Sinn Féin, who got in and what next?

Wolfe Tone

Seems like this will be a very good election for SF, Gerry Adams said the target was to double seats, that seems likely.

I thought this thread would be good to keep track of how SF do.


In my own constituency Gerry Adams seems likely to top the poll, he is in regardless, question is wether he takes the first or second seat.


How are they doing around the country? Dessie Ellis is in with a good shout apparently, how is Mary Lou doing? Hope she gets in.



Sinn Féin candidates elected to the 31st Dáil:

Pearse Doherty tops the poll in Donegal South West with 14,262 first preferences - quota is 10,816

Gerry Adams tops the poll in Louth with 15,072 - quota was 13,864

Seán Crowe, elected in Dublin South West with 10,189 votes. Quota: 9,393

Pádraig MacLochlainn, elected on 3rd count in Donegal North East with 9,585 votes. Quota: 9,480

Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin tops the poll in Cavan-Monaghan with 11,913 votes, quota 11,880.

Dessie Ellis elected in Dublin North West with 8,973 votes

Jonathan O'Brien elected in Cork North Central

Peadar Tóibín elected in Meath West with 9,112 votes.

Martin Ferris elected in Kerry North West/Limerick with 11,416 votes

Sandra McLellan elected in Cork East with 9,785 votes

Mary Lou McDonald elected in Dublin Central with 6,587 votes

Michael Colreavy elected in Sligo-North Leitrim with 9,771 votes

Aengus O'Snodaigh elected in Dublin South Central

Nodin

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Seems like this will be a very good election for SF, Gerry Adams said the target was to double seats, that seems likely.

I thought this thread would b good to keep track of how SF do.


In my own constituency Gerry Adams seems likely to top the poll, he is in regardless, question is wether he takes the first or second seat.


How are they doing around the country? Dessie Ellis is in with a good shout apparently, how is Mary Lou doing? Hope she gets in.

It's worth noting that at least one article in the Independent claimed that gerry was 'struggling' in louth, citing "sources" in a blatanly transparent piece of crap masquerading as journalism....

amacachi

Nodin wrote: »

It's worth noting that at least one article in the Independent claimed that gerry was 'struggling' in louth, citing "sources" in a blatanly transparent piece of crap masquerading as journalism....

It was ignorance rather than malice I think, the early tallies were Drogheda where he wasn't on track to make the quota and, we won't know if he gets in on the first count, I doubt he'd get many transfers.

Biggins

Nodin wrote: »

It's worth noting that at least one article in the Independent claimed that gerry was 'struggling' in louth, citing "sources" in a blatanly transparent piece of crap masquerading as journalism....

Well he will top the polls in Louth apparently (announced a few minutes ago on RTE) so that says a lot about the quality of The Independent's reporting.

Wolfe Tone

amacachi wrote: »

It was ignorance rather than malice I think, the early tallies were Drogheda where he wasn't on track to make the quota and, we won't know if he gets in on the first count, I doubt he'd get many transfers.

Im surprised how well he did in Drogheda, I thought he would struggle and rely on Dundalk, but he has done excellently.

rev2.0

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

How are they doing around the country?

Aengus O Snodaigh will get in in Dublin south central

Nodin

amacachi wrote: »

It was ignorance rather than malice I think, the early tallies were Drogheda where he wasn't on track to make the quota and, we won't know if he gets in on the first count, I doubt he'd get many transfers.

This is from a few days back. Article below

The Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams is struggling to avoid a humiliating defeat in the constituency of Louth.
Typically the Sinn Fein leader secures over 70 per cent of the first preferences in Stormont elections in his West Belfast homeland.
But after an initial blaze of positive publicity, sources now believe Mr Adams will be engaged in an embarrassing struggle with a pair of nondescript Fianna Fail candidates for the final seat.
The Fine Gael surge had put paid to any hopes of Mr Adams topping the poll, but strong campaigns by Labour and the second Fine Gael candidate Peter Fitzpatrick have damaged the Adams brand.
And local sources said the 'transfer repellent' status of the 'British Baron' means his election is far from certain.
The political celebrity has endured a mixed experience since he decided to dabble in Irish politics. In a humiliating put-down over the ongoing debate about Mr Adams' tangled relationship with the IRA, Fine Gael's Fergus O'Dowd told Mr Adams "you're no Michael Collins".
Yesterday, the Adams campaign came under attack from members of Jean McConville's family, who campaigned against him in Belfast. The mother of 10 was taken away by the IRA and murdered for comforting a dying British soldier. Another anti-Adams campaigner, John V Lennon from Cork, will be in Louth today to add his voice to the growing chorus of dissent against Mr Adams in Louth.
- JOHN DRENNAN
Sunday Independent

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/john-drennan/john-drennan-adams-facing-battle-for-last-seat-2548151.html

dlofnep

Looking at about 10 or 11 seats I'd say. 2 seats in Donegal for sure.

