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EGAR

After Labour and FG (if elected they will reverse the ban on the carted stag hunting etc) I nearly fell off my chair when I saw this:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/John-Boland-General-Election-2011/177686595609867


Jeez, I should have run too...

The Sweeper

Even if you just look at his photograph.

Seriously. Would you support someone who took a photograph like that and decided 'Jeez I look good here' and posted it on their FB page? FFS.

mymo

I see he lists himself as a builder and Farmer:(
No mention of what he farms:mad:

The Sweeper

See he's closed his FB wall to new posts and deleted the 'you're a disgrace' posts in the last hour.

What can I say - except have the sense to stay off the social networking sites when you have a dirty secret you can't defend, you thick fucker.

EGAR

The Sweeper wrote: »

See he's closed his FB wall to new posts and deleted the 'you're a disgrace' posts in the last hour.

What can I say - except have the sense to stay off the social networking sites when you have a dirty secret you can't defend, you thick fucker.

PMSL!!!!

Discodog

Well Fine Gael claim that they will introduce new animal welfare law & reintroduce stag hunting

The Paws

what did he do? I missed out the above.




(ps what's PMSL stands for!)

mymo

The more I look into it the worse it looks, I try and vote based on the individual and party policies, but its hard to find a candidate I am willing to support.
I will keep looking.

And EGAR, I'd vote for you:D

@ the paws, He's probably Irelands most famous puppy farmer.

EGAR

Discodog wrote: »

Well Fine Gael claim that they will introduce new animal welfare law & reintroduce stag hunting

Don't you get it, DD? After reading their reply to me several times it dawned to me what they are aiming at: that the animals they use to rip other animals apart are healthy.

The Paws

Discodog wrote: »

Well Fine Gael claim that they will introduce new animal welfare law & reintroduce stag hunting

Unbelieveable....

EGAR

The Paws wrote: »

what did he do? I missed out the above.




(ps what's PMSL stands for!)

http://www.pedigreedogs.ie/blog/2010/05/01/cowen-took-up-case-of-disgraced-puppy-farm/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1050747/How-tiny-handbag-dogs-bred-conditions-horrific-cruelty.html


PMSL = Peeing MySelf Laughing.

The Paws

Thanks EGAR! (I only know LOL! But I am learning something new today!)

God thats really horrible and sad. It is great that someone out there managed to dig up his background to show what he is really like....

Shanao

FB page is gone but people can still comment on journal.ie http://www.thejournal.ie/election-candidates-2011/laois-offaly/john-boland/
Man, I would love to be in this guys constituency. Imagine if he came canvassing to your door?

The Sweeper

Does John Boland win a prize for the fastest ever brief encounter with social networking?

'I posted meself on facebook, but nobody likes me so I deleted the page.'
'That's terrible, John, how many days were you on Facebook?'
'...days?'

ppink

I emailed FG [EMAIL="enda.kenny@finegael"]enda.kenny@finegael[/EMAIL].​ie - they confirmed they will introduce the stag hunting again immediately but are very concerned for outdated animal welfare laws- I pointed out the irony and they will pass to their party spokesman.:rolleyes:

then i heard Pete the vet

http://petethevet.blogspot.com/2011/02/animal-issues-in-irish-general-election.html

press play on VETelection.mp3

I cannot believe this Boland guy- we are such morons to elect paddy local in this country that if he was elected it would not surprise me. What qualifications has this guy for running a country?!

koneko

He's a disgusting excuse for a human being :mad:

You'd have to have all of your screws loose to vote for him.

crally

"I can get you whatever type of pup you want,’ Mr Boland’s father boasted to one customer recently. ‘We are all in it to make money. The more pups we sell, the better.’”Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1050747/How-tiny-handbag-dogs-bred-conditions-horrific-cruelty.html#ixzz1EGBGzA4R


John Boland · TheJournal.ie
http://www.thejournal.ie/ John Boland

Discodog

Gilmore has just confirmed that Labour will oppose any attempt to reverse the Stag hunting ban as proposed by Fine Gael.

Oh & the Dog Breeding Bill was not signed into law - bet Mr Boland is delighted.

