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Mrs Windsor Accepts Invite to visit Ireland

  • 04-03-2011 5:36pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭


    Its officially happening now. Mrs Windsor has accepted the invite of the Irish President.

    Queue thousands of Indo column inches telling us this is a defining moment in our nations maturing and anyone who has the slightest question over the lady or the visit.

    I cannot wait.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    IMHO she would be welcome. Good for tourism, good for business, therefore more jobs here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Hopefully im on my holidays in spain the day she comes over!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭OhNoYouDidn't


    nuac wrote: »
    IMHO she would be welcome. Good for tourism, good for business, therefore more jobs here.

    And what happens when Dublin becomes a war zone?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    And what happens when Dublin becomes a war zone?

    Why would Dublin become a war zone ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Lapin wrote: »
    Why would Dublin become a war zone ?
    It won't.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭wildefalcon


    Err, It's Mr. and Mrs. P. Mountbatten that's coming.

    In OUR country it is traditional that the woman adopt the surname of the man.

    Simple mistake.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭hoorsmelt


    As Commander in Chief of an army which is up to its elbows in blood in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention her position as an unelected feudal figurehead, I object to her visit. This of course is without mentioning the crimes committed by her armed forces on this island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    Err, It's Mr. and Mrs. P. Mountbatten that's coming.

    In OUR country it is traditional that the woman adopt the surname of the man.

    Simple mistake.

    in civilised countries its traditional that people call other people by the names they call themselves.

    ah, i see my mistake...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    hoorsmelt wrote: »
    As Commander in Chief of an army which is up to its elbows in blood in Iraq and Afghanistan
    So Barack Obama wouldn't be welcome either?
    not to mention her position as an unelected feudal figurehead,
    The people of her country do not (As a whole) take issue with that. If they want to have an unelected feudal figurehead, it's their problem.


    It's not as if she's coming in to launch an invasion. She's coming on a diplomatic visit as a mark of Ireland and England's modern relationship.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭hoorsmelt


    So Barack Obama wouldn't be welcome either?
    No.

    The people of her country do not (As a whole) take issue with that. If they want to have an unelected feudal figurehead, it's their problem.


    It's not as if she's coming in to launch an invasion. She's coming on a diplomatic visit as a mark of Ireland and England's modern relationship.

    Alot of British people do take umbrage with the monarchy- esp. in Scotland and Wales. And she and her representatives do retain significant constitutional powers despite being unelected. Just read the history of Gough Whitlams dismissal by the Queens personal rep in Australia, the Governor General, in 1975. The Queens visit won't change relations for the better, as the dissidents will use it as a recruiting tool, and in any case the dialectic of relationships between the UK and Ireland has changed with their multi-lateral loan to us last December. They are interested in maintaining good relations so as to ensure they are repaid, nothing more.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    And what happens when Dublin becomes a war zone?

    Arrests of toerags hopefully. Protest is a right but if you cant do it peacefully, you should have your skull cracked open til what little brains you have melt into the tarmac


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Dublins gonna be wrecked.....

    Hopefully I will avoid most of that when Im out protesting, stupid stupid idea to have that woman over here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,518 ✭✭✭OS119


    hoorsmelt wrote: »
    As Commander in Chief of an army which is up to its elbows in blood in Iraq and Afghanistan...

    you'll be protesting outside Pheonix Park everyday as well then?

    coz, stupid question really, you do know that Ireland has troops within the NATO force in Afghanistan and that they share the exact same chain of command as every Brish soldier in Helmand Province, and indeed they have exactly the same military and political objectives as every British soldier in Helmand Province?

    of course its a stupid question - i have no doubt that a person with your obvious interest and deep knowledge in such world-wide issues would be fully aú fait with long-standing Irish policy in this area...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    hoorsmelt wrote: »
    No

    You speak for Ireland now do you? If you don't like it protest, peacefully. And the most peaceful way to do it is ignore her (or Obamas) visit. Stay at home


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Dublins gonna be wrecked.....

    Hopefully I will avoid most of that when Im out protesting, stupid stupid idea to have that woman over here.
    It will only be wrecked because you lot can't handle it or have moved on fully. Shame.

    Looking forward to it. I might go down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭g5fd6ow0hseima


    Now matter how we look upon monarchs, at the bottom of it all, they're simply celebrated inbred welfare scroungers.

    If they paid for their own 'visit', let them off. But why should the state fork out loads of money on security and other arrangements when there's more important things that it could be spent on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Dublins gonna be wrecked.....

    Hopefully I will avoid most of that when Im out protesting, stupid stupid idea to have that woman over here.

    Hilarious. The Queen of England comes for a visit so we wreck our own city. Thats the intellect we are dealing with, just like the Love Ulster rioting geniuses :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Don't worry Wolfe Tone, you and the rest of the republican brotherhood will still be here when she's gone back and the visit is forgotton.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Hilarious. The Queen of England comes for a visit so we wreck our own city. Thats the intellect we are dealing with, just like the Love Ulster rioting geniuses :rolleyes:
    Could not make it up lol.