Biggins

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Im surprised how well he did in Drogheda, I thought he would struggle and rely on Dundalk, but he has done excellently.

Yes, he's done exceptionally well but then he had very good on the ground people for some time in the likes of one Dom Wilton.
A genuine nice chap whom I've met many times over many, many years and has been working tirelessly for the public as a local councilman in Drogheda. He alone along with others (Danny Churchill in Cloughterhead to name another) has gotten the name of SF direct to the doors of people in Louth.

Wolfe Tone

Nodin wrote: »

This is from a few days back. Article below


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/john-drennan/john-drennan-adams-facing-battle-for-last-seat-2548151.html

lol, pathetic journalism.

Biggins

Nodin wrote: »

This is from a few days back. Article below

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/john-drennan/john-drennan-adams-facing-battle-for-last-seat-2548151.html

Just goes to show how terribly bad that reporter was and it does not look good for the paper either who printed that rubbish.

Eliot Rosewater

This thread is about Sinn Fein results today. It is not about their economic policies. There are other threads about that.

Off-topic posts deleted.

/mod.

Lawrence1895

No matter, what the media said in advance, no matter, who started any kind of smear campaign, it looks like Gerry Adams has won the seat and I am more than delighted with that

zig

no luck for Quinliven in Limerick, unfortunate I thought he was in with a shout

danger man

amacachi wrote: »

It was ignorance rather than malice I think, the early tallies were Drogheda where he wasn't on track to make the quota and, we won't know if he gets in on the first count, I doubt he'd get many transfers.

labour got sf transfers

danger man

Biggins wrote: »

Yes, he's done exceptionally well but then he had very good on the ground people for some time in the likes of one Dom Wilton.
A genuine nice chap whom I've met many times over many, many years and has been working tirelessly for the public as a local councilman in Drogheda. He alone along with others (Danny Churchill in Cloughterhead to name another) has gotten the name of SF direct to the doors of people in Louth.

dom is a gent and very down to earth like most of the councilman in sinn fein,

i realy lol at the mad comments made again sinn fein on boards

amacachi

Nodin wrote: »

This is from a few days back. Article below


http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/john-drennan/john-drennan-adams-facing-battle-for-last-seat-2548151.html

The sooner print media dies the better. :pac:

TBH I don't see why Louth SFers are happy with the Adams situation, if I were in the party after all the work that's gone on over the years to get a SF seat in Louth he just parachutes in. I'd be pretty damn annoyed if it were me.

bluefinger

could triple their seats. aengus is in my constituency and will get in comfortably.

just wondering, does anyone know why thomas pringle left sinn fein?

as for what's next, i expect them to revise their economic strategy and start running additional candidates in some constituencies in the next election

Lawrence1895

amacachi wrote: »

The sooner print media dies the better. :pac:

TBH I don't see why Louth SFers are happy with the Adams situation, if I were in the party after all the work that's gone on over the years to get a SF seat in Louth he just parachutes in. I'd be pretty damn annoyed if it were me.

Considering that the people in the 26 counties seem to be much more resentful towards Sinn fein than the people in the 6 counties, the result for Gerry Adams can be seen a success.

amacachi

Lars1916 wrote: »

Considering that the people in the 26 counties seem to be much more resentful towards Sinn fein than the people in the 6 counties, the result for Gerry Adams can be seen a success.

No idea whatsoever how that is in any way a reply to what I said.

shocksy

Brian Stanley SF Laois/Offaly Constituency looks like he will be elected

Lawrence1895

amacachi wrote: »

No idea whatsoever how that is in any way a reply to what I said.

