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Burglar cut off artist's fingers...

  • 03-03-2011 11:08am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭tommy21


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0303/1224291212601.html?via=mr

    Burglar cut off artist's fingers

    Thu, Mar 03, 2011

    A BURGLAR who cut a number of fingers from an artist’s hand and used knives on her “like a butcher” during a break-in will be sentenced at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court in July.

    James Kenny (35) pushed his way into the woman’s apartment wearing a balaclava and took items before binding and gagging the woman, and later attacking her. He told gardaí he had no reason to attack the woman, had a problem with painkillers, and had just wanted to get money.

    The woman described Kenny as using the knives on her “like a butcher”. She said she was sliding around in blood and felt her only option at one point was to play dead. She lost consciousness and when she awoke made her way to a local hotel, where she collapsed and staff called an ambulance.

    The victim needed to be resuscitated on arrival at hospital and had suffered three deep facial lacerations, along with life-threatening wounds. She had stab wounds to her neck, abdomen and chest.

    Her ring and little finger had been amputated at joints and her middle and index finger partially amputated. Doctors were able to reattach her middle finger, but she lost the other finger portions. Her facial scars are still visible.

    Kenny, of Eden Block, Prospect Hill, Finglas, Dublin, pleaded guilty to aggravated burglary with a knife and machete at another block of the Prospect Hill complex, and to intentionally or recklessly causing serious harm to the woman on September 2nd, 2009. Judge Tony Hunt adjourned sentencing until July 4th next to allow Kenny to be psychologically assessed in prison.

    The woman is now unable to hold a pen. She had an exhibition in St Stephen’s Green in 2006 to some acclaim and had illustrated a children’s book. She had planned to illustrate a further book before the attack.

    Kenny has a number of previous convictions for theft and a conviction for a serious assault. In that incident he broke into the home of a man and tied him up. When the man tried to escape he stabbed him repeatedly. The man escaped and then Kenny stabbed the man’s partner 10 times. He received a four-year sentence for that offence.

    Breffni Gordon, defending, said a “psychological strategy” should be put in place for Kenny, and he should first be assessed by the Prison Service. Mr Gordon will give his plea in mitigation for Kenny at the next hearing.

    © 2011 The Irish Times


    I wonder what the punishment will be, going by all the other soft touches in our judicary of late :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭bigwormbundoran


    I saw that alright, tis quite the low act now I must say, the fellas clearly a bit mental though so id say he ill get a long ould sentence now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Psychological strategy my hole. Just imprison him and leave him there as long as the law allows. That is foul.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Is there no public safety clause in the courts? Proven track record of f****ing people up should equate to a really really long sentence to protect everyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Psychological strategy my hole. Just imprison him and leave him there as long as the law allows. That is foul.

    that's the fucking problem, the law doesn't allow half enough


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,857 ✭✭✭✭Dave!


    Kenny has a number of previous convictions for theft and a conviction for a serious assault. In that incident he broke into the home of a man and tied him up. When the man tried to escape he stabbed him repeatedly. The man escaped and then Kenny stabbed the man’s partner 10 times. He received a four-year sentence for that offence.

    4 years?!

    Go and fvcking sh*te.

    I don't trust the judiciary in this country one bit, they are absolute handicaps.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,749 ✭✭✭✭wes


    The guy has already engaged in a similar attack, and imho he should be locked up for the rest of his life. If he is mentally ill, its pretty clear that he is a danger to the public, and should similarly be locked up for the rest of his life. Either way he needs to be locked up, so he can't hurt anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭Bubs99


    The sentences given in Ireland to rapists, murderers etc are unreal!

    What infuriates me is...they get let out early for "good behaviour"!!!

    I feel so sorry for the lady who lost her fingers, as I am an artist also and would be distraught if that happened to me.

    That man almost killed two others and got a crap sentence, let out early as per usual and goes and does it again like most do all because they pretty much get away with it in this country!

