Protein Shake & Recover Drink Q?

Richie_c

Hey Boys/Girls

I have a question about the above. Are the basically the same? I've started p90x and the nutrition guide states to drink a recovery drink after workouts and then a protein shake during the day (breakfast or snack) so what I want to know is are they the same? Do I need to buy both or with either suffice

Cheers

Richie

Khannie

They're not the same. A protein shake is generally just flavoured protein + water. A recovery shake generally has carbs as well as protein.

Richie_c

Cheers Khannie, I'll use both as per the nutrition guide so!

Deedsie

I always make my protein shakes with milk! Is it better to make them with water?

Hanley

Deedsie wrote: »

I always make my protein shakes with milk! Is it better to make them with water?

TECHNICALLY one could argue that the presence of casein and fat in the milk will slow down the absorption of whey, which is bad post workout. But the effect’s gonna be pretty minimal so it doesn’t really matter.

At other points during the day, this slowing down process is probably good. If you can “afford” the kcals in your diet, you may as well. If you’re trying to lose weight, probably not a great idea.

For the OP, if you want to turn a protein shake into a recovery drink, just have a bottle of lucozade or something after it.

Deedsie

Hanley wrote: »

TECHNICALLY one could argue that the presence of casein and fat in the milk will slow down the absorption of whey, which is bad post workout. But the effect’s gonna be pretty minimal so it doesn’t really matter.

At other points during the day, this slowing down process is probably good. If you can “afford” the kcals in your diet, you may as well. If you’re trying to lose weight, probably not a great idea.

For the OP, if you want to turn a protein shake into a recovery drink, just have a bottle of lucozade or something after it.

Trying to lose the fat around my abs and replace it with muscle. not to bothered about a six pack just want a harder core.

Mellor

Well in hat case, the extra calories from the milk aren't really a great idea

mdc5065

I'll just leave this here...

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=milk+AND+post-workout&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1,39&as_sdtp=on

Pace2008

mdc5065 wrote: »

I'll just leave this here...

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=milk+AND+post-workout&hl=en&btnG=Search&as_sdt=1,39&as_sdtp=on

Would probably help to provide some sort of context for at least one of the articles given that 98% of people aren't trained to assess scientific papers.

Mellor

Mellor wrote: »

Well in hat case, the extra calories from the milk aren't really a great idea

Not that much from skimmed milk though right?

mdc5065

Pace2008 wrote: »

Would probably help to provide some sort of context for at least one of the articles given that 98% of people aren't trained to assess scientific papers.

Luckily Google Scholar isn't entirely for academic articles. There are a few articles right on that first page that are easy reads. Essentially chocolate milk has the 4:1 ratio that every carbohydrate replacement drink strives for. A glass of it within a half hour after your workout is as close to an ideal supply of nutrients as you can get. Much less expensive than the fancy products, too.

Brian?

mdc5065 wrote: »

Luckily Google Scholar isn't entirely for academic articles. There are a few articles right on that first page that are easy reads. Essentially chocolate milk has the 4:1 ratio that every carbohydrate replacement drink strives for. A glass of it within a half hour after your workout is as close to an ideal supply of nutrients as you can get. Much less expensive than the fancy products, too.

I worked this out before, a box of lucozade sport powder and a tub of whey will cost less per litre than buying chocolate milk every time you workout.

mdc5065

briankeating wrote: »

I worked this out before, a box of lucozade sport powder and a tub of whey will cost less per litre than buying chocolate milk every time you workout.

Where do you get your milk?! Family size bottle of chocolate syrup + gallon of milk = ~5 bucks and lasts a week if that's the only time you drink the milk. Now my pricing could be off from being over in the USA for so long but if you're talking about buying prepared chocolate milk of course it'll cost more. That'd be like comparing bottles of milk to RTD protein drinks.

Mellor

bluewolf wrote: »

Not that much from skimmed milk though right?

No skimmed milk still has a few.
Skimmed has less fat that regular milk, but it isn't that high to begin with. the protein and carbs are still there so a litre of skim has about 400 cals vrs 600 in a litre of regular.

mdc5065 wrote: »

Luckily Google Scholar isn't entirely for academic articles. There are a few articles right on that first page that are easy reads. Essentially chocolate milk has the 4:1 ratio that every carbohydrate replacement drink strives for. A glass of it within a half hour after your workout is as close to an ideal supply of nutrients as you can get. Much less expensive than the fancy products, too.

That's all well and good, but the OP is looking to lose weight, so ideal ratios aren't that really as important as cutting out extra colories

mdc5065

Richie_c wrote: »

Hey Boys/Girls

I have a question about the above. Are the basically the same? I've started p90x and the nutrition guide states to drink a recovery drink after workouts and then a protein shake during the day (breakfast or snack) so what I want to know is are they the same? Do I need to buy both or with either suffice

Cheers

Richie

Mellor wrote: »

That's all well and good, but the OP is looking to lose weight, so ideal ratios aren't that really as important as cutting out extra colories

My ultimate point was you get the same if not better recovery from the chocolate milk compared to the protein, and it's significantly fewer calories unless you have one of those no-this-and-that shakes. Also, I never saw anywhere that OP was looking to lose weight. Apologies if that was in a different thread but I missed it.

Mellor

The discussion about milk was in relation to Deedsie

Deedsie wrote: »

I always make my protein shakes with milk! Is it better to make them with water?

Deedsie wrote: »

Trying to lose the fat around my abs and replace it with muscle. not to bothered about a six pack just want a harder core.

mdc5065

Oh I missed that bit, sorry. In that case: lose the protein powder, keep the milk. If your diet is in line already, you'll make good ground just by cutting those calories.