wow austrailia is fair depressing

leedsfan88

so been in australia 3 weeks now, can't get anywork. Applied for 100's of jobs only got one interview for a job i didn't get. And on top of that its so much more expensive than i expected so if i don't get a job soon it looks like i'll be heading home early and flat arse broke... Wow looks like hitting oz was a massive mistake, i mean back home if i applied for even half the amount of jobs i.ve went for here i'd have had 20+ interviews like... Wtf argh

Zambia

Ok

What are you skilled at ?

have you tried moving companys?

caseyann

Hey leedsfan88,keep your chin up.Sorry to hear you are having troubles finding a job.Maybe someone who comes on boards near you there will be able to put a word in for you in their jobs down under.
Dont give up just yet,you haven't been there long.
Have you got a particular trade?

oh p.s the old get any job you can while waiting comes to mind as they really admire that there especially when not your skill.

Ozeire

leedsfan88 wrote: »

so been in australia 3 weeks now, can't get anywork. Applied for 100's of jobs only got one interview for a job i didn't get. And on top of that its so much more expensive than i expected so if i don't get a job soon it looks like i'll be heading home early and flat arse broke... Wow looks like hitting oz was a massive mistake, i mean back home if i applied for even half the amount of jobs i.ve went for here i'd have had 20+ interviews like... Wtf argh

What visa are you on in OZ and what sort of jobs are you looking for ?

What qualifications have you from back at home ?

3 Weeks doesn't seem that long only a settling in time . If it was 3 months would be worse .

aido79

Where in Australia are you? 3 weeks really isn't that long. I've been in Australia nearly 3 years and there has been a few times where I've been out of work for more than 3 weeks. It took me almost a month to get a job when I first got here.
I don't see how people think they can move to the other side of the world and just settle in and get a job straight away. Alot of people come over here thinking that Australia is some magical place full of jobs and parties. In reality it isn't that easy.

GiftofGab

How's the job situation in Melbourne?

ellaq

3 weeks really isn't that long. And yes Australia is expensive, has been now for a good few years.

Zambia

GiftofGab wrote: »

How's the job situation in Melbourne?

Good thanks .

Nick Diamond

Zambia wrote: »

Good thanks .

lol

cormaclynch

Zambia wrote: »

Good thanks .

...and you?

melb

leedsfan88 wrote: »

so been in australia 3 weeks now, can't get anywork. Applied for 100's of jobs only got one interview for a job i didn't get. And on top of that its so much more expensive than i expected so if i don't get a job soon it looks like i'll be heading home early and flat arse broke... Wow looks like hitting oz was a massive mistake, i mean back home if i applied for even half the amount of jobs i.ve went for here i'd have had 20+ interviews like... Wtf argh

Come back to me when you've been waiting near 3 months for a job and spent every day on seek, mycareer, gumtree, walking round cafes/bars/offies then you can complain. You might need to look at your CV, cover letter, follow-up calls, etc.
Plus with the $5000 you brought over you should have enough left to cover you for a few weeks.

Hasmunch

melb wrote: »

Come back to me when you've been waiting near 3 months for a job and spent every day on seek, mycareer, gumtree, walking round cafes/bars/offies then you can complain. You might need to look at your CV, cover letter, follow-up calls, etc.
Plus with the $5000 you brought over you should have enough left to cover you for a few weeks.

+1
Took me over 2 months to get my first interview

markymark21

leedsfan88 wrote: »

so been in australia 3 weeks now, can't get anywork. Applied for 100's of jobs only got one interview for a job i didn't get. And on top of that its so much more expensive than i expected so if i don't get a job soon it looks like i'll be heading home early and flat arse broke... Wow looks like hitting oz was a massive mistake, i mean back home if i applied for even half the amount of jobs i.ve went for here i'd have had 20+ interviews like... Wtf argh

Take a good luck at your CV and Cover letter... You gotta think 'is my CV going to stand out against the next guy'?

