Longest spent on the dole?

yrwhu8jxtni06a

Is there a record for longest time spent on it?,has anyone ever being kicked off eventually,has there being babies grown up and now on it?.

admiralofthefleet

i know a bloke that has been on it since 1983, he doesnt mind admitting that and he sits it in the pub all day, every day drinking, smoking and gambling

born2bwild

What a legend. I love him. I was on the dole in early nineties for two years. Not since - sorry, a month or maybe 3 weeks in 2006. I am stressed, depressed and in so much debt that I now know working is for fools. Someone told me a long time ago: 'It's warmer on the dole'. Never forget.

Oranage2

I've never been on Thankfully - Maybe luck

-Seen families who never worked and now their kids clain the dole.

-I've seen people who are on the Dole that think some jobs are beneath them.

-Not sure I've seen somebody activily seeking employment not get a job

Blatter

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i know a bloke that has been on it since 1983, he doesnt mind admitting that and he sits it in the pub all day, every day drinking, smoking and gambling

And we wonder why our country is up sh1t creek.:rolleyes:

paconnors

My dad knows a fella on the dole since he was 16 my dad is 63 now and your man can smoke and drink 7 days a week.

Yakult

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

And we wonder why our country is up sh1t creek.:rolleyes:

Dont blame the player.

If the system is open to abuse (like it clearly is) people will abuse it. Simple.

Its up to the Social Welfare (or whoever the **** sorts it out) to cop the **** on and take the finger out their ass and do something about people like that.

3ndahalfof6

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

And we wonder why our country is up sh1t creek.:rolleyes:

I had to think about this one but I see what you mean now,

its the governments fault for letting it happen.

Blatter

Yakult wrote: »

Dont blame the player.

If the system is open to abuse (like it clearly is) people will abuse it. Simple.

Its up to the Social Welfare (or whoever the **** sorts it out) to cop the **** on and take the finger out their ass and do something about people like that.

I wasn't blaming the player, I was blaming the manager.:D

minidazzler

Yakult wrote: »

Dont blame the player.

I'll happily blame the player, and at times the parents. It happens in some parts, and I know 2 people who did it, that when they are 18 and leave school their mothers took them to the social welfare to get the dole, One is 20 now, still never worked, the other is 19 nearly 20 and had a job for 2 weeks in an apprenticeship before he quit.

admiralofthefleet

paconnors wrote: »

My dad knows a fella on the dole since he was 16 my dad is 63 now and your man can smoke and drink 7 days a week.

i honestly dont know how they do it, i for one couldnt manage to do it on a wage

ArtSmart

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i know a bloke that has been on it since 1983, he doesnt mind admitting that and he sits it in the pub all day, every day drinking, smoking and gambling

not a bad life. all day . every day.

is it a noddy land pub? or are the beer and fags made of maula?

wiger toods

A lad i went to school with been on it since he was NINETEEN! he must be around my age now ffs. 25/26!:eek: also, he drives a 6 year old merc to boot! fair play to him!

chillywilly

I get satisfaction from doing a days work! I'd say being on the dole long-term would get fairly depressing and demotivating.

minidazzler

ArtSmart wrote: »

not a bad life. all day . every day.

is it a noddy land pub? or are the beer and fags made of maula?

There is a pub in Cork that sells pints for 3 euro until 11pm. SO if it opens at 1230, you can have 10 pints a day at 30 euro. But most people who spend all day like that in a pub actually drink far less than that. So It's not actually impossible, or even improbable to use the dole in that way.

Naikon

People who choose the dole over a job are idiots. Holding down a job and getting money shows you are reliable. Good if you need work somewhere else. Sitting on your ass getting dole money - not so much. Note, this does not apply to people who actually need to be on the dole. When used correctly, there is no shame with the dole. Plenty of people defraud social walfare services I would imagine.

3ndahalfof6

Naikon wrote: »

People who choose the dole over a job are idiots. Holding down a job and getting money shows you are reliable. Good if you need work somewhere else. Sitting on your ass getting dole money - not so much. Note, this does not apply to people who actually need to be on the dole. When used correctly, there is no shame with the dole. Plenty of people defraud social walfare services I would imagine.

signing once a month is being reliable and picking up your money every week on the same day also reliable.

