Cadetship 2011 Launched today

Yitzhak Rabin

There are 30 places this year.

Applications online here.

I'll update if I hear more.

delta720

Finally I get to apply!

I wonder what the breakdown of places will be like.

Air Corps application from me anyway.

concussion

20 - 5 - 5 would be a rough approximation I reckon.

Cryos

For those looking to apply, have a look at :

http://www.military.ie/careers/booklets/11-02-25%20(Feb)%20Cadet%20Booklet%202011.pdf

Be aware of the requirements both physical and educational before applying. On the fitness be prepared and push yourself to meet them before attending the test (i.e dont be unprepared and chance it on the day).

Best of luck to anyone going for it!

BigDuffman

Some chap dropped off current class "I didn't realize we wouldn't be working 9-5 once we pass out".

Also, people showing up for fitness test that could not belt out 10 press ups!

pablomakaveli

I applied for the last competition but i'm unsure whether to go for this one or not. I've applied to the British army and have done my barb and job skills test a few weeks ago but was told i could be waiting 6-9 months and i'd still have to pass interviews and fitness tests. At least if i go for the cadets i'd have the advantage of having applied before and if i manage to get it i could be in sooner than 6-9 months.

On the other hand i'm not sure i want to stay in the country anymore and given there was a lot of competition for places last time, there'll probably be a couple of thousand apply again and it'll be pretty difficult to get it.

I might have to think about it for a while.

osullic

Just put in my application for the Air Corps Cadetship.

Tubsandtiles

Best of luck to everyone, it's going to be tough .

mhorda

Application sent in, Ill keep at them till they let me in

shanec1928

sent in, only 17 so unlikely this time.have my forms processed and on the waiting list for rdf so at least ill have something.

Daniel S

What are the chances of getting in? 1000:1?

pablomakaveli

mtb_kng wrote: »

What are the chances of getting in? 1000:1?

Going by the competition last year there was around 1500 applicants i think for 21 places. I'd bet there'll be more applicants this time though.

20 Times 20 Times

Applied for an army cadet ship , already have a level 8 degree in accounting and finance ( come may ) aged 26 leadership skills etc , I have one question though what is the money like ??

delta720

Sarge wrote: »

Applied for an army cadet ship , already have a level 8 degree in accounting and finance ( come may ) aged 26 leadership skills etc , I have one question though what is the money like ??

It's all in part two of the handbook, found here: http://military.ie/careers/officer/index.htm

Includes 10% reduction on all new public servants.

Stage two of the recruitment is at an interesting time for those doing college exams in late April/early May!

20 Times 20 Times

Yeah I was thinking the same , There is no way that i could take any time off Uni to go for assessment while studying for my final accounting exams .

Silent Runner

Since there is such limited places, why don't they raise the fitness standards to say about 50 press/sits or more and a faster run. I know that fitnes isn't every thing but wouldn't it just get people who are a bit more serrious about it?

OS119

Silent Runner wrote: »

Since there is such limited places, why don't they raise the fitness standards to say about 50 press/sits or more and a faster run. I know that fitnes isn't every thing but wouldn't it just get people who are a bit more serrious about it?

low published fitness requirements are a test in themselves, its a good way of seeing who is prepared to 'coast' over the limits, and who is going to give it absolutely everything even though they are well inside the limit anyway.

attitude is much harder to train than merely the ability to run fast or carry weight - so they're looking for people who have the attitude to begin with.

pablomakaveli

I've put in my application anyway for the Army Cadetship. I saw an ad in the paper today for an aptitude test preparation course thats taking place in Dublin a few days before the actual aptitude test. I don't think they ran anything like that last year.

paky

whens the closing date?

Sugar Free

pablomakaveli wrote: »

I've put in my application anyway for the Army Cadetship. I saw an ad in the paper today for an aptitude test preparation course thats taking place in Dublin a few days before the actual aptitude test. I don't think they ran anything like that last year.

If it's KC Training then I can recommend them, they're very good. The course last year was 150E but worth it if they're applying the same weighting to the aptitude tests.

pablomakaveli

Sugar Free wrote: »

If it's KC Training then I can recommend them, they're very good. The course last year was 150E but worth it if they're applying the same weighting to the aptitude tests.

The details are on this site if anyones interested.

www.testpreparation.ie

It's €195 for the course though so that combined with having to pay to travel to dublin means i won't be doing it. I was able to pass the aptitude test last time though so hopefully i will be able to again if i do it.

oldspice

Hi, Im just wondering if someone could help me with a few questions I have. I applied for the army cadetship today im 19 year old college student and this is my first time applying so im not expecting to get in on first attempt but would love to all the same, Im curious about what the aptitude test consist of as in what are the type of the questions you would be asked? Also I was thinking of going to a preparation course but its on the 2nd of April, will the aptitude test be before that does anyone know, I know the closing date for the competition is the 20th of this month, so does anyone have any idea ( at all ) as to when the aptitude test would be?? Thanks in advance... Oldspice !!

