TV Debate

county man · 22-02-2011 4:10pm #1

The last TV debate between the main party leaders is on tonight.At this stage I doubt provided that no one makes any major blunders that it will make much difference as regarding peoples decisions as who to vote for.Does anyone agree with me?

Pure Sound · 22-02-2011 4:18pm

Too many TV debates has me sick of the whole thing really. This final debate will not make a bit of a difference. People will mainly vote for the same people they voted for last time around regardless of the leaders. Those who change and were once FF will vote FG because they can't see past civil war politics even though they havn't a clue of what the policies are. Personally I feel that FG will put the country into further poverty, taxing the poor feeding the rich. Privatising the HSE is just the start of the destruction of Ireland.

Downlinz · 22-02-2011 4:23pm

I don't think there's anything to be said that hasn't been mentioned already.

meglome · 22-02-2011 4:28pm

We Need Community wrote: »

Personally I feel that FG will put the country into further poverty, taxing the poor feeding the rich. Privatising the HSE is just the start of the destruction of Ireland.

Those on under 25k pay fuk all tax in this country. Personally if I were one of the rich people that pay most of our tax I'd be wondering why the tax burden wasn't being shared a bit more. And where did they say they'd privatise the HSE? I read their manifesto and I didn't see that.

Pure Sound · 22-02-2011 5:04pm

The entire health system will be reliant on a private compulsory health insurance that will be in place to make profits not to serve the people a basic human right. These private companies will have a major role in how the hospital is funded etc. The rich people in this country should be taxed more or at least pay staff more, after all the reason they are so rich is down to the employees that serve them. Why should some people in Ireland live an extragant lifestyle whilst others are struggling to survive. Are these the overconsumers that you wish to protect meglome.

People on less then 25k are already struggling, why punish them more.

county man · 22-02-2011 6:33pm

Gerry Adams on RTE News has protested about his exclusion from tonights debate.Par for the course I suppose.:rolleyes:

Permabear · 22-02-2011 6:39pm

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county man · 22-02-2011 6:41pm

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Miriam O Callaghan as far as I know.

hotmail.com · 22-02-2011 6:47pm

There's apparently going to be a poll published tonight in time for the debate.

If I were either of the leaders, I wouldn't want to know the outcome of the poll, it might put them off!

dashboard_hula · 22-02-2011 6:48pm

I know Miriam has moderated TV debates before, but I've not seen them. I found it incredibly irritating the last time that Pat Kenny kept on interrupting. I understood the need to keep statements to a minimum when time was tight, but I spent most of the debate gritting my teeth because I couldn't actually hear what the candidate was trying to say over the sound of his voice. Is Miriam generally like this, does she let debaters have their head or is she pretty firm?

3ndahalfof6 · 22-02-2011 6:53pm

I tihnk it is good as I have heard FG have a 5 point plan we might get to hear about it.

cooperguy · 22-02-2011 7:19pm

Is this going to be streamed online?

Mr.Micro · 22-02-2011 7:27pm

dashboard_hula wrote: »

I know Miriam has moderated TV debates before, but I've not seen them. I found it incredibly irritating the last time that Pat Kenny kept on interrupting. I understood the need to keep statements to a minimum when time was tight, but I spent most of the debate gritting my teeth because I couldn't actually hear what the candidate was trying to say over the sound of his voice. Is Miriam generally like this, does she let debaters have their head or is she pretty firm?

IMO the last time with chancer Ahern and Kenny she was not impartial. She appeared to favour Ahern.

steelcityblues · 22-02-2011 7:30pm

Gerry Adams will be the beneficiary by not being there!

CiaranMT · 22-02-2011 8:50pm

cooperguy wrote: »

Is this going to be streamed online?

Bump, would also like to know this.

Palimpsest · 22-02-2011 9:33pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

There's apparently going to be a poll published tonight in time for the debate.

If I were either of the leaders, I wouldn't want to know the outcome of the poll, it might put them off!

I would love to know. Personally I have never met or heard of anyone being asked to participate. If I hear Enda banging on about the 5 point plan anymore I will have to turn the debate off.

Dave! · 22-02-2011 9:35pm

It seems Fine Gael threw the last of their campaign money into a fancy 2 minute ad on RTÉ just before the last debate -- nice one!

Palimpsest · 22-02-2011 9:36pm

I thought the galtee rasher ad was better!

SEPT 23 1989 · 22-02-2011 9:43pm

The neck of Martin:mad:

Sulmac · 22-02-2011 9:43pm

Martin says he's been honest about the 'mistakes' of the past.

Ahem, when?

lempsipmax · 22-02-2011 9:43pm

Is the THE thread?

