This forum really makes me want to visit Ireland, BUT...

Mr. Spock

I just love America too much. It is honestly the greatest country ever. Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your nice country.

AnonoBoy

We're not quite as fat, but we're getting there.

cruiser178

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I just love America too much. It is honestly the greatest country ever. Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your nice country.

your after me pot of gold aren't ya yank

Assassin saphir

Why would you ever want to leave....?:rolleyes:

Gunsfortoys

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I just love America too much. It is honestly the greatest country ever. Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your nice country.

Don't bother, we don't take kindly to american people.

pickarooney

Nah, you're dead right. If you must leave America, go somewhere like Japan.

krudler

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I just love America too much. It is honestly the greatest country ever. Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your nice country.

It'd want to be for the amount it costs.

We can swap, you live here and I'll move to the States. deal?

Adam

what makes you think we want you?

pablomakaveli

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I just love America too much. It is honestly the greatest country ever. Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your nice country.

Your American? I thought you lived under a bridge.

MarkR

This isn't logical, we have no oil.

Mr. Spock

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Don't bother, we don't take kindly to american people.

Why not? We're the same as you Irish folk, just born on a different mound of dirt.

who the fug

Just send your wallet and credit cards, so you can have the full tourist experience from the comfort of your own home

youcancallmeal

Mr. Spock wrote: »

best higher education system in the world

Which you end up paying for over most of your adult life! Unless of course your a trust fund baby?

Mr. Spock

pickarooney wrote: »

Nah, you're dead right. If you must leave America, go somewhere like Japan.

Location: France.

Are you really from France? Should I join the French Foreign Legion?

I like it cause its got the word "Legion" in it, which is pretty badass.

Jimmy the Wheel

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Why not? We're the same as you Irish folk, just born on a different mound of dirt.

After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting.

Monty Burnz

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Opportunity doth abound indeed, but I'm not sure about the other two. Higher education at degree and masters level is no better than here tbh. It's at doctoral and post-doc level where there are 15 or 20 great universities with huge endowments that there's a difference.

CelticRambler

Use one of your bountiful opportunities to take a week's holiday. Transatlantic flights do go both ways, you know. You could nearly cut it down to a day-trip if you miss the US that much when you're here.

Mr. Spock

youcancallme>al wrote: »

Which you end up paying for over most of your adult life! Unless of course your a trust fund baby?

Heh, I wish. It shouldn't take me too long to pay it off though, I'm guessing ~6-12 years.

Crann na Beatha

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R P McMurphy

Is not such a bad place www.youtube.com/watch?v=5emdftOIoos

Iwasfrozen

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Location: France.

Are you really from France? Should I join the French Foreign Legion?

I like it cause its got the word "Legion" in it, which is pretty badass.

Location: Vulcan

Are you really from Vulcan? Should I join the Federation?

I like it cause its got the word "Federation" in it, which is pretty badass.

Kiith

After Hours makes you want to visit Ireland?

Iwasfrozen

Obaraten wrote: »

You better not come Spock after all there are many Romulans here who dont take kindly to your kind

Yeah, that's what the Troubles were about.

Mr. Spock

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Opportunity doth abound indeed, but I'm not sure about the other two. Higher education at degree and masters level is no better than here tbh. It's at doctoral and post-doc level where there are 15 or 20 great universities with huge endowments that there's a difference.

http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

^Top 100 universities in the world.

Mr. Spock

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Location: Vulcan

Are you really from Vulcan? Should I join the Federation?

I like it cause its got the word "Federation" in it, which is pretty badass.

I am indeed from Vulcan. I joined the Federation after completing my secondary education against my fathers wishes. I'd highly recommend it, a lifetime of service is rewarding indeed.

Monty Burnz

Mr. Spock wrote: »

http://www.arwu.org/ARWU2010.jsp

^Top 100 universities in the world.

Thanks for that. Do you have any idea how that list is compiled?

Didn't think so.