Sassy58

Guys - I made it my misson last night to hound that fecker John Boland - he doesn't like me and I am so going to loose sleep over him lol not - he blocked us all from his facebook and removed all our posts but if you go on to

http://www.thejournal.ie/election-candidates-2011/longford-westmeath/john-bloand/

all the candidates have a blog there and he is included as one of the independents - you can post your comments there - a few fo us have already - seems he failed to let ppl know he is one of the biggest puppy farmers in europe - there was also a piece about John Boland in The Sunday Times on the 10th June, 2007 by John Mooney

Cole

Discodog wrote: »

Gilmore has just confirmed that Labour will oppose any attempt to reverse the Stag hunting ban as proposed by Fine Gael.

On Pat Kenny's show? I heard that, but I was hoping that the caller would also ask him why Labour voted against the ban in the first place.

I heard him say, in a previous radio interview, that he responded in "political kind" to the then government bill. I interpreted that as meaning that Labour voted against the bill because it was a FF/Green proposal, not based on any beliefs or principles that he or Labour have on animal welfare issues (I don't think they have any). They're utterly shameful........as are Fine Gael for pledging to reverse the ban and for voting against the dog breeding bill.

The worst aspect of all of this is that both parties (but particularly Labour, who have championed animal welfare issues in the past) have gotten away with playing the most blatant, cynical political game for votes. Labour were going to vote against the dog breeding bill, but I think only voted for it at the last minute because they sensed the public were starting to cop on to the political games they were playing.

As has been said here before, animal welfare is such a non issue amongst most of the electorate, but I'm disappointed in the media for not grilling the likes of Gilmore on their hypocrisy.

As for Boland, he's not going to get a seat but his increased profile may make more people aware of his immoral 'business'.

Owen curran

What a bunch of spineless clowns ye all are! John Boland this John Boland that! I bet not one of ye ever met him! Not one of ye were ever on his property! And ye all on the Internet hiding behind user names! I'm here using my real name, and I have met John Boland(only once)! What I do know about the man is that if someone does work for him he pays! John and all his family are hard working honest people! So stop hiding behind user names on the Internet, and slating a man you never met! For gods sake giving out about dog breeding! What about the poor sheep! A ewe is put in lamb every year for profit! Or the cow, the poor fecking cow is put in calf every year to produce milk! As soon as her calf is born it's taken away! Causing stress on both cow and calf! The cow is forced to live in a shed with maybe 100 other cows! And all this with thousands of gallons of their own poo in a tank underneath them! And all this is done for............shock horror MONEY!Farming is farming and farming by it's nature exploits the animals been used! ! I'm not a dog breeder or a farmer btw! Just sick of ye slating this man! He'd be a breath of fresh air!

EGAR

You have met him only once yet you feel the urge to register here and post on his behalf..? Aye...;)

Click on my profile and you get my website. EGAR = East Galway Animal Rescue - I belong to the people who have fought for a long time to get the likes of John Boland and Co closed down. He is a disgrace.

Discodog

So you have met him once, done some work & this qualifies you to give a detailed opinion ?. Sounds like you know him as well as any Taxi driver. How do you know that none of us know him or have been on his property ?. Agricultural animals are subjected to rigorous scrutiny unlike puppy farms. A dog has totally different health & environmental requirements to an agricultural animal.

If Mr Boland looks after his animals then he would open the doors & welcome anyone to inspect his dogs. He would welcome the DBEB instead of opposing it. No one would buy a puppy if they knew that it had been bred in a puppy farm which is why he sells to dealers & middle men.

You accuse us of hiding yet Mr Boland hides his puppies behind high fences & CCTV. When RTE did their program on Puppy Farming Mr Boland refused to take part - what is he hiding. Most of Europe regard Mr Boland's activities as animal cruelty & most here agree.

Paul T Barry

What your fail to understand Owen is that Lambs and Calves don't need to be socilaised in the first 8 - 10 weeks of their lives in order to have any kind of normal existence going forward. Pups do, and ones that are kept in facilities where there are up to 1000 breeding bitches,can't possibly get the care and attention / socialisation with humans and everyday occurrences they need. Fact! The animals you talk about have been raised on farms for years, dogs have been domesticated for years. I think thousands of years of evolution should indicate what animals should be raised on farms and which one's shouldn't

EGAR

And just because Owen posted so nicely, here is another link:

http://sites.google.com/site/puppyalert/puppyfarmingsireland


Still no puke smilie....just imagine one.

Discodog

Oh I think that "Owen" understands this perfectly well .

Shanao

Owen curran wrote: »

What a bunch of spineless clowns ye all are!