Okay, I try again...I know many people who say, that Gerry Adams is a criminal, that SF is a party from the North and that they would rather eat their own sh*** than voting for them.
That's what I mean with people in the 26 counties (i.e. Republic of Ireland) being resentful. And as long as we have comments like these against both Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein as such, every seat won has to be seen as a success

So I can see a reason, why SF in Louth have a reason to be happy with the 'Adams situation'

amacachi

Lars1916 wrote: »

Okay, I try again...I know many people who say, that Gerry Adams is a criminal, that SF is a party from the North and that they would rather eat their own sh*** than voting for them.
That's what I mean with people in the 26 counties (i.e. Republic of Ireland) being resentful. And as long as we have comments like these against both Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein as such, every seat won has to be seen as a success

So I can see a reason, why SF in Louth have a reason to be happy with the 'Adams situation'

"Nice one, we've worked our nuts off for 20 years to get a secure seat here and then Gerry pops in and keeps it when he could've gone somewhere else that could've actually gained the party a seat instead of filling one that we earned." Gerry would've gotten elected in most constituencies, I'd be annoyed having worked for years to get the party to a point where it was almost a safe constituency for the leader to come in and take it.

Wolfe Tone

amacachi wrote: »

"Nice one, we've worked our nuts off for 20 years to get a secure seat here and then Gerry pops in and keeps it when he could've gone somewhere else that could've actually gained the party a seat instead of filling one that we earned." Gerry would've gotten elected in most constituencies, I'd be annoyed having worked for years to get the party to a point where it was almost a safe constituency for the leader to come in and take it.

Good from the parties point of view, he did give his seat in Belfast to a high profile person too.

Strongbow10

TV3 reckon RTE's exit poll is very inaccurate, they have projection of 16 seats for SF with only 17 for FF

amacachi

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Good from the parties point of view, he did give his seat in Belfast to a high profile person too.

He could've won a seat elsewhere that SF wouldn't have won otherwise, a decent local candidate would've almost definitely got in here if they'd given it a try.

Lawrence1895

amacachi wrote: »

"Nice one, we've worked our nuts off for 20 years to get a secure seat here and then Gerry pops in and keeps it when he could've gone somewhere else that could've actually gained the party a seat instead of filling one that we earned." Gerry would've gotten elected in most constituencies, I'd be annoyed having worked for years to get the party to a point where it was almost a safe constituency for the leader to come in and take it.

I didn't see it from that point of view, but I have to admit, you make a fair point there

Even if I don't think, Gerry would have won a seat in any other constituency. Some of them are too much dominated by other parties, as it looks to me.

But I still can't figure out, why Gerry Adams picked Louth...

wolfpawnat

I am in Sorcha Nic Cormaic's constituency. She won't get in through, I can tell you that it is extremely unlikely! Only 1,915 in a quota area of 12,108!

johnmcdnl

caoimhghin o'caolain in Cavan/Monaghan is on course to top the poll and get elected on first count

Kathryn Reilly is looking at a fight for the last seat with one of the FGers

delta720

amacachi wrote: »

TBH I don't see why Louth SFers are happy with the Adams situation, if I were in the party after all the work that's gone on over the years to get a SF seat in Louth he just parachutes in. I'd be pretty damn annoyed if it were me.

I'd say Tomas Sharkey was PISSED when he heard Gerry was going to run in the GE!

Though I be likely to think that he was promised he'd inherit the seat either in the next GE or the one after.

Only my opinion though.

wolfpawnat

delta720 wrote: »

I'd say Tomas Sharkey was PISSED when he heard Gerry was going to run in the GE!

Though I be likely to think that he was promised he'd inherit the seat either in the next GE or the one after.

Only my opinion though.

If he was really interested in the party he would accept it, but it would be sickening with Morgan stepping down and thinking you would be next to get in

Hannibal

Adams will get in on the first count topping the poll and beating the quota is what I heard.
Pearse Doherty, MaryLou McDonald, Aengus O'Snodaigh, Sean Crowe, Dessie Ellis, Padraic MacLochlainn, Martin Ferris all look good for seats. Larry O'Toole, Kathryn Reilly, Brian Stanley, Peadar Toibin and Eoin O'Broin all look like close battles I might have forgotton one or two

Wolfe Tone

Pearse Doherty topped the poll, in on first count.

amacachi

Again what would annoy me wouldn't be the entitlement but the work he's put in over the years. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Sharkey but the work he and others have put in over the years has been massive and I'd be annoyed in his situation.

Then again, I don't think I could ever be part of a political party, hearing about something being done for the good of the party I'd not be too happy. :pac:

danger man

amacachi wrote: »

The sooner print media dies the better. :pac:

TBH I don't see why Louth SFers are happy with the Adams situation, if I were in the party after all the work that's gone on over the years to get a SF seat in Louth he just parachutes in. I'd be pretty damn annoyed if it were me.

he is the right man for the job.

Ray Burkes Pension

johnmcdnl wrote: »

caoimhghin o'caolain in Cavan/Monaghan is on course to top the poll and get elected on first count

Kathryn Reilly is looking at a fight for the last seat with one of the FGers

It looks like SF have dropped the ball here. O'Caolain has picked up 1,600 votes in cavan that should have been Reilly's.