My point is correct. (I'm doing PhD research at one of the universities on that list)

Hank Scorpio

If you visit I`ll personally save you some authentic Jars of Irish air! All your American comrades have bought them in the thousands

Mr. Spock

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Thanks for that. Do you have any idea how that list is compiled?

Didn't think so.

My point is correct.

It uses a standardized criteria, including prestige of professors, nobel winners, student success rate, research and some other junk.

Mr. Spock

Also what point are you making, Monty Bunz?

Pauleta

Gunsfortoys wrote: »

Don't bother, we don't take kindly to american people.

Cmon Skeeter, he aint hurtin nobody

mickydoomsux

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Is not such a bad place www.youtube.com/watch?v=5emdftOIoos

Highest cliffs in Europe mother****ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take that, Dover!

ciara95

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Why not? We're the same as you Irish folk, just born on a different mound of dirt.

If you end up coming here, dont say that! The most annoying thing ever is when someone with the biggest american accent is like 'Oh, you're Irish? Me too'. Like, for real? You think you are irish? To all those annoying american people that say that: stfu, thanks:) And i have never heard people from other countries say that, pretend theyre Irish. Like i know there was mass emigration to America, but my granny is english and im not like oh yeah im english too. And my great great great great grandad is german but im not like oh im german too. Like be proud of where you are ACTUALLY from. Where you where born and raised and educated and where your friends are. Ok, rant over!

Monty Burnz

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Also what point are you making, Monty Bunz?

I suggest you re-read my post. I tried to keep it short, for the hard-of-thinking.

Mr. Spock

ciara95 wrote: »

If you end up coming here, dont say that! The most annoying thing ever is when someone with the biggest american accent is like 'Oh, you're Irish? Me too'. Like, for real? You think you are irish? To all those annoying american people that say that: stfu, thanks:) And i have never heard people from other countries say that, pretend theyre Irish. Like i know there was mass emigration to America, but my granny is english and im not like oh yeah im english too. And my great great great great grandad is german but im not like oh im german too. Like be proud of where you are ACTUALLY from. Where you where born and raised and educated and where your friends are. Ok, rant over!

I never claimed to be Irish. If we're playing that game I'm Canadian, thankfully born in the United States. I'm quite proud to be an American, but the differences are socially created and extremely superficial.

Luxie

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Highest cliffs in Europe mother****ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take that, Dover!

And top tourist destination for the Chinese.

A great bunch of lads.

Monty Burnz

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I never claimed to be Irish. If we're playing that game I'm Canadian, thankfully born in the United States. I'm quite proud to be an American, but the differences are socially created and extremely superficial.

True enough.

coffeelover

If you end up coming here, dont say that! The most annoying thing ever is when someone with the biggest american accent is like 'Oh, you're Irish? Me too'. Like, for real? You think you are irish? To all those annoying american people that say that: stfu, thanks And i have never heard people from other countries say that, pretend theyre Irish. Like i know there was mass emigration to America, but my granny is english and im not like oh yeah im english too. And my great great great great grandad is german but im not like oh im german too. Like be proud of where you are ACTUALLY from. Where you where born and raised and educated and where your friends are. Ok, rant over!

Ur irish :eek: my great great grannys uncles cousins wifes sisters dog was irish!

R P McMurphy

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Highest cliffs in Europe mother****ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Take that, Dover!

They did a good job on that promotional video. With all that has gone wrong and all of the negativity of the past three years it is easy to forget we still live in a great country.

Gunsfortoys

ciara95 wrote: »

If you end up coming here, dont say that! The most annoying thing ever is when someone with the biggest american accent is like 'Oh, you're Irish? Me too'. Like, for real? You think you are irish? To all those annoying american people that say that: stfu, thanks:) And i have never heard people from other countries say that, pretend theyre Irish. Like i know there was mass emigration to America, but my granny is english and im not like oh yeah im english too. And my great great great great grandad is german but im not like oh im german too. Like be proud of where you are ACTUALLY from. Where you where born and raised and educated and where your friends are. Ok, rant over!

coffeelover wrote: »

Ur irish :eek: my great great grannys uncles cousins wifes sisters dog was irish!