Who exactly are the spineless clowns here? The people fighting day in, day out for better welfare for our animals, the people who live side by side with their dogs, pay out hundreds every year to guarantee their health and happiness, or the people who breed innocent animals to death for profit, ignoring medical issues and enviromental enrichment? Maybe you should think about that one for a while

Feargal as Luimneach

EGAR wrote: »

And just because Owen posted so nicely, here is another link:

http://sites.google.com/site/puppyalert/puppyfarmingsireland


Still no puke smilie....just imagine one.

Any sheep/cattle farmer can have farm inspections at any time. If conditions are not right for his/her stock his single farm payments will be affected. If Boland is confident that his dogs are in suitable conditions why not invite Department officials in and inspect the place. Simples!

EGAR

Even rescues in receipt of the Department of Agri grant agree to have regular inspections as a condition of the application.

Owen curran

So when a suckler cow is separated from a calf and the both cry and bawl for a couple days or more, this is not cruel? Come on, of cousre its cruel. But its farming so it makes it fine! I met him once(fact) ! None of ye know him yet comment on his personality! I live 5 miles from him and the general feeling of John Boland in the area is positive! And if his place is as bad as it is made out to be surely the powers that be could close him down! Only conclusion I can come to is that it's not near as bad as ye folks make out! None of ye know me either so don't make assumptions on why I posted here! I have my reasons and they have nothing to do with John Boland ! This forum is like an on line pub! Plenty of people giving out about others with no foundations to what they say! Regards folks!

mymo

There is a big difference between a cow or sheep and a dog.

Dogs have been domesticated to live WITH humans, not in a field with little contact.

Farmers have regular inspections of all livestock, regular health checks to prevent disease, and there are rules about the keeping of these animals.

Puppy farmers have no rules and regs to follow, no health checks required.

There is a huge difference.

EGAR

I am very sorry but your second post makes even less sense than you first:

I have my reasons and they have nothing to do with John Boland !

Anyhow, back the subject at hand: John Boland and Co and the immoral exploitation of dogs and Ireland being the Puppy Mill capital of Europe.

BTW, since we are speaking of Europe, I have posted this on a lot of international boards and people are appalled that the guy is even allowed to run, seeing all the negative press he got internationally.

Zapperzy

Owen curran wrote: »

So when a suckler cow is separated from a calf and the both cry and bawl for a couple days or more, this is not cruel? Come on, of cousre its cruel. But its farming so it makes it fine! I met him once(fact) ! None of ye know him yet comment on his personality! I live 5 miles from him and the general feeling of John Boland in the area is positive! And if his place is as bad as it is made out to be surely the powers that be could close him down! Only conclusion I can come to is that it's not near as bad as ye folks make out! None of ye know me either so don't make assumptions on why I posted here! I have my reasons and they have nothing to do with John Boland ! This forum is like an on line pub! Plenty of people giving out about others with no foundations to what they say! Regards folks!

Puppy farming is not illegal so no they cannot close him down once his dogs have food, water and shelter. It doesn't matter that they will probably never see daylight, be taken for a walk or get a scratch on the head and some individual attention. Do you think it's ok for a dog to be bred from on every heat, be locked up in the same cage for it's whole life and never know what it's like to be loved? Do you think that it's ok to have between 700 and 1200 breeding bitches (this probably doesn't include pups present at the time so you could probably double that number to get a real figure for just how many dogs are there).
I may not personally know john boland himself but I know his type, money hungry who see animals as walking euro signs.

Farming is another debate altogether but you will find most here are against intensive farming such as battery chickens (which can be likened to puppy farming in a way) and piggeries just as much as they are against puppy farming.

Orla K

Just so people know I know people that will have the chance to vote for him and I'm going to send one an email and she'll more than likely pass it to the others.

But I'm just wondering does anyone have a good link explaining what a puppy farm is, one with pictures would be best.

She proabably wouldn't be voting for him anyway she's a Fianna Fail follower and I don't think anything will take them off the pedistol they're on:o

Zapperzy

Orla K wrote: »

Just so people know I know people that will have the chance to vote for him and I'm going to send one an email and she'll more than likely pass it to the others.

But I'm just wondering does anyone have a good link explaining what a puppy farm is, one with pictures would be best.

She proabably wouldn't be voting for him anyway she's a Fianna Fail follower and I don't think anything will take them off the pedistol they're on:o

http://www.puppylovecampaigns.org/

mymo

Orla K wrote: »

Just so people know I know people that will have the chance to vote for him and I'm going to send one an email and she'll more than likely pass it to the others.

