Royal Mail bags used at count centre

schween

The horror. Thankfully this man didn't get elected. Would the Royal Mail bags have affected how you voted?

But the use of the bags has been criticised by Sinn Fein candidate in Galway West, Trevor O Clochartaigh, who said that it should not be necessary to go to the Royal Mail to get post bags.

"It's ridiculous but it is probably reflective of the country at the moment that we have to go to the Royal Mail to get bags. But if they have to use them here then they should have been turned inside out or used in a more discreet manner.

"It's just not appropriate to have bags with the Royal Mail and Great Britain logos so prominently displayed on bags being used in count centres for Dail Eireann elections," said Mr O Clochartaigh, who was eliminated in the ninth count in Galway West.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/elections/latest-news/votes-in-the-bag-the-royal-mail-bag-2560167.html

mikemac

Worked in an office complex and the postmen used to bring in Royal Mail sacks every day.
An Post get the sacks and never give them back

Somewhere there is a Royal Mail manager cursing An Post as a shower of thieves
However, there are probably lots of An Post sacks over in the UK

orourkeda

Theres this new thing called airmail

bmaxi

There are those on these forums who would have us believe SF have moved on from such pettiness. :rolleyes:

c_man

Really?! Ah c'mon, this has got to be some kinda joke.

stephendevlin

Waste of good journalism time. Who gives a flying F.

baldbear

Why don't we just paint the Royal Mail bags Green? The post boxes look nice with the royal marks on them.

Cookie_Monster

shock horror of it all.

Royal mail bags come over here on planes / boats and ours go the other way. so fukcing what. Should we just set them all aside and send them back empty and demand the brits do the same, while buying lots more bags to make up the shortfall...

Ruire

stephendevlin wrote: »

Waste of good journalism time. Who gives a flying F.

A Sinn Féin candidate, that's who.

opinion guy

They're taken our postbags jobs!!!!!!!!!!


Ridiculous.
Who cares ?

Lockstep

As soon as the Royal Mail bags were wheeled out in the Galway count, my friend said he bet Sinn Féin would be complaining over it.
Looks like he was right.

Wolfe Tone

I can see his point, for a supposedly independent country you would think we would use our own bags without pictures of the crown on them to count the votes.

Permabear

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Ruire

Lockstep wrote: »

As soon as the Royal Mail bags were wheeled out in the Galway count, my friend said he bet Sinn Féin would be complaining over it.
Looks like he was right.

It was remarked on several times, I think.

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I can see his point, for a supposedly independent country you would think we would use our own bags without pictures of the crown on them to count the votes.

A supposedly independent country allows you to choose whichever bloody bags you want, based on how well suited they are to the job (Royal Mail bags are apparently better made than our own, why not use them?). The same supposedly independent country lets that fool whinge about them as much as he sees fit.

My name is URL

"It's ridiculous but it is probably reflective of the country at the moment that we have to go to the Royal Mail to get bags."

He should have stopped talking after that bit

mike65

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

I can see his point, for a supposedly independent country you would think we would use our own bags without pictures of the crown on them to count the votes.

Do you Boycott green Royal Mail post boxes that are still in use?

Wolfe Tone

mike65 wrote: »

Do you Boycott green Royal Mail post boxes that are still in use?

No, I blow them up.


Its nothing to get mad over, its just rather strange that you would put votes into a bag with a crown on it considering we had to fight long and hard to get rid of it

mike65

As noted above the postal systems are full of "exchange" bags, now get a life.

opinion guy

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No, I blow them up.


Its nothing to get mad over, its just rather strange that you would put votes into a bag with a crown on it considering we had to fight long and hard to get rid of it

If its cheaper do you really give a f**k ?

Ruire

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

No, I blow them up.


Its nothing to get mad over, its just rather strange that you would put votes into a bag with a crown on it considering we had to fight long and hard to get rid of it

Don't see how it matters; either way, we get to use some pretty epic postal bags.

Maj Malfunction

So are Deutsche Post bags off limits now too? I'm gonna get a carrier pigeon, that will sort the problem out.

Lapin

Surely the shinners could have donated a few bags of their own.

I wouldn't take much to patch over the Northern Bank logos.

