Kettlebells / Kettkleworx????

cocker5

Hi Guys,

Has anyone used kettle bells or tried:

http://www.kettleworx.co.uk/index.html?from=adwords

I do some running but need to tone alongside the running!

Thanks,

C

holdfast

They are too light, starting weight for a girl is 8kg and a guy is 16kg. For the more advanced its 16kg for a girl and 24kg for a guys. try buy kettlebell in dublin in google.

Mellor

holdfast wrote: »

They are too light, starting weight for a girl is 8kg and a guy is 16kg. For the more advanced its 16kg for a girl and 24kg for a guys. try buy kettlebell in dublin in google.

The real product is DVDs of kettlebell workouts, not actual kettlebells.

Main package comes with a shtty free 5lb one, and aims to progress to 20lb. The reason these are lighter than normal kbells is that the program is more an aerobic workout. I doubt you would be able to do that workout with your normal weight.

OP, Kettlebells are great imo. I use them at some point everyweek. But the kettleworx is just taking the benefits of kbells and making it into a gimmick. Aerobic class type workouts to appeal to a certain types of women. High rep light weight so its not scary.

You don't need 6 hours of workouts dvd. There is tons of far better stuff on youtube.
You don't need to jump around like an eijit, moving is complicated ways. Simple powerful movements are the best.
You'll burn more calories using a heavy weight for brief periods taken breaks between sets and rotating excercises. Transform might link some actual workouts of his clients to show you (rather than actors)

Transform

i saw the advert on the TV for this kettleworx and there was some reallllly questionable form on many of the exercises (Dan John would not be impressed) - lots of over squatting the swing and turning the kettlebell into a gimick (its just a really good tool to use in workouts).

Here are a few metcons using kettlebells and no need for using a really light weight (though some exercises do require lighter weights to begin with of course)

Swings and sit ups -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG_Zd-d7dzY

rows and sit ups -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VlV5-AWI9E

swings and skipping ladder (she is in her 40's and using a 12kg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqr3AZAj0M0

3mins AMRAP with 400m run -

keep in mind that the kettlebell is a tool no different than a barbell so its best to use it as part of a whole program (full body weights session, foam rolling, stretching, metcons etc)

Hope that helps and get a decent KB from buy http://www.buykettlebelldublin.com/ as mark is really nice and get a good piece of kit that will last a lifetime

cocker5

Guys,

Thanks a million for all your advice.... i really apprecaite it.

I have a 5kg kettle bell but will incres it to 7.5 or 8 kg for now...

I will def have a look at the videos! and try and do my own routines via you tube etc....

Thanks again guys... very helpful as always

Cocker5

Mellor

Transform wrote: »

was some reallllly questionable form on many of the exercises (Dan John would not be impressed) - lots of over squatting the swing and turning the kettlebell into a gimick

Some questionable excercises, standing figure 8s???
One arm snatchs all the way

jersey_shore

i find it ironic that transform would question other peoples form when he displays horrific form himself in his last video. Very little hip snap and more of a squatting movement and as for that unnecessary finish with his arms flailing over head, well lets just say I'd advise him to see a certified kb instructor for his own well being. The upswing might be the "crossfit way" but its futile to your overall achievements with the swing.

SanoVitae

The light kettlebells are great for drilling techniques when you're first learning them.

For example, you don't want to try out your first kettlebell windmill using 16kg.

The Kettleworx program is total ****e though.

pieceofcake

Attending these kettlebell classes at the minute: www.dublinkettlebells.com - teacher is excellant and very focussed on technique which is great and you also get a good workout. Maybe give some classes a try and do at home also?

Hygro

I was going to go down the road of that kettleworx programme, but decided to hold off till I saw some proper reviews about it and judging from these ones (http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B002WNCBZU/ref=cm_cr_dp_all_helpful?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending) it seems okay, though the majority of the people reviewing it are female. So I'm stll undecided, mainly because of the price.

mickmac

For what its worth the kettlebell classes Dave Hedges does in Wild Geese near the corner of Pearse St and Westland Row are excellent. He does teaching seminars and daily classes.

Can't recommend them highly enough.

donx4

mickmac wrote: »

For what its worth the kettlebell classes Dave Hedges does in Wild Geese near the corner of Pearse St and Westland Row are excellent. He does teaching seminars and daily classes.

Can't recommend them highly enough.

i use ta do bjj in Wild Geese, great gym. Paul one of the instructors there even set us up with a bjj specific routine using the kettlebells. there a real fun way ta work out

Transform

its futile to my overall achievement with the swing?

In crossfit thats exactly what is taught - full extenstion at the top. Its impossible to judge a swing in crossfit competitions unless there is full extension.

If i was doing it RKC style i would have stopped much eariler. Yes i could do with more hip snap but i have never once had issues with my kettlebell swing or its effects on my body but thanks for your concern and if you would like to post up a video of your own (NOT someone elses) then great.

Dixie Chick

I attend kettlebell classes in cork, we do lots of hard style breathing and hip snap. My instructor is great, she does say that there are many methods and styles to swinging and this is the method she chooses personally for endurance. She was giving out stink the other week abouut the trainers from Americas Biggest Loser as she says they use truely horrific form in their dvds. The guy, (Bob?) does a turkish get up backwards
http://joshsgarage.typepad.com/articles/2011/02/bob-harper-from-biggest-loser-how-to-do-turkish-get-ups-wrong.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Lose-Stubborn-Fat+%28Lose+Stubborn+Fat!%29

SanoVitae

jersey_shore wrote: »

The upswing might be the "crossfit way" but its futile to your overall achievements with the swing.

What do you mean by "overall achievements with the swing"? He's using the exercise to get a great workout, not break any records. As long as he's working hard, getting results and not causing himself injury, it doesn't matter whether he's using the kettlebell swing technique advocated by Crossfit, Pavel, Dan John or whoever.

Nice article by David McConkey of Combat Workshop Dublin here:

http://www.irishfitness.ie/FrontPage/Kettlebell-Swing-Trouble-shooting.html

It's interesting that despite coming from a Crossfit background, Dave prefers the Russian swing that the RKC use rather than the American swing favoured by Crossfit.

Transform

SanoVitae wrote: »

What do you mean by "overall achievements with the swing"? He's using the exercise to get a great workout, not break any records. As long as he's working hard, getting results and not causing himself injury, it doesn't matter whether he's using the kettlebell swing technique advocated by Crossfit, Pavel, Dan John or whoever.

Nice article by David McConkey of Combat Workshop Dublin here:

http://www.irishfitness.ie/FrontPage/Kettlebell-Swing-Trouble-shooting.html

It's interesting that despite coming from a Crossfit background, Dave prefers the Russian swing that the RKC use rather than the American swing favoured by Crossfit.

Agreed and I only use a full extension because if it comes up in a crossfit competition then thats whats bloody required whether i like it or not.

I DO NOT get all clients to use a full extension unless they can get there safely or they want to do crossfit as mostly what you will see is over extension of the hips at the top due to lack of a strong(er) midline stability which dave covers in his article

Mellor

Could somebody link to the different swings types. Pro and cons of each.
As I don't swing as high as Transform, and the funny part is, when it first came up in a metcon (CF Helen I think), I checked out a video over at crossfit. and the instructor, generally anywhere above shoulder and to vertical is fine. (he wasn't a crossfit instructor, but one they linked to)

Transform

its covered in the article mentioned on the previous page