Shannon

Twin-go

Shannon Town is squeezed in between the river on one side and the airport flight path on the other. Its about 6 km long and only 1 km wide. No condusive to a typical community.
Also however, it is only now that the second and third generations of "Shannon" people are coming along. Most of the people in my age group (early 30's) parents came to Shannon from Limerick, Ennis, Newmarket on Fergus, Sixmilebridge and further afeild from places like Derry and Belfast.

I had great times growing up here. In the late teens early 20's it did seem like a boring place as I did a lot of traveling in the US, Europe and Austrailia.

but as I settled down I begain to appreciate the place again for what it is. A quite residential town with lovely river walks, with sports teams of all codes and above all a safe place to raise kids. An it's still only 10 minutes from Limerick for Munster games/night life and only 30 minutes to the atlantic coast. What more could you want?

Berty

I like Shannon because it looks so weird. You'd think you were "out foreign". The houses are built like other countries really. They built the roads and then the houses followed unlike our normal "estates".

Concrete roads mostly. The place is mad. When they recently modernised the school it took the soviet look off the place.

It was originally built by Americans to emulate an American town because they wanted all the American companies to set up in the Shannon free Zone. That's what I thought.

Melion

I have to laugh at people saying Shannon is a good place to raise kids. It used to be when i was being raised(Im 27), i dont want my daughter anywhere near the place when she is older other than to visit my family. The town is gone to shít over the last 10 years and it will only get worse when the 15-16 yr old scumbags produce their own offspring.

Twin-go

Melion wrote: »

I have to laugh at people saying Shannon is a good place to raise kids. It used to be when i was being raised(Im 27), i dont want my daughter anywhere near the place when she is older other than to visit my family. The town is gone to shít over the last 10 years and it will only get worse when the 15-16 yr old scumbags produce their own offspring.

Mel, there is more reasons to why a place is good to raise kids than the scumbag elliment. Certain areas have become more scummy but thats just a town maturing. The town is also about a third bigger than it was 20 years ago. For a town of its size the scumbag % is low. It also depends what part of the town you are in.

phill106

Not sure why this is in the limerick forum...
Nice to see that everyone thinks every house in shannon is the same...
I have lived in shannon over half my life and think its a great place to live. Those comments about call of duty or dangerous areas are unwarranted.
Shannon is very safe, the robbery of a shop a few times last year was BIG news, and they caught the person that did it.
I can only remember one murder about 15-20 years ago (man killed partner/wife, cant recall specifics) and there is still a maintained memorial on the path where it happened.
The sketch videos that the rubberbandits etc use are the flats in drumgeely was built in the 60s, and is mostly lived in by students (lived there myself, very mouldy!)
As for shannon being unplanned, it was planned, just badly!
I think it is a great, safe place to live, as stated very close to limerick and ennis. It does need more facilities though, stuff to do of an evening, but I would definitely recommend it.

Melion

phill106 wrote: »

Not sure why this is in the limerick forum...
Nice to see that everyone thinks every house in shannon is the same...
I have lived in shannon over half my life and think its a great place to live. Those comments about call of duty or dangerous areas are unwarranted.
Shannon is very safe, the robbery of a shop a few times last year was BIG news, and they caught the person that did it.
I can only remember one murder about 15-20 years ago (man killed partner/wife, cant recall specifics) and there is still a maintained memorial on the path where it happened.
The sketch videos that the rubberbandits etc use are the flats in drumgeely was built in the 60s, and is mostly lived in by students (lived there myself, very mouldy!)
As for shannon being unplanned, it was planned, just badly!
I think it is a great, safe place to live, as stated very close to limerick and ennis. It does need more facilities though, stuff to do of an evening, but I would definitely recommend it.

I lived there until i was 25, its not a great place to live. It was when i was younger because we could entertain ourselves with a football or a bike. There is nothing to do for kids there nowadays. You mentioned A shop being robbed last year, what about the countless houses and cars that were robbed? That murder was in 2001, not 15-20 years ago, i worked with the girl and due to where she worked, she was very well known in the town.

Melion

Twin-go wrote: »

Mel, there is more reasons to why a place is good to raise kids than the scumbag elliment. Certain areas have become more scummy but thats just a town maturing. The town is also about a third bigger than it was 20 years ago. For a town of its size the scumbag % is low. It also depends what part of the town you are in.