Seth Brundle

orourkeda wrote: »

Theres this new thing called airmail

Which email client does airmail work with? It doesn't seem to be available in either Outlook or Gmail

newtoat

Lapin wrote: »

Surely the shinners could have donated a few bags of their own.

I wouldn't take much to patch over the Northern Bank logos.

Ha, they could have got one bag from Dublin Central!

maccored

Lapin wrote: »

Surely the shinners could have donated a few bags of their own.

I wouldn't take much to patch over the Northern Bank logos.

Mi5 and the RUC wouldnt hand them over

Zubeneschamali

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

its just rather strange that you would put votes into a bag with a crown on it considering we had to fight long and hard to get rid of it

Some of us have moved on. A crown on a bag means no more to me than an eye in a pyramid or a guy nailed to a cross.

who the fug

So Sinn Fein not very green then

maccored

who the fug wrote: »

So Sinn Fein not very green then

Does stealing stuff from other governments makes you green? I think the issue being raised is what kind of arse licking cheap ass country are we in here? Ministers drive around in mercs but yet we cant seem to afford our own postal bags.

who the fug

maccored wrote: »

Does stealing stuff from other governments makes you green? I think the issue being raised is what kind of arse licking cheap ass country are we in here? Ministers drive around in mercs but yet we cant seem to afford our own postal bags.

Idiots having a problem recyling something that would otherwise be thrown on the skip because it has a crown on it is the issue. (never stopped anyone using a Lee Enfield did it )

tracking

Was O Clochartaigh bemoaning the failed electronic voting?

Did the invigilators check that none of Ghaddafi's hidden billions were in the botttom of the bags? We could use a few of em right now.

maccored

who the fug wrote: »

Idiots having a problem recyling something that would otherwise be thrown on the skip because it has a crown on it is the issue. (never stopped anyone using a Lee Enfield did it )

And how come it ends up british stuff is in irish skips? Are we such a sly, sneaky country that we nicked them. But - oh! what would europe think ...

tricky D

Permabear wrote: »

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pablomakaveli

Must be part of a british plan to reconquer Ireland.

Step 1: Have Royal Mail bags used in election
Step 2: ?????????????????????????
Step 3: Ireland part of the UK.

maccored

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Must be part of a british plan to reconquer Ireland.

Step 1: Have Royal Mail bags used in election
Step 2: ?????????????????????????
Step 3: Ireland part of the UK.

that could be true. They could be hoping that eventually we'll get confused about what country we're in.

GSF

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Must be part of a british plan to reconquer Ireland.

Step 1: Have Royal Mail bags used in election
Step 2: Start winning at cricket
Step 3: Ireland part of the UK.

SafeSurfer

maccored wrote: »

Does stealing stuff from other governments makes you green? I think the issue being raised is what kind of arse licking cheap ass country are we in here? Ministers drive around in mercs but yet we cant seem to afford our own postal bags.

Mercs are made in Germany. What should ministers drive around in curraghs with wheels? Should the RDS be renamed?

Seth Brundle

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Mercs are made in Germany. What should ministers drive around in curraghs with wheels? Should the RDS be renamed?

I don't care what they drive around in as long as they pay for it!

maccored

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Mercs are made in Germany. What should ministers drive around in curraghs with wheels? Should the RDS be renamed?

nice work on attempting to sidetrack the conversation.

I dont think theres any relation at all whatsoever with the discussion on using royal mail bags at an election, and what kind of car a minister is driven about in. Good luck with where ever you're going with that.

Even though I think its a bit blinkered to be truly worried about Royal mail bags being used - like really, who cares - but there is a point to be made that england certainly wouldnt use an post bags, or germany wouldnt use american mail bags in their elections. other countries - especially in things like elections - have more pride in themselves than that.

Hannibal

A friend of mine works in an Post as a driver and he told me that royal mail bags are used by an Post because royal mail are an Posts biggest customer. He said an Post bags are green or white and are a rarity even out in the big sorting offices and most postmen just turn the royal mail ones inside out. He said he used to deliver to DCU and the fella that takes the post off him in DCU refuses to accept royal mail bags which caused a bit of a stir in the GPO so they send out all of the DCU post in green trays now instead.
So my guess is an Post basically hoard thousands of royal mail bags as a cost saving measure. I think the British taxpayer pay for them to be made by their prisoners

SafeSurfer

maccored wrote: »

nice work on attempting to sidetrack the conversation.