Anyway I believe sending a CV is always tricky.. your CV could be one of 500 y'know? You gotta go in in person to get that job

punchdrunk

as I was told by a Careers officer for the Northside Partnership here last year you need to edit your C.V to reflect the Job your applying for,rather than just having a single catch-all C.V that's either too broad or not detailed enough

check the company's website for any clews as to what they want
i.e if their about us page says
"we are a young energetic company driven by skilled individuals"
or "our focus is to give 100% satisfaction to our customers"

then throw these things back at them in your C.V
"I am a young skilled Individual who is very experienced in ensuring the Customer is 100% satisfied with our service"
emphasize on your C.V the skills they have stated they are looking for

obviously you don't have to use every single cliché that their site is flogging but this kind of thing definitely helps

b0lt

im heading over in 3 weeks. i know loads of friends just got over there an said theres hundreds of jobs they got work in 3 to 7 days. that was a month ago

GiftofGab

b0lt wrote: »

im heading over in 3 weeks. i know loads of friends just got over there an said theres hundreds of jobs they got work in 3 to 7 days. that was a month ago

In which city? What jobs did they get?

tech

What location are they living in? also what area of work are they working in?

m@cc@

I didn't spend longer that 2 weeks looking for jobs in Sydney or Melbourne. That was just for admin jobs as well.

http://www.freespirit.com.au/

I recommend the above link for getting jobs for backpackers.


(P.S. talking about going home after 3 weeks of job-hunting is ridiculous)

TheMilkyPirate

15 of my friends went over and all got jobs within a week this is in perth, Been talking to them a lot and always says there is loads of work over there.

mandrake04

m@cc@ wrote: »

(P.S. talking about going home after 3 weeks of job-hunting is ridiculous)

Maybe they didn't bring the Recomended $5000, sure havnt you heard that in Australia the pavements are paved in gold and sure employers are pulling the shirt off you back in the Airport with offers of fantastic jobs. Sure who needs $5K anyway?

Zambia

I beg to differ on clean up Australia day yesterday I found 10 bucks on the road, and an old lighter. So the streets are paved with cash.

WopTittyPop

It took me 2 months to get a job when I first got here! Just keep the head up, and keep at it. Something will come along eventually, and when it does your worries will be gone and you'll see all the positives of the country you're in. And there's a lot of them!

caseyann

Op never came back

Gregsor

I think alot of Irish heading think it is going to be a walk in the park with getting a job and the truth is if you are qualified and experienced in the position you are applying for you should have as good a chance as the next person.

A lottery really like everywhere else and as said a good cover note references and confident self presentation either be it on the phone or in the flesh should do the world of good in your favour.

I never had trouble getting work myself (chef) and my partner (healthcare assistant co-ordinator).

I thought in our area of employments and being Irish the employers saw us as an asset to their teams and that all boosted our chances but it still comes down to how you portray yourself in the end.

Doing all again this summer,can't wait .

mandrake04

Zambia wrote: »

I beg to differ on clean up Australia day yesterday I found 10 bucks on the road, and an old lighter. So the streets are paved with cash.

Could say you now have money to burn Zambia

Zambia

Good god no . That 10 has to last me the week.

Dudess

Three weeks is nothing - and no, you wouldn't get all those interviews if you were in Ireland...

b0lt

GiftofGab wrote: »

In which city? What jobs did they get?

one of them is a chef but 2 others got work in construction.
I'm guna try work in IT when i get over seems to be plenty on seek.com
In Melbourne by the way.

sonic.trip

There is jobs over here, but it can be hard depending on what visa you are on and what job you want to do. I've been here 6weeks now with my girlfriend, we are both on WHV's and I got a graduate engineering job within 8days with no previous experience but I was an electrician for a few years which helped.

My girlfriend on the other hand is doing her nut in at the minute, 6weeks looking everyday on seek, mycareer, gumtree, sending off cv's and cover letters for environmental/transport jobs and not one interview for what she wants to do. She has a masters as well which seems to mean absolutley nothing in Australia.

I have a friend that can't get a job in Science even with previous experience and shes been here since November, she was told by a compnay it was the WHV, which won't do you any favours. One company gave feedback to her when she asked and told her to put on her CV that her partner will be getting sponsored etc and it might increase her chances as it looks more permanent.