FG should get 3 seats.

wolfpawnat

Ray Burkes Pension wrote: »

It looks like SF have dropped the ball here. O'Caolain has picked up 1,600 votes in cavan that should have been Reilly's.

FG should get 3 seats.

O'Caolain topped the poll there in the last two elections, if he didn't get in this time I am afraid the entire electorate of Cavan/Monaghan would have all had to have been checked to see had they'd been given lobotomies!

delta720

amacachi wrote: »

Again what would annoy me wouldn't be the entitlement but the work he's put in over the years.

I think the point is that the work put in gives him the entitlement.

SF still prob wouldn't have gotten my vote, though I hear Sharkey is a sound guy. I just think parachute candidates are taking the piss, but if that's what the people vote for I'll willingly accept.

This obviously makes Gerry Adams party leader in the dail, over Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin?

I hate Sinn Fein but he's my cousin so I like to see him do well! So much for family politics!

wolfpawnat

delta720 wrote: »

I think the point is that the work put in gives him the entitlement.

SF still prob wouldn't have gotten my vote, though I hear Sharkey is a sound guy. I just think parachute candidates are taking the piss, but if that's what the people vote for I'll willingly accept.

This obviously makes Gerry Adams party leader in the dail, over Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin?

I hate Sinn Fein but he's my cousin so I like to see him do well! So much for family politics!

Haha I Michéal Martin is my cousin, and I wouldn't give him the steam off my píss, let alone a vote!

Yes he will be party leader in the Dáil, O'Caoláin I assume as his right hand man!

crebel81

Dotsey wrote: »

Adams will get in on the first count topping the poll and beating the quota is what I heard.
Pearse Doherty, MaryLou McDonald, Aengus O'Snodaigh, Sean Crowe, Dessie Ellis, Padraic MacLochlainn, Martin Ferris all look good for seats. Larry O'Toole, Kathryn Reilly, Brian Stanley, Peadar Toibin and Eoin O'Broin all look like close battles I might have forgotton one or two

Jonathan O'Brien in cork north central showing very well, last I heard. Sandra Mclellan doing well on 1st preferences....big question is the transfers. From what I could see at the count she wont get anything from FF

danger man

amacachi wrote: »

"Nice one, we've worked our nuts off for 20 years to get a secure seat here and then Gerry pops in and keeps it when he could've gone somewhere else that could've actually gained the party a seat instead of filling one that we earned." Gerry would've gotten elected in most constituencies, I'd be annoyed having worked for years to get the party to a point where it was almost a safe constituency for the leader to come in and take it.

their all trilled to have him down in louth.

Ray Burkes Pension

wolfpawnat wrote: »

O'Caolain topped the poll there in the last two elections, if he didn't get in this time I am afraid the entire electorate of Cavan/Monaghan would have all had to have been checked to see had they'd been given lobotomies!

O'Calolain will top the Poll but they are trying to get a second seat there. But because of bad Vote management noted above, it looks like reilly wont get her seat.

Jayob10

Any word on whether Paul Hogan in Longford Westmeath will sneak in?

A Dub in Glasgo

Great 1st preference for Dessie Ellis in my old constituency

Hannibal

crebel81 wrote: »

Jonathan O'Brien in cork north central showing very well, last I heard. Sandra Mclellan doing well on 1st preferences....big question is the transfers. From what I could see at the count she wont get anything from FF

The transfers have always been the problem, TV3 are tipping SF for 16 seats so it'll be interesting

A Dub in Glasgo

Padraig MacLochlainn about 200 votes short of the quota on the 1st count

imme

I guess it's less than they would have liked to get elected. Many commentators saying that they'll get 10 seats or just over it.

Surely they can't be any way happy with this?

Wasn't the idea of Gerry 'coming south' to give them a big boost, has this worked. Doesn't seem to have.

They will be a small party in the Dail, probably the second biggest opposition party. We'll know more in the coming days of course, as to the make up of the govt and the numbers of TD's for all parties.

Who will be their party leader in the Dail, what will they accomplish. All questions that have yet to be answered.

johnmcdnl

Well Gerry Adams is in comfortably anyways

Biggins

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Well Gerry Adams is in comfortably anyways

Shush... an Independent reporter might hear you!

challenges

Does anybody know anything about Victoria Mceneaney SF? In Meath/Louth??

Lawrence1895

Seems to be official now, Gerry Adams has got the seat