Oldest Pub in Ireland?

danh789

I was out with a few mates for some pints tonight. The usually pub chat was had. However the question came up as to where/what is the oldest pub in Ireland. A few places around the country were mentioned but I think that was just lads making wild guesses. So does anyone actually know?

LoLth

always thought it was the Brazen head (oldest licensed establishment anyway)

http://www.irishcentral.com/travel/The-Top-10-oldest-pubs-in-Ireland---SEE-PHOTOS-117227933.html

seans bar seems to have been the oldest (athlone) dating from 900AD but it turns out its a hoax:

http://www.irelandlogue.com/craic/seans-bar-not-actually-the-oldest-pub-in-ireland.html

admiralofthefleet

the bleeding horse is pretty old too, but i would say its the brazen head

Praetorian Saighdiuir

http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/gormanston_cock_tavern.html


Maybe this ^^^

LighterGuy

Ah the irish

Dudess

The Brazen Head in Dublin is I think pretty much officially considered it, but there are claims that The Gateway (now An Réalt Dearg) in Cork is the actual one.

Goldenegg

Definitly the brazen head... I actually think that that's part of their slogan "oldest pub in Ireland", or something to that affect. I suspect it's to lure the "Irish" Americans in the door!

They do serve nice pints tho!

pappyodaniel

Sweeney's White Horse Bar in Ballyshannon Co.Donegal also claims to be Ireland's oldest pub.

AskMyChocolate

Pretty certain the Brazen Head is Dublin's oldest pub. Not sure if it's the oldest pub in Ireland though.

seanybiker

Thought t and h's was the oldest.
http://www.tandhdoolans.com/

FTGFOP

LighterGuy wrote: »

Ah the irish

Those guys aren't Irish.

aidan_r

LoLth wrote: »

seans bar seems to have been the oldest (athlone) dating from 900AD but it turns out its a hoax:

http://www.irelandlogue.com/craic/seans-bar-not-actually-the-oldest-pub-in-ireland.html

Look at the date on that article

Einhard

Not sure how long it's been operating as a pub, but the Kytler's Inn in Kilkenny dates itself to the 13th century. And it feels olderthan the Brazen Head and the like.

http://www.kytelersinn.ie/index.asp

juma

Sean's Bar is not only the oldest pub in Ireland, but also its claimed to be the oldest pub in Europe

bitemybanger

The Cock Tavern in Gormonston claims to be the oldest pub in Ireland

Biggins

bitemybanger wrote: »

The Cock Tavern in Gormonston claims to be the oldest pub in Ireland

Yep, thats the one I was thinking of too.

Seaneh

LoLth wrote: »

always thought it was the Brazen head (oldest licensed establishment anyway)

http://www.irishcentral.com/travel/The-Top-10-oldest-pubs-in-Ireland---SEE-PHOTOS-117227933.html

seans bar seems to have been the oldest (athlone) dating from 900AD but it turns out its a hoax:

http://www.irelandlogue.com/craic/seans-bar-not-actually-the-oldest-pub-in-ireland.html

/Facepalm

That article is fake...

A few years ago the owners of the brazen head and the owners of means bar were both on the gerry ryan (I think) show one morning having a back and forth making their case and the owners of the brazen head were forced to admit that Sean's Bar was the older of the two.

The wattle and mud on the wall is legit, it was studied by the national history museum when it was found and the certification from The Guinness Book of World Records awarded.


Sean's is the winner.

Dermo

It's Sean's Bar in Athlone according to guinness world records. That article is an april fool's joke.

biko

LoLth wrote: »

seans bar seems to have been the oldest (athlone) dating from 900AD but it turns out its a hoax:

http://www.irelandlogue.com/craic/seans-bar-not-actually-the-oldest-pub-in-ireland.html

Did you see the tags on the post? Tags: april the first, Athlone, Craíc, Sean's Bar

So I raided a few traveler halting sites for broken bits of machinery and fishing rods and bits of ****e to stick up and had the place gutted and re-done in 1990 to look like an old Irish pub. Some of the lads got a bit enthusiastic, I had to convince them that urinating on the walls to give it that “old Irish pub” atmosphere was out of the question. In any case, during the renovations the oxygen tank with Woody Harrelson’s face on it blew up there – so we just turned it into the fireplace.

sbsquarepants

bitemybanger wrote: »

The Cock Tavern in Gormonston claims to be the oldest pub in Ireland

That's probably the oldest gay bar or something.
The brazen head is Irelands oldest pub, 99% sure:D

Seaneh

sbsquarepants wrote: »

That's probably the oldest gay bar or something.
The brazen head is Irelands oldest pub, 99% sure:D

You're wrong.