Oisinjm

I'm only in sixth year but I'm guessing from what I read in the handbook that I can't apply as I haven't completed my second level education. Am I right yeah?

odin_ie

If you are going to be completing the leaving cert this year, then you can apply.

mhorda

oldspice wrote: »

Hi, Im just wondering if someone could help me with a few questions I have. I applied for the army cadetship today im 19 year old college student and this is my first time applying so im not expecting to get in on first attempt but would love to all the same, Im curious about what the aptitude test consist of as in what are the type of the questions you would be asked? Also I was thinking of going to a preparation course but its on the 2nd of April, will the aptitude test be before that does anyone know, I know the closing date for the competition is the 20th of this month, so does anyone have any idea ( at all ) as to when the aptitude test would be?? Thanks in advance... Oldspice !!

Theres a verbal reasoning section, in which you read passages and pick the correct answer etc ( you can get books in waterstones for this )

numeric reasoning is next..again there are loads of little sections all on the page and you have to find the one relating to your question and work out the answer..this part is tricky...bring calculator and be sure you know how to use it

third part is the job analysis...they give you a situation and you have to pick the answer most applicable to you..I.e

you are walking back to your billet and you are going by the NCO's billet.You know you are not allowed to walk along the corridor ajoining the officers and NCO's billets but it was raining so you took a chance. in a bin you see a copy of the test for tomorrows big exam that is worth 50%, do you...

a) take test for yourself and tell no one

b) report to NCOs that the test is there, but dont read it even though you know you will get into trouble for being on the NCO corridor

C) read through the test, put it back and go back and tell all the lads the major topics

D) keep walking and say nothing, you dont want to get into trouble


something like that came up a few years ago...then you pick the answer that you would do..theres no right or wrong..all answers have some marks..some just have more than others


I think the aptitude tests are in april...think it says so in the manual

oldspice

Oh okay thats grand thanks

rallye150flyer

i made it to the last 90 for the air corps last time around from 500 so going for it again i heard from a good source that they are taking on three air corps cadets same as last time

Yitzhak Rabin

rallye150flyer wrote: »

i made it to the last 90 for the air corps last time around from 500 so going for it again i heard from a good source that they are taking on three air corps cadets same as last time

I heard an unconfirmed rumour from a colleague that it is 6 flyboys this year.

rallye150flyer

yekahS wrote: »

I heard an unconfirmed rumour from a colleague that it is 6 flyboys this year.

it would be great if that did turn out to be true no matter what, its going to be difficult to get in

osullic

Can you apply for all three cadetships??

rallye150flyer

yes you can apply for them all

osullic

Anyone else get an email like this today?

Dear osullic,

Thank you for you application for Army Cadetship 2011. The following is the new timetable for the remainder of the Competition.

Stage 1: Psychometric Testing - 27th of Apr in Croke Park, Dublin. All candidates who meet the minimum qualifying criteria for this years competition will be called for this stage. The Criteria are found at http://www.military.ie/careers/booklets/11-02-25%20(Feb)%20Cadet%20Booklet%202011.pdf

Stage 2: Group Assessment & Fitness Testing - 27th of June to 01st of July in the Curragh Camp, Co. Kildare. Candidates will be required to spend one night in the Curragh Camp during this phase. The top 300 Candidates from Stage 1 will be invited to attend this stage.

Stage 3: Interview - 04th of July to 29th of July in the Curragh Camp, Co. Kildare. The top one hundred and five candidates from stage 2 will be called to this stage.

Stage 4: Medical - 01st of August to 05th of August in St. Bricin's Hospital, Dublin. The top thirty five candidates will be called to this stage.

The next correspondence you will receive will be from the Public Appointments Service calling you for your Psychometric Test.

*Reminder: All candidates will be required to provide proof that they meet the qualifying criteria upon attendance at Stage 2, any candidate who is found not to be qualified will be removed from the competition.

Yours Sincerly

Recruitment & Competition Section
Defence Forces Headquarters

chubbysteve18

I did i got one from the navy also. Could anyone tell me what happens if you get called for two aptitude tests and they are scheduled for the same day?

osullic

chubbysteve18 wrote: »

I did i got one from the navy also. Could anyone tell me what happens if you get called for two aptitude tests and they are scheduled for the same day?

Yeah I also got one from the navy,I'm slightly concerned about the aptitude tests clashing too.

effluent

Is there any point in applying for a cadetship? I heard of someting like 90 applications per post available. That seems daft

goldie fish

effluent wrote: »

Is there any point in applying for a cadetship? I heard of someting like 90 applications per post available. That seems daft

If you are not in you can't win.
Just because 90 apply per post, does not mean that 90 are suitable from the outset, many will be excluded at the application stage, and normally by the time you get to medical, the ratio is closer to 5:1

Topper Harley

effluent wrote: »

Is there any point in applying for a cadetship? I heard of someting like 90 applications per post available. That seems daft

That's not really a great attitude to have towards anything. Sounds like Homer Simpson logic: "the lesson is, never try."