    No wonder women and men dont report rapes and abuse...because the rapist usually gets away with it too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Donal Og O Baelach


    tommy21 wrote: »
    Kenny has a number of previous convictions for theft and a conviction for a serious assault. In that incident he broke into the home of a man and tied him up. When the man tried to escape he stabbed him repeatedly. The man escaped and then Kenny stabbed the man’s partner 10 times. He received a four-year sentence for that offence.

    Releasing this man back into society, with the certain knowledge that he had not been rehabilitated, should be a criminal offence in itself.
    It's similar to letting a wild animal out of a zoo and setting him up with a flat in the inner city.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    the chair?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    FatherLen wrote: »
    the chair?

    The only chair he'll get in an Irish court is this one:

    http://www.winningsupplies.com/images/products/231.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Nor me. You're almost better off taking the law into your own hands. As it is, you'll only get a few years anyway.


    Filty animal. Hope he has a miserable life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    tommy21 wrote: »
    When the man tried to escape he stabbed him repeatedly.

    Ya see that's attempted murder in my book, so why was the cnut even released? This is the problem with our antiquated judicial system and it's lack of protection for society and crime victims.

    The poor woman's wounds again for me clearly indicate attempted murder. So the b@stard should never see the light of day again. Or perhaps amputate his arms and blind him, then fcuk the scumbag into prison for life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭S.R.F.C.


    4 years for his last one is unreal, f*cking gob****es, definitely has to be locked up for life now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,331 ✭✭✭✭bronte


    Four years? For fcuks sake.

    Look at this guys record....he needs to be taken off the streets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Dogs are put down for less. There should be a 3 strikes your out rule for sh!t like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Bubs99 wrote: »
    The sentences given in Ireland to rapists, murderers etc are unreal!

    What infuriates me is...they get let out early for "good behaviour"!!!

    I feel so sorry for the lady who lost her fingers, as I am an artist also and would be distraught if that happened to me.

    That man almost killed two others and got a crap sentence, let out early as per usual and goes and does it again like most do all because they pretty much get away with it in this country!

    No wonder women and men dont report rapes and abuse...because the rapist usually gets away with it too.

    A barrister on national radio indicated that the reduction for good behaviouris automatic. It is taken off the minute a convict walks through the prison doors. It's only added back on if they f*ck up while in prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    We could really do with a good spring clean of the prisons.

    Put those incinerators to good use for people who are nothing but a threat to society.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    People have to start contacting their Fine Gael or Labour politicians about shoddy sentences. That man got 4 years for attempted murder but was probably given "assault". Then he went out and did the same again. I will be shocked if he will even get 10. We must have the most liberal justice system on the planet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 376 ✭✭LK_Dave


    That sentence proves that the higher echelons’ of the Irish justice system are out of touch with man/woman on the street. They live in their ivory towers protected by state of the art security systems with the Guards on demand. All the while refusing to take a pay cut like the rest of us because they claim it to be unconstitutional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Pity someone couldn't arrange that he "fell" on the way to prison, save us tens of thousands in keeping him locked up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 583 ✭✭✭PandyAndy


    What an absolute fúcking scumbag.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    I honestly don't know how victims in these cases can hold themselves back. If some guy broke into my house and stabbed my wife ten times, I'd have firebombed his house and watched the guy burn before he even had a chance to stand trial.

    Legally right? No, not even morally right, but I'd know that I wouldn't get any justice in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭GrizzlyMan


    makes me so fu4king angry, 4 fu4king years:mad::mad: that poor woman, the justice system is an absoulte disgrace:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    That's pretty fucking grim thing to do to somebody. If he had robbed her it was one thing, but to start stabbing and cutting her fingers off is fucking twisted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭checkyabadself


    I bear no animosity toward this clearly mentally ill man. The judicial system that released him after four years without rehabilitation is to be blamed.

    A man was in court recently for viciously attacking and raping a woman a mere 12 hours after being released for doing exactly the same crime twice previously. The second of his attacks happened hours after his first release also.

    Justice is nothing without rehabilitation. Anyone who wants offenders locked up without any concern as to the offenders placement or treatment, are themselves guilty of an injustice.
    Unfortunately mentally disturbed people show up on the radar when they commit their first offence. That is their fault. If/when they reoffend, that is our fault for hiding the issue away in a box and not treating the issue.

