrote: »

Does that mean if you are vehemently anti-racism you're probably a racist?

Yeah. +1 for sound logic.

CreepingDeath

RichieC wrote: »

If you're vehemently anti gay you're probably gay!

So what if you're vehemently anti blacks ?
Does that mean you secretly want to play basketball and listen to rap music ?

Clanket

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Come on Smegmar. We're all waiting....

rochey84

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

I haven't read the entire thread yet so apologies if I'm asking a question that has already been asked/answered, but I'd love to hear smegmar's "logical (without religious basis) argument" for being anti-gay?

Captain_Generic

Clanket wrote: »

Come on Smegmar. We're all waiting....

He obviously can't type with a cock in his mouth

prinz

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Yeah. +1 for sound logic.

The logic is just fine boss. Someone who votes against corruption is probably corrupt? Someone who votes against abortion is probably an abortionist? Catch the drift now?

Don't get me wrong I like the irony of this particular case as much as the next person, but applying it across the board is a tad stupid.

AnonoBoy

So does that mean that if you're vehemently pro-gay rights then you're not gay?

Cause I have a few gay friends who are totally not gay then.

What a bunch of liars.

Felim Uallachain

I wish I was gay.

You can get a shag whenever you like.

You can be as filthy as you like.

You can have a shag then play xbox 360 with your partner.

Unfortunately the smell of men makes me vomit and I love women.

andrewire

I always knew Leo Varadkar was gay.

AnonoBoy

Felim Uallachain wrote: »

I wish I was gay.

So do I. You sound gorgeous.

You can get a shag whenever you like.

So can I.

You can be as filthy as you like.

So can I.

You can have a shag then play xbox 360 with your partner.

So can I!

Unfortunately the smell of men makes me vomit and I love women.

What sort of men do you hang around with? Bin men?

RichieC

andrewire wrote: »

I always knew Leo Varadkar was gay.

Totally gay, gay as a window.

Felim Uallachain

The smell of all men make me heave.The thought of it makes me heave.

Also I wish I was attracted to fat girls.

this is arse

OP, were all ghey, 99% of the population just haven't come out yet :rolleyes:

Snakeblood

smegmar wrote: »

That or I have a logical (without religious basis) arguement and instead of listening to truth it's alot easier to insult everyone on the otherside of the arguement by accusing them of being gay.

Is there a logical antigay argument? I've never heard one.

seamus

I'm holding out hope that one of these days Fred Phelps will be caught doing an Emett Stagg and have his pic plastered up everywhere.

Captain_Generic

Snakeblood wrote: »

Is there a logical antigay argument? I've never heard one.

Ricky Martin?

murphthesmurf

Ridiculous argument. If your anti something, then you really are that something. Just because a few anti gays turn out to be gay doesn't make it a hard anf fast rule. I'm anti religeon, i'm not a secret prophet. In all honesty i'm not at all keen on this gay thing either, and no i'm not gay, though no doubt several people will now post that I am :rolleyes: .
Why is it whenever someone questions the whole gay thing, everyone then accuses them of being gay. Is this the only answer, is it the only argument?
I'm not anti gay as such, each to their own. But I dont really understand what makes someone gay (as in is it genetic etc). In all honesty it makes me uncomfortable to see it on the TV all the time. In my opinion it is something that is being forced down our necks 24/7 by the media. But no one dares question it or say anything against it or their branded homophobic and sacked. Maybe if it wasn't like this people would be more understanding and less offended by it all.
I'll sit back now and wait for the hale of abuse coming my way :rolleyes:

rochey84

Captain_Generic wrote: »

Ricky Martin?

No he is just a logical argument for birth control and possibly abortion, there are many straight examples of logical arguments for birth control and possibly abortion!

Odysseus

The anti-gay position is generally the most common way of explaining the concept of re-action formation as a psychological mechanism of defense. However, it is only the case where the person is not consciously aware of their gay attributes.

However, it raise an interesting question around people who hold a very strong position to some issues, it may be that unconsciously they are really attracted towards the position the consciously protest against. As in Shake spears "the lady does protest too much".