    There would be plenty of people hoping you burn the place to the ground. Make sure you do it right.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Hilarious. The Queen of England comes for a visit so we wreck our own city. Thats the intellect we are dealing with, just like the Love Ulster rioting geniuses :rolleyes:
    Do you seriously think the orange crowd wont be down and attempt to lord it up?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Hilarious. The Queen of England comes for a visit so we wreck our own city. Thats the intellect we are dealing with, just like the Love Ulster rioting geniuses :rolleyes:

    The thing that got me was that was exactly what the Love Ulster crowd wanted. They played right into their hands and the marchers went back home with their worst beliefs confirmed.

    Same thing for Lizzie's visit, if the Republic can welcome her and host her as any other dignitary of a foreign state and don't riot and smash the place up, it gives Unionists a lot less room to claim that we wouldn't respect their traditions in any possible United Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Do you seriously think the orange crowd wont be down and attempt to lord it up?

    Let them. Show them that they're welcome to play their part in an inclusive and welcoming multi-cultural United Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Let them. Show them that they're welcome to play their part in an inclusive and welcoming multi-cultural United Ireland.
    They cant come down for a football match ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    They cant come down for a football match ffs

    Really? There was about as much trouble at that game as you'd expect at any football game. No riots, no arrests, no-one hospitalised.

    Look, you're obviously a Republican who hopes to see a United Ireland. What role do you want the Unionists to play in that United Ireland? You either include them, make them part of the state and respect their beliefs and traditions and try to be as inclusive as possible, or your ostracise them, have them outside society and have bombs going off all over the place.

    Smashing up Dublin because the Queen is visiting will just further entrench their belief that they are not welcome in the Republic and by proxy, in a United Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    ... stupid stupid idea to have that woman over here.

    Courtesy visits by heads of state are normal diplomacy. If you are right, and this particular visit is to be categorised as stupid, it is because of stupid people among our population.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Do you seriously think the orange crowd wont be down and attempt to lord it up?

    And lets not forget our friends in Londonderry. The Apprentice Boys.

    FFS Wolfe, wise up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Really? There was about as much trouble at that game as you'd expect at any football game. No riots, no arrests, no-one hospitalised.

    Look, you're obviously a Republican who hopes to see a United Ireland. What role do you want the Unionists to play in that United Ireland? You either include them, make them part of the state and respect their beliefs and traditions and try to be as inclusive as possible.

    Smashing up Dublin because the Queen is visiting will just further entrench their belief that they are not welcome in the Republic and by proxy, in a United Ireland.
    Im not gonna be smashing anything up at all, I think its stupid for anything to be trashed at all, will happen though, as I said I hope when Im peacefully protesting I wont be caught up in any of that.

    They dont want to be included at all imo, even if we all went out with union jacks it would make no difference.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    What's the bets that Philip will manage to say something that's offensive to everyone ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Im not gonna be smashing anything up at all, I think its stupid for anything to be trashed at all, will happen though, as I said I hope when Im peacefully protesting I wont be caught up in any of that.

    They dont want to be included at all imo, even if we all went out with union jacks it would make no difference.
    Can't all you be peaceful? At the end of the day, the city will only suffer and the Queen will barely notice.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭hoorsmelt


    OS119 wrote: »
    you'll be protesting outside Pheonix Park everyday as well then?

    coz, stupid question really, you do know that Ireland has troops within the NATO force in Afghanistan and that they share the exact same chain of command as every Brish soldier in Helmand Province, and indeed they have exactly the same military and political objectives as every British soldier in Helmand Province?

    of course its a stupid question - i have no doubt that a person with your obvious interest and deep knowledge in such world-wide issues would be fully aú fait with long-standing Irish policy in this area...

    Actually yes, I was aware of that. The Irish state has proven itself to be a willing tool of imperialism in Chad and Afghanistan. I've been on plenty of anti-war demos btw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Can't all you be peaceful? At the end of the day, the city will only suffer and the Queen will barely notice.
    I can only speak for myself, which I have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I can only speak for myself, which I have.
    So basically what your saying is those people on that republican forum are going to organise a riot or people with them will? How do you think that will come across the majority of people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Post colonial complex of Irish elites strikes again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    So basically what your saying is those people on that republican forum are going to organise a riot or people with them will? How do you think that will come across the majority of people?
    What I see happening is a large peaceful protest turning sour due to a large amount of loyalists coming down for the day and winding everyone up on purpose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    What I see happening is a large peaceful protest turning sour due to a large amount of loyalists coming down for the day and winding everyone up on purpose.
    I don't know if enough loyalists will care as she comes to N.I a good number of times anyway.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    What I see happening is a large peaceful protest turning sour due to a large amount of loyalists coming down for the day and winding everyone up on purpose.