    Is it not glaringly obvious that the onus is on the sane people to keep the insane from re-offending. The insane have an excuse, what's ours?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Madelyn Juicy Arm


    That's twisted :confused:
    Psych evaluation or otherwise, he needs to be locked up for a long time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Stab someone 10 times and you get 4 years(excluding good behaviour), do you have to stab someone 20 times to get 8 years? Wtf!

    Any defenders of the legal system here defend that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    We really are some nation. How many times have we seen stuff like this happen?, how much longer can we sit back and do nothing?.

    At what point do we collectively stand up and say, no more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭aDeener


    Pauleta wrote: »
    People have to start contacting their Fine Gael or Labour politicians about shoddy sentences. That man got 4 years for attempted murder but was probably given "assault". Then he went out and did the same again. I will be shocked if he will even get 10. We must have the most liberal justice system on the planet.


    if anyone will do anything it would be fine gael to be fair! hopefully they do


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Bullet in the head for that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 403 ✭✭Humans eh!


    I believe that the victim should be able to prosecute the judiciary/state in some fashion for negligence in protecting her as a citizen of the state, based on the fact that he was clearly a danger to society. All the judiciary understands is money, so if there is a chance that they may lose some watch the system tighten up fast.

    Also a claim for loss of earnings for the rest of her life could be put on the waste of space who did this. (who will no doubt be on our streets again in another five or six years fitter, stronger and angrier). He should be made work in prison earning the going rate and every penny he earns goes to the victim, when he has paid off the debt (in this case when she retires) then and only then should his court appointed sentence begin.

    We have allowed crime to take the upper hand in this country and sadly more draconian action needs to be taken now. However the judiciary and the legal profession itself has become a bloated gravy train (like our political system) and seems to exist merely to feed itself and not to do what most people believe it should. i.e protect the citizens of the state from harm and discourage criminality and anti social behaviour. I am no fan of the Gardai but I imagine that it must be disheartening for them to see what their hard work comes to when sentencing (the non dangerous easy part) takes over.


    Its easy to say that our justice system is rubbish, it is not but it needs to wake up to the depth of public feeling and the suffering of its taxpaying lifeblood. I feel so sorry for the victim and the pointlessness of her injuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭checkyabadself


    bluewolf wrote: »
    That's twisted :confused:
    Psych evaluation or otherwise, he needs to be locked up for a long time

    A long time isn't going to prevent this monster from reoffending. He is either jailed for life (dies in custody) or treated before release. The duration of the sentence is irrelevant if he is not deemed to be no longer a danger to society.
    If it is decided he is untreatble then a mental facility is the only SANE thing the judicial system should place him.

    I'd be surprised if this guy is ever released. He sounds like a villain from a horror film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,015 ✭✭✭CreepingDeath


    I bear no animosity toward this clearly mentally ill man. The judicial system that released him after four years without rehabilitation is to be blamed.

    Should society have to be burdened with the cost and risk of unproductive and downright hostile elements ?

    I think we're too liberal by far when it comes to the law and it has destroyed society so badly that we can't trust one another due to fraud/theft/attack/violence etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    In that incident he broke into the home of a man and tied him up. When the man tried to escape he stabbed him repeatedly. The man escaped and then Kenny stabbed the man’s partner 10 times. He received a four-year sentence for that offence.

    Who in their right mind would give 4 years for that??? Does anyone know who that judge was?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭Pauleta


    syklops wrote: »
    Who in their right mind would give 4 years for that??? Does anyone know who that judge was?

    It should be 4 years for just breaking into the house, another 4 on top of that for holding them prisoner and at least 20 years for attempted murder.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Ah sure aren't we a grand liberal little country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I feel bad for the artist, that was her life and (possible) career which was taken away from her for what?..........absolutely nothing.

    It really pisses me off when I hear of these vicious crimes and it turns out the perpetrator was a repeat offender from an equally sick past crime.