They think you are "too much of a risk" if you are on a WHV and looking for specific jobs.

My gf has been trying that as I will be getting sponsored but has heard nothing back yet,

She got a reply off one job last week and the first thing they asked was what visa was she on. can be a pain in the arse alright, at least I'm working for now and we can survive.

On top of that the recruitment compnaies won't give you the time of day, they work for the clients and only pick people with experience etc for interviews or callbacks. keep trying, make callls back for jobs you've applied to to, ask for feedback, apply to companies directly.

ellaq

I think the problem with the WHV is that it is supposed to be a holiday visa with the right to work. You can't really blame them for giving priority to residents, it wouldn't be fair.

Congrats on getting a job.

sonic.trip

ellaq wrote: »

I think the problem with the WHV is that it is supposed to be a holiday visa with the right to work. You can't really blame them for giving priority to residents, it wouldn't be fair.

Congrats on getting a job.

I except that alright, she rang back today to find out what the story was. She was told by the recruiter that they could not get an Australian person to fill the position and 14-15 highly skilled Irish people applied for the job and she couldn't interview any of them because of the WHV.

b0lt

There no point in looking for a serious job if you applied for a WHV, I'm going over for a year of drink and adventures

a working visa would be the one if ya want a serious job and your allowed stay as long as you want once your employed

Xavi6

baraca wrote: »

15 of my friends went over and all got jobs within a week this is in perth, Been talking to them a lot and always says there is loads of work over there.

This is correct.

mandrake04

sonic.trip wrote: »

I except that alright, she rang back today to find out what the story was. She was told by the recruiter that they could not get an Australian person to fill the position and 14-15 highly skilled Irish people applied for the job and she couldn't interview any of them because of the WHV.

Once you are in proper ...the opertunities are endless.

Father Damo

mandrake04 wrote: »

Once you are in proper ...the opertunities are endless.

Good for you for being in Australia proper :rolleyes:

OP- rather than hitting the well known job websites, if you are looking for admin/ office work go on gumtree.com.au and go to your relevant locale, and post your own ad LOOKING for work, rather than searching through wanteds on seek. Gumtree ad, "my name is x, Ive x years in experience in whatever", and post it with your number.

If its anything like back home, some of the ads on seek.com,au arent even real- back home its well known that in order to generate increased traffic for their respective job websites, employees of said websites put up fake job ads to gain views/ replies and then release figures at the end of the financial year for stock purposes. Fcuk seek.com, go to gumtree and post your own ad in the relevant sections. From the construction side I can tell you that you will get at least 3 or 4 calls after posting your own ad, whereas if you are applying for a job via email that 90 people have already applied for on seek, if its even a real job, your chances are low. And thats only construction- few if any admin workers even think of gumtree, whereas everyone in labouring uses it, you might get even more calls due to lack of competition. Also, because Australia is a less qualification centred country than Ireland, the entry level pay for an average no qualification admin job can be ridicilously good compared to home. Ive known Aussies to have the equiv of 20 euro an hour jobs in admin with no experience, but even with Irish girls most are getting between 650 and 700 dollars per week take home at entry level which is pretty high compared to home, at least when I left. Maybe try chancin your arm in your expected wage on your ad. Good luck.

Jumpy

Ah mods. You lifted his ban ...

Diddler82

Father Damo wrote: »

If its anything like back home, some of the ads on seek.com,au arent even real- back home its well known that in order to generate increased traffic for their respective job websites, employees of said websites put up fake job ads to gain views/ replies and then release figures at the end of the financial year for stock purposes. Fcuk seek.com,

Horse sh*t..

It is illegal to post a fake job and can involve fines. This is what I was told when I started my job as a recruiter over here.

PS - I am a recruiter but in a very specific area but unfortunately I am not in a position to assist the majority of people who post here. All of my clients requirement PR at least to be considered.

hussey

Father Damo wrote: »

Good for you for being in Australia proper :rolleyes:

Mod One day back and you are starting again.
Now I am warning you, if you start this petty tripe up again you will be banned.

hussey

Diddler82 wrote: »

Horse sh*t..

