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Irish Motorshow 2011-Tickets
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19-02-2011 1:26pm#1
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I was hoping to go and relive the experience from childhood.
All those shiny new cars.
Plastic bags full of brochures for Ford Cortina Cashels, Renault 18's, Fiat Ritmo's, STP stickers, NGK sparplugs sticker.
Hats made from paper with the head part made from spiral cut outs.
This time I may spend more time looking at the scanty ladies than the cars.
You've obviously got a few years on me! Was Sierra's, Cavaliers, Fiestas and Metro's for me as a small boy. By god did I come away with some amount of brochures and manufacturer branded plastic bags
There have been various cr@ppy motor shows in Ireland over the past few years, but there hasn't been an official "Irish Motor Show" for quite some time.
I went to the Drogheda Motor Show when it was on last year with very low expectations, but was very impressed how professionally it was done, so have fairly high expectations of this.
It's backed by the manufacturer's rather than a few dealers, so there should a decent and varied display - hopefully with lots of brochures and branded plastic bags
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Just back from this. Excellent turn out from the manufacturers...although little in the way of concept cars.
Read in a few places that the Scirocco R would be there....but it was only a Scirocco R-line. Glad I got my ticket on citydeal for €6.50 rather than €12. Star of the show for me was the Fabia RS (only cause I've bought one
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Went this evening; got free tickets from someone outside the door would you believe!
The show wasn't bad at all. There were none of the concept cars that were promised but all the very latest models that are barely in the showrooms were present. I couldn't get over how all the cars on the Audi stand were locked.:rolleyes:
+1. Only stand to have the cars locked. W4nkers. Makes you feel like a grubby kid when you can't get in. Did you also notice that they had no A3 on the stand? A1, A4, A5 (RS5 actually I think), A8... but their second best seller I'd imagine wasn't represented, and a car which in 1.6TDi guise (band A) could become their best seller.
They did give the kids a couple of free toy cars though so not all bad I suppose.
Did I miss them or were BMW and Merc not represented? Had the kids so it's possible I missed them.
In general, I enjoyed it from the point of view of being able to browse lots of mainstream cars in one place, as we'll probably be in the market next year for a new uber-efficient diesel. Quality of the new Opels impressed me I must say, as did the Mazda 6.
One serious flaw was the majority of the "staff" were clueless. I knew more than any of them I spoke to bar the Saab guys who were easily the best of all I spoke to. I wonder were most of them promotions staff hired for the day by the companies, rather than dealer sales people. One chap at the Opel stand told me the Insignia didn't come in hatchback, that I'd have to buy an Astra if I wanted a hatch. Then he hands me an Insignia brochure with prices for the Insignia hatch. :rolleyes:
Most of the others had no clue regarding specs, prices, and in particular options. "We can take your name etc..". Very unimpressed from that perspective, but overall I enjoyed it, and the kids with bags of freebies brought back memories of myself and my Dad walking around the same venue in the 70s and 80s looking at Cortinas and Datsuns and going home with paper Ford flags and STP stickers. 0 -
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How do they manage to display the cars at all the official motorshows then? I was at London a couple of years ago and they served food there too.
In fairness they can just write any damage to those cars off as they are huge multinationals making billions of euro profit a year. This is local distributor funded and a lot of the companies in Ireland are loss making.Puke!
Lexus had no problem letting 'ordinary' people into their cars to check them out.
Is that not the whole point of a motor show?
Audi's a **** car anyway :P
Nice! The only cars we were particular about were the RS5 and A8. 1/4 of a million between the two of them. If you owned them would you let every kid that got into the car test the durability of the indicator stalks or pull the pop up MMI screen out of place or try and pull the light switch off the dash? I found one trying to smash the buttons on the radio. Poor parenting as well leaving unsupervised kids into cars.+1. Only stand to have the cars locked. W4nkers. Makes you feel like a grubby kid when you can't get in. Did you also notice that they had no A3 on the stand? A1, A4, A5 (RS5 actually I think), A8... but their second best seller I'd imagine wasn't represented, and a car which in 1.6TDi guise (band A) could become their best seller.