    Utter bullshìt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 813 ✭✭✭CaSCaDe711


    He will obviously re-offend when out in a few years. Our judicial system seriously needs overhauling, scum like this should rot in prison.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    He'll likely get another daftly short sentence. Probably because of his "addiction issues and background". The usual BS in other words. BS because 99.999% of the people from wherever he's from aren't psychopathic scumbags who should be hug from the nearest gibbet.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Humans eh! wrote: »
    I believe that the victim should be able to prosecute the judiciary/state in some fashion for negligence in protecting her as a citizen of the state, based on the fact that he was clearly a danger to society. All the judiciary understands is money, so if there is a chance that they may lose some watch the system tighten up fast.

    Also a claim for loss of earnings for the rest of her life could be put on the waste of space who did this. (who will no doubt be on our streets again in another five or six years fitter, stronger and angrier). He should be made work in prison earning the going rate and every penny he earns goes to the victim, when he has paid off the debt (in this case when she retires) then and only then should his court appointed sentence begin.

    We have allowed crime to take the upper hand in this country and sadly more draconian action needs to be taken now. However the judiciary and the legal profession itself has become a bloated gravy train (like our political system) and seems to exist merely to feed itself and not to do what most people believe it should. i.e protect the citizens of the state from harm and discourage criminality and anti social behaviour. I am no fan of the Gardai but I imagine that it must be disheartening for them to see what their hard work comes to when sentencing (the non dangerous easy part) takes over.


    Its easy to say that our justice system is rubbish, it is not but it needs to wake up to the depth of public feeling and the suffering of its taxpaying lifeblood. I feel so sorry for the victim and the pointlessness of her injuries.
    QFT a bloody good post.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    I feel bad for the artist, that was her life and (possible) career which was taken away from her for what?..........absolutely nothing.

    It really pisses me off when I hear of these vicious crimes and it turns out the perpetrator was a repeat offender from an equally sick past crime.

    Utter bullshìt.

    I agree. I'm not an artist, but I'm a musician, and if someone had done that to me my livelihood would be gone down the drain too. Her life has been changed so drastically, and because this man was not properly detained and/or rehabilitated after his first sick sick crime.

    I don't even care what the government does about the economy - if they don't start making steps to fix the grave injustices of our sentencing system then they'll have failed in my eyes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,397 ✭✭✭✭Degsy


    Filthy,dirty,coawardly little bastard.
    Wes hould have a whip around to have him carved up when he gets to prison.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    fking scum of the earth..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 139 ✭✭Air_Bass


    Absolutely Right!
    There is not much chance of rehabilitating a depraved f**k like that.
    I for one would welcome the re-introduction of the death penalty in cases such as this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Judge Tony Hunt adjourned sentencing until July 4th next to allow Kenny to be psychologically assessed in prison.

    Psychologist: Yea, he's daft in the head and an utter scumbag. Lock him up permanently in the basesment, melt that key into a coin and let's go eat.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    We really are some nation. How many times have we seen stuff like this happen?, how much longer can we sit back and do nothing?.

    At what point do we collectively stand up and say, no more.

    I've a rope that's good for a hanging...

    ...anyone else up for a good'ole lynch mob?

    PS: bring yer own torches....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    I've a rope that's good for a hanging...

    ...anyone else up for a good'ole lynch mob?

    PS: bring yer own torches....

    Well, i was just saying. I didn't plan on actually doing anything about it. Some one else will probably do something eventually.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Got talking to a garda one time when I was in court as a witness. The guy on trial had something like 45 convictions. The garda was saying that the judges are so far removed from normal society that they really don't know what it's like to be a 'normal' person, and the sentences they hand out are pathetic. The garda said it was incredibly frustrating as the same people would pop up in court on trial. The judiciary in this country are living in cloud-cuckoo land. I guess they're from the same ilk as a lot of the politicians. 'Our betters' as Martin Mansergh once described them. Absolute joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Now if we could just get him for an upaid TV licence fine....... then he'd go down for a long time....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    I hope a bus drives over his own finger.............when hi is picking his nose at the same time.


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