Pyro Boy · 22-02-2011 9:44pm

5 point plan first mention

how many times will we hear it tonight.

Dave! · 22-02-2011 9:44pm

I like that Micheal Martin fella, he seems honest! He must be a new guy, with all those fresh ideas

Pyro Boy wrote: »

5 point plan first mention how many times will we hear it tonight.

Drinking game?

RandolphEsq · 22-02-2011 9:44pm

Spoofmore about to spoof . . .

Psychedelic · 22-02-2011 9:45pm

Good opening statement by Enda.

nesf · 22-02-2011 9:45pm

Enda a bit wooden. Gilmore sounding a bit, um, deflated/weak/hoarse compared to his usual fiery self.

Oh_Noes · 22-02-2011 9:45pm

lempsipmax wrote: »

Is the THE thread?

No it's a secondary one. Do you feel dirty now?

Enda Kenny actually reminded me of George W Bush there.

Wildlife Actor · 22-02-2011 9:45pm

Phew. Thought there was no thread!

bogwalrus · 22-02-2011 9:46pm

some irish whiskey at hand. ill play this drinking game:D

3ndahalfof6 · 22-02-2011 9:46pm

lets count how many times the 5 point plan is mentioned 2 times so far

Wildlife Actor · 22-02-2011 9:46pm

Yay! Vote Gilmore and don't pay your mortgage!

Duckworth_Luas · 22-02-2011 9:46pm

Dave! wrote: »

I like that Micheal Martin fella, he seems honest! He must be a new guy, with all those fresh ideas

Yeah, what's the name of his party? The candidates down my way don't mention that on their posters.

Dave! · 22-02-2011 9:46pm

"It's not all about the national budget; it's about the family budget too"

Oh man, Labour love a good soundbite!

Who's Labour's spokesman for catchy one-liners?

cooperguy · 22-02-2011 9:47pm

Streamed here by the way: http://www.rte.ie/news/player_live.html#31981083,'http://dj.rte.ie/vodfeeds/feedgenerator/videos/live/?id=8','flash',255,{"name":"RT_News_Nine_OClock_and_Weather","autoPlay":true,"noAds":"true","adLocation":"/ads/video/live.inc","explicit":false,"playListContainer":"clip"}

Dave! · 22-02-2011 9:47pm

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bleg · 22-02-2011 9:48pm

****ing 5 point plan, we get it Enda, change the ****ing record and talk specifics. Really annoying me now.

Sad Professor · 22-02-2011 9:49pm

Questions are crap. Are you being honest? Um, they are hardly going to say no. Lots of room to waffle.

irishgeo · 22-02-2011 9:49pm

i am going to count how many times enda says 5 point plan.

Dave! · 22-02-2011 9:50pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Questions are crap. Are you being honest? Um, they are hardly going to say no. Lots of room to waffle.

Mir starting off nice and gentle

Lame Lantern · 22-02-2011 9:51pm

Plainly moronic questions so far, all we've heard is speech-giving, let's hear some, you know, debating.

If RTE has pussied out to Fine Gael yet again I'll explode.

lempsipmax · 22-02-2011 9:51pm

The slow rate of posting on here really make me think that there is another thread on here about this programme. Or else the debate is so lifeless no one gives a dam.

Sad Professor · 22-02-2011 9:51pm

irishgeo wrote: »

i am going to count how many times enda says 5 point plan.

Would make a great drinking game. Too bad I have to be up early tomorrow.

yessam · 22-02-2011 9:51pm

Gilmore sounds nervous.

Kenny getting a good start

hotmail.com · 22-02-2011 9:52pm

Bored already.

Villain · 22-02-2011 9:52pm

Smart economy and every student spends 13 years learning Irish and 0 on any I.T. Section!!!

cozar · 22-02-2011 9:52pm

irishgeo wrote: »

i am going to count how many times enda says 5 point plan.

or how about "get Ireland working" now that would be a surprise, bored already

caseyann · 22-02-2011 9:52pm

steelcityblues wrote: »

Gerry Adams will be the beneficiary by not being there!

I read this already,how will it be beneficiary?
And why wasn't he invited?

RandolphEsq · 22-02-2011 9:53pm

Gilmore caught out on his spoofing straight away by MM

baldbear · 22-02-2011 9:53pm

I liked the way Enda moved that pen, like Harry Potter using a wand!

lempsipmax · 22-02-2011 9:53pm

I still find it absolutely astounding that neither Gilmore or Kenny can bury Martin, considering the mess the country is in and that he has been in power for 14 years!

Sibylla · 22-02-2011 9:53pm

'Honest, credible and realistic' is how Martin describes his plan, very hard to swallow.

The debate is online now live

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0222/election_2011.html

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