It is illegal to post a fake job and can involve fines. This is what I was told when I started my job as a recruiter over here.

No he's right, it's been going on for years, very common practice.

Sometimes the ad is a very vague ad looking for people and then they send applicants CV around etc.

Prime example was my job, there was a ad looking for J2EE experience I 'applied' the recruiter sent my CV on to a company and I was set up with interview, my boss told me a few months later they never advertised and the agency approached them, I asked him over a beer one day and he said they put up generic ads so can get CV to pass etc

the dee

It can be next to impossible to get a 'real' job on a WHV, like what you're trained in and qualified for. Backpacker jobs with a high turnover are things like call centres, sales, bar work, farm work, admin temping. That's where you'll be hired as a working holiday maker. It's very rare that a company will give a decent job to a transient.

Try temp agencies. Register with several different ones and keep phoning them to see if they have anything for you. That's how I got started in Australia.

Mellor

Father Damo wrote: »

If its anything like back home, some of the ads on seek.com,au arent even real- back home its well known that in order to generate increased traffic for their respective job websites, employees of said websites put up fake job ads to gain views/ replies and then release figures at the end of the financial year for stock purposes. Fcuk seek.com,

It does happen, but because of "stock purposes". For a start recuitment agency aren't publicly traded companies. Secondly, website hits isn't going to affect financial figures, i doubt any income comes for banner ads.

The reason is as hussy said. Simply to keep their stock of CVs maintained with those who are seeking work. Once a person finds a job (through them or otherwise) they are of no more use to them.

Have you even gotten a reply email saying you did not make the shortlist, but they'll keep your records on file. That's possibably what happened. I've gotten emails a weeks after looking about other jobs.

the dee wrote:

It can be next to impossible to get a 'real' job on a WHV, like what you're trained in and qualified for.

No it isn't.
I've had two long term jobs in my field. As week as a few months in between doing casual contracting, again same field. I'm not alone in this.

old_aussie

Loads of work in Wollongong, all sorts from office to labouring.

Helps if you have a trade.

markymark21

Gregsor wrote: »

I never had trouble getting work myself (chef) and my partner (healthcare assistant co-ordinator).

I.

Me and the girlfriend are heading over next November. I'm a restaurant supervisor and she is a bartender, we both have hospitality degrees and plently of experience. How easy is it to get a decent job in hotel/restaurant over there??

Gregsor

markymark21 wrote: »

Me and the girlfriend are heading over next November. I'm a restaurant supervisor and she is a bartender, we both have hospitality degrees and plently of experience. How easy is it to get a decent job in hotel/restaurant over there??

I worked on the Goldcoast for 2 years,first with the ALH Group who run a majority of the local taverns and they run quite a few hotels and leisure centres and own Danny Murphys :cool: and Woolworths and last but not least Caltex,i would recommend them(also receive a 5% staff discount card for the majority of them ).
Alot of the staff were working with partners in different sections of the establishments and they also give the opportunity to move between sister venues so you could travel a bit too,i only left them as i could not seem to get requested weekends off and i didn't want to be going through all that again and wanted some flexibility so i went to an agency.

Agency work was good and i could make a good weeks wages over 3 days then i also had the time to head off with the family for the weekends camping etc.

I also signed up with another group who done venue catering AFL matches Indy car races and that paid good but less frequent.

Trying to get the balance is the trick enough time off to enjoy the country and enough work to give you some Dollars to do it

I never had any trouble finding work on the Goldcoast and was often offered positions through word of mouth also.

markymark21

Gregsor wrote: »

I worked on the Goldcoast for 2 years,first with the ALH Group who run a majority of the local taverns and they run quite a few hotels and leisure centres and own Danny Murphys :cool: and Woolworths and last but not least Caltex,i would recommend them(also receive a 5% staff discount card for the majority of them ).
Alot of the staff were working with partners in different sections of the establishments and they also give the opportunity to move between sister venues so you could travel a bit too,i only left them as i could not seem to get requested weekends off and i didn't want to be going through all that again and wanted some flexibility so i went to an agency.