But I'm just wondering does anyone have a good link explaining what a puppy farm is, one with pictures would be best.

There was a program on either TV3 or RTE recently that show inspectors going into a puppy farm, anyone know the name?
Both channels have iplayers so you can watch old programs.

Orla K

mymo wrote: »

There was a program on either TV3 or RTE recently that show inspectors going into a puppy farm, anyone know the name?
Both channels have iplayers so you can watch old programs.

I know it was tv3 'animal a&e'? maybe but I don't know if she would know how to start that or what her connection speed is, it might just end up stopping every second. pics are probably best.

Zapperzy

mymo wrote: »

Orla K wrote: »

Just so people know I know people that will have the chance to vote for him and I'm going to send one an email and she'll more than likely pass it to the others.

But I'm just wondering does anyone have a good link explaining what a puppy farm is, one with pictures would be best.

There was a program on either TV3 or RTE recently that show inspectors going into a puppy farm, anyone know the name?
Both channels have iplayers so you can watch old programs.

I think it was Animal A & E on Tv3.

The Paws

you meant Animal A & E ?

See the link > http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=animalae

have a look at the video links....

mymo

Yes, Animal A&E, thats it thanks, I do remember my daughter(13yrs) watching and crying about it. She was horrified by the way the dogs were kept, and was even more upset that puppy farming is perfectly legal.

The Paws

I dont know how law system works but what we must do to make this illegal?

Honey-ec

Zapperzy wrote: »

most here are against intensive farming such as battery chickens (which can be likened to puppy farming in a way)

I was just about to compare puppy farming to battery chickens, you got there before me. Something tells me John Owen won't actually respond to any valid points or queries, though...

EGAR

At least there is an end in sight for the battery hens:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/ec-urged-to-enforce-hen-cage-ban-14981426.html

Owen curran

Luckily we live in Ireland where your occupation,once legal,doesn't determine whether or not you can run for election.the only one here who half gets what im trying to point out is Zapperzy!so most here are against intensive farming Zapperzy? surely at some stage in our states history a farmer has been elected to the dail? i think one former Taoiseach was a farmer! @ Honey-ec. how fu(king dare you call me john! my name is owen curran! im proud to be a curran! im not a boland. im not related to the bolands in any way! Unlike you im not hiding behind a user name to air my views! i have a dog(sammy) who i love dearly,i got him in a rescue centre.the only cost to me was getting him chipped and sterlised!if puppy farms were depending on me for business theyd be very poor! I'm not pro puppy farming,or against it really once dogs are mucked out,watered and fed! when i got sammy i bought all the gear to make his life as happy and comfortable as possible! including a pet containment system! Do you know how many dog owners dont keep their dogs under control in the countryside! leaving them free to roam about!and then claim to be animal lovers! My next door neighbour is a sheep farmer and the amount of times his sheep are "bothered" by dogs is just not fair! and anyone here who thinks im john boland asuming a name? Sad! I often hear people slate other people with no foundation and it bothers me! You should say as you find,not say as you hear! Regards folks

Feargal as Luimneach

Owen curran wrote: »

Do you know how many dog owners dont keep their dogs under control in the countryside! leaving them free to roam about!and then claim to be animal lovers! My next door neighbour is a sheep farmer and the amount of times his sheep are "bothered" by dogs is just not fair!

What relevance has that to Bolan's puppy farm???

Shanao

Owen curran wrote: »

Luckily we live in Ireland where your occupation,once legal,doesn't determine whether or not you can run for election.the only one here who half gets what im trying to point out is Zapperzy!so most here are against intensive farming Zapperzy? surely at some stage in our states history a farmer has been elected to the dail? i think one former Taoiseach was a farmer! @ Honey-ec. how fu(king dare you call me john! my name is owen curran! im proud to be a curran! im not a boland. im not related to the bolands in any way! Unlike you im not hiding behind a user name to air my views! i have a dog(sammy) who i love dearly,i got him in a rescue centre.the only cost to me was getting him chipped and sterlised!if puppy farms were depending on me for business theyd be very poor! I'm not pro puppy farming,or against it really once dogs are mucked out,watered and fed! when i got sammy i bought all the gear to make his life as happy and comfortable as possible! including a pet containment system! Do you know how many dog owners dont keep their dogs under control in the countryside! leaving them free to roam about!and then claim to be animal lovers! My next door neighbour is a sheep farmer and the amount of times his sheep are "bothered" by dogs is just not fair! and anyone here who thinks im john boland asuming a name? Sad! I often hear people slate other people with no foundation and it bothers me! You should say as you find,not say as you hear! Regards folks

I'm sorry, but if you have a rescue dog, then surely you can understand why people are so against Boland. I assume you have read this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1050747/How-tiny-handbag-dogs-bred-conditions-horrific-cruelty.html
Also the point is that this occupation of Boland's shouldn't in any way be legal!!