Honestly though Mark, would you like to raise a child out there? Having him/her going to school with the offspring of some of the upstanding members of society out there? You cant blame the schools out there because they cant realistically turn down students. I definitely wouldnt want Caoimhe going to school out there having to put up with little scumbag children in her class disrupting it constantly. Its going on in my Godsons class at the minute, a 6yr old child has the run of the entire class, all the teachers and principal have no idea how to control him so just let him get away with whatever he wants.

I think every area in the town has become a lot scummier. Have you noticed the pyjama brigade have extended from O'Connell St in town to Shannon?

phill106

Melion wrote: »

I lived there until i was 25, its not a great place to live. It was when i was younger because we could entertain ourselves with a football or a bike. There is nothing to do for kids there nowadays. You mentioned A shop being robbed last year, what about the countless houses and cars that were robbed? That murder was in 2001, not 15-20 years ago, i worked with the girl and due to where she worked, she was very well known in the town.

Sorry was 10 years then, not 15 years ago, my bad. Still along time ago compared to limerick. Again countless houses are broken into in limerick and cars stolen again from limerick.
Friend of mine caught someone breaking into his car in shannon, and tell you what, the kid was from limerick.
I would certainly rate it as safer then limerick.

Melion

Since it was closed in the Limerick forum(understandably).

Opinions on this once nice, quiet town?

Keano

Shannon now is so different to Shannon when I was growing up. Obviously, so much more houses but Clare county council and the Shannon town council failed the people of Shannon. They just let developers put housing every where and never for once thought of the young people or the future.

Lady Chatterton

I get a sense that a lot of people (Clare, Limerick and North Tipp) owe their living to Shannon but they give very little back to the place. Some of my family and friends have worked in Shannon down through the years but apart from buying some petrol and a few sandwiches they wouldn't have contributed to the town or its economy. Maybe I'm wrong? Is Shannon Town Council and the Chamber of Commerce doing enough draw people into the area?

pappyodaniel

Keano A Legend wrote: »

Shannon now is so different to Shannon when I was growing up. Obviously, so much more houses but Clare county council and the Shannon town council failed the people of Shannon. They just let developers put housing every where and never for once thought of the young people or the future.

I don't think Shannon got hit with the building boom like other towns and villages in the county, mainly due to off-kilter zoning regulations. If you drew a line across Shannon (by the town centre) and separated it into 2 halves, naming on one side Tullyglass and the other Tullyvarraga, the only new developments you would have on the Tullyglass side would be the Bru na Sionna complex and the as yet unfinished new social housing behind Cluain Airne. Now the Tullyvarraga side has made up for this lack of, with estates like Cluainin, Cul na Greine, Radharc na Coille, DunAras and a host of places in Ballycasey.

Of these new estates, only 1 would be noted for having social problems... Cul na Greine. This is mainly due to it being a council run estate with a scattering of affordable houses.

Insect Overlord

Mod note: I've moved 8 posts over from the original thread in the Limerick City Forum.

shannon_tek

I do love Shannon. I dont know why. Never lived there but live with in driving distance. can see the Airport from my house . . . with binoculars . . . on a hill . . up a tree(ish). Guess its as iv grown up i spent most my time down there. It was the first place i entered Ireland and hopefully with be the last place i leave. Many people i know dont like Shannon. Cant see why not. may be small bit rough but sure is not everywhere the same. I do love the airport. but its just all the roads you can go down and in behind. and the industrial estate. i always feel its a maze. just put the boot down and fly(not in the air) anywhere. and enjoy the open landscape. Thats what id say it is i love about shannon. Its nice and small but not shaded by mountain or cities. Its perfect in its own way. Has its own airport, City not far.

Twin-go

Melion wrote: »

Honestly though Mark, would you like to raise a child out there? Having him/her going to school with the offspring of some of the upstanding members of society out there? You cant blame the schools out there because they cant realistically turn down students. I definitely wouldnt want Caoimhe going to school out there having to put up with little scumbag children in her class disrupting it constantly. Its going on in my Godsons class at the minute, a 6yr old child has the run of the entire class, all the teachers and principal have no idea how to control him so just let him get away with whatever he wants.

I think every area in the town has become a lot scummier. Have you noticed the pyjama brigade have extended from O'Connell St in town to Shannon?

I hear you Mel, but name a town of it's size in Ireland that has less issues.

You say there is on 6 year old that has the run of the class. In other towns there could be 3/4 that have the run of the place. I know a primary school teacher up in sligo that has 12/25 pupils that have the run of the class.