Agency work was good and i could make a good weeks wages over 3 days then i also had the time to head off with the family for the weekends camping etc.

I also signed up with another group who done venue catering AFL matches Indy car races and that paid good but less frequent.

Trying to get the balance is the trick enough time off to enjoy the country and enough work to give you some Dollars to do it

I never had any trouble finding work on the Goldcoast and was often offered positions through word of mouth also.

Sounds good, cheers!

Gregsor

No bother,just putting put up a link but i can't seem to open their homepage in any browser at the moment,but here it is www.alhgroup.com.au you could try later.

In all the states too i think.


Good luck.

Jumpy

old_aussie wrote: »

Loads of work in Wollongong, all sorts from office to labouring.

Helps if you have a trade.

Ah the Gong.

Fond memories. I used to live closer to that place than Sydney city.

elspecia

Hey yeah, i'm currently in perth looking for work, only been here 3 days, already in a house but rang up 12 guys today about jobs listed in the western australian and try all said they had filled the jobs...i mean i rang at 8 in the morning :mad:

But going to do my rsa online tonight me thinks, build a fake cv with lots of bar experence and allpy for some bar work

But i'm going to stay positive and also allpy for call centre jobs, sales, marketing and anything business related and hope my degree with stand to me...fingers crossed, i don't want a serious job while i'm here just something to pay my way and maybe save a 100 or so bucks a weeks to bring home or fund another year here or a year in NZ...

So OP keep the chin up, i know that it can get lonely out here, so far from home but man, things back home are so bad even if you work a ****e job here for your 12 months and safe some money it will be better than being on the dole or worse being on the dole with no spending spending money living with mammy and daddy

Hope you get yourself sorted and enjoy oz and the ozzie ladies...they are very lovely girls:cool:

myhorse

Diddler82 wrote: »

Horse sh*t..

It is illegal to post a fake job and can involve fines. This is what I was told when I started my job as a recruiter over here.

PS - I am a recruiter but in a very specific area but unfortunately I am not in a position to assist the majority of people who post here. All of my clients requirement PR at least to be considered.

.....

Smithy11

Hey, this is my first post!

We moved to Melbourne 2 months ago and to be completely honest things aren't going as well as i had hoped. My boyfriend has a job, to do with his college placement however his pay is not great at all for his skills.

I've been in hospitality for 10 years but even I am struggling to get bar work. I have two jobs and for instance last week i only worked 10 hours!! Speaking to alot of Irish and English they too are having the same problems. So many people have moved here that there is so much competition for work and of course employers prefer someone who is from the country and here for good, not just for the 6 months as per the terms of the working holiday visas.

Accomodation is very expensive, we are paying over 300 dollars a week for a tiny one bedroom apartment. After paying the bond (months rent) and deposit (months rent) it is a huge hit, plus if you need to buy any bits for the apartment. Luckily ours was fully furnished so only needed a few bits...thankgod for IKEA! never thought i would say that

We bought a car but i would never recommend getting a car here without a Rego. It is an absolute con trying to get the car registered and cost another 1500 dollars getting stuff fixed and paying for the rego and the RWC.

Anyway dont mean to be too depressing, if your in a wanted trade get to OZ asap as they are dying for certain skills over here.

5000 dollars each doesnt gone a long way once you've paid for all of the above. Food is very expensive here, so don't think living costs are cheap. And for those who like a drink its about $9 for a pint of the black stuff and $8 for a vodka and mixer.

I'm still looking for more work, every day online and calling and emailing recruitment agents. Am signed up with 3 agencies and got 2 days temp work...! Hope i find something soon so that things improve and that we can go out and explore this beautiful country

ellaq

I would never recommend anyone buying an unrego'd car over here.

It will always cost money. Even some of the rego'd ones at the lower end of the market can be seriously dodgy. You get a different breed of crap cars here than you will ever see in Ireland, especially in WA where so long as a car is rego'd it never has to go over the pits. My own car has 285000km on it but my other half is a mechanic so the maintenance costs are evened out by the purchase price.