Oranage2

Naikon wrote: »

People who choose the dole over a job are idiots. Holding down a job and getting money shows you are reliable. Good if you need work somewhere else. Sitting on your ass getting dole money - not so much. Note, this does not apply to people who actually need to be on the dole. When used correctly, there is no shame with the dole. Plenty of people defraud the dole, mind you.

And thats the problem, Its a certain class of person that sees the dole as a career.

Though a lot of cases thats are happening no are people are long time un-employed and lose all confidence thus not even seeking employment

And also now we've a generation of graduates who don't actually know how to look for a job.

ArtSmart

minidazzler wrote: »

There is a pub in Cork that sells pints for 3 euro until 11pm. SO if it opens at 1230, you can have 10 pints a day at 30 euro. But most people who spend all day like that in a pub actually drink far less than that. So It's not actually impossible, or even improbable to use the dole in that way.

it also not actually impossible to live on one's fingernail clippings.




twill be some fun if FG get into power. ah well, we tried the FF gorging, now we might as well go for the scape-goating. what was good enough for the Brits under Thatcher...

Oranage2

ArtSmart wrote: »

it also not actually impossible to live on one's fingernail clippings.




twill be some fun if FG get into power. ah well, we tried the FF gorging, now we might as well go for the scape-goating. what was good enough for the Brits under Thatcher...

I'd be almost sure that a lie!

GoldRush4821

You couldn't pay me to go on the dole... wait what?

Yakult

minidazzler wrote: »

I'll happily blame the player, and at times the parents. It happens in some parts, and I know 2 people who did it, that when they are 18 and leave school their mothers took them to the social welfare to get the dole, One is 20 now, still never worked, the other is 19 nearly 20 and had a job for 2 weeks in an apprenticeship before he quit.

Thats sad I know, but once again its the poor system they have in place.
Let me guess, the mother wasnt working, drawing the dole for many years without question and then those young guys see the same oppertunity.
Free money for long periods of time without question. Win win.

Danbo!

I've been on it for almost 4 months now. I'm 26 and have been working since 14. Had a part time job during school and college and worked any spare time I had including working full time during the summers. I finished my college exams on a Thursday and started work the following Monday.

When I heard I was getting the boot I panicked a bit, but at first it was a nice break from work I'll admit, could do stuff during the week, no getting up at 6.30, etc etc but that wore thin very very quickly when the redundancy money ran out. 188 a week isnt much with bills to pay, I don't have kids or a mortgage, so Ive no idea how anyone with a house and family is coping, luckily for me i can move back to my parents house to save money. While I don't want to, I count myself lucky that it's an option.

I havent a ****ing clue how anyone could do this long term (as in years). I've never been so bored and unmotivated in my life.

Faith+1

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

signing once a month is being reliable and picking up your money every week on the same day also reliable.

They have increased the signing day from one month to every three months. So they've lost some responsibility there . They've 8 free days a year now.

pragmatic1

Half the population where I live were on the dole up until fairly recently. They were also working, poaching and doing whatever they could to get more money.

landsleaving

I was on the dole for a bit. By the time they'd sorted out my application I was back working. But I did enjoy getting a nice big cheque for doing nothing to be honest. I could see how that would be appealing. Personally I can't sit still so I'd get bored out of work and try make stuff to do.

In the end though, I'll only work to live, as in I'll work so I can have a reasonably fulfilling personal life. If I thought I could do that without working, why wouldn't I? Especially if I wasn't very self-motivated.

Aoifey!

My father has been on the dole my whole life (18 years), although he did have 1 day a week work for about a year but he was still on it part time. Before my parents got married my mother was on the dole. But the whole "poverty trap" of if your parents were on it you will is bull to me, my brother has a college degree and I am now in college - there's always a way to overcome things, I hate people saying they can't go to college because their parents were on the dole, that's why grants were invented. That's just an excuse.

Numina

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

And we wonder why our country is up sh1t creek.:rolleyes:

You're right, that man is single handedly responsible for this countrys downfall.

Naikon

Numina wrote: »

You're right, that man is single handedly responsible for this countrys downfall.

I take it you have not heard of the term Inference?

[Jackass]

I don't know what you're all complaining about, I think the dole is well fair.