I'm not saying Shannon does not have issues, of course it does. and being a good father has highened your awareness of these problems, But, it still alot safer than most comparitive towns in Ireland.

Kasabian

Shannon, where do I start. A town built to provide housing for the workers in the Airport and Industrial Estate.

The town itself is just a big housing estate with an excuse for a town centre thrown up in the middle of it. A town centre dominated by the "landmark" that is the Sisk built Shannon Knights, a cartel in every sense of the word.

The only town in Ireland that doesn't have a main street afaik. You drive in and turn around to drive out again.

It has it's sports clubs, they cater for some of the population, the rest can find their own entertainment. Where? Outside the town, head to Limerick or Ennis or up the coast, but don't look to have somthing to do unless you fancy a night in the pubs all 5 them and one of them is a GAA club, one is like a sense from deliverance, one is a hotel and the other is the entertainment cartel.

Fancy a night at the movies, Ennis or Limerick are your closet options, ditto with bowling. God forbid these amenities would be provided!!

The people, generally decent but very clanish, different areas different attitudes.

The problems, not as bad as some other equally sized towns, I wonder why and how long this will last, we already have had people "immigrate" from areas of Limerick because noone wanted them there.
This will increase if and when the social housing scheme by Cluain Airne is finished. Another ghetto in the making.

Currently the town is awash with drugs, will this get worse, I think so.

Rineanna Park, remember that amenity, now covered in flats.

Shannon the new town time forgot.

dr.fuzzenstein

Keano A Legend wrote: »

Shannon now is so different to Shannon when I was growing up. Obviously, so much more houses but Clare county council and the Shannon town council failed the people of Shannon. They just let developers put housing every where and never for once thought of the young people or the future.

You have just described Ireland.
Houses, houses, houses, houses, houses and more houses.
As for sports pitches and playgrounds, they where sold off and levelled to build more houses.
All Ireland has to show for the Celtic Tiger is a massive bill courtesy of the banks and Bertie and houses, houses, houses, houses, a lot of them unfinished and empty.
It is sad beyond belief and now where is the money to build sports pitches, parks, pools, leisure centres, etc...?
Not gonna happen.

counterlock

Kasabian has said it perfectly. I've been living here for almost a year now, great place to live if you are a budding alcoholic or professional gambler. There is no (decent) bookshop and you can expect to pay more for everything compared with Limerick or Ennis.

My advice to anyone moving here is get sky sports and sky movies and buy plenty of electric heaters (they never heard of insulating!?)

Melion

counterlock wrote: »

Kasabian has said it perfectly. I've been living here for almost a year now, great place to live if you are a budding alcoholic or professional gambler. There is no (decent) bookshop and you can expect to pay more for everything compared with Limerick or Ennis.

My advice to anyone moving here is get sky sports and sky movies and buy plenty of electric heaters (they never heard of insulating!?)

Whereabouts in Shannon are you living? There are plenty of houses in Shannon that are too hot if anything

el dude

It all kicked off in Cul na Greine very the weekend, couple arrested, neighbours getting their heads kicked in, blood everywhere. No prizes for guessing the family at the centre of it. It's an absolute disgrace that homes are given to these knackers who only go on and make the lives of those around them an absolute misery. Seems to be something that's happening more and more frequently too, in parks where there was never any trouble previously too. Place is going to be in ruin in another ten years or so, another Limerick suburb filled with wrong 'uns. Get out while you can.

phill106

el dude wrote: »

It all kicked off in Cul na Greine very the weekend, couple arrested, neighbours getting their heads kicked in, blood everywhere. No prizes for guessing the family at the centre of it. It's an absolute disgrace that homes are given to these knackers who only go on and make the lives of those around them an absolute misery. Seems to be something that's happening more and more frequently too, in parks where there was never any trouble previously too. Place is going to be in ruin in another ten years or so, another Limerick suburb filled with wrong 'uns. Get out while you can.

is that in the circle/inner part of cul na greine?

Refugee from RealLife

It's time to ask the lads to come out of retirement. They wouldn't be long putting these cnuts out of the town.

el dude

Is it true that they're going to be moving the Limerick scum into those houses being built next to Cluain Airne? That'll be the last straw for me, and it's an absolute joke that these scumbags keep on getting new homes, and new communities to wreak their havoc in.

mikemac

How does this happen?

