Should we sell off the ghost estates for nothing?

yrwhu8jxtni06a

It probably never happen due to some people who might as well have a 1000 year mortgages,but,would be best to sell off the ghost house estates for practically nothing?.

Blazer

oh definitely...in fact let me just get out my wallet

orourkeda

why not convert them for a more practical purpose.

amacca

well speaking as an interested buyer.....yes absolutely!

just as long as

there are no upkeep costs

I have no liability should anyone injure themselves on my shiny new ghost estates etc

and I can have as many of my thrill seeking hippy commune friends over as I want and let the neighbours bedamned I tells ye.

PK2008

Who you gonna call?

Ghostbusters!!!!!!

Oranage2

We shouldnt have bought them in the first place - Burn the bond holders jail the rest!

KeithM89_old

Please dont. Iv been living in one for the past 3 years and havent been caught yet. I move to a different house each day. Today im in number 227.

My name is URL

Anything would be better than just allowing them to sit there serving no purpose.

amacca

PK2008 wrote: »

Who you gonna call?

the local county council?

oh no perhaps not

psychic meg?

a sex line?...yes that'll do

Fremen

We could charge large groups of tourists thousands of quid a pop to have massive parties in them.

galwayrush

You mean give them away for nothing, free meaning at no cost.....:D

Sticky_Fingers

Many unfinished houses will have to be tore down but I think it is criminal that finished units that are ready to move into are being allowed to sit idle. Personally I would move into one of them, I actually want to move into the countryside away from the big cities so if I could buy a cheap one on an estate (finished of course) thats out in the middle of nowhere then I would seriously consider it. The price would have to be pretty low though since there are many rural properties going for a song at the moment.

christmas2010

Maybe they should be donated to the vast numbers of newly unemployed Fianna Fail ex TDs!

seanybiker

Sickened there is none really close to me. Definitely move into one and have a session or two

amacca

christmas2010 wrote: »

Maybe they should be donated to the vast numbers of newly unemployed Fianna Fail ex TDs!

they wont be movin into my fcukin ghost estate

backstards!

ill keep my dealers, pimps and hoes and disaffected hooligan youths with nary a braincell to rub between them tks v.much

galwegians

co councils should take them over seeing how- NAMA- own most of them anyway and put all the people waiting for social and affordble housing into them.
and fair play to the fella squatting in a different one each day, well done.:D.

ejmaztec

galwayrush wrote: »

You mean give them away for nothing, free meaning at no cost.....:D

He forgot to use the proviso "terms and conditions apply", so they must be free (apart from the cost of finishing off the unbuilt properties, the roads, pavements, street-lighting, sewerage, etc etc etc)

pragmatic1

My name is URL wrote: »

Anything would be better than just allowing them to sit there serving no purpose.

I agree. Its a complete waste.

letsbehonest

I think we should let the developers live in them and let the people that are currently living in them move into the developers houses!

maglite

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Princess Consuela Bananahammock

My name is URL wrote: »

Anything would be better than just allowing them to sit there serving no purpose.

Artist hippy squats! Woo hooo!!!!1

*runs off to book ticket home

Sofiztikated

Just think of the paintball/airsoft session you could have in one of them.

Proper urban combat.

That was my first though. No stealing my thoughts or ideas. :mad:

bmarley

What about the people who have already bought a property on one of these estates, should they be entitled to a refund? There are very few which are completely empty.

Sofiztikated

bmarley wrote: »

What about the people who have already bought a property on one of these estates, should they be entitled to a refund? There are very few which are completely empty.

Why? They bought the house, I assume their house is finished and liveable in?

What's to refund?

cordub

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Why? They bought the house, I assume their house is finished and liveable in?

What's to refund?

If they are filled with people who get them free it will hugely deflate the prices of the houses that people spent a fortune on , Plus what about if they end up with a load of gurriers living next to them NIGHTMARE I would be devestated !!!:mad::mad:

Cybertron85

cordub wrote: »

If they are filled with people who get them free it will hugely deflate the prices of the houses that people spent a fortune on , Plus what about if they end up with a load of gurriers living next to them NIGHTMARE I would be devestated !!!:mad::mad:

Yeah, partial rebate for the folks living there already and sell the empties at a low price, without giving them away for free.

Presumably there are still familes and young couples out there who would be willing to snap up a very cheap house. + most are in the commuter belt so plenty of takers.

Sofiztikated

cordub wrote: »

If they are filled with people who get them free it will hugely deflate the prices of the houses that people spent a fortune on , Plus what about if they end up with a load of gurriers living next to them NIGHTMARE I would be devestated !!!:mad::mad:

True, it would be unpleasant. But to get a "refund?"

That's the hazards you take when you are an early adopter to something new, should it be a new computer device, or a first house on an estate.

Run_to_da_hills

christmas2010 wrote: »

Maybe they should be donated to the vast numbers of newly unemployed Fianna Fail ex TDs!

Why, these useless redundant Fianna Fail TD"s could well afford to upgrade to where ever they want with their life time fat pensions just about to kick in.

They should locked up in jail instead.

Amhran Nua

Hire them out for zombie/apocalypse movies.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Free premises for start up companies?

Sofiztikated

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Hire them out for zombie/apocalypse movies.

See, it's this kind of thinking that'll get out of a hole. Some people want to give them away, **** that for a game of tiddlywinks, charge people for it!

It makes money, money is then spent, people get paid, jobs are kept.