    Not a chance. Eirigi and their rent-a-mob will be going out to smash up the place regardless of who turns up.

    They had absolutely zero contact with those Love Ulster idiots when they came down because of the policing but still managed to tear up O'Connell Street. People like them need, and seek, no excuse to riot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    What I see happening is a large peaceful protest turning sour due to a large amount of loyalists coming down for the day and winding everyone up on purpose.

    By doing what? Whatever they do, unless it involves brick missiles into garda faces, smashing windows of retailers and cars, lighting fires, burning out cars, opportunist theft and drunken lecherous violence (ya know, all the things some so-called Ireland loving republicans did at the Love Ulster parade) then any violent retaliation is wholly undeserved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Not a chance. Eirigi and their rent-a-mob will be going out to smash up the place regardless of who turns up.

    They had absolutely zero contact with those Love Ulster idiots when they came down because of the policing but still managed to tear up O'Connell Street. People like them need, and seek, no excuse to riot.
    Eirigi arent that bad tbh.

    Maybe you are right, I can only say what I want to do and why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭loldog


    This should be a happy occasion. Don't forget Prince Philip lost an uncle in the Troubles too. This might not be an easy visit for them either, especially at their age. Whatever problems people might have with the British Government, please let's make these pair feel welcome.

    .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭Laminations


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Eirigi arent that bad tbh.

    Maybe you are right, I can only say what I want to do and why.

    Well you haven;t expalined why. If you disagree with it why not just stay home, ignore it. She's not coming with an army to invade


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Well you haven;t expalined why. If you disagree with it why not just stay home, ignore it. She's not coming with an army to invade
    Ive explained why a million times in the million other threads we have on this subject.


    I have a right to peacefully protest and I will do so, I wouldnt feel comfortable to hide away at home and not speak up for what I believe.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Just had a look at the websites of The President of Ireland and The Queen of the UK to see what they had to say about the visit.

    The Queen's website www.royal.gov.uk doesn't reveal anything other than the fact that the announcement has been made. Though they could have given Áras an Uachtárain a capital Á. :eek:

    Unfortunately, our President's website www.president.ie looks as though it hasn't been updated for over a month. :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    nuac wrote: »
    IMHO she would be welcome. Good for tourism, good for business, therefore more jobs here.

    LMAO thats what they said about the Lisbon treaty lollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
    Here we go again haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,067 ✭✭✭Gunmonkey


    By doing what? Whatever they do, unless it involves brick missiles into garda faces, smashing windows of retailers and cars, lighting fires, burning out cars, opportunist theft and drunken lecherous violence (ya know, all the things some so-called Ireland loving republicans did at the Love Ulster parade) then any violent retaliation is wholly undeserved.

    Sure we had half of those things at the student protests over the supposed reintroduction of fees a few months back, and the other half will be delivered in Dublin city centre come March 17th, just as St Paddy envisioned....bless him.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭Soldie


    This is great news, mainly because it'll send the armchair republicans into an apoplectic fury.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    I for one welcome the visit -it'll be a great, not to mind cheap, way to remodel/renovate large tracts of Dublin city centre by simply letting the tracksuited hordes loose on the day.

    Also, many sports/electrical/games outlets in the City centre will enjoy the additional publicity as many of their items will literally fly out the door.

    Additional employment will also be provided to Tony O'Reilly's assorted hacks/senators who will stop writing articles such as "Why Katy French was the Light of our Lives" and concentrate on grovelling obsequiously and practice tugging their forelocks weeks in advance.

    Me, personally, I don't give a f**k who comes to visit.

    I just want to laugh at the riots and the media furore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭dan_d


    Nothing to do with any of us except McAleese and her entourage, and some gardai.
    The rest of us will likely find (amazingly) that life will go on as normal.Unless there's a number of idiots out there looking to publicly embarrass the country.
    Maybe we should all just concentrate on getting on with our lives and worrying about the important stuff, instead of the 48 hours(?) an elderly woman will spend in a couple of buildings in Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    dan_d wrote: »
    Nothing to do with any of us except McAleese and her entourage, and some gardai.
    The rest of us will likely find (amazingly) that life will go on as normal.Unless there's a number of idiots out there looking to publicly embarrass the country.
    Maybe we should all just concentrate on getting on with our lives and worrying about the important stuff, instead of the 48 hours(?) an elderly woman will spend in a couple of buildings in Dublin.

    While we bail out the banks and she sits on her high horse at the expense of the nation and the tax payer.That would feed and cloth and inject what they think 8 million into the country rather then on an old foggy who still is controlling part of our country? Let us see no wont sit by quiet why they give us the two fingers again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    dan_d wrote: »
    there's a number of idiots out there looking to publicly embarrass the country.

    Myers
    Harris
    Dudley-Edwards
    Bruton
    I'll throw in John Waters as well. What the heck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Didn't McAleese mention several times during her 1997 campaign that she was a Northern nationalist?

    Hypocrite!


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