Tipperary and Clare have their own housing lists but Newport and Shannon take tenants from Limerick
And Limerick county take tenants from the city

If there queue jumping going on and locals getting skipped?

Would be a decent article for a journalist

gufnork

Shannon used to be a nice place to live. But having had a stolen car put through our front wall in an effort to destroy our home we certainly don't find it safe. I am in my late 30's and grew up here when it was a nice town. Shannon is a victim of Limerick gangsters and regeneration. This is what happens when good people stand up to vermin. Now a town of see nothing hear nothing neighbours!

pappyodaniel

gufnork wrote: »

Shannon used to be a nice place to live. But having had a stolen car put through our front wall in an effort to destroy our home we certainly don't find it safe. I am in my late 30's and grew up here when it was a nice town. Shannon is a victim of Limerick gangsters and regeneration. This is what happens when good people stand up to vermin. Now a town of see nothing hear nothing neighbours!

Tradaree? I heard something about this. That's absolutely mental. Can you tell us what happened leading up to the incident?

gufnork

pappyodaniel wrote: »

Tradaree? I heard something about this. That's absolutely mental. Can you tell us what happened leading up to the incident?

We were subjected to 2 years of abuse,death threats, intimidation and the noise of living next door to these people was so bad that it was 9 months after they moved in before we got an unbroken nights sleep(she was away for wkend,he was in jail again!) Their landlord swore blind they were great tenants and vouched for them before private residential tenancy board when we tried to have them evicted. 2 days after they left the property a male and female threw bricks at our front window in broad daylight 2 days after they'd left no 6 tradaree court. 10 days later a fireman's car was stolen and driven at speed at our house. If we hadn't had a strong tree in our garden the car would have been in our living room as intended. They were run out of Limerick and she has 2 uncles serving life for murder, 1 shot dead for being a gangland scumbag and they've moved to Cluain Airne now.

celliman

wow,i had a look on passing,that tree deffo saved ye from having a car in your front room.Hopefully they will leave ye alone now.God help there new neighbours.

gufnork

celliman wrote: »

wow,i had a look on passing,that tree deffo saved ye from having a car in your front room.Hopefully they will leave ye alone now.God help there new neighbours.

We hope they leave us alone too but we doubt it. They seem more determined than ever. I hope their new neighbours have better neighbours than we do. Not 1 of our neighbours has knocked our door to ask if we're ok or even acknowledged that anything happened at all. I understand that people are frightened but it's the majority of neighbours doing nothing that lets these people get away with it. The neighbours in Fergus road got together and ran them out of there a few years ago. Likewise Kincora flats and Aidan park. She has family in Purcell park, Rineanna view, Cronan Lawn and Finian park. All being housed and paid for by the taxpayer. Limerick's loss has not been Shannon's gain.

top madra

Shannon is a dump and anybody that thinks differently is deluded

/thread

gufnork

counterlock wrote: »

Kasabian has said it perfectly. I've been living here for almost a year now, great place to live if you are a budding alcoholic or professional gambler. There is no (decent) bookshop and you can expect to pay more for everything compared with Limerick or Ennis.

My advice to anyone moving here is get sky sports and sky movies and buy plenty of electric heaters (they never heard of insulating!?)

Second Chance Animal Rescue charity shop at 26 Delginish has any 8 paperbacks for a fiver and hardbacks at 2 euro each. Worth checking them out and all the money goes to the animals the charity cares for in Clare and shannon.

Melion

Those scumbags have now moved in across the road from my grandparents in Cluain Airne. <snip>

top madra

top madra wrote: »

Shannon is a dump and anybody that thinks differently is deluded

/thread

I just got a infraction for this post....so let me clarify this..

I do sub-contract work for the council,mostly in shannon ( i dont want to go into what i do )

The houses i have worked in down there are no joke...

People wreck them and then expect the council to refurb them with the best of everything..

I haven't came across anywhere else as bad in all of Clare..

Open the Clare People every week the court report is full of Shannon.

Their is nothing to do there but drink and do drugs in peoples Gaffs or maybe go to Darcys or that other ****hole in the middle of the housing estate..

Did i insult some of ye by my previous post?

Or was it a case again of a mod throwing their weight around when it was uncalled for..

Boards.ie ( the one place you can't have a opinion unless a mod likes it )

Ib4 ban...

gufnork

Melion wrote: »

Those scumbags have now moved in across the road from my grandparents in Cluain Airne.