As goldie fish said, if you're not in you can't win.

shanec1928

got that same email, i take it that means we got accepted to the first stage

osullic

effluent wrote: »

Is there any point in applying for a cadetship? I heard of someting like 90 applications per post available. That seems daft

Wow the PD really lost out in a quality candidate in you,your defeatist attitude is obviously a fantastic attribute.

oldspice

Just wondering has anyone recieved the second email from the DF about the aptitude test?

As it said in the email "The next correspondence you will receive will be from the Public Appointments Service calling you for your Psychometric Test"

mhorda

Id say it will be next week..but who knows..

deals4deals

what time of day during the 27th of April will you have to take the test.the email doesn't give times,making my way from cork for these tests so planing is essential

osullic

Got this today

Dear osullic,

Thank you for you application for Air Corps Cadetship 2011. The following is the new timetable for the remainder of the Competition.

Stage 1: Fitness Testing - 18th of Apr to 21st of Apr in Baldonnel Aerodrome, Dublin. All candidates who meet the minimum qualifying criteria for this years competition will be called for this stage. The Criteria are found at http://www.military.ie/careers/booklets/11-02-25%20(Feb)%20Cadet%20Booklet%202011.pdf

Stage 2a: Secondary School Candidates Preliminary Interviews - 26th of Apr to 29th of Apr in the Baldonnel Aerodrome, Dublin. Only current secondary school students will be called on these dates, so as to coincide with School Easter Holidays

Stage 2b: Preliminary Interviews all other candidates- 03rd of May to 06th of May in Baldonnel Aerodrome, Dublin.

Stage 3: Aptitude Testing - 28th of May to 29th of May in Baldonnel Aerodrome, Dublin.

Stage 4: Final Interviews - 04th of July to 15th of July in Baldonnel Aerodrome, Dublin.

Stage 5: General Medical - 01st of Aug to 03rd of Aug in St. Bricin's Medical Hospital, Dublin.

Stage 6: Air Medical - 15th of Aug to 19th of Aug in Baldonnel Aerodrome, Dublin.

The next correspondence you will receive will be from the Lt Emmet Duffy, Air Corps Officer Cadet Competition Secretary calling you for your Fitness Test. Please direct any enquiries to xxxx@xxx

*Reminder: All candidates will be required to provide proof that they meet the qualifying criteria upon attendance at Stage 2, any candidate who is found not to be qualified will be removed from the competition.

Yours Sincerly

Recruitment & Competition Section
Defence Forces Headquarters

rallye150flyer

osullic wrote: »

Got this today

i got that too. different from last year they never sent out the proposed dates for each stage last year

delta720

They have nothing scheduled all June, but have the first two stages right during University exam season. Going to effect a lot of applicants I think.

shanec1928

delta720 wrote: »

They have nothing scheduled all June, but have the first two stages right during University exam season. Going to effect a lot of applicants I think.

for the leaving cert maybe their looking for younger entries this year?

oldspice

has anyone recieved the second email about the Army yet or is it just the air corp that has recieved the emails?

effluent

osullic wrote: »

Wow the PD really lost out in a quality candidate in you,your defeatist attitude is obviously a fantastic attribute.

Defeatist, no. Realistic, yes. At the end of the day people are only getting in on a quota system which is unfair to a lot of applicants as they may well be good officers but will not get the cadetship based on a quota system.

IMO you are or you are not capable to become an officer, thats that. They may well have lost out in a potiential officer of a foreign country.

Topper Harley

effluent wrote: »

Is there any point in applying for a cadetship? I heard of someting like 90 applications per post available. That seems daft

effluent wrote: »

Defeatist, no. Realistic, yes. At the end of the day people are only getting in on a quota system which is unfair to a lot of applicants as they may well be good officers but will not get the cadetship based on a quota system.

IMO you are or you are not capable to become an officer, thats that. They may well have lost out in a potiential officer of a foreign country.

That's still a defeatist attitude to have. If everyone had that attitude then no one would apply. Now that would be daft. I agree that it's a bit unfair that many capable applicants won't get in, but what's the alternative? Take on more cadets than are needed.

osullic

Topper Harley wrote: »

That's still a defeatist attitude to have. If everyone had that attitude then no one would apply. Now that would be daft. I agree that it's a bit unfair that many capable applicants won't get in, but what's the alternative? Take on more cadets than are needed.

Beat me to it Topper.

pablomakaveli

deals4deals wrote: »

what time of day during the 27th of April will you have to take the test.the email doesn't give times,making my way from cork for these tests so planing is essential

With last years one my aptitude test was at 9:30 in the morning and since i was coming up from Cork as well, i had to travel up the day before and stay the night in Dublin.

So if your test is early in the morning you might be better off heading up the day before.