They did give the kids a couple of free toy cars though so not all bad I suppose.
Nice again. We were possibly one of only a couple of brands there to put in the extra effort to offer something different to all the dross you see in showrooms here normally and this is the response you get. Seriously - your attitude stinks. 2 cars were locked to kids the other 3 were opened on request. If they were your 5 cars on stand worth nearly 400k what would you do? Its so f*cking easy sitting there being a keyboard warrior. The interiors of expensive cars are no place for unsupervised kids to be - i dont give a f*ck what you say.
And in fairness - most people know about the A3 - we wanted to use it to showcase our newest cars - A1/A7/A8/RS5 and our biggest seller the A4. No matter what you do someone will always give out. If we had shown the A3, someone would be looking for an A7.
I found this too. They were the only guys who were in any way knowledgeable about their product and had real enthusiasm for the brand.
They gave me a free t-shirt.:)
I was talking to a guy about the Superb Estate and he was largely clueless about it. He just asked me for my details and said he would send me a brochure.
At least 4 of the brands i know of there hired in attractive agency staff to draw the punters in. Skoda were one of them.0 -
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Nice again. We were possibly one of only a couple of brands there to put in the extra effort to offer something different to all the dross you see in showrooms here normally and this is the response you get. Seriously - your attitude stinks. 2 cars were locked to kids the other 3 were opened on request. If they were your 5 cars on stand worth nearly 400k what would you do? Its so f*cking easy sitting there being a keyboard warrior. The interiors of expensive cars are no place for unsupervised kids to be - i dont give a f*ck what you say.
Thanks for that.
My attitude stinks? So wanting to sit in a car, feel the quality of it, see the boot size, look at the options is not something the Audi team wanted to let people do? As a potential customer, I do not want to ask permission to sit in a car in what was effectively a large showroom!
As regards showing something different - There is absolutely no reason you could not have done both - show something a little special and show the mainstream models you have for sale.
If you don't want kids climbing into the cars, you're best off not having a stand at a show where large groups of families attend.
Keyboard warrior? What are you on about? I expressed my disappointment on the lack of the A3 to one of the staff on the stand. Complete waste of time.And in fairness - most people know about the A3 - we wanted to use it to showcase our newest cars - A1/A7/A8/RS5 and our biggest seller the A4. No matter what you do someone will always give out. If we had shown the A3, someone would be looking for an A7.
Of course people know about the A3 - it's easy to get information on cars online these days. The great thing about a show is you can see and feel the cars all in once place - that's one of the reasons people go.
By the way, I have two A4s, and we are planning to replace the older one next year with an eco-diesel, hence I was interested to look at the A3 1.6TDi. I was able to take a look at - and get in to - some very impressive (and cheaper) alternatives like the Golf, the Octavia and the Astra - so it seems a real shame that someone like myself who likes Audis wasn't able to see one in the flesh.
Seriously, take a leaf out of the Saab guys books. Friendly, knowledgeable and knew what they were at.0 -
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In fairness they can just write any damage to those cars off as they are huge multinationals making billions of euro profit a year. This is local distributor funded and a lot of the companies in Ireland are loss making.
Nice! The only cars we were particular about were the RS5 and A8. 1/4 of a million between the two of them. If you owned them would you let every kid that got into the car test the durability of the indicator stalks or pull the pop up MMI screen out of place or try and pull the light switch off the dash? I found one trying to smash the buttons on the radio. Poor parenting as well leaving unsupervised kids into cars.
Nice again. We were possibly one of only a couple of brands there to put in the extra effort to offer something different to all the dross you see in showrooms here normally and this is the response you get. Seriously - your attitude stinks. 2 cars were locked to kids the other 3 were opened on request. If they were your 5 cars on stand worth nearly 400k what would you do? Its so f*cking easy sitting there being a keyboard warrior. The interiors of expensive cars are no place for unsupervised kids to be - i dont give a f*ck what you say.