I can't name them for fear of damaging any future legal action we may need to take. But if you google "aggravated burglary in sixmilebridge" you'll find an article naming this LADYS father and brother both pleading guilty to holding a woman and her children hostage with a sawn off shotgun last year. Daddy dearest due for sentencing next January not sure when the brother being sentenced, hopefully they'll both be caged for a few years. Madam is very proud of her family too! Also daddy dearest and brother of the year both frequent vistors to the house. Our advice would be to keep a log of events. If and when problems arise send a registered letter to the landlord giving dates and times and details of whats been going on so you can prove you contacted him. Then you can take a case to the Private Residential Tenancies Board. They are the only people who can legally get them out and force the landlord to act. We put a lock on our oil tank after finding 1 of them on our tank with a diesel syphon your grandparents might consider doing the same.

gufnork

gufnork wrote: »

I can't name them for fear of damaging any future legal action we may need to take. But if you google "aggravated burglary in sixmilebridge" you'll find an article naming this LADYS father and brother both pleading guilty to holding a woman and her children hostage with a sawn off shotgun last year. Daddy dearest due for sentencing next January not sure when the brother being sentenced, hopefully they'll both be caged for a few years. Madam is very proud of her family too! Also daddy dearest and brother of the year both frequent vistors to the house. Our advice would be to keep a log of events. If and when problems arise send a registered letter to the landlord giving dates and times and details of whats been going on so you can prove you contacted him. Then you can take a case to the Private Residential Tenancies Board. They are the only people who can legally get them out and force the landlord to act. We put a lock on our oil tank after finding 1 of them on our tank with a diesel syphon your grandparents might consider doing the same.

Sorry I should have been more specific. "Trio to appear in court in relation to Sixmilebridge kidnapping" is more accurate. Last weeks Clare people had an article on the father pleading guilty.

Clareman

Folks,

This is a very emotive subject with people very closely affected by the actions of a few, boards however isn't the place to vent, it's not the case of having the same opinion as mods, it's about being able to discuss in a manner that will not lead to ramifications to either the poster or boards.

If you have an issue with an infraction, you can follow the Dispute process.

I will leave the thread open for now, but if I feel that we can't have a civilized discussion I will lock the thread.

LadyTBolt

top madra wrote: »

I do sub-contract work for the council,mostly in shannon ( i dont want to go into what i do )

The houses i have worked in down there are no joke...

People wreck them and then expect the council to refurb them with the best of everything..

You do sub-contractor work for council houses in Shannon and you have the nerve to say the tenants wreck them and expect the council to refurb them - you have some nerve.

I used to rent a Shannon county council house. Due to the rent assessed on income and I had a good income I was paying more in rent than what many of my friends were paying on their mortgage and I had the most unprofessional sub-contractors enter my HOME and treat it and me like scum all because I was a council tenant.

Here are a couple of examples of my encounters with said sub-contractors, there are many more. I'm not implying this was you by any means but a sub-contractor used by the council.....

One day sub-contractors called to do some wood work in the attic.
They brought dirty wood through my home as they had to cover some tank in the attic. They cut the wood upstairs on the landing and used my laundry basket as a bench. The entire contents of the laundry basket had to be thrown out because all of the clothes were destroyed from sawdust. Were my clothes replaced - NO!
Also, I later discovered the dirty wood they used contaminated the attic with woodworm. I had to pay for the wood to be treated, not the council or the sub-contractors. The treatment company who treated the wood identified the wood brought in by the sub-contractors as the wood which contaminated the joyces in the attic and advised there was no way the wood used was purchased from a reputable merchant.

Another day the house required a new circuit board and a sub-contractor from the council came to fit it.
On St. Stephens' day the new circuit board went up on fire in the afternoon. As the circuit board is at the end of my stairs, if the fire happened during the night instead of the afternoon my family would have not been able to escape through downstairs. I got the ESB to come and examine the board. I later discovered the switch used for the shower which overheated and caused the fire (I was having a shower at the time) was the incorrect switch and the ESB advisor told me the person who fitted the switch would have known this as they forced it in as it really didn't fit. Not alone that, other parts of the circuit board fittings were not up to ESB standard regulation. The box was fitted not long before the fire. Who paid for the upgrade of the box, ME!

The above mentioned examples are just a few instances of the standards provided to me by sub-contractors while renting a council house.

