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Noise polluting low flying recreational plane.

  • 05-03-2011 12:09pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭


    I can only assume this plane circling over the city ruining my otherwise peaceful afternoon is a recreational joy ride for some rich kid.
    Who are these guys and are they allowed to lap an urban area every weekend with their noisy annoyance?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    Thank you - I thought I was the only one who found the noise of these annoying

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Is it possible that they're doing some form of Ordnance Survey?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I can only assume this plane circling over the city ruining my otherwise peaceful afternoon is a recreational joy ride for some rich kid.
    Who are these guys and are they allowed to lap an urban area every weekend with their noisy annoyance?

    Why can you only assume its a recreational joy for some rich kid?

    Despite the tens of thousands of cars, vans and trucks going round the City, a single light aircraft is ruining your afternoon?

    Naturally you've never took to the skies yourself, as a passenger of a even more polluting and noisy jet airliner over somebody else City, on their otherwise peaceful afternoon.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    I could hear it too, not giving out about it people need to enjoy themselves in the air as much as people on motorbikes etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I can only assume this plane circling over the city ruining my otherwise peaceful afternoon is a recreational joy ride for some rich kid.
    Who are these guys and are they allowed to lap an urban area every weekend with their noisy annoyance?

    I'm one of "these guys". We're perfectly entitled to fly over the city once above 1,500 feet.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭AndyC555


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I can only assume this plane circling over the city ruining my otherwise peaceful afternoon is a recreational joy ride for some rich kid.

    Or somebody aspiring to be an airline pilot and they are out training.

    Get a life you moaning old git.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Hardly public service surveying at the weekends!
    Whatever height you're at, unnecessary noise pollution is unnecessary noise pollution. There's this giant thing west of here called the Atlantic Ocean for you to dick around over to your heart's content.
    Oh, and can you give us your home address? I've this old 1500cc Yamaha I'd like to tune up and your garden sounds perfect for the job.
    Typical sociopath attitude: if we're annoying you then you must be an "old fart".


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Why can you only assume its a recreational joy for some rich kid?

    Despite the tens of thousands of cars, vans and trucks going round the City, a single light aircraft is ruining your afternoon?

    Naturally you've never took to the skies yourself, as a passenger of a even more polluting and noisy jet airliner over somebody else City, on their otherwise peaceful afternoon.:pac:
    I assume it's a joy ride for some rich kid because we only get it on weekends at it isn't cheap.
    I can't hear any of those thousands of vehicles. Why would I care about them?
    Flights at 40,000 feet are nowhere near as noisy as 1500, even if the plane is small. And per passenger mile I imagine they're far more economical.
    Piloting must be mostly a gross motor skill, becauseit does little to foster logical thinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Piloting must be mostly a gross motor skill, becauseit does little to foster logical thinking.

    That is possibly the most retarded statement I have ever read. You have no idea what you are talking about.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    That is possibly the most retarded statement I have ever read. You have no idea what you are talking about.
    You haven't read any of your own then.
    (Hint: You should. We shouldn't)
    Saying a statement is retarded isn't the same as showing why it is.
    Which is sorta more evidence for my side of this than yours.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    IT's more than likely a pilot racking up hours to get a commercial license. Would you rather the pilot of your passenger plane just had a go instead of getting experience?

    EDIT: About flying over the ocean, that's a non runner more than likely. I don't think inexperienced pilots are allowed to fly over the ocean due to the dangers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Saying a statement is retarded isn't the same as showing why it is.
    Which is sorta more evidence for my side of this than yours.

    I thought it would have been somewhat self evident but I'll spell it out for you.

    From your posts, you have no knowledge or experience of flying an aeroplane. Yet you feel you have the authority to make a sweeping statement that flying an aircraft does little to foster logical thinking.

    Recreational flying is all about logical thinking. It is not a motor skill. If you took the time to scratch the surface of the mountains of research and analysis out there you would see that the vast majority of accidents during recreational flight are caused by pilot error. Once you realise this fact you can begin to appreciate just how important logical, rational decisions are when it comes to flying.