I'm 100% sure of That.

darkdubh

Dudess wrote: »

The Brazen Head in Dublin is I think pretty much officially considered it, but there are claims that The Gateway (now An Réalt Dearg) in Cork is the actual one.

Theres about four pubs in Cork claiming that.The Gateway dates from the 1690's so,old but definetly not the oldest pub in Ireland.

--Kaiser--

Durty Nellys in Bunratty

Dolph Starbeam

As said the oldest pub in Ireland is Sean's Bar in Athlone, nice pub so it is.

juma

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

markesmith

It's Sean's Bar. The Brazen Head might be the oldest pub in the Pale :pac:

bitemybanger

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

Typical country arrogance toward Dublin. :rolleyes:

GrizzlyMan

LoLth wrote: »

seans bar seems to have been the oldest (athlone) dating from 900AD but it turns out its a hoax:

http://www.irelandlogue.com/craic/seans-bar-not-actually-the-oldest-pub-in-ireland.html

I couldnt help but Notice that article was posted by a man named "Sean" on April the 1st......maybe just a Coincidence

Aldebaran

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

Typical Roscommon arrogance, stealing pubs from Westmeath. :pac:

Dolph Starbeam

Aldebaran wrote: »

Typical Roscommon arrogance, stealing pubs from Westmeath. :pac:

Sean's Bar is on the Roscommon side of the Shannon :pac:

Aldebaran

Mark! wrote: »

Sean's Bar is on the Roscommon side of the Shannon :pac:

Oh right, I was confused by the fact that they list their address as Westmeath on their website.

Seaneh

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

Sean's is in Westmeath.
Don't let those dirty rossies try claim that part of Athlone!

Dolph Starbeam

Aldebaran wrote: »

Oh right, I was confused by the fact that they list their address as Westmeath on their website.

ah right, maybe i'm wrong then, i thought everything that side of the shannon was Roscommon, who cares really :pac:

juma

West of the Shannon is Roscommon. Fact!

Seaneh

Mark! wrote: »

ah right, maybe i'm wrong then, i thought everything that side of the shannon was Roscommon, who cares really :pac:

I care! My home address is on that side of town, I don't want to be associated either those dirty rossies!


The Westmeath county boundary goes across the river as far as shines pub in baylough, ganleys hardware on the common road and about halfway out to Clonoon (spelled way wrong) out the bog road.

If you ever played a football match against St. Peters FC you'd see where the boundry is because halfway out the road from the railway bridge the road becomes unpaved where Westmeath C.C. Stopped and roscommon C.C. Never bothered to continue.

Seaneh

juma wrote: »

West of the Shannon is Roscommon. Fact!

Well, you're just wrong.

my mum lives on the connacht side of town and when I lived there I was registered in Longford/Westmeath for elections. I voted in Westmeath in the locals. Westmeath C.C. Do all the works in the area and our address is Westmeath. As is the address of the 3 primary and secondary school around connacht street.
As per my earlier post, the roscommon county boundry starts further across the river.

JustAddWater

oldest pub? who knows

Oldest website... definitely? The spirit of 1995 lives on!

benwavner wrote: »

http://www.dave-cushman.net/bee/gormanston_cock_tavern.html


Maybe this ^^^

Dolph Starbeam

Seaneh wrote: »

I care! My home address is on that side of town, I don't want to be associated either those dirty rossies!


The Westmeath county boundary goes across the river as far as shines pub in baylough, ganleys hardware on the common road and about halfway out to Clonoon (spelled way wrong) out the bog road.

If you ever played a football match against St. Peters FC you'd see where the boundry is because halfway out the road from the railway bridge the road becomes unpaved where Westmeath C.C. Stopped and roscommon C.C. Never bothered to continue.