So before you start knocking the people in Shannon who rent council houses have a long look at the sub-contractors who are hired to refurb them. I can see how some people would not accept what I have accepted and could go to alternative lengths to have better standards provided.

Sorry for the rant and off topic post but people in glass houses should not throw stones

wiger toods

Lived in 'little belfast' for a year when i was 19. Grand, quite place. People are sound. Cant complain. Knights on a saturday night was great craic, followed by supermacs! Happy memories:D

Insect Overlord

LadyTBolt wrote: »

You are a sub-contractor...

Mod Note: LadyT, top madra has been given a short ban from the forum, so he won't be able to reply to your post until next week. With that in mind, you may or may not want to edit it a bit. The choice is entirely yours.

MarkR

Shannon is no different than any other small town. You get nice areas, and some not so nice areas. And in both cases you'll get inconsiderate assholes. Doesn't matter whether it's tradaree or tralee, odds are, you won't like everyone, and not everyone will like you. No need to make sweeping generalisations, it's the sign of a poorly thought out argument.

That comment about people renting from the council is patently ridiculous of course. My mother lives in a council house, and I used to live there. We rarely had drug fuelled satanic scientology antisemite raves in our house. And when we did, tidied up afterwards. *



*Do I really have to say this isn't true? Probably. We were perfectly normal, like most of the people I know.

gufnork

MarkR wrote: »

Shannon is no different than any other small town. You get nice areas, and some not so nice areas. And in both cases you'll get inconsiderate assholes. Doesn't matter whether it's tradaree or tralee, odds are, you won't like everyone, and not everyone will like you. No need to make sweeping generalisations, it's the sign of a poorly thought out argument.

That comment about people renting from the council is patently ridiculous of course. My mother lives in a council house, and I used to live there. We rarely had drug fuelled satanic scientology antisemite raves in our house. And when we did, tidied up afterwards. *



*Do I really have to say this isn't true? Probably. We were perfectly normal, like most of the people I know.[/QU

Anti-social behaviour is a huge problem in Shannon. It's just being kept very quiet. I was in Shannon Garda station last week listening to a mother arguing that her 12 year old son, who had been arrested for putting fireworks in someones letterbox, should be given his tobbacco back! I don't believe in judging anybody based on whether they live in council or privately rented or mortgaged homes. The problem is attitude. Shannon is a relatively small town made up of relatively small housing estates. It cannot afford to take in the amount of problem famillies being relocated from Limerick. I have no bias against Limerick people. Unfortunately the majority of people being rehoused from Limerick are problematic. Ask a guard and they'll tell you that our councillors are signing off on these people coming into the town and county. Limerick County council pay Clare County council to take them. Our own councillors then pay lip service to people affected by anti-social behaviour and pass the buck on the matter. The reality is that there are good people and bad people and Shannon is receiving disproportionately more of the latter than we can cope with. If people don't wake up to the problem we're going to find ourselves living in a mini Moyross.

busymom31

gufnork wrote: »

MarkR wrote: »

Shannon is no different than any other small town. You get nice areas, and some not so nice areas. And in both cases you'll get inconsiderate assholes. Doesn't matter whether it's tradaree or tralee, odds are, you won't like everyone, and not everyone will like you. No need to make sweeping generalisations, it's the sign of a poorly thought out argument.

That comment about people renting from the council is patently ridiculous of course. My mother lives in a council house, and I used to live there. We rarely had drug fuelled satanic scientology antisemite raves in our house. And when we did, tidied up afterwards. *



*Do I really have to say this isn't true? Probably. We were perfectly normal, like most of the people I know.[/QU

Anti-social behaviour is a huge problem in Shannon. It's just being kept very quiet. I was in Shannon Garda station last week listening to a mother arguing that her 12 year old son, who had been arrested for putting fireworks in someones letterbox, should be given his tobbacco back! I don't believe in judging anybody based on whether they live in council or privately rented or mortgaged homes. The problem is attitude. Shannon is a relatively small town made up of relatively small housing estates. It cannot afford to take in the amount of problem famillies being relocated from Limerick. I have no bias against Limerick people. Unfortunately the majority of people being rehoused from Limerick are problematic. Ask a guard and they'll tell you that our councillors are signing off on these people coming into the town and county. Limerick County council pay Clare County council to take them. Our own councillors then pay lip service to people affected by anti-social behaviour and pass the buck on the matter. The reality is that there are good people and bad people and Shannon is receiving disproportionately more of the latter than we can cope with. If people don't wake up to the problem we're going to find ourselves living in a mini Moyross.

i dont think the anti social issues that are in shannon are any different from towns up and down the country. Shannon is very lacking in a lot of things and we should look to many smallers towns and try to learn some sense of community. there will always be a few that will destroy an area.