And in fairness - most people know about the A3 - we wanted to use it to showcase our newest cars - A1/A7/A8/RS5 and our biggest seller the A4. No matter what you do someone will always give out. If we had shown the A3, someone would be looking for an A7.
At least 4 of the brands i know of there hired in attractive agency staff to draw the punters in. Skoda were one of them.
You are actually making a show of yourself and of your business.
If it was my company and I came onto a message forum and saw how completely and utterly unprofessional one of my staff members was being to some criticism, I would be furious.
Why are acting so aggressive and cursing at people who are showing an opinion? And as can be seen from above, these are not just random people who want to play with buttons, they are potential customers. With the way the car industry is at the moment, the last thing you need to be doing is alienating potential customers......0 -
Quite tired last night after 7 days straight working
Even still, I stand by how we operated the stand. No offence meant to anyone and if I offended anyone, apologies. If we knew beforehand the stand would be mauraded by gangs of unsupervised kids we might have changed our product line up to something more mainstream, but it is nice to show off exotica at the same time.
Its a real difficult balancing act to be honest. Put yourselves in our position and tell me how you would have reacted.0 -
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Quite tired last night after 7 days straight working
Even still, I stand by how we operated the stand. No offence meant to anyone and if I offended anyone, apologies. If we knew beforehand the stand would be mauraded by gangs of unsupervised kids we might have changed our product line up to something more mainstream, but it is nice to show off exotica at the same time.
Its a real difficult balancing act to be honest. Put yourselves in our position and tell me how you would have reacted.
Well lets suppose a prospective customer asked to sit inside a A8 for example would the car have been opened for him/her???0 -
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Chris, I don't think it was getting out of control or anything, but I appreciate that feedback can get back to employers etc.. so I've not problem in leaving it there, plus RedorDead did apologise which is decent of him.
It was just more general feedback and not anything personal. No personal offence intended from me either and I hope none was taken.
But this feedback has to be good for distributors to get, no? To focus on the positives, it was great to be able to hop into cars and have a good look around without having to get permission. I had the kids (supervised I might add ) and they could hop in the back also. I just felt the Audi stand was too flashy but very unwelcoming, that's all - and given there were lots of families there, I felt the family sellers (especially eco-diesels which are all the rage) should have been there as well as the exotica.
I could be wrong on this, but was there two A1s on the stand? Why not have one A1 and an A3? Either way, there was enough room for another small car there imo.
Finally, the Audi lads must have known there'd be families with young kids there, as they even had the little Audi "My First License" test track set-up with go-karts for the kids. In as nice a way as possible, I don't buy that they didn't realise there's be so many kids/families there.0 -
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Chris, I don't think it was getting out of control or anything, but I appreciate that feedback can get back to employers etc.. so I've not problem in leaving it there, plus RedorDead did apologise which is decent of him.
It was just more general feedback and not anything personal. No personal offence intended from me either and I hope none was taken.
But this feedback has to be good for distributors to get, no? To focus on the positives, it was great to be able to hop into cars and have a good look around without having to get permission. I had the kids (supervised I might add ) and they could hop in the back also. I just felt the Audi stand was too flashy but very unwelcoming, that's all - and given there were lots of families there, I felt the family sellers (especially eco-diesels which are all the rage) should have been there as well as the exotica.
I could be wrong on this, but was there two A1s on the stand? Why not have one A1 and an A3? Either way, there was enough room for another small car there imo.
Finally, the Audi lads must have known there'd be families with young kids there, as they even had the little Audi "My First License" test track set-up with go-karts for the kids. In as nice a way as possible, I don't buy that they didn't realise there's be so many kids/families there.
All feedback is good feedback so thanks. We knew of course there would be kids there which we tried to cater for with our kids first licence area (which was a huge success with 1 kid a minute going through on Saturday). What we didnt expect is that a lot of the kids at the show would be unsupervised and rambling around in groups of 3 or 4. PauloMN, i am sure if you had a 125k car sitting there you wouldnt be particularly excited about seeing kids mauling the inside of the car. We did let parents and supervised kids into cars however.