I dont think theres any relation at all whatsoever with the discussion on using royal mail bags at an election, and what kind of car a minister is driven about in. Good luck with where ever you're going with that.

Even though I think its a bit blinkered to be truly worried about Royal mail bags being used - like really, who cares - but there is a point to be made that england certainly wouldnt use an post bags, or germany wouldnt use american mail bags in their elections. other countries - especially in things like elections - have more pride in themselves than that.

I think you will find that you first brought up minister's cars.

You contradict yourself when you say

"its a bit blinkered to be truly worried about the use of Royal mail bags, like really who cares"

Then criticise their use, so you obviously do care about it.

(I note you use capital letters for royal).

dsmythy

I worked in the An Post main sorting centre in Dublin and most of the bags are Royal Mail. Clearly they are pure evil....

(Goes to OP to look at the name of the complainant for future reference)

RandolphEsq

I for one welcome the use of Royal Mail bags. Especially if it means we are on track to rejoin the U.K. in a 'prodigal-son-returning-home' manner

Hannibal

RandolphEsq wrote: »

I for one welcome the use of Royal Mail bags. Especially if it means we are on track to rejoin the U.K. in a 'prodigal-son-returning-home' manner

That will never happen, the UK is on its last legs. Scotland is having a big swing towards nationalism and the north is on course and progressing nicely. But seeing your location is Ballsbridge I could understand why you live in hope

mike65

Never let it be said republicans cannot see a straight faced quip when they read one...Whooosh.

johngalway

I suppose what he said was better than "Boo hoo, damn West Brit Galweigans didn't like me enough to vote me in".

Rabble, rabble, rabble, always a winner with shinners.

Has he protested outside of Tesco, Halfords, Boots, or any of the other British "high street" shops in Galway City I wonder.

Surely they threaten our Independence more by taking our money and sending it back to the mainland, than a few An Post workers robbing a few mail bags which in turn were robbed by the count centre.

bleg

Should we get rid of the royal college of surgeons in Ireland?

mike65

and the Royalist Dublin Society, and the Royalist Architects of Ireland, Royalist Portmarnoc golf club - there's loads of them.

Hannibal

Can we get rid of the chicken royale aswell?

kincsem

I have a few Royal Mail post bags. I bought a lot of second-hand books years ago and they came in those lovely woven sacks. A relative from the west saw one in the boot of my car once and took it as he said it would be ideal for turf.

Perhaps we can get the Queen to bring a few over on her trip.

Just had a search. I have two 24" x 43". MBX 1992 "return to" "Royal Mail international" "renvoyer a" GREAT BRITAIN POST. They are quality.

Sean Seacht

Since 2008, An Post have liberally been using Royal Mail post bags at post offices in Dublin city centre and further afield. It always struck me as really strange but I put it down to the back and forward of post between 'our two great nations.'

However other people have noticed it too and in fact as one example, the Merrion Row post office uses nothing other than Royal Mail post bags all of the time, all year round. It is a busy post office where you drop your post into the (Royal Mail) post bags adjacent to the counter.

Ok so, the excuse goes that it is to do with the back and forward of post between Ireland and the UK and there are probably hundreds of An Post bags in Britain, and I believed that for a while, but it is simply not the case.

Today as I dropped in a few letters at Merrion Row I asked the postman collecting the post what the score was.

As he packed Royal Mail branded post bags into his little green van, he showed me two full bags (branded Royal Mail) in the back of the van filled with yes… a load of empty Royal Mail post bags and he revealed the secret. He said that An Post leased or bought thousands of these bags from Royal Mail and they are constantly in all over Dublin and further afield all of the time.

I know it is a little like 'flag waving' but I ask you, where is the sense of national pride we should expect from An Post. With brand values like that...

People on Boards.ie have also noticed it (since 2008), see the attached link where the first post has there pictures of the offending article.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=56315062

testicle

You have little to be worrying about!