He certainly won't be coming for the education standards anyway. :pac:

Mr. Spock

Monty Burnz wrote: »

I suggest you re-read my post. I tried to keep it short, for the hard-of-thinking.

I did read. You challenged my claim of best higher education system and I proved you wrong.

jester77

Before you can pass through immigration here (unlike the mighty US, over her you won't really need a passport, finger print, photo, 100 forms filled out and a lengthy interrogation session) you will have to answer a difficult questionnaire:

1. Do you like the British?

mickydoomsux

R P McMurphy wrote: »

They did a good job on that promotional video. With all that has gone wrong and all of the negativity of the past three years it is easy to forget we still live in a great country.

Don't get me wrong, it's a great video.

However, no tourist is coming over here to measure our cliffs.

Mr. Spock

jester77 wrote: »

Before you can pass through immigration here (unlike the mighty US, over her you won't really need a passport, finger print, photo, 100 forms filled out and a lengthy interrogation session) you will have to answer a difficult questionnaire:

1. Do you like the British?

Of course not. We ran train on them in 1776 for a reason.

coffeelover

Haha I'll swap places with you Mr. Spock. I was born in America and would give anyway to go back for a while to see what it's like

Monty Burnz

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I did read. You challenged my claim of best higher education system and I proved you wrong.

You didn't. You provided a list of universities ranked entirely on their research output, not on their teaching standards. Now if you think that that is what determines the quality of higher education, you may have a point, but I don't think it does. Great researchers do not make great teachers, and somebody who is doing a BA in Harvard will not get a noticeably better education than someone doing a BA in Trinity College Dublin.

Here are the criteria of the ranking you provided:

Alumni of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals
Staff of an institution winning Nobel Prizes and Fields Medals
Highly cited researchers in 21 broad subject categories
Papers published in Nature and Science
Papers indexed in Science Citation Index-expanded and Social Science Citation Index
Per capita academic performance of an institution (all the above divided by number of staff)

Now if you said that the US has the best research universities in the world, I'd have no particular argument with that.

goz83

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, it's a great video.

However, no tourist is coming over here to measure our cliffs.

No, but they love to drive on our winding roads. Come to Ireland; only the farmers and drug dealers are allowed to carry fire arms here. We don't trust the Gardai (cops), or those under the age of 10 to hold loaded killing machines. We like canadians, so answer the "do you like the british?" question and tell us all you're canadian and you'll be grand. We'll even buy you a Guinness (after we've taken your wallet without you knowing). Don't forget to bring captain Kirk with you!

On a serious note, we have a great country and we're usually very friendly, funny folk who get along with everyone (except the brits...joke). @coffeelover...I wouldn't be shouting any English connections from the highest cliffs in europe.

ejmaztec

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Of course not. We ran train on them in 1776 for a reason.

Have you ever been grabbed by the Klingons?

pragmatic1

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I just love America too much. It is honestly the greatest country ever. Opportunity abound, best higher education system in the world and most enlightened form of government.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your nice country.

You're better off where you are spock. Its going to be fairly grim around here for the foreseeable future. Lots of social problems on the way.

Mr. Spock

Mr. Spock wrote: »

Why not? We're the same as you Irish folk, just born on a different mound of dirt.

I think your first post answers this question; many people find American arrogance to be extremely irritating. The United States has an incredible number of faults, and it could be argued that some European countries are better places to live.

Cosimo Salvatore

Mr. Spock wrote: »

I just love America too much. In my humble and personal opinion, It is the greatest country ever, of course, as I said, that's just my opinion. Opportunity abound, quite possibly one of the best higher education systems in the world and the most destructive, corrupt & unlawful forms of government ever.

Please help convince me to make the trek across the Atlantic to your country.

FYP

D1976

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJ3RrqBqk14