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Eircom Phonewatch GSM dialler

  • 21-02-2011 4:15pm
    #1
    losttheplot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I am looking for some info on the Eircom Phonewatch GSM dialler as I am thinking of moving from vodafone to UPC for broadband and phone. I tried the website but not much there :confused: .

    What model do they use currently?
    And does anyone have an image of it? I recently built a small press around the wireless eircom phonewatch unit and need to know if the dialler will fit or if a new press would be needed.

    Thanks
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  • #2
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    I would not recommend GSM as a secure form of monitoring.
    They can be very easily jammed. In fact most installers I know no longer use them . Our monitoring station will only accept connections if you sign a disclaimer.
    Your UPC connection will work fine for monitoring & would be much more secure than GSM. I would, however, recommend a battery back up on your UPC modem. And also an alarm contact on the access box outside your property if the cable is coming in underground.


  • #3
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,855 ✭✭✭✭altor


    losttheplot wrote: »
    Hi,

    I am looking for some info on the Eircom Phonewatch GSM dialler as I am thinking of moving from vodafone to UPC for broadband and phone. I tried the website but not much there :confused: .

    What model do they use currently?
    And does anyone have an image of it? I recently built a small press around the wireless eircom phonewatch unit and need to know if the dialler will fit or if a new press would be needed.

    Thanks

    They use a New World GSM.
    http://www.new-world-security.com/contents/media/t_nws%20ps%20backup_smal_000.jpg

    P.W. will not monitor the alarm through UPC.

    www.altor.ie



  • #4
    losttheplot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭losttheplot


    altor wrote: »
    They use a New World GSM.
    http://www.new-world-security.com/contents/media/t_nws%20ps%20backup_smal_000.jpg

    P.W. will not monitor the alarm through UPC.


    Thanks for that info.

    I see from the same site that the dimensions are quite big

    * 250x250x80mm * Weight 2.5Kg


  • #5
    losttheplot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭losttheplot


    KoolKid wrote: »
    I would not recommend GSM as a secure form of monitoring.
    They can be very easily jammed. In fact most installers I know no longer use them . Our monitoring station will only accept connections if you sign a disclaimer.
    Your UPC connection will work fine for monitoring & would be much more secure than GSM. I would, however, recommend a battery back up on your UPC modem. And also an alarm contact on the access box outside your property if the cable is coming in underground.

    Thanks for the security warning
    I contacted phonewatch and they confirmed what Altor said re no monitoring through UPC.

    So I suppose this means that Phonewatch GSM is not a viable solution and I would be better off keeping my vodafone landline :( for phone calls and going with upc for broadband


  • #6
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,855 ✭✭✭✭altor


    A GSM is so easy to block that keeping the phone line if well protected is your best option.

    www.altor.ie



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  • #7
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Has anyone asked Eircom why they are happy to sell you an usecure GSM yet refuse to let you use a UPC land line?


  • #8
    losttheplot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭losttheplot


    KoolKid wrote: »
    Has anyone asked Eircom why they are happy to sell you an usecure GSM yet refuse to let you use a UPC land line?


    Just spoke to phonewatch and they seemed to say that if a blocker is used they would not know about it as a test is only run once a week. Does not seem very secure then...

    Looks like I'll have to keep landline even if I get UPC broadband


  • #9
    KoolKid
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    losttheplot wrote: »
    Just spoke to phonewatch and they seemed to say that if a blocker is used they would not know about it as a test is only run once a week. Does not seem very secure then...
    Its not.
    losttheplot wrote: »
    Looks like I'll have to keep landline even if I get UPC broadband
    You should not be forced into this when the UPC line will work perfectly.
    My alarm is monitored that way.
    I have put these questions to Eircom here if you want to follow it.
    Lets see if we can get a logical answer.


  • #10
    altor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,855 ✭✭✭✭altor


    losttheplot wrote: »
    Just spoke to phonewatch and they seemed to say that if a blocker is used they would not know about it as a test is only run once a week. Does not seem very secure then...

    Looks like I'll have to keep landline even if I get UPC broadband


    They should be sending in a signal at a pre-determined time each day, not once a week. In all honesty they should have some type of polling in use with any GSM they install. The way they do it they dont know till a week later if you have any issues till it does not send in the signal.

    I asked one of the lads in there why they dont use UPC and they said its because its not reliable enough. When I asked why they still use GSM he said they have no other solution. He also told me they are not looking into any other form of monitoring at the moment which really surprised me as with the amount of customers they have on GSM. He also said he has not come across any blocker being used on a residential property so they dont think it is less secure. Not a great response from a company thats motto is securing peace of mind.

    www.altor.ie



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