No, only one A1 there along with A4, RS5, A8 and A7. R8 spyder outside and R15TDI and R8 E-Tron in Legends area and Electric Avenue respectively.
This might seem like a funny question, but how did the stand feel unwelcoming? Is it the locked cars you refer to or something else. Also how was it flashy?
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All feedback is good feedback so thanks. We knew of course there would be kids there which we tried to cater for with our kids first licence area (which was a huge success with 1 kid a minute going through on Saturday). What we didnt expect is that a lot of the kids at the show would be unsupervised and rambling around in groups of 3 or 4. PauloMN, i am sure if you had a 125k car sitting there you wouldnt be particularly excited about seeing kids mauling the inside of the car. We did let parents and supervised kids into cars however.
No, only one A1 there along with A4, RS5, A8 and A7. R8 spyder outside and R15TDI and R8 E-Tron in Legends area and Electric Avenue respectively.
This might seem like a funny question, but how did the stand feel unwelcoming? Is it the locked cars you refer to or something else. Also how was it flashy?
Thanks,
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I stand corrected on the A1, didn't have enough coffee in me at that stage.
Regarding your question: So I'd been to a few other stands by the time I got to the Audi stand, as Audi were at the back. I'd said to the wife I wanted her to see the Astra, the Altea, the Golf etc. (all in 1.6 or 1.7 TDi guise) and said we must see the A3 also (seeing as she drives an A4 and likes it).
So we'd been in and out of all the others, poking and prodding as Volvoman says, checking the size of them, the boot etc.. and liked some of what we saw. When we got to the Audi stand, it looked very well (that's what I mean by "flashy") with the A8, the RS5 and the new A1 was funky looking - enough diversity to attract attention. First I tried to get into the A8 just to experience a car I'll probably never have as it's a beautiful looking beast - it was locked. After being able to hop into every other car up to then, first thing that comes to mind is "FFS!", so I decide to walk around and see where the A3 is to show her good-self.
No A3 I could see, so I ask one of the ladies there "have you an A3 somewhere we could look at?". "No, sorry, we don't have one here". "Oh" I say.... "well... erm... OK, ehm... thanks, I think".
So being the only stand I came across, and not having one of their most mainstream (family friendly) models to look at which I really wanted to look at, I was a bit peeved at that stage.
I thought from that perspective it was unwelcoming, but mainly the locked cars. When you have been able to hop in and out of everything else, and all of a sudden can't open a car, you just feel like you shouldn't be touching anything, and you immediately get a kind of "f**k you" feeling. Might not bother some people, but for some reason it absolutely bugs the crap out of me. I just think locked cars in a showroom is a really bad sales approach.
As for the 125k car thing, of course not, because it would be my private car. But a car in a showroom should be available to look at without making adults feel like kids having to ask "please, can I have a go?". I know there's a certain (very small imo) risk of cars getting damaged, but there's a much bigger risk of people not liking the initial interaction enough (of locked cars) to simply walk away. Once you've asked a sales person to let you into a car, I personally feel I can't look at that car like I would be able to on my own.0 -
@ Volvoman - not even rising to it.
@ Paulo - fair enough - I can see it from your perspective and understand where you are coming from. If i was you, I would probably think the same. We started with good intentions of allowing people into cars as much as possible but following a close call with the A8 on Friday with an unsupervised kid we had to go to plan B which we didnt want to do.
We only had 5 spaces for cars on our stand and with such a large model range it is never going to be possible to please everyone. With 35 different models, it is difficult to pick and choose what is going to please everyone. With hindsight maybe we should have gone with more entry models and parked the high end stuff, but hindsight is 20/20 and we learn from our mistakes. I am sure if we loaded our stand with A3's and A4's we would still get complaints that we put nothing flash on it so you cannot win really.
I know you keep mentioning showroom, but it wasnt really like a normal showroom, so normal showroom rules didnt apply.0 -
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