    That is why I said your comment that flying is a motor skill is possibly the most retarded thing I ever read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭the keen edge


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I assume it's a joy ride for some rich kid because we only get it on weekends at it isn't cheap.
    Just because something isn't cheap, doesn't mean that you have to be a rich kid to partake in it. Whoever is flying may have maybe sacrifices to enable themselves to pay for it.

    Flying at the weekend may be the only opportunity for someone to do so. Possibly because they are grafting hard during the week to pay for the flying

    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I can't hear any of those thousands of vehicles. Why would I care about them?
    You're in Galway City and you cant hear any traffic at all?
    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Flights at 40,000 feet are nowhere near as noisy as 1500, even if the plane is small.
    Ah so you only travel on the passenger jets that ascend/descend from/to their cruising altitude of 40,000 ft to/from the runway via a completely vertical flight path directly above their designated airport, without any sound travelling outside of the air fields perimeter?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    All you have to do is say its a fighter plane and the GAAW will crawl out of their holes and put an end to this abomination. They will launch their anti aircraft missiles to the tune of "99 red baloons"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    I thought it would have been somewhat self evident but I'll spell it out for you.
    Followed by you spelling out nothing except your own boorishness.
    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    From your posts, you have no knowledge or experience of flying an aeroplane. Yet you feel you have the authority to make a sweeping statement that flying an aircraft does little to foster logical thinking.
    And now you're about to prove me wrong. Whoops, no you won't.
    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    Recreational flying is all about logical thinking. It is not a motor skill. If you took the time to scratch the surface of the mountains of research and analysis out there you would see that the vast majority of accidents during recreational flight are caused by pilot error. Once you realise this fact you can begin to appreciate just how important logical, rational decisions are when it comes to flying.
    Really? Pilot error? If you guys got such smarts, how could this possibly happen?
    ronnie3585 wrote: »
    That is why I said your comment that flying is a motor skill is possibly the most retarded thing I ever read.
    As I said earlier, you mustn't read many of your own posts before you click send. It shows.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Just because something isn't cheap, doesn't mean that you have to be a rich kid to partake in it. Whoever is flying may have maybe sacrifices to enable themselves to pay for it.
    Yeah, I'm sure there's unemployed people who let their kids starve to do a few laps of the city every Saturday.
    Sure mate.
    Flying at the weekend may be the only opportunity for someone to do so. Possibly because they are grafting hard during the week to pay for the flying
    I couldn't give a monkey's TBH what day they fly as long as the stay out near the airport. Why do they insist on annoying people around the city?
    You're in Galway City and you cant hear any traffic at all?
    You're right, when you and your flyboy mates are circling, I can't hear any traffic. Thanks so much for the service you provide.
    The real answer is no, for 99% of the time I hear no traffic. My house doesn't front 10 yards from a dual carriageway.
    Ah so you only travel on the passenger jets that ascend/descend from/to their cruising altitude of 40,000 ft to/from the runway via a completely vertical flight path directly above their designated airport, without any sound travelling outside of the air fields perimeter?
    Oh, the "pollution" thing has disappeared now. I take it I was right then about big planes being much more economical per passenger mile. Thanks for the concession.
    I've never landed on a runway in a city centre myself. I'm sure they exist, but the one's I've seen are miles outside town.
    Sorry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    All you have to do is say its a fighter plane and the GAAW will crawl out of their holes and put an end to this abomination. They will launch their anti aircraft missiles to the tune of "99 red baloons"
    Which easily wins the nonsense pretending it's hyperbole award of the day.
    Why would an anti-war group have or use anti-aircraft missiles? :rolleyes:
    You might be on to something though. They did a great job on the airshow, so I'll drop them a bell. Cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Gingganggooley


    The engine noise coming off this particular 'plane was extraordinarily loud. It sounded like it was just a few hundred feet high.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Where are the regulations covering what is defined as the Irish airspace? The only ones I can find say the minimum is 900m.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 210 ✭✭996tt


    @ DanSolo, is there not a volume setting on your hearing aid?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    996tt wrote: »
    @ DanSolo, is there not a volume setting on your hearing aid?