Ah right i get ya, i was in AIT so as far as i ever knew the other side of the Shannon was Roscommon, now i know.

We actually played against St. Peters B's only a couple weeks ago, i did notice the bad road alright.

MIRMIR82

Seaneh wrote: »

Well, you're just wrong.

my mum lives on the connacht side of town and when I lived there I was registered in Longford/Westmeath for elections. I voted in Westmeath in the locals. Westmeath C.C. Do all the works in the area and our address is Westmeath. As is the address of the 3 primary and secondary school around connacht street.
As per my earlier post, the roscommon county boundry starts further across the river.

Sorry Seaneh but i live in Offaly - my house is 5 miles from the Tipp border - i voted in the North Tipp constituancy and the Tipperary CoCo. come out to grit sometimes so it proves nothing!!:D

juma

I live within 10 miles of the area. This was something that was discussed many times when I was in school. While in recent times (the last 100-200 years) postal addesses have recognised this area as Westmeath, prior to this the Shannon WAS the division between Connacht and Leinster, Roscommon and Westmeath. And who we to argue with 20,000 year old history.

Seaneh

MIRMIR82 wrote: »

Sorry Seaneh but i live in Offaly - my house is 5 miles from the Tipp border - i voted in the North Tipp constituancy and the Tipperary CoCo. come out to grit sometimes so it proves nothing!!:D

Westmeath county boundry comes across the river, you can check any map, even google maps. The library beside the church was a Westmeath county library. The address of every house between the bridge and shines pub and ganleys hardware is Westmeath. I know this for fact, I'm from the area!

Dolph Starbeam

MIRMIR82 wrote: »

Sorry Seaneh but i live in Offaly - my house is 5 miles from the Tipp border - i voted in the North Tipp constituancy and the Tipperary CoCo. come out to grit sometimes so it proves nothing!!:D

Your location even says Tipperary :eek:

vampire of kilmainham

juma wrote: »

Sean's Bar is not only the oldest pub in Ireland, but also its claimed to be the oldest pub in Europe

the brazen head is the oldest pub in ireland dating back to 1175 so it's 900yrs old:eek:

Seaneh

vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

the brazen head is the oldest pub in ireland dating back to 1175 so it's 900yrs old:eek:

Since when is the 12th century earlier than the 10th century?

MIRMIR82

Mark! wrote: »

Your location even says Tipperary :eek:

Ya i'm from Tipp - reluctantly bought a house in Biffoland!!

airman101

Sean's in athlone feels pretty old, do they still have the sawdust on the groung??? the cock tavern in gormanstown has the word OLDEST PUB IN IRELAND written in massive writing on the side of the building, wonder if that makes it true??????

Dolph Starbeam

airman101 wrote: »

Sean's in athlone feels pretty old, do they still have the sawdust on the groung??? the cock tavern in gormanstown has the word OLDEST PUB IN IRELAND written in massive writing on the side of the building, wonder if that makes it true??????

I haven't been in there in about 4 or 5 months but they had the saw dust on the ground back then, it does add to that old feel of the place.

Dermo

Seaneh wrote: »

Since when is the 12th century earlier than the 10th century?

He's a vampire, time can get a bit fuzzy when you don't age

vampire of kilmainham

juma wrote: »

Sean's Bar is not only the oldest pub in Ireland, but also its claimed to be the oldest pub in Europe

no its not the brazen head in dublin is trading since 1175 iam a vampire and i used to pop in there for ye ol pint of ale in previous centuries an drain the blood from the necks of handsome young british soldiers and beautiful ladies toooo [sure i wasent fussey]:D:D:D

vampire of kilmainham

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

stop talking sh1t it's the brazen head is the oldest go on ya feckin culchie ya go on outa dat get upppp the yard theres theres a smell a benjie:D:D:eek::eek:

RichieC

juma wrote: »

So we have a pub in Roscommon which is possibly the oldest in Europe (as claimed by many experts) and yet the Dubs still try to claim that they have the oldest pub in Ireland! Typical Dublin arrogance :rolleyes:

Typical indeed, typical Oirish ****e here tbh, arguing over the oldest boozer?