And yes, most of us here are very strongly against intensive farming. No animal should be intensively farmed the way battery hens and puppies are.

Shanao

Puppy farms and pet shops that they supply: http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Puppy-Breeding-Farm-Conditions-Revealed-Undercover-Filming-Shows-Dogs-In-Tiny-Pens/Article/200908115353929?lpos=UK_News_Carousel_Region_1&lid=ARTICLE_15353929_Puppy_Breeding_Farm_Conditions_Revealed%3A_Undercover_Filming_Shows_Dogs_In_Tiny_Pens

ISDW

Owen curran wrote: »

Luckily we live in Ireland where your occupation,once legal,doesn't determine whether or not you can run for election.the only one here who half gets what im trying to point out is Zapperzy!so most here are against intensive farming Zapperzy? surely at some stage in our states history a farmer has been elected to the dail? i think one former Taoiseach was a farmer! @ Honey-ec. how fu(king dare you call me john! my name is owen curran! im proud to be a curran! im not a boland. im not related to the bolands in any way! Unlike you im not hiding behind a user name to air my views! i have a dog(sammy) who i love dearly,i got him in a rescue centre.the only cost to me was getting him chipped and sterlised!if puppy farms were depending on me for business theyd be very poor! I'm not pro puppy farming,or against it really once dogs are mucked out,watered and fed! when i got sammy i bought all the gear to make his life as happy and comfortable as possible! including a pet containment system! Do you know how many dog owners dont keep their dogs under control in the countryside! leaving them free to roam about!and then claim to be animal lovers! My next door neighbour is a sheep farmer and the amount of times his sheep are "bothered" by dogs is just not fair! and anyone here who thinks im john boland asuming a name? Sad! I often hear people slate other people with no foundation and it bothers me! You should say as you find,not say as you hear! Regards folks

A rescue centre rehomed a dog to you unchipped and unneutered? What about vaccinations?

You seem to have a healthy scepticism about most of the posters on here, so look at your own situation. You, who have no link whatsoever to John Boland just happen to come across a thread on a forum that has thousands of threads on it every day. A forum that you are not a registered user of, which would suggest that you don't come on here very often. Yet, you find this thread among the thousands of others, and you, who have no link whatsoever to John Boland, feel so incensed by what has been posted that you join the forum and post on the thread. The only thread on this forum that you have ever posted on. Now if you weren't Owen Curran (which obviously you are), what would you make of someone called Owen Curran doing that?

You also make assumptions, how do you know that no one else here has met John Boland? You have said that a couple of times. Do you honestly know everybody that he has ever met? Oh but of course you don't, as you have no link whatsoever to him.

Honey-ec

ISDW wrote: »

how do you know that no one else here has met John Boland? You have said that a couple of times. Do you honestly know everybody that he has ever met?

But sure we're all hiding behind our usernames anyway :rolleyes:

Sorry, John Owen, but as ISDW has pointed out, you joined Boards specifically to post on this thread, to try and defend the indefensible. The fact that people are suspicious really shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

And we only have your word that you're posting under your real name. I could re-register tomorrow as Jane Dunne, but no-one here would have the foggiest whether or not it was my actual name.

Discodog

The RTE Ear to the Ground program on Puppy Farming is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akKoolN44ZE&feature=email

I would love Boland to get elected because he wouldn't be able to hide any more. Every day he would face criticism. It doesn't surprise me that he has local support.

http://www.pedigreedogs.ie/blog/2010/05/01/cowen-took-up-case-of-disgraced-puppy-farm/

Honey-ec

Discodog wrote: »

It doesn't surprise me that he has local support.

http://www.pedigreedogs.ie/blog/2010/05/01/cowen-took-up-case-of-disgraced-puppy-farm/

This is a country where politicians make representations on behalf of convicted rapists. I really hate this place sometimes.