    Another BS post. If I had a hearing aid and I could still hear this airplane then presumably it's incredibly loud.
    Are you in the market for a triple barrel shotgun so you can shoot yourself in the foot even more?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Another BS post. If I had a hearing aid and I could still hear this airplane then presumably it's incredibly loud.
    Are you in the market for a triple barrel shotgun so you can shoot yourself in the foot even more?
    Why would he want to shoot himself in the foot?
    To me you just sound like someone who got bored and wanted a moan. Oh no my ears aaaaaaahhhhhh the plane it hurts my sensitive ears! What effect did this plane directly have on your life today? Do you not engage in any noise-inducing activities at all no? Oh you model citizen you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 886 ✭✭✭witnessrenegade


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I couldn't give a monkey's TBH what day they fly as long as the stay out near the airport. Why do they insist on annoying people around the city?

    Well planes wouldn't be allowled to stay near the airport as other aircraft need space to land at the airport

    I don't see the problem, small bit of noise from a plane on a nice day, could be anything from tourists paying to see views above Galway, people training for their license, or of course rich kids spinning around the skies pulling handbrakes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    I can only assume this plane circling over the city ruining my otherwise peaceful afternoon is a recreational joy ride for some rich kid.
    Who are these guys and are they allowed to lap an urban area every weekend with their noisy annoyance?

    Well you assumed wrong in fact it was some very brave people doing parachute jumps into Galway Airport for charity, so sorry it upset you. The reason for the aircraft being over the City was due to Easterly winds as the jumpers would fly into the wind towards the airport after jumping out.

    Well done


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭-Vega-


    May aswell close this thread, it's going nowhere. Meh, noise is noise. It might be annoying but you ARE living in a city, just because it's Galway and not New York doesn't mean you get a silent enviroment :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Why would he want to shoot himself in the foot?
    Wow, just wow. Back to the drawing board with that sentence.
    When people cock up they tend not to do it on purpose. Except you perhaps, which in itself would explain a lot!
    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Why would he want to shoot himself in the foot?
    To me you just sound like someone who got bored and wanted a moan. Oh no my ears aaaaaaahhhhhh the plane it hurts my sensitive ears! What effect did this plane directly have on your life today? Do you not engage in any noise-inducing activities at all no? Oh you model citizen you!
    I love noise. I'm just not a dick so I make sure I don't subject anybody else to it unless they agree.
    As I asked already, give me your home address and I'll call round to tune up my Yamaha tomorrow morning. Not some old fuddy duddy who's afraid of a bit of noise surely are you?:rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    I don't see the problem, small bit of noise from a plane on a nice day

    Was nice you mean.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    -Vega- wrote: »
    May aswell close this thread, it's going nowhere. Meh, noise is noise. It might be annoying but you ARE living in a city, just because it's Galway and not New York doesn't mean you get a silent enviroment :p
    Back seat modding? They'll love you around here newbie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,011 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dan_Solo
    I can only assume this plane circling over the city ruining my otherwise peaceful afternoon is a recreational joy ride for some rich kid.
    Who are these guys and are they allowed to lap an urban area every weekend with their noisy annoyance?

    Well you assumed wrong in fact it was some very brave people doing parachute jumps into Galway Airport for charity, so sorry it upset you. The reason for the aircraft being over the City was due to Easterly winds as the jumpers would fly into the wind towards the airport after jumping out.

    Well done



    Ref my post above here is the link to the charity jump

    http://www.su.nuigalway.ie/site/view/2417/


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Well you assumed wrong in fact it was some very brave people doing parachute jumps into Galway Airport for charity, so sorry it upset you. The reason for the aircraft being over the City was due to Easterly winds as the jumpers would fly into the wind towards the airport after jumping out.

    Well done
    I couldn't give a monkeys what they were doing if it's not essential. None of my business. The noise is.
    There must be charity jumps every day of the week in that case! Go on, tell me there is...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,961 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I am an aviation enthusiast & I support the Airshow but I too would find a plane constantly circling to be a nuisance. I very much doubt that it has anything to do with training - circling the same spot isn't going to teach navigation.