Tinie

born2bwild wrote: »

What a legend. I love him. I was on the dole in early nineties for two years. Not since - sorry, a month or maybe 3 weeks in 2006. I am stressed, depressed and in so much debt that I now know working is for fools. Someone told me a long time ago: 'It's warmer on the dole'. Never forget.

:rolleyes:

signing once a month is being reliable and picking up your money every week on the same day also reliable.

This HAS to be sarcasm, if not....

Senna

Professional dole recipients are nothing but pariahs leaching of the system. The dole is there to help people in trouble, not as a substitute for work. I dont believe any government will tackle this issue, its a problem during recessionary times but its the worst time to do anything to fix it, and during times of prosper, any attempt to fix it will be met with strong objections from liberal do-gooders.

AskMyChocolate

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

i know a bloke that has been on it since 1983, he doesnt mind admitting that and he sits it in the pub all day, every day drinking, smoking and gambling

He must be a hell of a gambler.

seanybiker

I know a few people who are on it since they where old enough to claim it and are more than happy to admit to never wanting to work. I'm on disability myself and even though my problem is possibly a lifelong problem I would love to be off it.

AFC_1903

Danbo! wrote: »

I've been on it for almost 4 months now. I'm 26 and have been working since 14. Had a part time job during school and college and worked any spare time I had including working full time during the summers. I finished my college exams on a Thursday and started work the following Monday.

When I heard I was getting the boot I panicked a bit, but at first it was a nice break from work I'll admit, could do stuff during the week, no getting up at 6.30, etc etc but that wore thin very very quickly...

...I havent a ****ing clue how anyone could do this long term (as in years). I've never been so bored and unmotivated in my life.

I''m in a similar situation except I'm 29 this week and returned to Ireland to live and work again in after my work on mainland Europe finished. I was lead to believe that Ireland was starting to recover... :mad:

The only work I have managed to get has been unpaid and not working is driving me mad. I've worked since I was a small child (I'm from a farming background) and not working is causing me to be, like you, bored and unmotivated but it's also been really been getting me down. I'm trying to fight my way out of it but it's hard at times.

On a more positive note, I've promised myself that I WILL get a job in the next month, and I am working out a rough plan of my self-taught education for the next 6 months. Positivity is good, and I really need to hang on to the bit of momentum I currently have, but I know if I don't get something soon I'll go mad. Again.

cathpa

Hold on since when has the sign on day been every 3 months and not once a month?

on a similar note when does the new sign on by text message kick in?

Thundercats Ho

I was on the dole for a couple of months during last summer.
I had a holiday booked before the company i was working for closed.

I went into the dole office to see what would happen if i was out of the country on holiday for the week.
I was told not to worry, was given a holiday application form! and as i wouldn't be around to pick up the dole during my holiday, was given a double week on my return.

giant_midget

It baffles me how someone can be let stay claiming dole for more than a few years..People who don't contribute to society should not get paid out of societys purse!

The town where i live you see a lot of these loosers (balbriggan), lads in the early 50's parading around in faded denim jackets and cheap pointy leather shoes with a rinse in the hair and sideburns to sustain that "youthfull look"

They all sit on the bench outside the courthouse staring at people/cars going by them, Absolute scum and loosers they are. They are no use to this country and if they were horses, they would be put down!

Duggy747

Being on the dole is boring shìt which is why I'm doing FÁS courses and a WPP1 job, just so I can build up my qualifications and stop me from going nuts.

While €188 is generous to be handed every week it doesn't leave me with a lot after food / bills / rent at the end of a week so I'm saving very little bit by bit.

I miss a decent wage

reverenddave

chillywilly wrote: »

I get satisfaction from doing a days work! I'd say being on the dole long-term would get fairly depressing and demotivating.

i'm nearly over 2 years o the dole now

and you're dead right it's without a shadow of a doubt THE WORST time of my life.

luckily i found some courses to do ,and still retain the dole

Faith+1

cathpa wrote: »

Hold on since when has the sign on day been every 3 months and not once a month?

My friend signs on in the Navan Road office. He was told last week that he doesn't have to sign on again until May. The reason for this is because the Social Welfare offices are understaffed and cannot cope with the demands of people signing on every month. Having a recruitment freeze doesn't exactly help matters either.