Nodin

murphthesmurf wrote: »

............., though no doubt several people will now post that I am :rolleyes: ....................

No.












Well over 10 I'd say.

gargleblaster

Odysseus wrote: »

The anti-gay position is generally the most common way of explaining the concept of re-action formation as a psychological mechanism of defense. However, it is only the case where the person is not consciously aware of their gay attributes.

However, it raise an interesting question around people who hold a very strong position to some issues, it may be that unconsciously they are really attracted towards the position the consciously protest against. As in Shake spears "the lady does protest too much".

exactly. and the title says 'probably gay' not 'most definitely and unquestionably as gay as gay can be'

Snakeblood

It's not really shoved down your throat 24/7. There are programs with gay characters, but how many programs contain heterosexual characters? Is that shoved down your throat too? How many programs focus on gay/lgbt issues versus programs which focus on the standard heterosexual lifestyle etc.

I think you notice things about gays more because it's different to your life exPerience, not that bumming is portrayed as the best thing. Or even portrayed excessively.

I saw a dude wig his arms around a bother dude on the bus. It stuck out to me, but I don't think that bus was ramming the gay lifestyle down my throat.

Typing this on an iPhone so sorry about misspellings but hopefully the meaning comes across. Another thing: count all the kisses or sex scenes on television. Now subtract all the straight ones. Are there a lot left?

gargleblaster

i have long suspected that one reason why (male) homosexuality causes so many people such discomfort is because the indoctrination that homsexuality is bad and evil and wrong is centuries old, and most people aren't completely straight or completely gay. most people fall somewhere along a range of sexuality, most more to one side or the other to be sure, but often enough not all the way to one side or the other.

also it is strange how it is only women who are given license to experiment and give voice to their homosexual tendencies, however slight, without being mocked and ridiculed for it.

is anyone disgusted by lesibans being shoved down their throats 24/7?

Sir Gallagher

murphthesmurf wrote: »

Ridiculous argument. If your anti something, then you really are that something. Just because a few anti gays turn out to be gay doesn't make it a hard anf fast rule. I'm anti religeon, i'm not a secret prophet. In all honesty i'm not at all keen on this gay thing either, and no i'm not gay, though no doubt several people will now post that I am :rolleyes: .
Why is it whenever someone questions the whole gay thing, everyone then accuses them of being gay. Is this the only answer, is it the only argument?
I'm not anti gay as such, each to their own. But I dont really understand what makes someone gay (as in is it genetic etc). In all honesty it makes me uncomfortable to see it on the TV all the time. In my opinion it is something that is being forced down our necks 24/7 by the media. But no one dares question it or say anything against it or their branded homophobic and sacked. Maybe if it wasn't like this people would be more understanding and less offended by it all.
I'll sit back now and wait for the hale of abuse coming my way :rolleyes:

What's the "gay thing"? it's simple really some people are just different from others and as you say, each to their own.

Captain_Generic

gargleblaster wrote: »

is anyone disgusted by lesibans being shoved down their throats 24/7?

No straight man would be

prinz

murphthesmurf wrote: »

In my opinion it is something that is being forced down our necks 24/7 by the media.

Generally because of a few reasons, one being if one soap introduces a gay character the rest follow suit... so then it appears as if they are everywhere on TV, but it's actually just a trend. New characters and the ensuing story lines revolving around them will be all the rage for a while and die down again until the next TV 'arms-race'.

Secondly the resort to stereotype that a lot of TV shows do. You can't be a gay male without being flouncy, bouncy, colourful and high-pitched. It just irritates regardless of the sexuality. So you change channel and blame the gheys. Modern Family does a brilliant satirical take on this as it happens. Hilarious.

Thirdly it's almost always a central issue regarding a gay character regardless of the type of TV programme it is their sexuality will be brought up again, and again, and again.

Thirdly I'd agree there is a media/cultural issue but it doesn't revolve solely around homosexuality rather sexuality itself. That's for another day.