    There are vast areas of open land within minutes of Galway Airport where one can fly & annoy no one. Also when his engine fails he will be far better off flying over field rather than the City especially as he isn't going to get long to find a landing spot.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Well done
    Ref my post above here is the link to the charity jump
    http://www.su.nuigalway.ie/site/view/2417/
    So what? They never asked me would I like a good helping of noise pollution on my otherwise quiet Saturday afternoon, did they? I don't owe them anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,961 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    The only reason to circle would be to gain height. No reason why a pilot can't circle over the sea & then turn onto an Easterly approach. If it's to give the student a good view then fine but don't do enough times to cause annoyance. How long was the plane circling for ?.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭loser2old4board


    The engine noise coming off this particular 'plane was extraordinarily loud. It sounded like it was just a few hundred feet high.

    Yeah, I noticed that today as well. It didn't ruin my day or anything.
    Question: Does anybody know if there are any limits to the noise a plane can make?
    One of the regular weekend ones out of Galway airport makes a lot of noise.
    It's one of the smaller ones that takes off and lands and circles several times in the space of a couple of hours. (Not the bigger passenger planes)
    Could they put a bit of a silencer on it? :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    I could hear it at various noise levels throughout the day, sometimes the drone would be a good few minutes at a time.
    In fairness it didn't seem to be quite as bad as the guys last year who were definitely just doing laps of the city boundary every day. Today it seemed to come and go, maybe as they went back out to the jump site.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,961 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Jump planes are noisy when climbing on full throttle & the noise seems louder when they circle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭loser2old4board


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Quote:

    Ref my post above here is the link to the charity jump

    http://www.su.nuigalway.ie/site/view/2417/


    NUIG! Should have known!
    Lets blame the students and merge it with the Rag Week thread. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,084 ✭✭✭Hyperbullet


    Heard it going around as well today but I have far better things to do on a lovely Saturday than complaining about the noise of a small aircraft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 688 ✭✭✭Aerohead


    You just cant please people can you always looking for something to complain about, looking forward to tomorrows jumps at the Airport

    Plenty of noise :D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Aerohead wrote: »
    You just cant please people can you always looking for something to complain about, looking forward to tomorrows jumps at the Airport

    Plenty of noise :D:D:D

    Give me an F22 Raptor, now thats noise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,961 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Yep but that's a proper noise. I once lived over the favoured flightpath for glider tugs - drives you nuts !.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Back seat modding? They'll love you around here newbie.

    Dan would you like to come parachute jumping with me next week? I'll even fix your parachute for you!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    Dan would you like to come parachute jumping with me next week? I'll even fix your parachute for you!!!!
    If you must know, I'll be out there tomorrow "adjusting" a few packs myself.:D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Aerohead wrote: »
    You just cant please people can you always looking for something to complain about, looking forward to tomorrows jumps at the Airport

    Plenty of noise :D:D:D
    Well just keep them to the ****ing airport please then, unless you guys want to jump out over the city centre!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    If you must know, I'll be out there tomorrow "adjusting" a few packs myself.:D

    FFS.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 10,087 ✭✭✭✭Dan_Solo


    Steyr wrote: »
    FFS.

    Someone else offered to do the exact same to me and you didn't see fit to have a whine about that you double standarded pillock.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Michael Angelo.


    IBTL :D

    Who ever is flying around, fair play to ye, I wish there was 50 more like ye. Galway Airport needs all the support it can get in this depressing country. Also I live under the flight path of aircraft leaving Galway and I couldnt give a toss. Unfortunately I had to work today I missed all the commotion :rolleyes:. Anyway moral of the story is, Keep on truckin (flying). More power to ye!! (especially when taking off)... Ill get my coat.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,727 ✭✭✭✭Sherifu




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Michael Angelo.


    While i'm here..

    Dont go on holidays here (anyone with aircraft noise issues), it may cause insanity. :D


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAfQwDizpRo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,266 ✭✭✭Steyr


    Dan_Solo wrote: »
    Someone else offered to do the exact same to me and you didn't see fit to have a whine about that you double standarded pillock.

    Attack the post not the poster besides you just made this the most useless Thread of the Month. Ban right there. :P


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