God I love this country.:rolleyes:

3ndahalfof6

Faith+1 wrote: »

My friend signs on in the Navan Road office. He was told last week that he doesn't have to sign on again until May. The reason for this is because the Social Welfare offices are understaffed and cannot cope with the demands of people signing on every month. Having a recruitment freeze doesn't exactly help matters either.

God I love this country.:rolleyes:

So do people just a plane hop away, I hear they work in the UK and go home once a month to sign on and collect there bounty which is use to help pay for the pad they bought in the UK,

now that you only sign on once every three months at least they will be able to save the price of two plane trips,

Faith+1

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

So do people just a plane hop away, I hear they work in the UK and go home once a month to sign on and collect there bounty which is use to help pay for the pad they bought in the UK,

now that you only sign on once every three months at least they will be able to save the price of two plane trips,

Not exactly sure on that one, but I do know people in the bordering counties sign on in the south because of our very generous rates. There was some town in cavan that had 12,500 people signing on when the population was there was only 5,000!

[Jackass]

[Jackass] wrote: »

I don't know what you're all complaining about, I think the dole is well fair.

I'm hearing ya bro'

Ironman76

I was on it when i left school for 18 months. Have been working ever since and im 35 now. Getting canned next week and Im dreading it. Been in my current job 10 months. Oddly enough though Ive never had more going for me than I do now as I have a good qualification and experience in a decent industry.

As someone said, the free time sounds good but Id imagine that novelty quickly wears off. Also I called querying rent allowance last week and yer man was a complete w**ker on the phone.

Im giving it 6 months, nothing going then ill be out of here.

Chris P. Bacon

A friend of mine is on it since he was 18 he's about 27 now and he has no intention of working for the rest of his life,he gets about €300+ a week that's including rent allowance,the way he looks at it is why get off it when he can clearly survive on it.

I remember on a very hot day last year during the summer,he calls into me at around 12:30 on a Tuesday,i was working evenings that week starting at 14:00,he doesn't have a car so he's in looking for me to go to the beach for the day,so he says what you up to for the day "ah im working at 2 boy",'WHAT!! your working today','sure the sun is splitting the rocks outside',"yeah i know but i still have to work no matter if its sunny or not.He just couldn't understand a person working on a hot summers day,so he just went drinking cans somewhere for the day!

squeakyduck

I left my last job in May last year, had to give two weeks notice to my previous job and my new job let me have a week off before I started. 3 weeks of nothing. The first week was ok, the second week I went on holiday, third week I was crawling the walls I was so bored.

I couldn't live on the dole, not enough money and I'd be SOOOO bored.

Asphyxia

When I finished school I went on the dole for a couple of months it was helpful I was able to give my parents some money and save. Some people just take advantage and have intension of doing anything... pretty sad really.

I started a course and work in a playschool but the hours aren't always the best so I had to go on BTEA until June. I'm not ashamed of it though because i'm still getting up and doing something unlike others.

jackiebaron

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

And we wonder why our country is up sh1t creek.:rolleyes:

Yeah, like a few dole birds caused the Irish financial markets to melt down!

Get a grip!

ScumLord

Yakult wrote: »

Dont blame the player.

If the system is open to abuse (like it clearly is) people will abuse it. Simple.

QFT.

The human animal is adept at analysing systems and finding ways of benefiting from it. It's what we do and once they've found a comfortable way of benefiting from something they will go to great lengths to protect it as any other animal on the planet would.

When dealing with people as a whole they should be seen as animals and their animal behaviour should be taken into account when developing systems.

spoofilyj

I've never been on the Dole, but appreciate that people get into situations where they need help for a while to get back on their feet.

I worked all the way through school and college and when I finished college and found getting a job applicable to my degree difficult I worked as a monager of a 4 Star Pizza resraunt for a six months. Did me the world of good and got me nice and motivated to find work.

I worked for two years in an investment Bank then Lehman Bro's collapsed and within three months was made redundant. Was very scared as had bought a new car and renting a house but with hard work and lots of luck
I applied for 400 jobs in two weeks and got one interview and got that job and two years on I'm laughing.

I think its tough for people long term on the dole to snap out of it and get the motivation to keep applying for jobs, I have several friends who have been on the dole for the last two years and the constant feeling of rejection for failed applications can get to you after a while.
Lots are just emigrating as they are sick of either being under or over qualifed for jobs.