Too much doom and gloom in these parts lately!

johnmcdnl

well seeing as NAMA is part of the government I guess we won't have to build any more council houses for a long long long long time...

otherwise just try to sell them at least in a few years time...

giving them away for free is kinda stupid is it not

My name is URL

Sofiztikated wrote: »

True, it would be unpleasant. But to get a "refund?"

That's the hazards you take when you are an early adopter to something new, should it be a new computer device, or a first house on an estate.

Aye, but people buying houses in estates didn't do so with a view of being left living on a building site.

The state should finish them imo, and sell the homes at a time when it's profitable to do so. They could rent them out until then presumably.

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Sofiztikated wrote: »

See, it's this kind of thinking that'll get out of a hole. Some people want to give them away, **** that for a game of tiddlywinks, charge people for it!

It makes money, money is then spent, people get paid, jobs are kept.

Too much doom and gloom in these parts lately!

You're not wrong, we could do something ridicolously crazy and cool with them, something that would make the papers worldwode and get the internet buzzing and that people would actually come to see!

Battle Royale platforms for international delinquents?

amacca

Ada Damp Vengeance wrote: »

Free premises for start up companies?

not such a bad idea

they would be suitable for some startups as office space surely

ilovesleep

Would these ghost estates be owned by NAMA in which the tax payer now pays for?

The best thing for these ghost estates, finish them if they are not finished. Unemployed construction workers could do the job. Scrap rent allowance. People, who were in receipt of rent allowance, now gets a NAMA house. Scrapping rent allowance would save money, and would reduce rents for everyone renting.

Owen

If the Government had half a brain, they'd look at these empty houses, and then look at people like who've been paying rent without a bother for x amount of years but can't get the money together for a deposit. They'd offer us the houses with pre-approved mortgages and hey presto, things are moving again.

Course, that's a very simple plan, full of holes no doubt.

Pauleta

There are 120,000 ghost houses in Ireland according to RTE. I would imagine most are under the reign of NAMA. I think they should used for the social housing list and then when everyone is off the list it ends. No more free gaffs for having children you cant afford and if people turn down the houses then as a goodwill gesture the state shall send them a good luck card :cool:

Actually I was having a conversation with someone about these. Does squatters rights still exist and, if so, could you squat in one of these ghost houses and possibly own it afterwards?

ilovesleep

Pauleta wrote: »

There are 120,000 ghost houses in Ireland according to RTE. I would imagine most are under the reign of NAMA. I think they should used for the social housing list and then when everyone is off the list it ends. No more free gaffs for having children you cant afford and if people turn down the houses then as a goodwill gesture the state shall send them a good luck card :cool:

I wonder how much people are in receipt of rent allowance?

ilovesleep

Deleted User wrote: »

Actually I was having a conversation with someone about these. Does squatters rights still exist and, if so, could you squat in one of these ghost houses and possibly own it afterwards?

Go for it!

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Deleted User wrote: »

Actually I was having a conversation with someone about these. Does squatters rights still exist and, if so, could you squat in one of these ghost houses and possibly own it afterwards?

Yes you could as long as you do so for 12 years without anyone else asserting their ownership

fontanalis

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Just think of the paintball/airsoft session you could have in one of them.

Proper urban combat.

That was my first though. No stealing my thoughts or ideas. :mad:

I had it first!

poppyvalley

johnmcdnl wrote: »

otherwise just try to sell them at least in a few years time

Wont they get dilapitated and rundown in the meantime, it wont make them very sellable

CorsetIsTight

johnmcdnl wrote: »

well seeing as NAMA is part of the government I guess we won't have to build any more council houses for a long long long long time...

otherwise just try to sell them at least in a few years time...

giving them away for free is kinda stupid is it not

The houses in ghost estates probably couldn't be used as council houses without having a lot of extra money spent on them, because private houses are built to a much lower standard than council houses.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Just think of the paintball/airsoft session you could have in one of them.

Proper urban combat.

That was my first though. No stealing my thoughts or ideas. :mad:

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Hire them out for zombie/apocalypse movies.

I really think you two need to sit down together and thrash these ideas out...!

admiralofthefleet

i would love to buy one but i would imagine 99.9% of them arent fit for living in

yrwhu8jxtni06a

Only method i see out would be to give a contract of house of really cheap price under condition tenant will waive all their rights and get local builders to undertake the work themselves without need of taxpayer paying council to do it.

Question on rent allowance,91,000 receiving, on most recent report could find-

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/strain-on-rent-relief-as-32000-foreigners-claim-aid-1843632.html

Amhran Nua

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

I really think you two need to sit down together and thrash these ideas out...!

Haha, seriously though I was thinking about getting a few people together to shoot an amateur short along those lines with some hardware I'll be getting my hands on shortly, and tying it in with a software project which is being built. It'll probably remain on the maybe list for the forseeable future, I've enough going on already.

K-9

It isn't the worst idea at all.

We haven't seen the long term extent of the property bubble at all yet.

Ghost estates and Apartment complexes in a few years, with banks or whatever few developers are left (with no money) managing them, in charge of them.

Serious problem for the next Government and never was a big issue surprisingly.

They canvassed enough of them. Probably not a clue of what to do!

mikemac

The best built houses in Ireland are council houses.
If you go around Dublin you'll still find housing from the 1930's. The housing schemes back then are one of the best things Fianna Fáil ever achieved. Credit where it's due

This apartment I rent may as well have walls of cardboard. My neighbour coughs and I can hear it

Look across the road the council houses aren't lookers but they are solid and as good as when they were built in the 1950's.

You can turn the ghost estates over for social housing but you'll have to spend a lot of money upgrading them if they are to last