I hope your life improves now that 'Lady' and her family have moved away from next door to you. I had my house broken into by these scum i know it was them for reasons i wont go into on here. needless to say nothing was done...

top madra

LadyTBolt wrote: »

You do sub-contractor work for council houses in Shannon and you have the nerve to say the tenants wreck them and expect the council to refurb them - you have some nerve.

Well they do and I'll stand over what I said..

LadyTBolt wrote: »

I used to rent a Shannon county council house. Due to the rent assessed on income and I had a good income I was paying more in rent than what many of my friends were paying on their mortgage and I had the most unprofessional sub-contractors enter my HOME and treat it and me like scum all because I was a council tenant.

Then you should have complained and not let them in your house.

LadyTBolt wrote: »

Here are a couple of examples of my encounters with said sub-contractors, there are many more. I'm not implying this was you by any means but a sub-contractor used by the council.....

One day sub-contractors called to do some wood work in the attic.
They brought dirty wood through my home as they had to cover some tank in the attic. They cut the wood upstairs on the landing and used my laundry basket as a bench. The entire contents of the laundry basket had to be thrown out because all of the clothes were destroyed from sawdust. Were my clothes replaced - NO!
Also, I later discovered the dirty wood they used contaminated the attic with woodworm. I had to pay for the wood to be treated, not the council or the sub-contractors. The treatment company who treated the wood identified the wood brought in by the sub-contractors as the wood which contaminated the joyces in the attic and advised there was no way the wood used was purchased from a reputable merchant.

Again, why didn't you complain and go to the council with receipts of money you spent getting the work redone, I know that's what I would do.

I can't answer for other contractors because their is cowboys out there but if you don't complain they will be always there, cutting wood on your clothes basket is wrong and I don't condone it..

But you not have washed the clothes rather than throw them out?

LadyTBolt wrote: »

Another day the house required a new circuit board and a sub-contractor from the council came to fit it.
On St. Stephens' day the new circuit board went up on fire in the afternoon. As the circuit board is at the end of my stairs, if the fire happened during the night instead of the afternoon my family would have not been able to escape through downstairs. I got the ESB to come and examine the board. I later discovered the switch used for the shower which overheated and caused the fire (I was having a shower at the time) was the incorrect switch and the ESB advisor told me the person who fitted the switch would have known this as they forced it in as it really didn't fit. Not alone that, other parts of the circuit board fittings were not up to ESB standard regulation. The box was fitted not long before the fire. Who paid for the upgrade of the box, ME!

I find this really hard to believe, for one reason only, that if somebody did this in my house I would not be paying for it myself, I really find it hard to believe that you were ignored again by the council when I've see them bend over backwards for tenants

You really should think about contacting a solicitor to reclaim all that money you spent..

LadyTBolt wrote: »

So before you start knocking the people in Shannon who rent council houses have a long look at the sub-contractors who are hired to refurb them. I can see how some people would not accept what I have accepted and could go to alternative lengths to have better standards provided.

Now let me tell you some things from what I've seen

People being given houses with the best of new stuff in them

One family had a house that I wouldn't let my dog sleep in and they got
a new kitchen
fire proof doors
tiled kitchen/bathroom/hallway
new fireplace and new stove in kitchen
house insulated walls/attic
oil heating and new rads
house painted inside and out
new frames and skirting

nearly a new house

6 weeks later I had to go back to replace 3 doors and they had peoples name scratched into the bedroom walls..

Animals, the houses they are getting are too good for them and they have no respect for them when they get all that for nothing..

That is only one example, but this is after all a public forum and I have a business to run..

Take care.

Clareman

Right, I've had enough of this thread and it seems to be just descending into a slagging match about council estates, I realise that there are multiple POV for every situation and there are exceptions to almost everything (even exceptions), I'm going to lock this thread.

If you want to have a thread about Shannon, please open a thread to discuss the town, personally I think it's a great example of a new town in a new country and I enjoyed almost every day of my 8 years working there. If you want to discuss council estates, find another forum. If you want to discuss shoddy workmen, again, find another forum.